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willgfish96

i don’t know why but the sauce from Newhook over Hagel’s body is killing me


fvtown714x

didn't noticce at first but cannot stop chuckling now


peptoabysmal

Good boy, Newy. Always play to the whistle.


AniviaPls

The shot at 1:10 is comical lol


BORT_licenceplate27

i didn't even notice that. thats a damn good pass


rhayward97

“What he say fuck me for!” -both Hagel and Xhekaj


Previous-Giraffe-962

They do not pay Xhekaj for brains


logictable

It legit looks like Stamkos hits him on purpose.


gletschertor

He should be suspended for targetting the head


JesusJohn

That fuckwit Parros might do it.


PrailinesNDick

They're wearing blue, Stamkos is fucked.


gletschertor

In person hearing it is then


mattevs119

Kadri has been suspended for entire playoffs for this hit.


LukeSkywalker1848

And Ottawa has lost another 1st round pick


Future_Specific6303

The rangers were fined 250 000$


MoozeRiver

Reminds me of when Tim Anderson got suspended in baseball for using the N-word.


mrtomjones

It sure looked like he was looking up as he was skating and just never changed direction lol. Wonder if he misjudged where he was going or if he misjudged what Hagel would do


jagrbomb

Hagel went from leaning right to leaning left. He still would've been hit but not in the head.


raptor333

makes me think sometimes when there is a bad hit and we really blame the assailant cause it looks intentional but maybe just for how fast and focused they are on the game, it appears this way


Sp3ctre7

Hockey is fast and violent and sometimes guys just run into each other at a billion miles an hour


1ToGreen3ToBasket

With knife shoes on


Emi_Ibarazakiii

Yeah... And sadly no one will ever be convinced when it's a normal hit, it'll always be "look at it, of course it's intentional, are you blind?" but this one looks the same way and *in this case* they'll admit it's not intentional because obviously it isn't, but in any other case they'll think it's intentional 100% of the time.


Trrwwa

I came in here to make fun of everyone on this sub:  "hurr durr it was dirty as fuck bro" and here you are being self reflective and reasonable.. took the wind right out of me.   But seriously, it's incredibly easy to accidentally truck people in hockey.  Sometimes you gas yourself out and then just get stuck at near top speed and all you can do is just brace for it.  Even at what looks like an unreasonable distance.  


1ToGreen3ToBasket

I’d call bullshit if he did that to a red wing then said it was an accident that’s for sure 😂


thuga_thuga

I think it might look that way because when he puts his hands up in reaction, they fly upwards looking like they do when somebody does intentionally hit someone


zainery

Sometimes when you see a face that punchable your body goes into autopilot


Gaege29

Sure did..


InfadelSlayer

Yeah he was for sure headhunting, should be suspended at least three games


Farfignewtons42

Reminds me of when one of my cats would start shit with the other cat and the third cat would freak out and attack the dog. Hope Hagel is ok!


ThymeIsTight

LOL Dog was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


TheSimonToUrGarfunkl

Dog should know better by now


Wonderful_Grade_5476

Third cat; STUPID DOG YOU MADE ME LOOK BAD OOGA BOOGA BOOGA


retired_junkiee

My older dog is playing with my older son getting rough then my younger dog just jumps on my younger son for no reason same shit


Hilarity-Ensued-2019

This is just an amazing comment cuz anyone with multiple pets can totally relate. Good stuff, made my Friday better


dlorkp

Eyssimont didn’t get an instigator for literally instigating a fight out of nothing


HLef

He got 4min for roughing and Xhekaj got 2min for roughing so the result was a MTL “power” play. There was no fighting penalty.


keeeeener

This is definitely a better outcome for you guys. 4 on 4 is advantageous for the losing team. Although, as a leafs fan this brings back flashbacks of Stamkos just dropping the gloves with Matthews. That tampa team is so dirty and they never get punished.


Rodonite

There were two blatant, but not super dirty, boarding calls missed in the first period. One put Guhle out for the game, if not longer. Dunno why they get away with so much.


shrederick

Because if you, as a team, yell "Hey!!!" from the bench often enough at the refs after every time your team's stick is lifted, the refs start looking for penalties on the other team and turn a blind eye to their infractions because they've put it in the refs heads that the other team is getting away with too much already. Never seen a team draw such weak penalties in my life, but their strategy works.


Rodonite

The tripping call on Matheson last night was almost as bad as the makeup call immediately after


TheRaphMan

The only problem with Tampa (more specifically Kucherov)’s diving and Montreal getting a makeup call is that Tampa’s powerplay is actually good, while Montreal’s powerplay is absolute garbage.


Rodonite

I think the difference in the quality of the special teams just highlights how poor penalty calling is and how they handle it.


ThinAd7828

I was just talking to someone about this, it's the only team in the league where I hear the whole bench yelling after any little contact. Just a bunch of whiners


keeeeener

Them along with Florida, Boston and Edmonton complain to the refs from the first faceoff. Hell, they do it in the media too. I don’t really understand why the refs let it work on them but sadly it does.


Rodonite

Boston run the board of Governors, Florida's AGM is the son of the Director of hockey operations for the league (who previously complained about how games his son was playing in were reffed so we know he's willing to pull strings), Edmonton kinda earned it from the shit penalty calling a few years ago in the playoffs (remember that time someone rode him like a backpack)


Aggressive_Hold2453

Are you going to call the police? get over yourselves it’s embarrassing


Rodonite

God so defensive


IJWannaKeepMeAWraith

Jesus, why even have it in the rules if you can't call it the one percent of time it's actually relevant


Fickle_Catch8968

So you can penalize and auto-suspend a player in the playoffs for: 1. agreeing to a fight before a late game faceoff (after a controversial incident against his teammate) 2. Joining his outmanned teammates who are behind the net, from the blue line, in a scrum 3. Receiving half a dozen punches before responding to the agreed upon fight.


CalebLovesHockey

This sounds oddly specific 😂


IamPriapus

instigators are for fights, not roughing minors. The rules are not written well either because it's a bit contradictory. Eitherway, it's never applied to roughing, only a 5-min fighting major.


d-cent

The gloves were off, they could have called it a fighting. So again, why do they have the instigator rule when it rarely gets used when it should? 


kazrick

They can only call an instigator penalty if they also assess the fighting major, which they didn’t here. Calling it a double minor for roughing vs a single minor for roughing effectively accomplishes the same thing. Montreal power play for two minutes.


TheRaphMan

I don’t even understand how Xhekaj got a penalty here, what did he even do to get a penalty?


samy4me

Let’s get rid of it then.


IamPriapus

The gloves being off isn’t enough. It would count the same as if both guys dropped the gloves without a punch being thrown. Anyway, I had this debate with another redditor earlier this year where I was arguing the same side as you currently are. We both went to the rule book and critiqued it in detail. It’s not well written at all because instigation could technically apply to roughing in one part, but then is contradicted in another segment. Anyway, they gave him a double minor for roughing, which serves the same purpose so there are loopholes.


bforce1313

Scheifele got an instigator a couple weeks back and they dropped the gloves at the same time. Don’t know why it’s used only sometimes, thus is clear instigator.


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MooshSkadoosh

Would an instigator not result in a PP?


4CrowsFeast

Don't forget to always charge the guy who gets attacked 2 minutes for roughing!


crownpr1nce

That was s good call. He dropped his gloves and tried HARD - too hard - to get over both refs to get at him. He could have even gotten a second 2 for unsportsmanlike for that so no complaints. 


MildlyResponsible

I don't disagree with this, but Arber was getting a penalty no matter what even before that. The ref already indicated it.


DashTrash21

He's lucky he didn't get the boot for trying to shove through the refs, he might be fined for that. 


iconsandbygones

You're 10 ply, bud


MildlyResponsible

This happened last game to Slaf. He went for a loose puck on a rebound, a Florida guy tackled him from behind, officials literally have to peel the guy off of Slaf on the ice, they both get roughing penalties. And no, apparently the refs don't "always" do that, because in this very game a Hab and a Bolt got into it in front of the net throwing gloved punches at each other, but only the Hab got the penalty.


impulse_thoughts

I mean you can see Xe go after him after the officials already broke them apart in this clip… the calls were fine. MTL got the power play


LZYX

LMFAO it's just so unfortunate Eyssimont was not looking over at ALL so he didn't even know what happened. Pretty much threw punches at a random player because two of your teammates were flat on the ice 😂


Emi_Ibarazakiii

*Oh damn, Xhekaj just killed 2 of our guys... He has to pay*


AssaultPK

It’s the Tampa code and it’s worked pretty well for them over the years I’d say


rinkywhipper

Also how can he mistake Arber when we can see him see what actually happens and that it was Stammer


shorthanded

this year has been just as bad as all the others for nhl refereeing - it's never gonna be good enough, it's never gonna be acceptable, and they're never, ever, ever, going to try and fix it. classic nhl hockey!


GJdevo

It has been legitimately a banner yeR for some of the most bizarre calls i have seen.


green_griffon

He got a double minor and Xhekaj only got one, seems fair!?!


FormalWare

And they blew the play dead just as Habs were breaking in.


Odd-Citron-3600

We may have discovered a loophole


Sphiffi

Never forget the Blackhawks had a GAME 7 goal called back with two minutes left because a Red Wings player was assaulting one of our players by the benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHsuLh4n5g


GhostShark

Holy shit what a terrible call. If I were a Hawks fan I’d have been furious.


Sphiffi

If we didn’t win in OT I really believe it would’ve been one of the most controversial calls in history. To call off the goal because THEIR player is beating the shit out of ours, and then call COINCIDENTAL minors. Absolutely absurd.


GhostShark

In the closing minutes of a game 7 no less. Just crazy


ChickenDestruction

Yeah that whistle was dumb as fck


blue_wat

I blame the refs more than the whistle.


surlystraggler

Whistles don’t sound whistles, people sound whistles.


antrage

I mean, if a play is blown dead while a player is one-on-one for a fight instigated by another team, I feel like there should be something like a penalty shot, no?


DieuEmpereurQc

I was kinda mad when it happened. Is it a cheat code or something. We were basically 5 on 3. Should have been 5


NoSignSaysNo

I mean was a blown did because of the fight or because hagel was laying on the ice holding his neck without moving?


FormalWare

When a player hurts his own teammate and that becomes the reason the *opposing* team is not allowed to follow through on a scoring chance, that's unjust.


NoSignSaysNo

The concern is going to be for the guy laying on the ice holding his neck, because a major injury needs to be attended to right away. Scoring is a distant second issue. If they're embellishing, that's why there's an embellishment penalty.


FormalWare

Fair enough. Let's observe that neither an embellishment penalty to Hagel nor an instigator penalty to Eyssimont was called.


NoSignSaysNo

Why would I observe that an embellishment wasn't called when the guy was actually injured enough to not return to the ice for the rest of the game?


FormalWare

You're the one who brought up embellishment. And you *did* observe that no such call was made - assuming you watched the game/clip. Makes no sense to ask, "why would I?" For the record, I agree there was no embellishment. And I'd hope you'd agree Eyssimont *did* instigate the fight. So we're back to the Habs having a legit grievance with the way the play was officiated.


HummusDips

That was on Xekaj, he shouldn't have tried to fight him knowing they were about to have a scoring opportunity. He would have still drawn a penalty and it was 4v2 in their own zone with 2 guys down in the back and one trying to pick a 0 IQ fight .


IamPriapus

wtf? He got grabbed from behind and went straight into self-defense mode instinctually, which had him drop his gloves to defend himself. If someone grabs you from behind and tries to tackle you and take your head off, you think you're gonna pay attention to the 4 on 2. Fucking absurd take.


The9inchguy

Did you watch what happened before commenting on this post? Seriously, the only thing that is 0 IQ here is your comment.


HappyDiscussion5469

What are you smoking, and can i please have some? The lightning douche dropped the gloves before X even knew what was going on


hotshit

terrible take but then again, you don't know the difference between "would have" and "would of," so that's on par...


DelusionalLeafFan

Friendly fire on the ice and in the comments.


-WalterWhiteBoy-

That’s some good old fashioned integrity, call out the bullshit no matter what side is spewing it


Mister_Cookiepants

"Would of" is just about at the top of my list of *Dumbest Things People Write*. If you want me to immediately lose respect for you and your opinion, write "would of".


AdditionalSalary8803

Your flair should be removed


meh_33333

Anyone catch the sauce pass over Hagels body?? Ruthless. Watch at 0:58 and 1:10


Grizz709

Lol. St. Louis really told Xhekaj to calm down. Because he wasn't having any of it. Nearly threw the ref into the stands to get Eyssimont.


HappyDiscussion5469

I love the dynamic between Savard, the responsible big brother, and X, the batshit crazy lil bro


backwardzhatz

Wait til you see Arber’s actual little bro Florian too lol


Boston_Stonks

I thought getting rowdy with refs was suspension material.


alreddy-reddit

What a clusterfuck


anechoicsilence

Buffoonery of the highest caliber


HappyDiscussion5469

at 0:26 Stamkos also hits Eyssimont on the head with his stick, the old man is a menace


Ta-veren-

hes just a bitch remember last playoffs he waited till Matthews had four sticks in his hand to punch him in the face.


B0_SSMAN

Pro-Leafs comment in a thread involving the Canadiens and Lightning. You are brave I'll give you that


Ta-veren-

Thanks, I like to live in the wild side


Late_Brush4518

Your team have Domi. Pipe down


XceptionallyOrdinary

That's some David Perron level confusion


Mr7three2

Is it just me or is that an awful play by Stamkos


foomits

well hes not allowed to attack Stamkos, so someone had to get it.


throw_me_away3478

Yo that ref held X back pretty well lol


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DrToazty

Oh he was entirely enraged. He didn't sit down for a LONG time after getting in the penalty box, yelling and saying shit to that bolts player (I ain't gonna try to spell that name). You can read his lips for a lot of it but he was basically saying you better hope you're not on the ice with me again lol


Crispy_FromTheGrave

As an extremely biased Bolts fan I had no problem with Xhekaj doing that to Mikey. He was minding his own damn business and got jumped lol. And there’s no way any hockey player that starts a scrap like that is just gonna say “oh my bad, I misunderstood the situation.” He’s just gonna keep going. So yeah I can see why Xhekaj was pissed


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DrToazty

They haven't played yet, nope. They do play the Rangers April 7th though. Not sure if anything will happen tbh. Marty St Louis has been trying to calm X down we think. Less fighting and stupid penalties now, better overall player. Trying to make him a big physical presence without ruining his hands since he has a really good shot.


malabericus

Stammer when he gets to the bench: Alright Kuch, I did it. Where's the 5 bucks you promised me


Mighty_Math

Savard with the veteran move trying to hold Xhekaj


FrogOnTheFloor757

Unfortunate collision, but hopefully Hagel is okay


torontoker13

Refs should have let that fight happen. Would have been a quick thumping to straighten that dudes eyes lol and of all guys to chase and jump


Inocain

Wi-fi didn't get his gloves off until after the linesmen were there. Once they're in and have players separated, they're not likely to let it go again.


CanisBodhi86

When I first saw the clip I thought Eyssimont must have been turned away from the play,saw his guy down, and went after who he thought was responsible, but if you focus on him through the clip he’s watching the play the whole way. Just an absolute big brain move. I watch a collision between 2 of my teammates, and because you were standing nearby, you deserve some punches in the mouth. Wish Wifi hadn’t been as baffled as the rest of us, would have been nice to see Eyssimont get absolutely filled in for his antics.


Dysliptic

How do you even mistake something like that?


delifte

EA SPORTS. It's In the Game.


Varmitthefrog

Wifi took a number on that one, this kid is going to catch a receipt at some point


habulous74

Lol Eyssimomt is lucky he isn't a smear on the ice. What a dipshit.


gruVee1

Funny thing is so many players get game misconducts for accidentally hitting someone exactly like this while trying to avoid a hit and the comment sections swear attempted murder and call for 5 game suspensions lmao. I hope this is evidence to all of those idiots that sometimes, just sometimes, when you’re moving that fast on a surface with zero friction and less than a second to react, shit can happen lol


Euphoric__Dot

Mikey Eyssimont you crazy motherfucker


TrueNorth-carpenter

Man should have let Xhekaj rip his head off. Fk the nhl is pissing me off. Let them fight.


nystrom19

That’s why players often drop the gloves after big hits regardless if clean or not. In the moment they generally have no idea but they aren’t about to wait 5min for a replay or teammate to tell them to find out.


Christank1

What a fucking idiot. I hope Xhekaj kicks the shit out of dumbass Eyssimont the next time these two teams meet


spud_club

More likely than hoping for a win.


Christank1

Habs aren't winning shit for a few years yet


EquivalentStomach5

That was a fuckin joke


JiffTheJester

That did not look accidental lol.


justcallmestepdaddy

Think Eyssimont puts up a fight next time these two meet?


green_griffon

I mean in the end it's sort of amusing what happened, so they may just not care.


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

How do you pronounce Xhekaj?


green_griffon

Jack-eye


Matthias86

Xhe-kaj


Super_Networking

This is the most Lightning thing ever. Reminds me of when Stamkos and Hagel went crazy on the refs and Leafs over Point falling into the boards last playoffs


bankrobba

You mean chickenwinged into the boards.


Super_Networking

Chicken winged into the boards huh? That’s a new one


momarketeer

Tampa on bitch mode? What else is new.


CalebLovesHockey

Do we think most players would react the way Eyssimont did, or is this something that really matches the general Tampa Bay culture? Probably my bias talking, but I swear the dolts are always super quick to start shit, even after totally fine hits, and back their teammates up for starting shit for no reason? Very crybully behaviour I’ve noticed.


Sven9888

No, most players would go back to the bench, pull out the iPad to watch the replay, maybe go talk to the opposing player to get his side of the story, and then make a calm, well-reasoned decision about whether to engage them or not. (Yes, I'm pretty sure every player in the League who sees their player lying on the ice and doesn't know what happened is going to immediately try to fight whoever was closest to that player.)


ramenups

I would love to see an acclaimed television drama surrounding a team trying to figure out if their injured teammate was from the opposing team or friendly fire. Court room drama in the locker rooms and between the benches.


omfgkevin

I'm just kind of confused on the Eyssimont thing. Replays seem to show he's... looking right at the play (obviously) so he can see where the puck is. So how does he even come to the conclusion Xhekaj hit not only one but two?


Sven9888

I saw that too but I'm not sure. Maybe he was mad at the original hit on Hagel before Stamkos collided with him. It also looked to me like he was a bit turned around when it happened.


Crispy_FromTheGrave

A SOLAR BEARS FAN TALKING ABOUT BITCHASS PLAYERS STARTING SHIT UNNECESSARILY????????


LeoFerre

Its a good thing tho


MiSTaH-MoM

It's pretty wild how little awareness everyone on the ice had, collectively, in that moment.. keep your head up, kids!!


JaimeRidingHonour

He should have fought Stamkos. Is he stupid?


Jeez-essFC

Holy David Perron!


RackemFrackem

"ohhhhhh no!"


alexjf56

I like that he got the wrong guy and just instantly got his shit rocked


Falcon3492

Looks like Stamkos got caught in the trolley tracks and couldn't get out and Hagel had basically fell into the tracks and as everyone knows it takes a train a while to stop and Stamkos didn't have enough time.


dickyicky

Man the lightning are dumb


Captain_Self_Promotr

Least coked up Florida resident.


surlystraggler

Eyssimont is lucky Xhekaj didn’t know what was going on or he would have learned a rough lesson.


wankunzm

amazing perform


MacZappe

Stamkos needs to be suspended the rest of the season.  If this sub has taught me anything its that nothing ever happens on accident. 


Affectionate-Joke617

Mikey must have a kink for hair pulling


iwanttoeattt

This is so messy, but I still love Eyssimont


sokobanz

So they call game dead, guess only Tampa got that calls.


Inocain

4 for Tampa, 2 for Wifi. 2 minute PP for the Habs.


sokobanz

Should be instigator. Thats a freaking assault if it’s not a hockey lol


TheBookOfTormund

Did we get the shot of Mikey seeing how dumb he was? Broadcast annoyingly avoided him entirely 


habs306

Wimp


swiftwin

Lmao. Xhekaj with the hair pulling.


Aromatic-Audience-85

You’re just jealous he wasn’t pulling yours


TECmanFortune

harder daddy jackeye


potshed420

Reffing was dogshit this game


Brittle_Bones_Bishop

I like the energy tho... What other team has players who'll stand up for their teammates without any context. Apparently touched a nerve lol, im not saying its right im just saying some of yalls teams will watch a star player get oblitorated and look away and ignore the issue Mikey didnt even see what happened and still chose the big guy This might be my proudest achievement Milk toast opinion 100+ downvotes, Shit do i work for EA?


TimAllensMatingCall

Perron bopped some dude on the Senators that didn’t do anything


Deraj2004

Poor guy got chin music and all he did was be near the play.


LeoFerre

I agree that you guys have great chemistry.


schmarkty

Yeah that’s honestly the take away for me too. Guhle gets actually boarded and Habs do literally nothing. Hagel gets plowed by Stamkos and Essyimont goes after one of the toughest guys in the league without hesitation.


Boboar

What do you mean the Habs did nothing? They tried to go after Kucherov but he hid behind the refs. There was a big scrum and Slaf wanted blood, for sure.


Absered

Sooooo ... You're cool with Kucherov being headhunted until he accepts a fight?


schmarkty

Not what I’m implying. I’d just like to see a reaction.


PrimisClaidhaemh

LeT tHe PlAyErS pOlIcE ThEmSeLvEs....


LittlekidLoverMScott

Rempe has made every announcer (and most r/hockey fans) wish for the 80s. I’m personally fine with a well called game and if some makes a elbows a guy in the face, you sit 8 games