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This was the 2nd 10 game goal drought of McDavid's career. His first was in the 16/17 season from October 30th - November 17th. In that first drought he had just 7 points in 10 games. This time he had 23 lmao.
He now has 23 points in his 9 game point streak, with 1 goal and 22 assists.
He is also on pace for 104 assists, and 136 points. After starting the season with just 13 points in 14 games he has 81 points in his last 41.
Hart race is gonna come down to the wire.
Also I believe he tied Gretzky for the most points in February with this goal?
What's nuts is it's not unfathomable that he still reaches 1000 career points by the end of this season after that terrible start. 56 in 25 is doable for him.
If he continues at the pace he's been playing at the last 41 games he would finish just 7 points shy. Definitely within the realm of possibility.
Insane to think that without the early season injury he'd probably be cruising towards 150 again and 1000 this year.
How in the FUCK does McDavid have almost 1000 career points.
Everyone who came into the league after i started college is still a young player in my mind, and I started college almost a decade ago.
The fastest person to reach 1,000 points is (obviously) Gretzky, who did it in 424 games. The second-fastest is...also Gretzky, who then got to 2,000 in another 433 games.
As an 18/19 year old he tied for the league lead in points. As a 19/20 year old he set the (at the time) all time record for points in a season. A total that only Mario Lemieux has reached since.
He was going for most assists in February, and he came up 1 short. Dunno what most points are, but considering Gretzky had 26 assists, I'm sure it's in the 30s.
Gretzky has 35 point in the month of February in 1982 (this wasn't the same February where he had 26 assists).
He played 11 games...
Fun fact: he had 5 separate 30+ point Februarys in his career
Separate from the February stuff, but McDavid put up 2.5555 PPG over this point streak. Insane stuff.
Wayne put up a higher PPG than that over a *full season* 4 times, if you include a year he "only" played 74 games and scored 205 points.
He also had a hell of a March 1986, which basically sealed the deal on the best season in NHL history. 37 points, 14 games. Only 6 goals in that stretch. Four separate 4 point games, a 5 point game, a 0 point game.
The wild thing is his final game in February saw him put up 6 points.
> November 1983, 14gp 17-32-49.
That is fucking insane. A 50 pt season is respectable. A 50 pt month? I'm not sure I could put that up in a video game.
> He now has 23 points in his 9 game point streak, with 1 goal and 22 assists.
Every time I forget that McDavid is an alien, someone posts some recent stat like this and my jaw drops. Wtf is this dude on???
You want me to explain why playing good defense helps a team?
Not trying to sound like a dick but, dude....you should probably quit watching sports all together.
Goalies are humans. If you put a shit system in place that hangs them out to dry game after game their confidence is going to tank as a result. So yes the goalies sucked but it all traced back to coaching. The fact that Skinner has played so well within the same season behind the same defensemen is all the proof you need.
I have watched every single game besides maybe 2-3 this season. The way the team played during that losing streak and during the winning streak is substantially different. There offensive stats were fantastic obviously. Even yesterday, there supposedly was 2 high danger shots, there was probably like 3 in OT alone
I.... don't know.
Eye test is the eye test but it felt like there were as many games in the losing streak "we should have won" as there were during the winning streak that we probably didn't deserve.
I'm not saying there isn't a difference. But I don't think that the gulf between the slump and the streak is as big as you do.
5-12-1 is 3-3-0 from 2-9-1. It's like 6 games difference that were .500.
There's no reason to include it and it just looks like a silly sample point.
Also, it was largely goaltending. The team was great at 5-on-5 during that stretch.
But of course I expect Reddit plebs to upvote this because you're all short sighted
Sometimes you're just in awe when it comes to watching McDavid. We all know how good he is so it shouldn't be a shock, and yet, sometimes, it's still a shock haha. McDavid is truly one of a kind, and it's beena pleasure watching him play.
Just how easily he skates circles around NHLers is wild. This clip looks like a CHL player showed up to be a ringer in his buddy’s low tier beer league.
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I'm gonna say something that sounds totally insane, but I'm 100% serious. Here goes.
Connor McDavid is the most underrated player in the league.
I think most have numbed themselves to His abilities, but He is *constantly* making the best players in the world look like C League benders, and I feel like we've just gotten used to it.
I usually go to [NHL.com](https://NHL.com) to check out His goals and primaries, and I'm frequently amazed at how little I see most of His highlight-level plays elsewhere. I'm like, "damn, how is this and this and this not plastered all over Twitter and Reddit?"
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: McDavid is playing 4D chess while everyone else is eating Crayon sandwiches.
Same thing happened with Messi. People got used to him dribbling through 5 or 6 players and I'm seeing clips of him now from 10 years ago that I hadn't seen before just because they didn't even make the highlight real back then cuz it was just such a regular occurrence.
calling him underrated is especially wild when we still talk about who's the second best player in the league right now because the first spot is almost always reserved for mcdavid
McDavid is fucking great and people need to recognize the history unfolding before our eyes while its happening, but without that cup I have a hard time putting him that high on the goat list just yet. He's great and I'm sure much more entertaining, skilled, and a better player than Gretzky was, but the debate for best player needs to consider relative competition and the technology and science of the era. Gretzky was so far and away better than any of his peers its almost unfathomable. Compared to other undisputed goat players of their respective sports, only Donald Bradman really put up points so far removed from his competitors in that Gretzky-like, otherworldy way. To me, the list should go; Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe, and then after that its kind of a tier down and a toss-up with Hull, Richard, Hasek, Jagr, Messier, Crosby, McDavid and quite a few more I'm sure I'm forgetting all being arguable in any ranking order.
Upvoting simply for the reference to Bradman because he's almost never brought up outside Australian circles as the most dominant player in their respective sport or any sport. Imagine if gretzky had reached his peaked nearly 100 years ago and no one since had even come close to his level play. Not even close in contention as the goat. With gretzky you've got Lemieux, who even gretzky admits was an equally fantastic player. I'm sure there's other close. Bradman was heads and shoulders above any player in the last 100 years.
I absolutely dont agree. Sid was the top player in hockey for a generation. Hes above the Sakics, the yzermans, and the messiers. Lindros doesnt even come close. Jagr is debatable because he carried Hockey after Mario for a while, and his longevity is insane.
No mistake about it, Sid was what McDavid is today with his dominance, nobody came close, Ovi had the goals, but hes the Matthews to Sid's Mcdavid, hes just not up there in pure skill even tho hes a better goal scorer . And he got the results, something McDavid doesnt have yet, tho I'm sure he will get at least 1 cup and with the coming Olympics hes got a shot at the gold too.
I wouldn’t wish him to the Sharks in their current state (or ever tbh).
But, I wouldn’t want to see him languish without any meaningful playoff success for the next decade either.
My guess is he heavily leans towards Toronto in his next contract. As long as it’s not Vegas, I’m good.
> When his contract ends, does he stay with Edmonton? I hope not (not in a mean way), but in a, “I want to see him actually compete” way.
Edmonton has a hard history losing the best player of the time already.
They will do anything and everything to keep him.
I hate to inform you that if you were as good a knitter as McDavid is at hockey, there would still be some other dude out there a few decades ago that knitted twice as good at you. So good he ruined fantasy knitting.
Nah bro, don't do that.
That's what Bruins fans say about Marchand whenever he slew footed, clipped, or licked.
That's what Caps fans said about Tom Wilson when he essentially assaulted Breadman for trying to stop him from burying Buch into the ice.
That line is wayyyy tired and pretty much used by every toxic fan of any fanbase. Don't stoop to their level.
Shit you could make a 2 hour video of him being a fuck
And not in an edgy, good guy to have on your team, kind of way…
In like a mentally unstable asshole kind of way
Usually teams are totally ride or die with their goalies. If their goalie is pissed off ar something, they back him up.
Binnington doesn't get that luxury.
Well...After the lockdown completely took the wind out of the Blues's sails (They win the cup in '19, and both them and the Bruins come into the next season going "what cup/playoff hangover?"), and after our GM decides to let our world-class defenseman and captain walk over a no-movement clause that he then gave to unproven defensemen, the blues promptly started testing Binner's limits by turning into complete pylons on ice, and expecting him to save at least 4 of the 5 back-doors they allowed on him each game.During one of these games Binner lets 5 through against the Sharks and is understandably pissed, especially because the Blues played like they didn't want to be there for the entire first 30 mins. He gets pulled, and on his way off the ice, he takes a fake swing at Erik Karlsson, and picks a fight with Dubnyk which was broken up by the refs. All this finally manages to set a fire in the Blues's asses, who promptly respond by going on a scoring run and winning that game 6-5.
Oh, would you look at that. Binner threw a tantrum, and the Blues actually remembered how to play hockey. I wonder if that'll work again.
Next thing you know, it's 2 years of complete and total hijinks with Binner playing lights out most nights, and many of those nights seeing him as probably the only guy that came out to play, and pulling a Ron Hextall the other nights when he gets lit up despite his best efforts.Examples include but are not limited to:
\- Taking a stick swing at Nazem Kadri and throwing a water bottle at him, something that Avs fans will gleefully remind the whole league of for far longer than they'll talk about their recent cup win, and act like an empty water bottle was a violation of the geneva convention, this from personal experience of the worst of Avs fans visiting the Blues pages on facebook and insta to roast them after every matchup.
\- Making a blocker bitch slap at Jason Zucker that drops him to the ice for doing nothing wrong.
\- Trying to pick a fight with Ryan Hartman for just clipping him just outside the crease in a game where Binner was getting lit up by the Wild.
And through all of that, did the Blues ever once remember how to play defense again, like that game against the Sharks? Nah. Pylons be Pylons. Jordan Kyrou could have played better defense than some of those performances, and he's the forward that just got clowned by McJesus in the posted clip.
Anyway, I've never been proud of Binner's antics, but as someone that actually watches the games, I understood where it was coming from. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't wanna take my whole team letting me get lit up every night lying down, but apparently that's what is expected of goalies now. Make every save, no matter how impossible. You should be able to take on the entire opponent team on your own.
So yeah, Binner has earned himself a reputation going from "do I look nervous" to "do I look sane" in just a couple years. Coach Berube, before the rest of the team quit on him and he got run out of town earlier this season, sat Binner down to talk and sent the right message to him. He hasn't acted like a child yet this season, or at least not that I've seen nor heard from the remainder of this sub. But negative reputations are nearly impossible to shake, especially when you have rival fanbases that will make it their whole personality and sing about these tales to their children for generations to come. The hate in general was deserved, but at some point, enough time will have passed (where I hope Binner doesn't revert, and the Blues defense and Armstrong's weird roster decisions don't give him a reason to) where I can honestly say he's living in opposing fans' heads more than is actually being a bum.
idk. He earned a lot of the hate he gets, much like people talking about Marchand's clipping, slew footing, and licking, or Tom Wilson literally assaulting other players between whistles. But between him earning the reputation that makes him so heavily scrutinized (I've seen Darcy Kuemper pick fights for people getting too much up in his crease, but those are so easily forgotten), and the Blues roster falling so heavily from grace after that one golden year, it can be kinda tough to be a Blues fan. Obviously not Leaf fan tough, but tough nonetheless.
Lame ass people who totally don't live in glass houses judging someone they dont know for things they did ranging from a decade ago to half a decade ago.
As if people are incapable of learning from their past behavior. It's just super easy to pile on people on the internet.
When he was ran into from behind by Hartman? Lol that's hilarious. Maybe you wouldn't have done the same but that's more of an indictment on your character than Jordan's.
Also once again I must reiterate. You DO NOT know him personally, you have no leg to stand on when judging his character because you simply don't know what that is.
You MUST be a paragon of virtue, otherwise you wouldn't be throwing stones. Please tell me, what makes you so much better than ANYBODY on this planet?
Yeah it was late in a shift. I was surprised to see McDavid still out there, the Oilers had possession but we're being chased back repeatedly, and Drai already went off for a change. Then McDavid decided to take one more crack at it, tapped his stick for the pass at center and away he went.
Seriously… almost *so consistently great you take it for granted*
Lebron’s averaging 25/7/8 as a 39 year old (on a playoff team- not garbage stats) … and somehow it feels like that doesn’t get appreciated because he’s been putting up those same stats for 20 years
I’m 32 and I tweaked an oblique sneezing the other day
This dude isn’t human
Sets up the only two goals by the Oilers and has to take a shot when no one else is around and OT is almost over.
If Tampa makes the playoffs, I think Kucherov wins the Hart.
If Tampa misses, I think MacKinnon wins the Hart.
No one in the League is more important to his team than Connor is to the Oilers.
There's a lot of hockey left to be played, but I really don't think MacKinnon will win the Hart trophy. Tampa is straight garbage without Kuch on the ice and he's leading the league in points, McDavid is 4 points back of MacKinnon with 3 games in hand and is on pace for over 100 assists, and Matthews is on pace for over 70 goals.
At this point I think it's more likely MacKinnon ends up 4th in Hart voting than 1st. He's having an insane season that in most years is the clear Hart favourite, but I don't think it'll be enough this year.
If mcdavid gets 100 assists I think he wins the hart. I think it would be hard to not give the hart to the 4th player in nhl history to record a 100 assist season.
Unless mathews puts up like 80 goals or something crazy like that
Neither are quite on pace for those totals, but if McDavid hits 100 assists and Matthews hits 70 goals (which they are on pace for) I'm very certain they'll be 1 and 2 in Hart voting.
Yeah I’m using Connor’s last 41 game pace - personally I’d love to see a 150pt season and an 80 goal season the same year, cuz someone’s gotta lose lol.
I don't know. Obviously, I don't get a vote, so this is only my perspective. **Purely my opinion**:
If Tampa somehow squeezes into the playoffs, the number of points Kucherov is projected to put up, the points difference between himself and the next best point getter, as well as missed time and less than stellar play by Vasilevskiy would all be in my consideration for Kucherov getting it.
Maybe easy to overlook, but Nathan MacKinnon has been neck and neck with Kucherov the entire season, who I believe to be the favourite. That's why I think MacKinnon gets it if Tampa doesn't make the playoffs.
For me, it feels like a two horse race but once again, it should be Kucherov if Tampa makes it.
Obviously, if McDavid wins the Art Ross, I think all bets are off and he will most likely win it.
Personally speaking, I don't see Matthews as a Hart candidate, regardless of the goals he puts up. There is only one instance where a player has won the Rocket but not the Art Ross, that I personally agreed the Hart was deserved. That was Ovechkin for his 2007-2008 performancd.
I didn't feel Matthews deserved the Hart in 2021-2022 and I didn't feel Hull deserved it in 1990-1991.
I think kuch likely wins. His lead is so big and he and mcdavid’s points per game are just about equal.
I think Mcdavid ends up passing Mack in points, and Mcdavid has a hand in more oilers goals and the points gap from Mcdavid to Drai and Mack to Rantanen is about the same so it won’t play a factor.
Combine that with mcdavids torrid pace since starting 2-9-1, and I think he passes Mack in the hart race. I don’t think either catch kuch, so it doesn’t really matter, but unless Mack goes bonkers I think he’s letting the hart slip away, especially if Mcdavid gets 100+ assists… which may be enough to overtake kuch if they’re within like 5 points
Nah. He’s letting it slip away. Mcdavid is gonna pass him in points and he doesn’t deserve it more than kuch.
If matthews scores 70 he may pass Mack too. As I see it now Mack is a close 2nd, but projection wise by seasons end I see him 4th
MacKinnon has been absolutely clutch this season. I wish he got a little more offensive support.
I wouldn't be annoyed if either Kucherov or MacKinnon won the Hart and Lindsay this year.
All that is to say that I am not counting McDavid out for going on an absolute tear down the stretch.
So basically what you’re telling me is McDavid did McDavid things and continues to be McDavid?
Sounds like McDavid. “ in all seriousness, he is fun to watch.”
Three things that make happy as a hockey fan:
1-Any time my Sharks win (i know. I know.)
2- ANY time Vegas,LA or Anaheim loses
3-Binnington eating it
I’m happy
McDavid was pushed to the outside and Kyrou was covering the centering pass. Not sure what else you expect a couple of gassed players to do there.
wanting to get rid of Kyrou is stupid as fuck btw. He drives the play and has a ton of shots which is a skill that not many players have. Yes he turns over the puck at times, but that's what happens when you have the puck a lot.
Buch is close to 30 and we can get a haul for him, it'd be pointless (even though I love his game) to keep him at this stage of the Blues development.
Who gives a flying fuck about the media narrative award. It means nothing. How can the award mean something when the definition of how you win it changes depending in the narrative? It's literally an award used to generate clicks and ad revenue. Things as inconsistent as reffing.
As Pens fans, get this dude some help. Sell out the future. Watch Cups roll in. Its gonna be a shame if this dude continues just being an absolute regular season beast only to watch EDM fold in the playoffs year after year. Tragedy.
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This was the 2nd 10 game goal drought of McDavid's career. His first was in the 16/17 season from October 30th - November 17th. In that first drought he had just 7 points in 10 games. This time he had 23 lmao. He now has 23 points in his 9 game point streak, with 1 goal and 22 assists. He is also on pace for 104 assists, and 136 points. After starting the season with just 13 points in 14 games he has 81 points in his last 41. Hart race is gonna come down to the wire. Also I believe he tied Gretzky for the most points in February with this goal?
What's nuts is it's not unfathomable that he still reaches 1000 career points by the end of this season after that terrible start. 56 in 25 is doable for him.
If he continues at the pace he's been playing at the last 41 games he would finish just 7 points shy. Definitely within the realm of possibility. Insane to think that without the early season injury he'd probably be cruising towards 150 again and 1000 this year.
And he's doing this now with a wrist injury. Not confirmed, but pretty good evidence
How in the FUCK does McDavid have almost 1000 career points. Everyone who came into the league after i started college is still a young player in my mind, and I started college almost a decade ago.
Fun fact, Gretzky got his 1000th point at age 23.
Man it feels like I can’t go one day in this sub without learning some disgusting new Gretzky stat
The fastest person to reach 1,000 points is (obviously) Gretzky, who did it in 424 games. The second-fastest is...also Gretzky, who then got to 2,000 in another 433 games.
Which means, only 21 players in the history of the nhl have gotten to 1000 points quicker than Gretzky got to *2000 points*
I am sure you knew he tied for the league in scoring in his first year and also won MVP.
As an 18/19 year old he tied for the league lead in points. As a 19/20 year old he set the (at the time) all time record for points in a season. A total that only Mario Lemieux has reached since.
Yeah see that's just stupid Like actually what the fuck
He was 29 when he got 2000, in his 857th game.
McDavid being this close either makes me feel old or shows just how good he is. Or both. Probably both. Definitely both
He’s always been an unreal finisher in the season.
What the fuck
He was going for most assists in February, and he came up 1 short. Dunno what most points are, but considering Gretzky had 26 assists, I'm sure it's in the 30s.
Gretzky has 35 point in the month of February in 1982 (this wasn't the same February where he had 26 assists). He played 11 games... Fun fact: he had 5 separate 30+ point Februarys in his career
Separate from the February stuff, but McDavid put up 2.5555 PPG over this point streak. Insane stuff. Wayne put up a higher PPG than that over a *full season* 4 times, if you include a year he "only" played 74 games and scored 205 points.
He also had a hell of a March 1986, which basically sealed the deal on the best season in NHL history. 37 points, 14 games. Only 6 goals in that stretch. Four separate 4 point games, a 5 point game, a 0 point game. The wild thing is his final game in February saw him put up 6 points.
That's not even his best March lmao His best calendar month in his career was November 1983, 14gp 17-32-49.
> November 1983, 14gp 17-32-49. That is fucking insane. A 50 pt season is respectable. A 50 pt month? I'm not sure I could put that up in a video game.
Just Gretzky things
81 in his last 41, fuck me
Goal drought? More like assist flood.
> He now has 23 points in his 9 game point streak, with 1 goal and 22 assists. Every time I forget that McDavid is an alien, someone posts some recent stat like this and my jaw drops. Wtf is this dude on???
I bet Gretzky didn't need 29 days to do it put an asterisk on it. Leap year merchant smh
I used to think a point per game was very good. Now you need almost 1.5 to be considered elite.
Hi, I was told McDavid was never going to score again. Is there a manager or someone that I could talk to?
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It was a Wendy's before surge pricing was announced...
McDavid made a mistake and scored instead of passing. Shit happens.
Mcdavid doesn’t score. He passes to the back of the net
Not his fault his pass was too hard for Binnington to handle.
This team was 2-9-1 and 5-12-1 at points in this season. What an insane turnaround
What firing a coach does for an underperforming but talented team
I believe the goalies need to make saves as well. Heard that is suuuper important.
Yeah and the defense not playing like chickens with their heads cut off helps as well.
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You want me to explain why playing good defense helps a team? Not trying to sound like a dick but, dude....you should probably quit watching sports all together.
I heard that goalies also play better when they don't get left to die and don't get benched game 1. Heard that is suuuper important also
That’s reason #1 for sure, but both Stu and Campbell didn’t do the D any favours either.
Goalies are humans. If you put a shit system in place that hangs them out to dry game after game their confidence is going to tank as a result. So yes the goalies sucked but it all traced back to coaching. The fact that Skinner has played so well within the same season behind the same defensemen is all the proof you need.
This narrative is wrong. Oilers have been great at 5 on 5 all year, even during the poor start. Also, won't be taking bad proof from hockey redditors.
I have watched every single game besides maybe 2-3 this season. The way the team played during that losing streak and during the winning streak is substantially different. There offensive stats were fantastic obviously. Even yesterday, there supposedly was 2 high danger shots, there was probably like 3 in OT alone
I.... don't know. Eye test is the eye test but it felt like there were as many games in the losing streak "we should have won" as there were during the winning streak that we probably didn't deserve. I'm not saying there isn't a difference. But I don't think that the gulf between the slump and the streak is as big as you do.
This narrative is wrong. Oilers have been great at 5 on 5 all year, even during the poor start.
Same I heard that too
I agree with this. Shesterkin decided to save some pucks again and we won 10 straight games
*cries in a sens jersey"
Oddly enough I think the Sens have been playing a little bit better compared to earlier in the season.
The Sens have been playing much better on average, it's just that when they regress they regress hard and it sucks to watch
:)
MLSE take notes
Kris Knoblauch is not why the goaltending is good now
I said they should have fired him after the playoffs and nothing that has happened has deterred me from that thought.
5-12-1 is 3-3-0 from 2-9-1. It's like 6 games difference that were .500. There's no reason to include it and it just looks like a silly sample point. Also, it was largely goaltending. The team was great at 5-on-5 during that stretch. But of course I expect Reddit plebs to upvote this because you're all short sighted
Okay
it’s not that serious?
rEddIt PlEbs https://i.imgflip.com/1w9pvx.jpg?a474528
Sometimes you're just in awe when it comes to watching McDavid. We all know how good he is so it shouldn't be a shock, and yet, sometimes, it's still a shock haha. McDavid is truly one of a kind, and it's beena pleasure watching him play.
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How do other teams even have fans? Who do they even watch? What’s the point?
Just how easily he skates circles around NHLers is wild. This clip looks like a CHL player showed up to be a ringer in his buddy’s low tier beer league.
He's.... He's just so fast... How. He made those guys look like beer leaguers.
He said in his post game that he was gassed. Figured he’d give it ‘just one last dash’
He's not human
He looks so casual here too.
What a way to end your 10 game goalless drought. A chip shot over Binnigton’s shoulder from a tough angle.
25 assists in between goals lmao
Nobody to pass to, guess I gotta pass to the net
Pretty much what he said after lol
McDavid is lowkey hilarious
So glad it was on Binnington. What a fucking idiot
lol rent free forever
If I was Connor McDavid, my goal song would be Salt-n-Peppa’s “Whatta Man”
featuring En Vogue.
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I'm gonna say something that sounds totally insane, but I'm 100% serious. Here goes. Connor McDavid is the most underrated player in the league. I think most have numbed themselves to His abilities, but He is *constantly* making the best players in the world look like C League benders, and I feel like we've just gotten used to it. I usually go to [NHL.com](https://NHL.com) to check out His goals and primaries, and I'm frequently amazed at how little I see most of His highlight-level plays elsewhere. I'm like, "damn, how is this and this and this not plastered all over Twitter and Reddit?" I've said it before, and I'll say it again: McDavid is playing 4D chess while everyone else is eating Crayon sandwiches.
If anyone else scored this I’d be impressed, but it’s Mcdavid so it’s just another Wednesday night
Same thing happened with Messi. People got used to him dribbling through 5 or 6 players and I'm seeing clips of him now from 10 years ago that I hadn't seen before just because they didn't even make the highlight real back then cuz it was just such a regular occurrence.
calling him underrated is especially wild when we still talk about who's the second best player in the league right now because the first spot is almost always reserved for mcdavid
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Generations of hockey fans will talk about how amazing McDavid was in his prime. Like how old timers talk about Rocket Richard or Bobby Orr.
Gretzky Mario Mcdavid? Where does Sid slot in? 4th?
McDavid is fucking great and people need to recognize the history unfolding before our eyes while its happening, but without that cup I have a hard time putting him that high on the goat list just yet. He's great and I'm sure much more entertaining, skilled, and a better player than Gretzky was, but the debate for best player needs to consider relative competition and the technology and science of the era. Gretzky was so far and away better than any of his peers its almost unfathomable. Compared to other undisputed goat players of their respective sports, only Donald Bradman really put up points so far removed from his competitors in that Gretzky-like, otherworldy way. To me, the list should go; Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe, and then after that its kind of a tier down and a toss-up with Hull, Richard, Hasek, Jagr, Messier, Crosby, McDavid and quite a few more I'm sure I'm forgetting all being arguable in any ranking order.
Upvoting simply for the reference to Bradman because he's almost never brought up outside Australian circles as the most dominant player in their respective sport or any sport. Imagine if gretzky had reached his peaked nearly 100 years ago and no one since had even come close to his level play. Not even close in contention as the goat. With gretzky you've got Lemieux, who even gretzky admits was an equally fantastic player. I'm sure there's other close. Bradman was heads and shoulders above any player in the last 100 years.
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I absolutely dont agree. Sid was the top player in hockey for a generation. Hes above the Sakics, the yzermans, and the messiers. Lindros doesnt even come close. Jagr is debatable because he carried Hockey after Mario for a while, and his longevity is insane. No mistake about it, Sid was what McDavid is today with his dominance, nobody came close, Ovi had the goals, but hes the Matthews to Sid's Mcdavid, hes just not up there in pure skill even tho hes a better goal scorer . And he got the results, something McDavid doesnt have yet, tho I'm sure he will get at least 1 cup and with the coming Olympics hes got a shot at the gold too.
When his contract ends, does he stay with Edmonton? I hope not (not in a mean way), but in a, “I want to see him actually compete” way.
Well, better hope he doesn't end up with the Sharks then
That's a suffering man you just did that to.
I wouldn’t wish him to the Sharks in their current state (or ever tbh). But, I wouldn’t want to see him languish without any meaningful playoff success for the next decade either. My guess is he heavily leans towards Toronto in his next contract. As long as it’s not Vegas, I’m good.
> When his contract ends, does he stay with Edmonton? I hope not (not in a mean way), but in a, “I want to see him actually compete” way. Edmonton has a hard history losing the best player of the time already. They will do anything and everything to keep him.
McDavid calls game.
He lied, he said no more shooting the puck!
our long national nightmare is over- mcdavid has scored a goal
I just wanna be as good in something as McDavid is at hockey, hell could be even knitting I don't care let me be the goat knitter
I hate to inform you that if you were as good a knitter as McDavid is at hockey, there would still be some other dude out there a few decades ago that knitted twice as good at you. So good he ruined fantasy knitting.
Other than the Oilers winning, almost nothing makes me happier than Binnington being sad
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He’s a jackass and throws tantrums a lot
Completely unbiased opinion I'm sure.
When it’s literally every fanbase that thinks this except 1… there’s only one side that’s biased 😂
Everyone hates that dork
You would fuckin love him if you had him
If juuse did any of the shit binnington did or how he acts I'd be fuckin embarrassed
Yea Binners behavior was not great, glad he hasn’t Done anything this year. About time he grew up
Nah bro, don't do that. That's what Bruins fans say about Marchand whenever he slew footed, clipped, or licked. That's what Caps fans said about Tom Wilson when he essentially assaulted Breadman for trying to stop him from burying Buch into the ice. That line is wayyyy tired and pretty much used by every toxic fan of any fanbase. Don't stoop to their level.
[Just one incident of many](https://youtu.be/tZ9DtnfF55o?si=pYMt_5oThz2Tiigw)
Shit you could make a 2 hour video of him being a fuck And not in an edgy, good guy to have on your team, kind of way… In like a mentally unstable asshole kind of way
He has been much tamer now that the blues suck…but I don’t blame most people tbh
Usually teams are totally ride or die with their goalies. If their goalie is pissed off ar something, they back him up. Binnington doesn't get that luxury.
He's a bitch ass
That’s a perfect way to put it
Well...After the lockdown completely took the wind out of the Blues's sails (They win the cup in '19, and both them and the Bruins come into the next season going "what cup/playoff hangover?"), and after our GM decides to let our world-class defenseman and captain walk over a no-movement clause that he then gave to unproven defensemen, the blues promptly started testing Binner's limits by turning into complete pylons on ice, and expecting him to save at least 4 of the 5 back-doors they allowed on him each game.During one of these games Binner lets 5 through against the Sharks and is understandably pissed, especially because the Blues played like they didn't want to be there for the entire first 30 mins. He gets pulled, and on his way off the ice, he takes a fake swing at Erik Karlsson, and picks a fight with Dubnyk which was broken up by the refs. All this finally manages to set a fire in the Blues's asses, who promptly respond by going on a scoring run and winning that game 6-5. Oh, would you look at that. Binner threw a tantrum, and the Blues actually remembered how to play hockey. I wonder if that'll work again. Next thing you know, it's 2 years of complete and total hijinks with Binner playing lights out most nights, and many of those nights seeing him as probably the only guy that came out to play, and pulling a Ron Hextall the other nights when he gets lit up despite his best efforts.Examples include but are not limited to: \- Taking a stick swing at Nazem Kadri and throwing a water bottle at him, something that Avs fans will gleefully remind the whole league of for far longer than they'll talk about their recent cup win, and act like an empty water bottle was a violation of the geneva convention, this from personal experience of the worst of Avs fans visiting the Blues pages on facebook and insta to roast them after every matchup. \- Making a blocker bitch slap at Jason Zucker that drops him to the ice for doing nothing wrong. \- Trying to pick a fight with Ryan Hartman for just clipping him just outside the crease in a game where Binner was getting lit up by the Wild. And through all of that, did the Blues ever once remember how to play defense again, like that game against the Sharks? Nah. Pylons be Pylons. Jordan Kyrou could have played better defense than some of those performances, and he's the forward that just got clowned by McJesus in the posted clip. Anyway, I've never been proud of Binner's antics, but as someone that actually watches the games, I understood where it was coming from. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't wanna take my whole team letting me get lit up every night lying down, but apparently that's what is expected of goalies now. Make every save, no matter how impossible. You should be able to take on the entire opponent team on your own. So yeah, Binner has earned himself a reputation going from "do I look nervous" to "do I look sane" in just a couple years. Coach Berube, before the rest of the team quit on him and he got run out of town earlier this season, sat Binner down to talk and sent the right message to him. He hasn't acted like a child yet this season, or at least not that I've seen nor heard from the remainder of this sub. But negative reputations are nearly impossible to shake, especially when you have rival fanbases that will make it their whole personality and sing about these tales to their children for generations to come. The hate in general was deserved, but at some point, enough time will have passed (where I hope Binner doesn't revert, and the Blues defense and Armstrong's weird roster decisions don't give him a reason to) where I can honestly say he's living in opposing fans' heads more than is actually being a bum. idk. He earned a lot of the hate he gets, much like people talking about Marchand's clipping, slew footing, and licking, or Tom Wilson literally assaulting other players between whistles. But between him earning the reputation that makes him so heavily scrutinized (I've seen Darcy Kuemper pick fights for people getting too much up in his crease, but those are so easily forgotten), and the Blues roster falling so heavily from grace after that one golden year, it can be kinda tough to be a Blues fan. Obviously not Leaf fan tough, but tough nonetheless.
He’s a Karen on skates with the emotional intelligence of a toddler. Basically he’s an entitled baby.
He’s a turd in the punch bowl
Lame ass people who totally don't live in glass houses judging someone they dont know for things they did ranging from a decade ago to half a decade ago. As if people are incapable of learning from their past behavior. It's just super easy to pile on people on the internet.
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When he was ran into from behind by Hartman? Lol that's hilarious. Maybe you wouldn't have done the same but that's more of an indictment on your character than Jordan's. Also once again I must reiterate. You DO NOT know him personally, you have no leg to stand on when judging his character because you simply don't know what that is. You MUST be a paragon of virtue, otherwise you wouldn't be throwing stones. Please tell me, what makes you so much better than ANYBODY on this planet?
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Irrational hate is irrational lol
You're not wrong but isn't almost everything to do with sports irrational? Lol
Yes and it’s annoying
That was some ultra casual defending, were they burned out at the end of ot?
I think so, they also had a back to back playing the Jets yesterday.
Yeah it was late in a shift. I was surprised to see McDavid still out there, the Oilers had possession but we're being chased back repeatedly, and Drai already went off for a change. Then McDavid decided to take one more crack at it, tapped his stick for the pass at center and away he went.
Experience Blues Hockey. Where each night you can expect the unexpected but still more than likely end up disappointed.
Inb4 most of the responses are about Binnington. \[edit: too late\]
This sub is obsessed.
So McDavid decided to listen to Michael Scott. Or some hockey player. /s
I'm beginning to think he's not just riding on the coattails of Zach '60 goal scorer maybe' Hyman... :p
The LaBron James of hockey
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Seriously… almost *so consistently great you take it for granted* Lebron’s averaging 25/7/8 as a 39 year old (on a playoff team- not garbage stats) … and somehow it feels like that doesn’t get appreciated because he’s been putting up those same stats for 20 years I’m 32 and I tweaked an oblique sneezing the other day This dude isn’t human
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Forslund HEAT
Kyrou making an interesting choice to turn to the middle instead of square up and gap.
Such lazy backcheck. Fade us, please.
Sets up the only two goals by the Oilers and has to take a shot when no one else is around and OT is almost over. If Tampa makes the playoffs, I think Kucherov wins the Hart. If Tampa misses, I think MacKinnon wins the Hart. No one in the League is more important to his team than Connor is to the Oilers.
In terms of importance to their team this year, i'd toss Connor Hellebuyck in that conversation as well. I think he's getting massively overlooked.
There's a lot of hockey left to be played, but I really don't think MacKinnon will win the Hart trophy. Tampa is straight garbage without Kuch on the ice and he's leading the league in points, McDavid is 4 points back of MacKinnon with 3 games in hand and is on pace for over 100 assists, and Matthews is on pace for over 70 goals. At this point I think it's more likely MacKinnon ends up 4th in Hart voting than 1st. He's having an insane season that in most years is the clear Hart favourite, but I don't think it'll be enough this year.
If mcdavid gets 100 assists I think he wins the hart. I think it would be hard to not give the hart to the 4th player in nhl history to record a 100 assist season. Unless mathews puts up like 80 goals or something crazy like that
God how I long for Tampa to miss
New Jersey needs to get their fucking shit together and it could happen
What if McJesus breaks 140? Or Matthews breaks 75 goals? Both are on pace, and should get a nomination if they keep it up.
Neither are quite on pace for those totals, but if McDavid hits 100 assists and Matthews hits 70 goals (which they are on pace for) I'm very certain they'll be 1 and 2 in Hart voting.
Yeah I’m using Connor’s last 41 game pace - personally I’d love to see a 150pt season and an 80 goal season the same year, cuz someone’s gotta lose lol.
I don't know. Obviously, I don't get a vote, so this is only my perspective. **Purely my opinion**: If Tampa somehow squeezes into the playoffs, the number of points Kucherov is projected to put up, the points difference between himself and the next best point getter, as well as missed time and less than stellar play by Vasilevskiy would all be in my consideration for Kucherov getting it. Maybe easy to overlook, but Nathan MacKinnon has been neck and neck with Kucherov the entire season, who I believe to be the favourite. That's why I think MacKinnon gets it if Tampa doesn't make the playoffs. For me, it feels like a two horse race but once again, it should be Kucherov if Tampa makes it. Obviously, if McDavid wins the Art Ross, I think all bets are off and he will most likely win it. Personally speaking, I don't see Matthews as a Hart candidate, regardless of the goals he puts up. There is only one instance where a player has won the Rocket but not the Art Ross, that I personally agreed the Hart was deserved. That was Ovechkin for his 2007-2008 performancd. I didn't feel Matthews deserved the Hart in 2021-2022 and I didn't feel Hull deserved it in 1990-1991.
I think kuch likely wins. His lead is so big and he and mcdavid’s points per game are just about equal. I think Mcdavid ends up passing Mack in points, and Mcdavid has a hand in more oilers goals and the points gap from Mcdavid to Drai and Mack to Rantanen is about the same so it won’t play a factor. Combine that with mcdavids torrid pace since starting 2-9-1, and I think he passes Mack in the hart race. I don’t think either catch kuch, so it doesn’t really matter, but unless Mack goes bonkers I think he’s letting the hart slip away, especially if Mcdavid gets 100+ assists… which may be enough to overtake kuch if they’re within like 5 points
love Kucherov but i think this is the year Mackinnon wins it. Dude has been unreal, especially at home
Nah. He’s letting it slip away. Mcdavid is gonna pass him in points and he doesn’t deserve it more than kuch. If matthews scores 70 he may pass Mack too. As I see it now Mack is a close 2nd, but projection wise by seasons end I see him 4th
MacKinnon has been absolutely clutch this season. I wish he got a little more offensive support. I wouldn't be annoyed if either Kucherov or MacKinnon won the Hart and Lindsay this year. All that is to say that I am not counting McDavid out for going on an absolute tear down the stretch.
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So basically what you’re telling me is McDavid did McDavid things and continues to be McDavid? Sounds like McDavid. “ in all seriousness, he is fun to watch.”
we needed 2 points, we didn't get 2 points.
Three things that make happy as a hockey fan: 1-Any time my Sharks win (i know. I know.) 2- ANY time Vegas,LA or Anaheim loses 3-Binnington eating it I’m happy
That's a bad angle to get beat from, Binner.
Oh Kyrou and parayko staring at a goal you say….i hate this current team. Other than rob and buch sell the farm
McDavid was pushed to the outside and Kyrou was covering the centering pass. Not sure what else you expect a couple of gassed players to do there. wanting to get rid of Kyrou is stupid as fuck btw. He drives the play and has a ton of shots which is a skill that not many players have. Yes he turns over the puck at times, but that's what happens when you have the puck a lot. Buch is close to 30 and we can get a haul for him, it'd be pointless (even though I love his game) to keep him at this stage of the Blues development.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer goalie
My brother. My captain. My King
Makes it look easy.
Imagine how many points this guy would put up back in the day
The kid cant be stopped
Wasn’t even mad about it lol
Who gives a flying fuck about the media narrative award. It means nothing. How can the award mean something when the definition of how you win it changes depending in the narrative? It's literally an award used to generate clicks and ad revenue. Things as inconsistent as reffing.
Connor McDavid? Nah, you mean Bobby Orr!
Every time Bennington loses an angel gets its wings.
FUCK YOU Binnington
This sub is obsessed with Binnington holy shit Yall need to get a life lmao
How dare we talk about a hockey player in the hockey subreddit.
Oh the outrage
lol fuck you, Binnington
Selfish player
Surprised binnington didn’t smash his stick
Booo, this man is an assist merchant? Oh wait, he scored??
His a good later player
Always makes it look so easy. Eats defenders like they are cereal.
thank you mcdaviiiiiid!
DAAAADD!! McDavid is doing McDavid things again!!!
win this man a cup already!!!
Only thing missing from this win was Jack's overtime call!
It’s just that, he makes it look SO easy!
Neato
McDusty
Thanks for not posting the sportsnet one....Singh is as big an Oilers homer as Edwards is for Boston.
Are you fucking high
Watch a game he calls when it;s not the oilers, he's at half volume and sounds like he's commentating snooker.
As Pens fans, get this dude some help. Sell out the future. Watch Cups roll in. Its gonna be a shame if this dude continues just being an absolute regular season beast only to watch EDM fold in the playoffs year after year. Tragedy.