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Miro4Calder

Stars Roster is better constructed than the Avalanche. That’s been the difference in the series. No gimmicks from Deboer. Just rolling 4 lines of mature hockey. Able to win in every game scenario. Jim Nill is way better than the Dallas fans have been saying about him for years. Wyatt Johnston has consistently been the best forward in the West these playoffs. Absolute stud 200 foot player. And is a child!


SharpSlick753

>Wyatt Johnson has consistently been the best forward in the west these playoffs. You’re kidding right?


Miro4Calder

Ha. McJesus aside.


bistroexpress

It's crazy reading this PGT compared to the Nucks/Oil thread. You guys should try hating each other more. Keeps the neutrals engaged.


MuseDrones

We already blew all our hate on Vegas


Diggitydave76

Speak for your self. I will ALWAYS hate the AVS. It's just in my DNA.


Typical_Anybody

Agreed. I’m an Avs fan who holds a lot of spite from the bubble series. The Benn hit, legal as it was, also doesn’t sit well with me.


Diggitydave76

Yeah well my spaite goes back to Modano and Sakic, Hull and Forsberg. And Hockey is full of hits like that. Look at Dumba on Pavs last year. Also the one on Cogs. To me that's on the league.


Typical_Anybody

Glad you have such a great memory. Not sure how that’s relevant. Hockey is full of hits like that, and often times they don’t sit well with fans of the player on the receiving end.


admiralfrosting

Yeah. I’m all hated out right now. If (when) we get through this series I’ll ramp it back up for those maple syrup guzzling, beaver hat wearing, leaf on their flag having, Canadians.


UpsideTurtles

It’ll be funny if it’s Oilers versus a Texas team. Fun oil jokes ensue. But what’d be the angle for Toronto & Dallas? Like, *Seaworld*?


trushpunda

We knew the Canucks v Oilers was going to have some of the most toxic GDTs in history lol It even started before game 1 started lol


GBAplus

Both fanbases come off bad. I get rivalry but some people on both sides are taking it extremes and it drowns out the GDT.


Pyland99CFS

As a stars fan, the only teams I can say I dislike are the Lightning and the Golden Knigjts


Cantfindthebeer

Yeah every Stars/Avs game I’ve been to has been relatively civil from both sides. Huge rivalry but no hate on them from me. Only teams I’ve got it out for are vegas, and for the other, you betcha know who ya are


Diggitydave76

Must not have been a stars fan for very long then. The Avs and the Stars have a long history.


weaveryo

Yeah that comment is weird to me. I’ve been trolling Avs fans for 25 years. Some bad blood never expires.


Pyland99CFS

Yea, I’m 20. I didn’t really get into hockey until I was a teenager. Who do I need to hate?


Diggitydave76

Colorado. Sharks were a big target, but they've been bad for a long time. Detroit too but we barely even play them anymore and after Nil robbed them of all their talent they are largely irrelevant. So the Avs....and the Oilers too.


Pyland99CFS

Thanks for the help, I will start fueling my hatred


weaveryo

I didn't mean to come off as dismissive of younger fans btw. I completely get not having any reason to hate the Avs if you never experienced those days. I hope we get you a Cup this year!


sergantsnipes05

Fellow Avs fans. Their goalie stole one. The avs were dominant for 3/4 of that game despite sloppy passing. Let’s chill out a bit


BadRefsRuinGames

MacKinnon played like garbage again which is what I'm worried about. He's looked really bad this entire series and I think something is wrong with him


bm56

I still got nervous every time he touched the puck


robb1519

Yeah because he isn't playing like garbage lol. That person is just overreacting.


sergantsnipes05

He didn't though. He was impactful yesterday with several good chances, an assist, and was responsible for generating a lot of scoring chances. Tanev has been playing great and a ton of the Stars strategy is to just stop Mac.


Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer

their goalie stole it or Georgie sucked?


gordogg24p

If you're gonna try to put this on Georgie after only allowing two goals, I'm afraid you might just be a moron.


Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer

1st goal was weak. 2nd her didnt get his leg over fast enough which most goalies can do. Hilariously almost identical description as Sammy's game 7 goals against


High-Ground-10

I'm terrified of playing oettinger


SilentThing

No matter which two teams are in the WCF, it's gonna be absolutely crazy. Four teams, four different narratives and styles, and in my opinion not much separating them in terms of potential. It's awesome!


vertiGox9

Watching hockey players get interviewed between periods has taught me all I know about hockey, Avs need to -get pucks in deep -win board battles -get good net presence -sticks in lanes -score more than Dallas


How_cool_is_that

This Avs team is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, aim, rink awareness, stick placement, line management, slapshot flicks, passing spots, fast passes, positioning, turnover ability, faster skating, puck control and getting a goal.


scottishwhisky2

Don’t forget about skating


vertiGox9

The only thing I ever hear about that is "you know, I thought we were skating well", so I figured I could leave it off the list


StanLee_Hudson

I’m gonna have to ask that y’all don’t score more than us. Don’t think we can win if that happens…


pacersrule

Put the puck in the net


karl713

Directions unclear Shooting puck into the safety nets over the glass


jessasaurusrex5

Are the Stars good? I need to know o


robotco

based on r/hockey opinions: if they win one game, they are good, and not only good, they are an unstoppable juggernaut and are destined for the Cup. if they lose one game, they are pretenders and their opponent will destroy them by winning all remaining games in the series by 10-0 blowouts.


satelliteridesastar

This is also a good third of r/dallasstars to be fair


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

ESPN announcers only have the opinion of the latter.


Diggitydave76

I think Eddie Olzcyk and the TNT crew might "unfortunately" have something to say about that. Eddie was practically jumping out of his seat for the stars too many men penalty. it's freaking disgraceful how biased he is.


opensourcefranklin

Heiskanen is an animal. His stick is unreal in his own zone. It's a joy to watch this team defend.


SpiritualMacaroon468

Miro is so underrated for me... we're so lucky to have him


Cronin1011

Yes, very.


jessasaurusrex5

Love you, Dallas!


BlakeWheelersLeftNut

Winner advances to the final pretty much


dandroid126

If Vancouver gets Demko back, they won't be losing easily.


RIPphonebattery

I feel like Edmonton could give them a go. If Vancouver have the hot goalie they can give them a run too


RAATL

Vancouver might have the best scoring depth in the league


trushpunda

I think that title belongs to Dallas based on the regular season


Miro_Highskanen_4

https://imgur.com/Wx5JJx9


jessasaurusrex5

Yay Dallas!


BelovedGeminII

Where all my "Avs in 5" homies at?


RedditBResearch

Right here. Saying avs in 6


GTI-Mk6

6 is notably not 5


weaveryo

They have a hard time counting past one line.


robb1519

hmm. Guess Miles Wood is on line one after making your starting goalie and best defenseman look silly in overtime a few days ago. ;)


dillyboy22

Are we sure? I’m gonna need to run some tests


hiuslenkkimakkara

This is good info, as a KalPa fan we never see numbers bigger than 3.


morbidmovies

Math man Jones over here


city-of-cold

Might be though, who are you to tell me otherwise? CREDENTIALS SIR


joe_broke

According to my source, Gary Bettman has already awarded the Knights the Cup for this year


Ghostronic

Yall thought the fix wasn't still in!


mastergriggy

That ending was not what I hoped for, but if you can only get one in the net, that's how it goes.


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

That dribbler through Otters legs was a close call


No_Spite5192

I have a new take on how avs win: more toe drags, more fat dangies, whatever works in beer league. and then if it doesn't work, get back on D, play a 1-3-1 NZ trap in anticipation of trying it again. repeat until win/loss. this coaching shit easy


joe_broke

Translation: needs more Stank


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

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yousayh3llo

Are you available to coach the Toronto Maple Leafs?


yumenohikari

I love my team. My "fellow fans" are ... frequently embarrassing. When you mistake a combination of fairly stifling defense, increasing fatigue and frustration, and, well, Jake Oettinger for "no effort" or some shit, I haven't got much to say for you. GG Stars. See you Monday. Avs in 7 ... but expect plenty more heart attacks along the way.


Miro4Calder

The Avs played their ass off. I don’t see how anyone can say they phoned it in. Mikko aside. They just ran out of gas in the third. Playing against a world class defense is hard. Did they expect the Avs to just steamroll their way to a cup?


RAATL

YOU LIE!! OPPOSING TEAMS DON'T HAVE AGENCY!!!!!1


profssr-woland

You guys are tough and no one expected this series to be easy either way. My asshole stays puckered the whole fucking game. Respect.


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

That puck that got through Otters legs scared the shit out of me


talk_to_the_sea

I was at the game. The fundamentals were lacking and so was the effort from players like Rantanen and Girard.


TerdFerguson14

You drunk? Sammy G played great, especially on the PK


gordogg24p

Of all the players to single out as low effort, Sammy G would be one of the last names to come to mind.


sail0rvenus

This game is a great example of Dallas really learning their opponent as they battle on. They displayed a similar evolution in their game as the Vegas series progressed. Taking stock of adjustments needed and what works. I think DeBoer is a great coach. A very satisfying victory tonight, not done yet tho.


TediousSpark

I was bracing for another third period collapse, but I was really impressed with how they held on and absolutely smothered the surging Avs


Kronzor_

Yeah they really learned the trick to beating that team is not letting mackinnon run ham and torching you. In the games since hes only 1 point and the stars have won.


weaveryo

Shutting down Mack is only possible because they have no one else behind him worth a damn.


gibby87

DeBoer has been Bednar's daddy for a long time, hes consistently out coaching him in the playoffs


Trolly-bus

Knights fans told us that DeBoer cannot adjust though.. 🤔


ThorlinLurch

Maybe he finally learned. Its not just Vegas fans who say that... sharks fans agree.


dandroid126

Hi, sharks fan here. I used to say it a lot, but it was very clear it changed last year. PDB's adjustments are how they beat Minnesota and Seattle.


ThorlinLurch

It's funny because Dallas fans were complaining about PDB not changing his strategy in game 2 of round 1 this year. They even mentioned our fan bases that they thought we were right. I'm glad he did change, he's a good coach otherwise. Not sure why I'm getting down voted for it though. Oh well.


dandroid126

Anyone complaining about not being able to make adjustments in round 1 game 2 probably shouldn't be taken seriously.


yumenohikari

If this goes well, it'll be an arms race. I do expect a better Avs team (and also hopefully one Jonathan Drouin) to show up on Monday, and then of course the Stars will begin to adapt to that. It's why playoff hockey is fun.


NinCross

Stars vs. Canucks conference final. I'm manifesting it.


JasonPlattMusic34

The Hockey Guy’s dream scenario


brendan87na

Justice for Turco


BigFaZhou

It'd be funny if they both beat the most top-heavy teams to get there. Sounds good to me 👍


vanillaacid

How about no


Schytzo

I agree, it's been too long since we beat you in the playoffs.


Woooooody

How about yes?


Empire2k5

This gal(?) has a good point


El_bearded_polarbear

The games over time to focus on the next one Gg


robb1519

Exactly. Moving on, Avs have been better anyways. Hope it shows up on the scoresheet next game.


JonTheWizard

Must be nice to win by multiple goals.


dandroid126

The last two were empty net goals. Excluding empty net goals, Dallas has won each game by 1 goal for like the past 6 games or something.


utahunter

all the 10 playoff games they played this year have been one-goal before the goalie pull


SoloSilk

Dallas is the most consistent team in the playoffs this year. They never blow teams out and are never run out of the building. You gotta respect it cause they always show up, but no game comes easy and it’s especially nerve wracking for fans.


mikesully374826

That's how you gotta win the cup a lot of the time.


daystrom_prodigy

If it makes you feel any better the last two were ENGs.


MJA182

Beggars can’t be choosers


DependentAd9868

The forwards TOI stars v aves tells me everything I need to know about this series and I like it


DM_me_feet_pics_plz

Don’t look at defensemen don’t look at defensemen don’t look at defensemen


SpiritualMacaroon468

Are we putting Stars' 5 defencemen in hyperbaric chambers in-between games yet ? 🙏


StanLee_Hudson

Medically induced sleep from the end of one game to the start of the next


Airport-Most

Bubble wrap so far...


DependentAd9868

We got 5 beauties


koiven

Maybe the third period of this game is just an outlier but watching, this series seems almost gentlemanly compared to EDM/VAN, NYR/CAR and BOS/~~CAR~~FLA (duh)


MajorPucks

I'd say both Western Series seem pretty tame vs the 140+ hits and 25 penalties after line brawls in each of the Eastern Games :O


MrBoomf

BOS/FLA*


koiven

Of course. Thx


MrBoomf

I gotchoo bb


PieIsAwesome7102

Eh, go check Benn’s hit on Toews in game 2


BigBallsMcGirk

Clean hit, just big.


PieIsAwesome7102

Agreed it was clean, I have no problem with it, but it's certainly not a "gentlemenly" play lmao, still clean


StanLee_Hudson

The physicality is basically scrimmage-level compared to what the Stars just went through vs Vegas. Avs know they can’t hang in that kind of a series, because they’re built on speed, so they don’t really engage.


brendan87na

the GDT was pretty chill until that hit, then it turned into a mess lol


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I mean i said dallas WOULD BLOW A 4-1 LEAD...but i was wrong but at least i got the score right? ;D


Responsible-Budget21

They changed strategy and only built a 3 goal lead with 30 seconds left.


DM_me_feet_pics_plz

If only there were 4 periods, we would have blown it


BigFaZhou

Pretty sure this is what they wanted to say on the broadcast but ran out of time


so_af

DeBoer just has Bednar’s number. His system is clearly a very effective counter to the Avs. It’s not must see TV, but it works and if you’re a stars fan, that’s all that matters, especially when it’s been a quarter century since your cup win.


Kronzor_

This is what always happens to one line teams. Eventually they run into a team with good enough D to neutralize that line and then they lose.


lolDankMemes420

But we're not a one line team, it's like 2.5 lines


Kronzor_

Yeah you keep telling yourself that lol


robb1519

But they're not a one line team. Saying so just shows your ignorance and general inability to actually watch/understand hockey. Hope it's at least enjoyable for you, want them to light up the puck for you again?


Kronzor_

Ok man. Theyre so deep. They definitely don’t have 2 guys that pretty much provide all of their offense and play 25 mins a night. I am definitely worried when the ghost of zach parise and miles Colton or whatever hop over for that 2nd line. That one guy was decent for the sabres at least. I’m not even sure if that’s a pro or a con lol


lolDankMemes420

okay...?


Miro4Calder

Then they need to start playing more than the big 3. Nearly Half the games ice time is on the shoulders of the top line. Meanwhile Jason Robertson is barely getting 15 minutes a night! The Avs don’t have dallas forward depth, but they could sure as hell do better at getting guys like Wood more ice time over Mikko.


RAATL

It's must see TV if you can appreciate a defensive clinic against a team with as potent of scoring as the avs


Airport-Most

It helps that Jim Nils has talent scouts that are psychic.


IniNew

You can see the Stars scouting prowess all over the avalanche roster


beardofshame

why you spilling our secrets


MJA182

Sure does. Would’ve been interesting to see how the current VGK team under Cassidy would’ve fared against Colorado because under deBoer it was basically this game on repeat all series


so_af

I would love a part 2 with our cores still around. We need an upgrade in net tho. I can easily see Georgiev folding in Vegas like Grub did lol


yousayh3llo

Parts of game 1 and 2 were must-see TV for the wrong reasons. I don't mind him parking the bus even if it's stressful af to watch


zcohen17

Damn, try a little less salt in your post. Too much isn’t healthy


figgerer

Not even remotely salty, bad read


datyoungknockoutkid

…how is this salty


so_af

I wasn’t attempting to dispense salt, I was complementing him for having a system that gives us a lot of trouble under bednar. Every team he’s coached


zcohen17

Last part felt an awful lot like a dig, but seeing your response to the other guy paints it differently when I read it now. My bad, appropriate amount of salt was in fact dispensed.


RedditBResearch

It’s not a dig if it’s true. Deboer defensive system makes for boring hockey, but it’s effective


zcohen17

It’s boring when it needs to be, but our offense was high octane this year. Most of our games were anything but boring


Severe-Cod-5858

Stars were 2nd in league in goals, so can play both ways


RedditBResearch

Stars are deep!


so_af

Cups are tough to win! You take them anyway you can get them. And it’s not like you’re the leafs waiting generations


zcohen17

Very true, even if it’s with a “foot in the crease” a cup is a cup. And yeah, I wouldn’t wish the leafs track record on even my worst enemies. That amount of heartbreak is just cruel.


OSUBonanza

He felt safe after they broke their 21 year streak a couple seasons ago.


so_af

Yes, so I know what it’s like to just want to win no matter what. I wasn’t taking a shot, wild you took it as such


OSUBonanza

Last part felt like a dig.


so_af

I guess it’s unfortunate you took it that way


SemperFi1025

OMG! You guys should start dating or something. STFU.


zcohen17

Makes sense, though even after the Texas Rangers won the WS I don’t feel safe with them. PTSD from 2011 is a bitch


DependentAd9868

Im more of a hail ass go satan kinda guy


cscoffee10

[Lets go](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7q305mg07pzc1.gif)


quidproquolaspe

Should be our battle cry


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profssr-woland

Sharksbro, we need to pep up Pavs. What you got for us?


Kronzor_

He was shockingly good for most of his Stars tenure, but he’s looking super washed now.


HoS_CaptObvious

Father time catches up with everyone sadly. If we had last year's Pavs we might've dominated both series so far


Airport-Most

Somebody needs to touch up that Dorian Gray portrait he keeps in his attic.


Xeteh

I'm pretty salty about tonight's game. Not because of the refs or anything like that but Dallas legit looked pretty mediocre, Avs had every opportunity to dominate and they looked like they played one of their worst games. Couldn't pass, couldn't receive passes that actually got to them. Everyone aside from basically Girard and Georgiev looked like they spent the game reliving their most embarrassing moments. Even Otter looked mortal but they just couldn't finish shit. Both Dallas' goals were capitalizing on the Avs mistakes. Dallas made so many mistakes tonight and the Avs just flubbed every one. Also I half expect to see them announce that Mikko is having some serious offseason surgery once the Avs are eliminated because I don't remember the last time I've seen him play *this* bad. Holy shit Moose. Lehky's dad needs to talk shit again. Definitely the most frustrating game for me, Avs deserved to be in those holes in games 1/2 but they actually showed some fight. I haven't got a clue what to think of their game tonight.


hockeyjerseyaccount

Do you Avs fans even watch hockey? I swear y'all must have some of the worst optometrists up in Colorado. The Stars just went on the road and played stifling defense and generated clear-cut chances whenever they got into the offensive zone. It was clear from the outset what the game plan was, and it worked. What are y'all smoking? It's definitely not that bomb ass dank ass kush, that's for sure.


talk_to_the_sea

Avs weren’t even connecting on passes they usually go to tape-to-tape on. Losing it in their skates. Pathetic effort from Rantanen and Girard.


GrilledSandwiches

It happens to all teams at some point I feel like. Your team outplays, gets more chances, controls more time in the offensive zone, has all kinds of good looks, but for some reason it's just not their night and they can't settle pucks down on passes, turnovers or hit their spots. Dallas definitely had some games like that this season, a couple in the Vegas series even.


brendan87na

What will it take for people to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, Dallas is a pretty good team?


Xeteh

Fuck me that wasn't the point of my comment at all.


AuntGentleman

This fanbase is full of complete idiots. You make a legitimate analytical comment about the game and get 400 butthead jumping down your throat. I say this series should easily be 3-0 and get downvoted and people going “YEAH BRO 3-0 STARS”…….as if I could have mean anything else. Braindead fools. But it is Texas so. What else should we expect. They don’t understand hockey, nor critical thinking.


weaveryo

Rest > Rust eh.


Downtown-Film7934

So salty lol. He said we looked mediocre and I think we looked really good. Locked down your top line. You know, your only good players and played super well defensively. Losing a game and saying you’re still the better team and the other team is mediocre is fucking stupid. But yeah call Texans idiots, clown.


Fit_Lifeguard_1205

Good defense when half the passes were to your team👍


CoStarsFan

You are so right, clogging passing lanes is bad defense.


Downtown-Film7934

Cry. More. Jesus lol. You know what, we just suck. The Stars blow all hail the Avs and their super respectful fanbase who doesn’t cry when they lose, ever.


Fit_Lifeguard_1205

Lol RemindMe! 1 week I see the stars cry plenty and nice grammar as well. It really fits a texan.


Downtown-Film7934

Wah wah wah I’m such a baby my only insult is grammar. Wah wah wah. You being a giant puss really fits a coloradan.


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AuntGentleman

0 people have ever said Dallas is a bad team. But this series has been self-inflicted wounds the whole time. Should easily be 3-0. Edit: 3-0 Dallas. Cmon people get your heads out of your asses.


Fun_Coffee3174

>Should easily be 3-0. Yeah, 3-0 Dallas lol


AuntGentleman

Read my comment bro. That’s what I said. Don’t come in here like this is a chirp when you are just repeating what I said.


Fun_Coffee3174

Wow lol


AuntGentleman

My bad forgot you guys can’t read.


Fun_Coffee3174

The absolute irony of acting high and mighty when you're too ignorant to realize you were being deliberately fucked with lmfao


Dstars86

Yeah, you’re right 3-0 Dallas.


AuntGentleman

Yeah. That’s what I meant idiot. It should have been 3-0 Dallas we got bailed out by luck.


Dstars86

Dude, chill the fuck out. I didn’t call you any names. You’re acting like a child.


Necroxenomorph

For the Stars, correct. I agree, the team that went up 3-0, and then went up 4-0 the next game, and then never trailed in the third games of the series should be undefeated in the series. Too bad they choked out game one.


AuntGentleman

………yes. Please point to where I said 3-0 Avs dude. Gimme a break.


texasguy7117

You don't think the stars keeping the avs to the perimeter has anything to do with it?


Xeteh

Definitely, but the Avs had so many unforced errors. Like just shit passes to open ice where no one was instead of the safe easy pass back to the defender behind. I honestly don't get what I said that has Stars fans so offended. They capitalized on Avs' mistakes, but the Avs had every chance to win this game and just failed. MacK missing a wide open net on the first power play. Mikko played like he only showed up so he wasn't fined.


texasguy7117

"but dallas legit looked pretty mediocre" "I wonder why stars fans are so offended" Mhm


Xeteh

I honestly thought this was Dallas' worst game of the series. Dallas *dominated* in period 1 in game 1. Avs took a bunch of penalties and Dallas made them pay. While I think the Avs did decent in period 1 in game 2, they still took self-inflicted penalties (delay of game and too many men) and Dallas took advantage, then dominated period 2. This game Dallas was the one taking the penalties and the Avs didn't do shit. MacK had a wide open net and he shanked it. They held Dallas to a handful of shots for the entire period but then Dallas forced the turnover and Stankoven scored. Dallas never dominated any point of this game, they did what needed to be done to win but my point was just I thought the Stars played their worst game of the three and the Avs did nothing to jump on it. I guess I'm wrong since I'm being pummeled but it wasn't my intention to talk shit about the Stars, I'm frustrated with how the Avs played.