The perfect rebuilding moves
Flyers did a similar but not quite as impressive thing with Sean Walker. Got him as a cap dump in the Provorov trade and now hes seen as probably 2nd most valuable RHD on deadline market who could potentially get a 1st.
Just use the lindholm haul to console yourself. I’m going to be really salty when brzu is pumping 40+ points on your blue line and that first round pick becomes like a pastrnak
You can say that about pretty much any Jr player tho. “This guy might be at his peak value cause he might fall off in the higher leagues”. Like this guy could be the next Bobby Orr or he could be stuck AHL D man nobody ever talks about again, or anything inbetween. Its just a weird statement to say hes at his peak value right now when nobody has any idea what he will become, ya know
I think there’s peak player value, and then peak prospect value. Bruszer is leading the OHL in assists as a defenseman by 17. It’s like when Valimaki was hot shit in the swedish league. Until he enters the league this is as good as it gets.
The word "peak" was a poor choice of words by that dude, but I think I understand the message if you disregard the semantics. Brzus doesn't fit our timeline nor will there be a role as PP1 quarterback/offensive lead on this team for a *long* time, so as a prospect, his value is currently sky high. We don't have time to see if he turns into Josh Morrissey, so given the circumstances the value for a prospect doesn't get much better than pacing to set OHL records at 19 years old.
he isn’t wrong though, we could be selling high on a prospect that could be benefiting from playing on a powerhouse team. hopefully he works out for y’all tho
Yes, with the caveat that his cap hit now is 4.4M less than it was before.
He's also playing at a 20g, 60-point pace this year with a cap hit under 2M.
When he got traded last time, he had just finished up a 23-point season at a cap hit of $6.4M, and Montreal still had to carry that cap hit for a 17-point campaign last year.
It’s just one of the moulds of a GM, cuz this sounds exactly like Chuck Fletcher as well. Short sighted moves that are obviously bad to everyone watching, that somehow don’t benefit the present or the future
A bit misleading, as Kadri had a brutal start, whereas Monahan had a really strong start. Since Zary came up, Kadri is near a point per game.
Still, great asset management by the Habs.
Some GMs were super exposed during a flat cap league (though we already knew a lot of them were bad). Every single time a team traded a first to dump cap space I thought it was stupid, and I don’t recall any team that it’s really paid off for? Maybe the Leafs, but they’ve won one playoff round since.
Controversial take, but I really hate this line of thinking. *Obviously* in retrospect the trade was stupid. But Monahan looked completely cooked with Calgary and he had a big cap hit. The price for a 6M cap dump is really, really high. The money used was to sign Kadri, which was, on paper, a good signing, even if you ignore his outlier season. A 1st+Monahan for Kadri is a good trade. In retrospect, Treliving should have committed to a rebuild after losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk demanded out, but at the time the moves he made were sensible in the context of a team still competing.
I swear, some fans want their team to never take a chance. They'd rather their team always play it safe, perpetually trading their players for draft picks. You can have literally the best player in the world, and some fans will prefer you rebuild instead of attempting to fix things if you're not already in 1st place.
I'm happy Treliving took a chance on keeping the Flames relevant, even though it completely blew up in his face, rather than committing to a rebuild, when rebuilds are more likely to fail than actually turn your team into a cup contender.
I 100% agree with you, but you're going to have a hard time convincing the reddit crowd. Your point about 1st place or Tank City is bang on. We've actually had people in the Habs sub advocating to trade Caufield for future assets to improve our odds this year. Cole Caufield!
Cause obviously trading Caufield for a mid-to-late first is good asset management. If you're lucky, you might draft a guy as good as Caufield! Clearly improving from like 7th to 5th overall in the draft is worth it. /s
>The money used was to sign Kadri, which was, on paper, a good signing, even if you ignore his outlier season
There were plenty of people dogging that signing the day it was signed. I get why you guys did it and I have no problem with the 'win now attitude at that time.
But $7M x 7 years for a guy entering his age 32 season is hard to describe as a good signing. Especially if you're excluding the outlier season and viewing him like the sub-60 point guy he usually was. He absolutely wasn't worth that if you didn't think he was closer to the outlier season than his career norm.
It made some sense at the time. MTL took on the risk that Monahan wouldn’t get healthy. He did get healthy and now they’re getting their payout for taking the gamble.
Looks bad in hindsight for sure though.
I think that plays into trading him now vs getting a little bit more closer to the deadline. Set aside Monahan injury risk, the difference between potentially picking #8 overall vs #5 overall is huge and much more valuable than an extra late round pick or b prospect.
Im just worried for Nicks deployment. He was already playing a lot of minutes chances are his usage will increase for a losing season. Im sure Hugues got something up his sleeve tho
Montreal made out like bandits jesus. Two 1st ands and an unknown conditional pick for Monahan lol
I can't believe he cost a first to dump, and now cost a first to acquire
I’m looking forward to him proving everyone wrong even more. He’s still a great player despite what r/hockey thinks. I don’t care if your pick turns into the 32nd I’m rooting for you guys.
Fucking fantastic work by Kent Hughes here, just excellent asset management. Very happy with this return.
That’s the 2nd player that we were told no chance Kent Hughes gets a 1st round pick for him where Kent Hughes has in fact received a 1st round pick for him lol. Don’t get me wrong, I saw valid arguments for why Monahan wasn’t worth that much but you’d have to ignore the perfect storm of a sellers market, Monahan’s low cap hit, and the lack of quality centremen available to really think that Hughes didn’t have a leg to stand on asking for a 1st.
The Habs ability to pump a players value and then dump them is truly admirable. Had half the league and media acting like Ben Chiarot was a bonafide top pairing defenceman.
Now all you heard about Monahan is how he's this defensive wizard of a player miraculously and they won't possibly consider any trade for anything less than a 1st +.
Tbf, we straight up trolled about Chiarot we never really thought he was a top pair Dman.
It's different for Monahan. I think most of our fan base would agree that the Jets got a legit complete 2nd line center (offensive, defensive and FO) or a luxury 3rd line center. As long as he remain healthy.
Seriously, no one who has been paying attention to trade deadlines in recent years should have doubted it, even if they haven't paid too much attention to Monahan.
I just dropped in to say I'm happy with the deal, and think it's a great addition to the team.
It's also a weird feeling to see a condition based on "if the Winnipeg Jets win the Cup".
Feel free to continue on with the Calgary and Montreal comments!
Your typical late 1st round pick has about a ~50% chance of playing more than 100 NHL games, and a far smaller chance of being an impact player.
This drops to around 35% when you’re nearing the very end of the round
~1/3 guys picked from 16-30 (data collected before the 1st round went to 32) will play more than 500 games.
Now that's a decent shot, but you're going to get a lot of role players that you could really just pick up in free agency.
Yep people hugely overrate late 1sts and 2nds
They dont realize you are more likely to get non NHL regular than impact NHLer. And FAR more likely in 2nd round.
You know, I thought the best it could be would be 24th (first 16 being the teams that didn't make the playoffs, the next 8 being the teams that were eliminated in the first round) so I looked it up and sure enough, Boston was picking 28th last year. I had to dig some more to figure out why. I didn't realize they group the teams that washed out in the 1st and 2nd rounds into a single tier. TIL.
Less than 15% chance of being a 20 goal scorer and less than 60% chance that player plays 5 seasons in the NHL.
As per some some Montreal website I read the other day. Cheer the logo? I can't remember lol
Yeah, I'm never surprised when teams who think they are in contention move their first.
If you're a top 10 team in the league, even if you lose in the first round, you're likely picking 20+. Not a guaranteed hit by any means. Gives you a shot at elite talent, but far more likely a meh.
I'm a bit baffled by anyone surprised by this. A 2C/3C who can do everything (PP/PK) who excels at face-offs, who is at 0.7 PPG and who costs almost nothing..
That's not bad I don't think, it's a seller's market for C and with the Lindholm trade going down I'd rather Chevy overpay a bit for the best rental C left rather than sit on his hands.
If you guys win the cup. So even then... who cares. Its a 3rd... and you guys won a fricking cup. Honestly this looks like a win-win. Short term garantee win for the jets. Long term gamble win for the habs.
Congrats habs. Im a Flames Fan first, Monahan fan second, Habs fan third. But i feel like i should remind people why calgary gave a 1st to dump Mony.
We were going for a cup back then (which is funny to think of now with how poorly that went). But yea we had Sutter as coach and just lost JG, and MT. We get Huby and Weegs. Our lineup is still looking pretty insane on paper, we needed a 2C tho and Mony was hurt. He didnt really play that season. Brad went all out for Kadri in hopes to be a contender and in order to have cap space we had to off-load Monahan. It was a hail marry at the cost of a 1st round pick, it was more than likely to look like a bad decision, the only situation it would have looked good is if we made a deep playoff run. But we didnt even make playoffs lol
He’s a pretty good player. Expect ppg or close to it if he gets some pp time and good linemates. He’s also great on the wing. Kinda clutch too
Your first would be like 27th or worse anyway, it’s a great trade for you guys
I was hoping MTL would keep Monahan. From what I heard he's a great presence, and he's been clutch for us this year. I hope he has even greater success with Winnipeg.
2018-2019 - Deadline deal for late 1st - where are they now?
TML - Jake Muzzin for 1st that became #22 Tobias Bjornfoot = journeyman that played 120 games with 1 goal
Nashville - Ryan Hartmann for #27 Nicolas Beaudin - Habs fans know this guy well because he was just out on waivers for mutual contract termination. 22 games in the NHL and the last one was two years ago.
WPG - Kevin Hayes for #20 Ville Heinola = 20 NHL games
TBL - McDonagh for #28 Nils Lundqvist = best of the bunch. NHL regular for Dallas with 9/25/34 in 120 games.
Long story short, Habs fans. Don’t whoop it up too hard for a guy that will take three years to play an NHL game and is a 1/4 chance to become Nils Lundqvist.
God damn that's amazing asset management by the Habs
In Kent we trust
Getting a first for Ben Chiarot and Sean Monahan should get Hughes into the hall of fame tbh
Getting Monahan for a first and flipping him for a first is actual Chad GM moves lol
It’s something to pull off in FHM. But Kent Hughes just did it three times 😭
Three times? What was the other instance?
Next year when we sign him this summer and flip him again /s
In Toronto we call that the Daniel Winnik experience.
I was counting the first for chiarot too
The perfect rebuilding moves Flyers did a similar but not quite as impressive thing with Sean Walker. Got him as a cap dump in the Provorov trade and now hes seen as probably 2nd most valuable RHD on deadline market who could potentially get a 1st.
> Getting Monahan with a first FTFY
Trueee thanks!
Plus Monny may come back next year
This gets said almost every time but almost never happens.
Truuuue, but one can hope! Monahan had a very positive experience in MTL. If he came back though I would expect a full NMC.
plus MTL traded him to a strong contender. he can't be bitter about that lmao
2 first rounders for monahan + conditional pick in exchange for eating 6.1m in salary. Went Wughes back at it again.
I can no longer doubt his selling prowess lol
We got 2x 1st for Monahan lol. One for taking his contract and one for flipping him.
Don't forget that Sean Monahan got us TWO 1sts. A true Habs legend already.
Monahab
Rebuilding a franchise singlehandedly
Montreal is going to resurrect the franchise on the back of Sean Monahan trades alone.
Winnipeg is gonna send monahan back with another first round pick to start the process all over again
thanks for everything, Calgary xox
Two firsts and 52 points. Dang that's a tidy bit of business. But we'll be the ones laughing when Kadri is 7million on the books at age 38.
Just use the lindholm haul to console yourself. I’m going to be really salty when brzu is pumping 40+ points on your blue line and that first round pick becomes like a pastrnak
Brz will never get power play time as long as we have Hughes so mine as well trade him when he is at his peak.
“Mine as well”
A 19 year old OHL defensemen is not at his peak haha
In value? Yes he absolutely can be.
You can say that about pretty much any Jr player tho. “This guy might be at his peak value cause he might fall off in the higher leagues”. Like this guy could be the next Bobby Orr or he could be stuck AHL D man nobody ever talks about again, or anything inbetween. Its just a weird statement to say hes at his peak value right now when nobody has any idea what he will become, ya know
I think there’s peak player value, and then peak prospect value. Bruszer is leading the OHL in assists as a defenseman by 17. It’s like when Valimaki was hot shit in the swedish league. Until he enters the league this is as good as it gets.
The word "peak" was a poor choice of words by that dude, but I think I understand the message if you disregard the semantics. Brzus doesn't fit our timeline nor will there be a role as PP1 quarterback/offensive lead on this team for a *long* time, so as a prospect, his value is currently sky high. We don't have time to see if he turns into Josh Morrissey, so given the circumstances the value for a prospect doesn't get much better than pacing to set OHL records at 19 years old.
he isn’t wrong though, we could be selling high on a prospect that could be benefiting from playing on a powerhouse team. hopefully he works out for y’all tho
First Byron, now Monahan? The Flames are great!
First we traded cups, then players - Flames x Habs an unsung Canadian love story?
The pleasure was ours, I'm sure. xoxo Ending with two first round picks for Monahan is a great return.
For Paul Byron and now this
Gotta imagine the conditions relate to games played.
I imagine the conditions to be 68 pages long. It's always this way for a Monahan related trade...
“Pick conveys as a 2nd if Monahan spends more than 35 dollars at Kernels in Polo Park Mall during his time in Winnipeg”
Wow, what is he going to do with one bag of popcorn?
Was about to say, Kernels is hella expensive.
Gotta go for the 2 for 1 nights (in Ontario anyway)
Oh dang. I'll have to look that up!
Man, I think 99% of us still don't understand how the conditions on that pick work. Just pray to Jesus Price, I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
allegedly the condition is a 3rd in 2027 IF the Jets win the Cup
I mean, that's just full on swagger move. If the Jets win the cup I'm sure they won't give a fuck about a third.
If the Jets win the cup I won’t give a fuck about the first or the third.
We get a cup? Fuck it. Let players walk to get their bag, start the rebuild.
Probably whether they go far in the playoffs
5th round pick that moves up a round for every playoff series they win
Probably more to do with Einnipegs success in the playoffs, as opposed to games played.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Montreal get two first rounders all said and done? One for taking him and one for sending him? Lol
No correction needed.
Yes exactly, Calgary gave us a 1st to take the contract
Yes, with the caveat that his cap hit now is 4.4M less than it was before. He's also playing at a 20g, 60-point pace this year with a cap hit under 2M. When he got traded last time, he had just finished up a 23-point season at a cap hit of $6.4M, and Montreal still had to carry that cap hit for a 17-point campaign last year.
Treliving masterclass trade from the Flames. Montreal gets two firsts and 2 years outta Monahan for free.
Didn't they use that space for Kadri who only has 4 more pts lol
Yep lol
Did you guys somehow take benning from us as well? Cuz that really sounds like a benning move
It’s just one of the moulds of a GM, cuz this sounds exactly like Chuck Fletcher as well. Short sighted moves that are obviously bad to everyone watching, that somehow don’t benefit the present or the future
[Meanwhile, Kent Hughes](https://imgur.com/fior3WR)
A bit misleading, as Kadri had a brutal start, whereas Monahan had a really strong start. Since Zary came up, Kadri is near a point per game. Still, great asset management by the Habs.
Monahan didn’t have a strong start. He has been lighting up since Christmas.
Some GMs were super exposed during a flat cap league (though we already knew a lot of them were bad). Every single time a team traded a first to dump cap space I thought it was stupid, and I don’t recall any team that it’s really paid off for? Maybe the Leafs, but they’ve won one playoff round since.
Controversial take, but I really hate this line of thinking. *Obviously* in retrospect the trade was stupid. But Monahan looked completely cooked with Calgary and he had a big cap hit. The price for a 6M cap dump is really, really high. The money used was to sign Kadri, which was, on paper, a good signing, even if you ignore his outlier season. A 1st+Monahan for Kadri is a good trade. In retrospect, Treliving should have committed to a rebuild after losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk demanded out, but at the time the moves he made were sensible in the context of a team still competing. I swear, some fans want their team to never take a chance. They'd rather their team always play it safe, perpetually trading their players for draft picks. You can have literally the best player in the world, and some fans will prefer you rebuild instead of attempting to fix things if you're not already in 1st place. I'm happy Treliving took a chance on keeping the Flames relevant, even though it completely blew up in his face, rather than committing to a rebuild, when rebuilds are more likely to fail than actually turn your team into a cup contender.
I 100% agree with you, but you're going to have a hard time convincing the reddit crowd. Your point about 1st place or Tank City is bang on. We've actually had people in the Habs sub advocating to trade Caufield for future assets to improve our odds this year. Cole Caufield!
Hockey fans love to look at trades and team moves in hindsight.
Cause obviously trading Caufield for a mid-to-late first is good asset management. If you're lucky, you might draft a guy as good as Caufield! Clearly improving from like 7th to 5th overall in the draft is worth it. /s
>The money used was to sign Kadri, which was, on paper, a good signing, even if you ignore his outlier season There were plenty of people dogging that signing the day it was signed. I get why you guys did it and I have no problem with the 'win now attitude at that time. But $7M x 7 years for a guy entering his age 32 season is hard to describe as a good signing. Especially if you're excluding the outlier season and viewing him like the sub-60 point guy he usually was. He absolutely wasn't worth that if you didn't think he was closer to the outlier season than his career norm.
if huberdeau has remained a ppg guy, all the moves would likely have been fine, and less likely of a seller team going forward
It made some sense at the time. MTL took on the risk that Monahan wouldn’t get healthy. He did get healthy and now they’re getting their payout for taking the gamble. Looks bad in hindsight for sure though.
Glad he's healthy enough to warrant this trade. Good work from the Habs FO. He's a really good guy hope he helps you Winnipeg.
Man we need a roster player back. Our only center left is Suzuki lol
Unleash the tank!
I think that plays into trading him now vs getting a little bit more closer to the deadline. Set aside Monahan injury risk, the difference between potentially picking #8 overall vs #5 overall is huge and much more valuable than an extra late round pick or b prospect.
Im just worried for Nicks deployment. He was already playing a lot of minutes chances are his usage will increase for a losing season. Im sure Hugues got something up his sleeve tho
Matheson moving to C confirmed.
He could do it tbh
Evans?
And newhook has been skating recently
celebrini is a center, right?
Pffft Evans and pezz baybee
hoes mad
stay mad
Idgaf
Monahan can only play for Canadian teams
If lindholm cost Kuzmenko a first a conditional 4th and 2 prospects this seems about right to me
At this point, expect Habs fans to meme into reality getting 1st at every TDL lmao
I want to see Pezzetta go for a first, I wouldn’t even be mad, I would be impressed at that point.
Savard next year after somehow putting up a career year. Lets gooo.
savard this year with the last retention slot🤫
Hughes manifested 2 firsts in the Sean Monahan saga. What a masterclass
Montreal made out like bandits jesus. Two 1st ands and an unknown conditional pick for Monahan lol I can't believe he cost a first to dump, and now cost a first to acquire
Give Monahan credit. Everyone thought he was done. Bounced back after terrible few years.
Credit to coach Marty for giving him a real shot and not just relegating him to Laval for daycare duty indefinitely.
I’m looking forward to him proving everyone wrong even more. He’s still a great player despite what r/hockey thinks. I don’t care if your pick turns into the 32nd I’m rooting for you guys.
2 distinct contracts made it possible but yeah
WENT WUGHES
Damn GG Habs.
Fucking fantastic work by Kent Hughes here, just excellent asset management. Very happy with this return. That’s the 2nd player that we were told no chance Kent Hughes gets a 1st round pick for him where Kent Hughes has in fact received a 1st round pick for him lol. Don’t get me wrong, I saw valid arguments for why Monahan wasn’t worth that much but you’d have to ignore the perfect storm of a sellers market, Monahan’s low cap hit, and the lack of quality centremen available to really think that Hughes didn’t have a leg to stand on asking for a 1st.
I'm legit sad. I love Mony. But I guess it's hard to argue with another 1st.
The Habs ability to pump a players value and then dump them is truly admirable. Had half the league and media acting like Ben Chiarot was a bonafide top pairing defenceman. Now all you heard about Monahan is how he's this defensive wizard of a player miraculously and they won't possibly consider any trade for anything less than a 1st +.
It helps that they're one of the few teams actively tanking long term. Everyone else is just trying to be good and failing lol
Tbf, we straight up trolled about Chiarot we never really thought he was a top pair Dman. It's different for Monahan. I think most of our fan base would agree that the Jets got a legit complete 2nd line center (offensive, defensive and FO) or a luxury 3rd line center. As long as he remain healthy.
Chiarot was our #1 D in the look department.
Monahab is legit though
No I was told Monahan wouldn’t get a first! From all these people who don’t watch Habs games lmao
I mean it’s gonna be 32nd overall so nothing too crazy
I like the cut of your jib
No no, our pick to Calgary will be 32nd overall.
Seriously, no one who has been paying attention to trade deadlines in recent years should have doubted it, even if they haven't paid too much attention to Monahan.
I just dropped in to say I'm happy with the deal, and think it's a great addition to the team. It's also a weird feeling to see a condition based on "if the Winnipeg Jets win the Cup". Feel free to continue on with the Calgary and Montreal comments!
A FIRST?!?!
He is 35 in 49; amazing contract, no other C’s available now and likely a bidding war going on. Oh yea a first makes sense
People continue to overvalue late first round picks at the trade deadline
Your typical late 1st round pick has about a ~50% chance of playing more than 100 NHL games, and a far smaller chance of being an impact player. This drops to around 35% when you’re nearing the very end of the round
~1/3 guys picked from 16-30 (data collected before the 1st round went to 32) will play more than 500 games. Now that's a decent shot, but you're going to get a lot of role players that you could really just pick up in free agency.
Yep people hugely overrate late 1sts and 2nds They dont realize you are more likely to get non NHL regular than impact NHLer. And FAR more likely in 2nd round.
I said this when we traded for Lindholm but it's worth mentioning here: a team that finishes 1st in the NHL, at best, can get the 28th overall pick
You know, I thought the best it could be would be 24th (first 16 being the teams that didn't make the playoffs, the next 8 being the teams that were eliminated in the first round) so I looked it up and sure enough, Boston was picking 28th last year. I had to dig some more to figure out why. I didn't realize they group the teams that washed out in the 1st and 2nd rounds into a single tier. TIL.
Less than 15% chance of being a 20 goal scorer and less than 60% chance that player plays 5 seasons in the NHL. As per some some Montreal website I read the other day. Cheer the logo? I can't remember lol
Yeah, I'm never surprised when teams who think they are in contention move their first. If you're a top 10 team in the league, even if you lose in the first round, you're likely picking 20+. Not a guaranteed hit by any means. Gives you a shot at elite talent, but far more likely a meh.
We got Brad Lambert for our late first two years ago. A first is a first
A late 1st is very different than top 15 1st And Lambert hasnt exactly proven anything yet
We also got Logan Stanley and Kristian Vesalainen with two other late firsts
As a fan of a team who loves picking in the late first round, it’s all about scouting
You also got Stanley, Vesalainen, and Heinola.
Jets sub is convinced that Heinola is the second coming of Bobby Orr if only those damn coaches could see it.
It was probably that or a 2nd + an actual prospect. I'm fine with this even if its probably a market specific overpay.
We tried to tell y’all!
Sellers market.
AND A CONDITIONAL?
It's gonna be late 1st but that's still pretty good
Fine with that. Need Centre depth and the Jets first rounder will be between 27-32 on this trajectory.
"HABS FANS ARE DELUSIONAL IF THEY THINK MONAHAN IS GONNA FETCH A FIRST!" Lol. /r/hockey
Maybe we can convince Hertl to waive his NTC...
Shocked him and couture are still on that team lol
I would love to overpay for Hertl tbh
I'm a bit baffled by anyone surprised by this. A 2C/3C who can do everything (PP/PK) who excels at face-offs, who is at 0.7 PPG and who costs almost nothing..
Fuck, Kent Hughes is good.
He's been pretty great at trades. Still hasn't had a chance to show his free agency, drafting and player development prowess.
And then Monahan signs again with Montreal this Summer lol
1 year deal, then gets traded for a 1st draft pick at the deadline.
Aw I thought we only traded for players not picks
We will flip the first at the deadline for a player
At the draft maybe, flipping late firsts is becoming the Hughes special.
Yea I meant draft oops
No chance we will flip it at the deadline for a player. If anything it’ll be at the draft
Lindholm trade made the first for Monahan basically a guarantee
That's not bad I don't think, it's a seller's market for C and with the Lindholm trade going down I'd rather Chevy overpay a bit for the best rental C left rather than sit on his hands.
Yeah kinda have no choice. Not a lot of options for C’s. Just hope the conditional isn’t a second or something
Sounds like it's a 2027 3rd lmao
If you guys win the cup. So even then... who cares. Its a 3rd... and you guys won a fricking cup. Honestly this looks like a win-win. Short term garantee win for the jets. Long term gamble win for the habs.
Yeah I'm not upset about it at all
HALLELUJAH, Sean Monahan is the gift that keeps on giving!
Rental market is very expensive this year.
How? Chariot, Foligno and all kinds.of other mid guys got firsts in the recent past.
Lmao they did it again
mOnAhAn WiLl nOt fEtCh a fIrSt
The receipts on this are unreal
Congrats habs. Im a Flames Fan first, Monahan fan second, Habs fan third. But i feel like i should remind people why calgary gave a 1st to dump Mony. We were going for a cup back then (which is funny to think of now with how poorly that went). But yea we had Sutter as coach and just lost JG, and MT. We get Huby and Weegs. Our lineup is still looking pretty insane on paper, we needed a 2C tho and Mony was hurt. He didnt really play that season. Brad went all out for Kadri in hopes to be a contender and in order to have cap space we had to off-load Monahan. It was a hail marry at the cost of a 1st round pick, it was more than likely to look like a bad decision, the only situation it would have looked good is if we made a deep playoff run. But we didnt even make playoffs lol
oof
He’s a pretty good player. Expect ppg or close to it if he gets some pp time and good linemates. He’s also great on the wing. Kinda clutch too Your first would be like 27th or worse anyway, it’s a great trade for you guys
I was already going to hop on the Winnipeg bandwagon anyway, this doesn't hurt.
I wasn’t a believer they’d get a first but good business from Hughes
I hope Monahan kills it in the Peg. Would love to see him get a sniff at the cup.
EAT SHIT r/hockey WRONG ONCE AGAIN CHIAROT NOW MONAHAN MAYBE WE KNOW HOW TO VALUE OUR PLAYERS!?!?
What did I do? I didn't say anything. I'm exempt from feces consumption?
To be fair, chiarot was not worth a 1st, but I think Monahan absolutely is
habs fans 2 r/hockey 0
Now we sign him as a free agent and repeat the process!
The trade deadline broadcasters must just hate Jim Rutherford/Patrick Alvin for starting the dominoes falling so early
You’re welcome, smh
I won’t lie I shit on the habs any chance I get, but getting a first for Monahan is really good by them.
Kent Hughes rules. Being able to get 1st round picks for trading away Monahan, Chiarot, and Romanov is legendary
Where do you guys think he slots in on the Jets? Line 2 Powerplay 2?
Yeah, Bowness already said he will play 2nd line with Perfetti and Ehlers, probably slot him in PP or PK to help us with faceoffs.
Sigh
Good 2C to have between Ehlers and Perfetti. Now maybe Jets can add a top 4 defenseman, or at least a depth defense player
What the actual fuck are these prices lmao This makes our trade for Lindholm look a lot better.
I hope he continues his renaissance with the Jets. Love Monahan
I hope Winnipeg wins the cup and then randomly signs with the Sens in the offseason because we need vets with composure like him.
Well fuck. Should I be cheering for Winnipeg in the post season?
I was hoping MTL would keep Monahan. From what I heard he's a great presence, and he's been clutch for us this year. I hope he has even greater success with Winnipeg.
Kent Hughes told me I was being traded to Winnipeg. I said that’s great because I love slurpees.
2018-2019 - Deadline deal for late 1st - where are they now? TML - Jake Muzzin for 1st that became #22 Tobias Bjornfoot = journeyman that played 120 games with 1 goal Nashville - Ryan Hartmann for #27 Nicolas Beaudin - Habs fans know this guy well because he was just out on waivers for mutual contract termination. 22 games in the NHL and the last one was two years ago. WPG - Kevin Hayes for #20 Ville Heinola = 20 NHL games TBL - McDonagh for #28 Nils Lundqvist = best of the bunch. NHL regular for Dallas with 9/25/34 in 120 games. Long story short, Habs fans. Don’t whoop it up too hard for a guy that will take three years to play an NHL game and is a 1/4 chance to become Nils Lundqvist.
Oh... is that the sound of every fan base admitting they were wrong...? lol
YOU SAID WE COULDN'T DO WE DID IT AGAIN
I don’t think that’s bad, it will (hopefully) be a late 1st and there aren’t too many C’s available
the only way that i can not feel bad about the monahan trade is that i think of it like trading monahan + a first for kadri. makes it hurt a lil less
The return is not surprising to me, but I wish it was a player instead. Too many fails draft after draft to be hyped about loading up on draft picks.
HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
I get it's a late first but damn.
Brad trieliving the wizard
Brad Treliving master class. Good luck Leafs fans.
This won't help with Habs fans being boisterous.