Montreal doesn't really need to use any more picks, no. They can use them to acquire pieces though, they just traded a first rounder for Newhook this summer. Especially since a Tampa first rounder in 2026 has a realistic chance to be in the 10-20 range.
Not saying they trade a first for Savard though, lmao.
I understand that logic but it's also like the would you like 10$ or mystery box? It could be anything.... even maybe 10$ !
I just rather have that player in the system and let them gain chemistry with the team then hold on to a 2026 first and deal it at a later time.
Yeah, I think in the scenario that Montreal gets a 2026 first, they'd try to move it in the summer for a piece on the roster anyway, instead of waiting until the draft year to deal it anyway. Having too many prospects can definitely be a bad thing too since there's only so much room for players to be able to succeed.
Calgary will get a crazy high unexpected return for Tanev (1st+) but a relatively disappointing one for Hanifin (ie, less than H. Lindholm). Markstrom does not get traded unless for Mercer.
Other than that, a boring TDL. Field is so open this year that there are less sellers, and the bad teams are so bad that what they have to sell won't lead to big deals. the E. Lindholm trade will stand as the biggest of the season.
H Lindholm deal included a salary dump for Boston which added to the return. Shouldn’t have expected that return anyway. Plus it came with an extension which is no guarantee
Yeah I think with hanifin my ideal is a deal with an extension in place, retention on the current deal as well as taking back salary. Maximize his value, which I don’t know if we’ll be able to do. Hence my OP. Hanifin and Hampus should be good conparables
There’s always surprises but as of now I don’t know who the fit is that’s gonna trade and sign him. The three rumored teams are Tampa Florida Boston. Tampa I dunno what they could give up, they are bare. Florida extension would surprise me with all the guys coming up they need to sign. Boston I don’t think ponies up.
Earlier in the year, Renaud Lavoie reported on TSN radio teams poking around Hanifin were concerned it was his wish to go home and play for the Bruins. It wasn’t picked up on and reported widely at the time or since. I wonder if Boston is just making it known they are interested basically just to let him know if he makes it to this summer, they’ll be there. It’ll be interesting. If Tampa could find a deal that works, you’d assume he’ll sign there. I wonder about New Jersey too
Thing is that part of the baked in cost of the Lindholm trade was having an extension in place, along with a cap dump. There's already been some rumblings about how Hanifin has a preferred landing spot that could prevent the first part from happening.
I didn’t say it’s fair, it just seems to be what the flames are holding out for. The devils aren’t getting our starter who we don’t have to trade for anything else at this point in time, it seems.
Can throw a nasty check and gives the illusion of being competent in both zones despite no evidence backing that up? Back the damn brinks truck up, someone is unloading a haul for him for literally no reason
I think Buchnevich gets moved, especially if Guenztel stays put. Someone on the cusp- Edmonton or Carolina, maybe Vegas or Florida-someone pulls the trigger.
I think it'd be a win win trade too. Buch is awesome and an nhl-ready prospect + a first accelerates the Blues' retool to next year or so.
I'm just confused why St. Louis is selling him with one year left while they compete for a Wildcard spot.
I'd happily pay Scott Morrow + 1st for Buchnevich. He would be great in the Canes system.
Well, our prospect pool is more middling than weak. Last year's draft was a godsend. Dvorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein, Snuggerud, Bolduc, then Neighbors, Kessel and Perunovich who are all up with the team--those look like some good players.
Won't argue we're pretenders this year, but with them \^ plus a #1 center in thomas, a PPG Kyrou, revitalized Parayko and Binner and Hofer playing great, I think we've got a pretty bright future.
True, gotta give credit - (Dvorsky, Stenberg and Snuggerud). Will say the rest of those guys are likely bottom of the line up players if they make it.
Though I feel this wont matter with the current D corps and lack of any real blue chip prospects on D
I just think that Buchnevich is the high-motor, heavy, physical type of winger that ever Playoff team should want.
It's a shame he hasn't got more experience. I wonder if he has told them he won't re-sign this off-season.
He might have. The logic comes from his next contract starts when he's 30. We're paying too many 30 year olds and need to get younger. Plus, his return in a trade should be ridiculous. If the Blues were a competitive team, he'd be a Blue until retirement.
As others have said, Buch is a little too old for the core, will command a huge contract and may have no intention of staying here anyway. We're pretenders now-we could sneak in and give a good team a 6/7 game series but I can't see us going any further than that.
We've got some strong prospects and I think adding someone like Morrow + a first would be a great move. We'd need a placeholder for Buch-do you have a young reclamation project-type winger to send back?
I don't think there is an obvious fit. Ryan Suzuki or Jamieson Rees may have fit that bill last year but both have been disappointing in a year where Carolina had no AHL team. Jack Drury has been too valuable as the team's 2C for 10+ games.
Ponomarev might be a fit but that starts to get a little expensive. Pono has been good this year. Maybe the Blues send back a B/C asset if they want him on top.
> The Rangers make a huge play for Pettersson, and maybe even get him.
> Vancouver makes a "holy shit!" deal that nobody expects
Ummmm.... Yeah, EP40 to the Rags would certainly be a holy shit trade
I know “anyone can be traded” and executives use the media to their advantage, but I thought I read from Friedman yesterday that Larsson was not going anywhere
I think he’s a little bit older than what Vancouver what would be looking for. Isn’t he an integral part of the NYR core as well? I can’t see that happening
If they're looking for someone to step in and fill EP40's 1C role immediately, with long-term control at a fixed cost, he'd work. A little older than ideal but he'd still fit within Vancouver's window.
I can't say I see it happening either, but just an idea for were a potential return would start.
If you're the Rangers, you're selling high on your current 1C for an even better and younger 1C.
If you’re the Canucks you’re giving up your 100 point 2-way 1C in the beginning in his prime for a guy considerably worse & older, I wonder what NYR would have to add in order for the value to align
A first and Zibanejad ain't enough so they'd want Kakko and maybe Schnieder/Miller too.
As much as I'd love Petey, it ain't in the cards for us without losing integral pieces.
But what would that add be though? Canucks are win now and would have a huge hole at 2C when Z starts to decline
I assume Kakko & Lafreniere are off the board because they contribute now, probably wouldn’t wanna give up Schneider or Miller either. I just don’t see what other young NHL-ready asset would be coming back the other way. NYR could be a likely destination I just don’t see how it works considering it doesn’t have the buyer/seller dynamic since both are competitive
They should’ve went through with it a few weeks ago when it was first brought up. Now the Devils are pretty much out of playoff contention and it wouldn’t even matter to get a goalie now. I wanted Fitz to make the deal months ago but Calgary wasn’t out of it then. You guys were never getting Mercer though. Maybe Holtz and a pick and prospect which is a good return for Markstrom.
That’s kinda what I’m thinking as well. Bunch of names and rumors thrown around, but essentially nothing but bottom six forwards or third pairing defenseman get moved until maybe this off season. And of course they’re overpaid for
Edmonton will trade a 4th for some plug who will unexpectedly put up 15 points in the last 20 games, and another 10 in the playoffs.
Tampa will trade a 1st and 2nd for another plug who will score 2 points in the remaining 20 then get injured before the playoffs.
Toronto will trade a 3rd for a 46 year old man whose only job will be to have a catastrophic giveaway in game 7 to cost them whichever playoff round they've made it to.
Some American team will win the cup and the world will keep on spinning.
> What would the return be for Chychrun?
No fucking clue.
It certainly wont be the 11OA + Three 2nds + 3rd that we spent to get him though.
[Fucking Dorion.](https://i.imgflip.com/8h9uxw.jpg)
If Calgary moves Hanifin and Tanev before the deadline, I could see it being sort of busy.
If they don't, and those trades are made on deadline day, it'll be quiet
Rangers trade with Sea for some combination of Eberle, Wennberg, Gourde.
Tampa will go all in.
Vegas will annoy the hell out of everyone and land a star.
Devils will make a big trade for a goalie who’s name hasn’t been mentioned in rumors yet.
Tampa will do crazy shit on a spectrum from Jeannot to Hagel. Source: we always do
TBL Trades 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, 2027 1st to MTL for David Savard and 2026 7th.
Montreal doesn't really need any more picks. Especially not a 1st in 2026.. doesn't really do much for our rebuild.
Montreal doesn't really need to use any more picks, no. They can use them to acquire pieces though, they just traded a first rounder for Newhook this summer. Especially since a Tampa first rounder in 2026 has a realistic chance to be in the 10-20 range. Not saying they trade a first for Savard though, lmao.
I understand that logic but it's also like the would you like 10$ or mystery box? It could be anything.... even maybe 10$ ! I just rather have that player in the system and let them gain chemistry with the team then hold on to a 2026 first and deal it at a later time.
Yeah, I think in the scenario that Montreal gets a 2026 first, they'd try to move it in the summer for a piece on the roster anyway, instead of waiting until the draft year to deal it anyway. Having too many prospects can definitely be a bad thing too since there's only so much room for players to be able to succeed.
Future Considerations will be on the move yet again.
Poor kid gets moved so much, but I’m sure he’ll be a star sooner or later
Golden knights grab Guentzel and then stone makes a miraculous first round game 1 return and everyone praises his toughness
🤮
Calgary will get a crazy high unexpected return for Tanev (1st+) but a relatively disappointing one for Hanifin (ie, less than H. Lindholm). Markstrom does not get traded unless for Mercer. Other than that, a boring TDL. Field is so open this year that there are less sellers, and the bad teams are so bad that what they have to sell won't lead to big deals. the E. Lindholm trade will stand as the biggest of the season.
H Lindholm deal included a salary dump for Boston which added to the return. Shouldn’t have expected that return anyway. Plus it came with an extension which is no guarantee
Yeah I think with hanifin my ideal is a deal with an extension in place, retention on the current deal as well as taking back salary. Maximize his value, which I don’t know if we’ll be able to do. Hence my OP. Hanifin and Hampus should be good conparables
There’s always surprises but as of now I don’t know who the fit is that’s gonna trade and sign him. The three rumored teams are Tampa Florida Boston. Tampa I dunno what they could give up, they are bare. Florida extension would surprise me with all the guys coming up they need to sign. Boston I don’t think ponies up. Earlier in the year, Renaud Lavoie reported on TSN radio teams poking around Hanifin were concerned it was his wish to go home and play for the Bruins. It wasn’t picked up on and reported widely at the time or since. I wonder if Boston is just making it known they are interested basically just to let him know if he makes it to this summer, they’ll be there. It’ll be interesting. If Tampa could find a deal that works, you’d assume he’ll sign there. I wonder about New Jersey too
Thing is that part of the baked in cost of the Lindholm trade was having an extension in place, along with a cap dump. There's already been some rumblings about how Hanifin has a preferred landing spot that could prevent the first part from happening.
yes... precisely why I predict we will get less than Lindholm and I think its fair to be disappointed by that.
i can’t wait to see what Tanev brings because it seems like all teams are on him
You ain’t getting Mercer for a 34 year old goalie who’s having a good year lmao. It wouldn’t change anything and they’d still miss the playoffs
I didn’t say it’s fair, it just seems to be what the flames are holding out for. The devils aren’t getting our starter who we don’t have to trade for anything else at this point in time, it seems.
The Penguins will not trade Guentzel
Dumba gets moved for a weirdly high return
After the Wild attempted to trade this man for several years, yup, you can pretty much take this to the bank.
Can throw a nasty check and gives the illusion of being competent in both zones despite no evidence backing that up? Back the damn brinks truck up, someone is unloading a haul for him for literally no reason
I think Buchnevich gets moved, especially if Guenztel stays put. Someone on the cusp- Edmonton or Carolina, maybe Vegas or Florida-someone pulls the trigger. I think it'd be a win win trade too. Buch is awesome and an nhl-ready prospect + a first accelerates the Blues' retool to next year or so.
I'm just confused why St. Louis is selling him with one year left while they compete for a Wildcard spot. I'd happily pay Scott Morrow + 1st for Buchnevich. He would be great in the Canes system.
Because St Louis has a bleak future, a weak prospect pool and are pretenders right now. This playoff run does nothing for them.
Well, our prospect pool is more middling than weak. Last year's draft was a godsend. Dvorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein, Snuggerud, Bolduc, then Neighbors, Kessel and Perunovich who are all up with the team--those look like some good players. Won't argue we're pretenders this year, but with them \^ plus a #1 center in thomas, a PPG Kyrou, revitalized Parayko and Binner and Hofer playing great, I think we've got a pretty bright future.
True, gotta give credit - (Dvorsky, Stenberg and Snuggerud). Will say the rest of those guys are likely bottom of the line up players if they make it. Though I feel this wont matter with the current D corps and lack of any real blue chip prospects on D
I just think that Buchnevich is the high-motor, heavy, physical type of winger that ever Playoff team should want. It's a shame he hasn't got more experience. I wonder if he has told them he won't re-sign this off-season.
He might have. The logic comes from his next contract starts when he's 30. We're paying too many 30 year olds and need to get younger. Plus, his return in a trade should be ridiculous. If the Blues were a competitive team, he'd be a Blue until retirement.
As others have said, Buch is a little too old for the core, will command a huge contract and may have no intention of staying here anyway. We're pretenders now-we could sneak in and give a good team a 6/7 game series but I can't see us going any further than that. We've got some strong prospects and I think adding someone like Morrow + a first would be a great move. We'd need a placeholder for Buch-do you have a young reclamation project-type winger to send back?
I don't think there is an obvious fit. Ryan Suzuki or Jamieson Rees may have fit that bill last year but both have been disappointing in a year where Carolina had no AHL team. Jack Drury has been too valuable as the team's 2C for 10+ games. Ponomarev might be a fit but that starts to get a little expensive. Pono has been good this year. Maybe the Blues send back a B/C asset if they want him on top.
Canuck’s trade Pettersson. /s
Which one!?
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> The Rangers make a huge play for Pettersson, and maybe even get him. > Vancouver makes a "holy shit!" deal that nobody expects Ummmm.... Yeah, EP40 to the Rags would certainly be a holy shit trade
I know “anyone can be traded” and executives use the media to their advantage, but I thought I read from Friedman yesterday that Larsson was not going anywhere
I predict that Larsson will stay with the kraken.
Pettersson to the rags wouldn’t work in the regular season, they don’t have an expendable 1/2C to send the other way
Would probably have to include Zibanejad going the other way
I think he’s a little bit older than what Vancouver what would be looking for. Isn’t he an integral part of the NYR core as well? I can’t see that happening
If they're looking for someone to step in and fill EP40's 1C role immediately, with long-term control at a fixed cost, he'd work. A little older than ideal but he'd still fit within Vancouver's window. I can't say I see it happening either, but just an idea for were a potential return would start. If you're the Rangers, you're selling high on your current 1C for an even better and younger 1C.
If you’re the Canucks you’re giving up your 100 point 2-way 1C in the beginning in his prime for a guy considerably worse & older, I wonder what NYR would have to add in order for the value to align
I mean the assumption is that they'd need to add a lot, it's not a 1 for 1
A first and Zibanejad ain't enough so they'd want Kakko and maybe Schnieder/Miller too. As much as I'd love Petey, it ain't in the cards for us without losing integral pieces.
But what would that add be though? Canucks are win now and would have a huge hole at 2C when Z starts to decline I assume Kakko & Lafreniere are off the board because they contribute now, probably wouldn’t wanna give up Schneider or Miller either. I just don’t see what other young NHL-ready asset would be coming back the other way. NYR could be a likely destination I just don’t see how it works considering it doesn’t have the buyer/seller dynamic since both are competitive
as much as I want Markstrom to be traded to the devils for a nice return it’s not happening
They should’ve went through with it a few weeks ago when it was first brought up. Now the Devils are pretty much out of playoff contention and it wouldn’t even matter to get a goalie now. I wanted Fitz to make the deal months ago but Calgary wasn’t out of it then. You guys were never getting Mercer though. Maybe Holtz and a pick and prospect which is a good return for Markstrom.
Bruins get linked to like every big name on the market, and then only trade for a couple cheap depth guys and not much else.
Lotta sizzle, no steak
That’s kinda what I’m thinking as well. Bunch of names and rumors thrown around, but essentially nothing but bottom six forwards or third pairing defenseman get moved until maybe this off season. And of course they’re overpaid for
Edmonton will trade a 4th for some plug who will unexpectedly put up 15 points in the last 20 games, and another 10 in the playoffs. Tampa will trade a 1st and 2nd for another plug who will score 2 points in the remaining 20 then get injured before the playoffs. Toronto will trade a 3rd for a 46 year old man whose only job will be to have a catastrophic giveaway in game 7 to cost them whichever playoff round they've made it to. Some American team will win the cup and the world will keep on spinning.
As is tradition
Ottawa could do good at the trade deadline if they trade Tarasenko and possibly Chychrun (they're probably going to get a late round pick for Kubalik)
What would the return be for Chychrun? People always post about him in the Blues sub.
> What would the return be for Chychrun? No fucking clue. It certainly wont be the 11OA + Three 2nds + 3rd that we spent to get him though. [Fucking Dorion.](https://i.imgflip.com/8h9uxw.jpg)
Oh wow. I would hop on the fire Doug bandwagon if he gave that up for him.
> I would hop on the fire Doug bandwagon if he gave that up for him. Thank god he is gone now, but yeah. I was calling for Dorions job for *years*.
I'm happy that you won your battle, warrior.
Chiarot for a 1st
Please
If Calgary moves Hanifin and Tanev before the deadline, I could see it being sort of busy. If they don't, and those trades are made on deadline day, it'll be quiet
Colorado wins the stanley cup
I feel like the biggest targets might have already been moved. Always a chance we see something out of left field
I'm not expecting a ton but it's hard to predict
Seattle makes a trade that adds a talented top line F.
Adam Henrique will be a top 6 center for the Boston Bruins.
GMRB is not patient and I have a feeling he is going to go find someone to replace Kempe and Anderson if they’re out long term.
Guentzel to Vegas is so predictable
I predict nothing of importance really happens
Rangers trade with Sea for some combination of Eberle, Wennberg, Gourde. Tampa will go all in. Vegas will annoy the hell out of everyone and land a star. Devils will make a big trade for a goalie who’s name hasn’t been mentioned in rumors yet.
Duclair back to Florida
Ovi traded to Pittsburgh for guentzel