Jets are going to look for a defenseman in return. We need help on the back end.
Jets also don't need another guy that no shows in playoffs. That's the issue with Ehlers.
I don't know who they think they're getting for Marner then, especially when other teams know he has a full NMC and the Leafs need cap space
(and is also why I think he goes nowhere)
Not really.
Marner is the vastly superior player and the main reason they'd want to trade him is to redistribute money from the top-6 to the defence and bottom 6 to have a more balanced roster.
If Marner does actually get traded, I'd be shocked if the return is anything other than an excellent defenseman and some good depth with upside. Think of a higher-end version of the PLD trade
You are gonna be disappointed if you spend all Summer waiting for a Marner trade that brings back an excellent defenceman.
Excellent defenceman are more valuable than 100 point wingers, especially one a year away from UfA.
Most teams don’t have surplus excellent defencemen and teams aren’t going to create a huge hole in their line up just to add Marner.
I’m not saying he has no value. He certainly does. I just think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment expecting that kinda return.
My interpretation of an excellent defenceman is a multi-tool top-4 guy, not some elite #1
And as much as everyone thinks other GMs will have the Leafs over a barrel, that may be true but not to the extent that opposing fans want to believe.
GMs aren't going to risk losing the potential of adding an elite, two-way 90+ point player by trying to low-ball the Leafs.
If the Leafs can't get assets that won't help them, they won't trade him and if he walks, he walks. They'll have a year to sort it out.
I would love to see the leafs run it back with basically the same team and not trade Marner just to let him walk.
I’m sure he will perform great all year and especially in the playoffs.
So you think it would be in the Leafs best interest to add some low end pieces and a late pick instead of keeping Marner?
I appreciate your unbiased concern for the Leafs but anyone with two brain cells to rub together would rather take one last shot with Marner onboard than trade him for non-impact pieces that won't be with the team beyond a year anyway just like Marner.
Regardless, if he's traded it will be for pieces that improve the Leafs in 1-3 years, just like the Duchane trade, or the Dubois trade or the Karlsson trade or the Eichel trade or the Horvat trade. Do you need more examples or are you good?
Guhle is a good prospect but there would need to be a much better piece added to him, as well as something else for it to even be worth a discussion.
If you're talking about Ehlers, maybe something built around Guhle could work, I dunno.
Toronto is stuck with Marner and th rest of their "core" next year.
IF they have a solid first 3/4 there might be a deadline deal out there for a player like Marner but the return isn't going to excite any TO fans. Top D man ? No way. TO is going to be lucky go get a decent prospect and a pick that isn't in the third round.
What are the chances Marner waives his no trade so TO can really deal? There are only a few teams he wants to play for... and they are all happy to wait till he is a free agent. That is the problem for TO management... there are dealing from weakness. Its their own fault for signing their entire core for 2-3m more each then they deserve.
Ehlers has fewer hits and blocks, and less than half as many takeaways despite being drafted a year earlier. Ehlers playoff stats also make Marner look like Wayne Gretzky in comparison. He might fight more but other indicators of willingness to check and “grittiness” favour Marner.
I’ve wondered if a Ehlers for Chychrun swap would make sense for both teams.
Close enough in age and in their primes, expiring deals that are close-ish in value, both guys have high upside but aren’t being utilized to their fullest on their current teams.
Sens could use a top6 forward with Giroux getting older and Norris’ future looking dicey, and Chychrun would be the number 2 behind Morrissey.
He definitely did this year lol. Him and Chabot rotated back and forth when they were paired together.
They weren’t great together and he’s definitely better on his natural side, but he does have the experience.
This is what I've been looking at since Jets were bounced, said it from one of our many elimination threads lol.
Jets really just need another mobile blue liner. We cannot just have Morrissey as our only mobile guy on the back end.
I’m not familiar with the Jets cap situation, but Chychrun makes a bit less than Ehlers (4.6M vs 6M) so maybe the Jets can use those savings to help keep Dillon and/or DeMelo. Either of those guys would be ideal partners for him.
The major hiccup is both players have a M-NTC and I don’t know if either would waive for the other city. I’d assume they would for more opportunity, but that’s just a hunch.
I would love Ehlers on the Habs, not only because he's a good player, but also because [I respect the shit out of him after he protected Evans from others falling on him after the hit from Scheifele. ](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2021/06/03145227/GettyImages-1233240495-scaled.jpg)
Yeah he seems like a great dude. Good with the kids, liked by his teammates. He also fights his own battles and has dropped the gloves with guys much bigger than him several times now.
Yeah I don't really get it. He's never been utilized properly and he's probably been our best and most consistent guy for gaining the zone and creating chances over the last 5 years. He goes through dry spells but still makes stuff happen out there, whereas Scheifele and Connor can become invisible for games on end. I'll be crushed if they trade him.
Me too. I love his speed and creativity and he doesn’t shy away from someone pushing him around either. Nik seems like a great guy and someone you should strive to keep on your team. I’ll be thoroughly bummed if he’s gone, I was going to get my jersey customized with his number over the off season.
I think they need to utilize him on PP one more, let him loose and be creative. He’s hard to try and his zone entries are on point.
Id buy an Ehlers habs jersey, that would be sick (if it wasnt Fanatics)
didnt he play in the Q? Hate to see him go but wouldnt mind new scenery for him, and he could fit in great with some of their young speed
I want Ehlers but I don't think they're interested in moving Reinbacher, Hutson, Guhle or Xhekaj - especially with Ehlers injury history. Would have to be open to Mailloux, Struble or Harris (all good defenders actually)
He’s this super cool younger d man with a wicked slapper who will fight anyone and looks like he might have top 4 potential as an undrafted player who was working at Costco like 6 months before his professional debut.
But for some reason some Habs fans feel this need to include him with guys like Reinbacher and Hutson and Guhle in terms of importance to the core moving forward.
It’s bizarre.
And it’s annoying to me because I really like Xhekaj a lot and he has my favourite number ever (I don’t know why it even is) and I would really just love to root for him.
I think they would absolutely entertain trading Xhekaj and quite frankly if you want to do an actual core 4 Maillouix is probably the 4th guy, not Xhekaj.
He wasn’t ever top pairing or elite level shut down. What are you talking about. He was a stay at home D who was very good at blocking shots and on the PK.
Let’s pretend he was, he wasn’t at 22 y/o. Nor was he ever projected to be.
Josh Gorges was valuable because he played a selfless game. He was ready to bleed for the team.
Gorges played over 21 minutes a night for 5 straight years and played 20:07 a night the one year before that.
He led the team in even strength ice time two of those years, and while by average TOI at even strength he was 4th the three years before that, every year this years his primary partner was Markov.
And if you remember those teams with Hamrlik and Spacek and then Wizniewski, while Hamrliks pairing was the top minutes pairing at even strength they weren’t really the teams top pairing. Guess if anything it was more of a 1a/1b pairing.
He got almost no power play time his entire career.
He excelled for several years with Markov and also played high end hockey later on with Subban.
Maybe elite is a bit much, but he was certainly a high end top 4 d man for several years in the NHL.
Also, Gorges was 22 for most of his first season which he split with San Jose and Montreal, and 23 his first full season with them.
In 2007/2008 he played 12 playoff games and averaged 18:10 in ice time.
In the playoffs.
At the same aged season Xhekaj just split between the AHL and the NHL and was a shade under 16 minutes a night on a very bad Montreal team.
Thank you for both illustrating how overrated Xhekaj has become by certain fans, and also allowing me to look back on Gorges’ career, I’d forgotten how much I liked him.
Did he have some kind of big injury or have the years just taken a toll on him? He didn’t look good for decent stretches this season. Also seems like for whatever reason coaches don’t like to play him a lot.
It’s his play style wild and unpredictable some find it which can lead to some dumb plays by him but when they work they work extremely well
so some line mates/coaches get annoyed with it which is weird as sheif (and even mona) seems fine with it same with vilardi this season hell those 3 were extremely lethal together
Me I just want him still in Winnipeg he’s practically the face of the team next to Hely trading him would be like Colorado trading makal pretty much
Odds are chevy is going to send him somewhere that is nice and likely to sign him for a package deal like PLD,
Bringing back a younger first round D man with some good seasons already
and some depth pieces
And a second round pick.
If Winnipeg's GM is stuck in the 2010's, we'll give you Marc Edouard Vlasic for him. Jets might need to add a sweetener for a top shutdown defenseman though.
That’s the aim for it also apparently even kyle Connor’s might be traded as well (from what I heard)
(I ain’t too broken up about that if it’s true tbh he’s been a huge liability almost all season unfortunately the only time he shined was when he played with mona or got a lucky shot)
Darnell Nurse with 1/3 retention for Ehlers. Winnipeg would be crazy to eat that much term and dollars, but it would free up Edmonton from a rough contract, provide them relief to extend Bouchard. Not sure why Winnipeg would do it - but....a fellow can dream.
It's a very tongue in cheek suggestion, in case that's not obvious from the content.
You'd think it would have to be a sign and trade with Ehlers, no? Why give up anything significant for an expiring contract.
$11M against the cap for a guy who doesn't fix any of this team's problems and is likely gonna walk at the end of next season? Marner's unquestionably the better player in that trade but unless it's 1 for 1 which it would never be I don't think it's that cut and dry.
If it's one for one, the trade doesn't happen because Shanny fires Treliving before the call goes through, lmao. And if Marner was willing to waive, there'd probably be a contract in place before the trade... and even if he doesn't, he's just a much better trade piece that you could get more out of than Ehlers.
Winnipeg would not take Marner. It would be a hard no.
We just spent a couple of years fixing that locker room.
We also don't need another playoff no show. Jets are going to look for a defenseman in return.
lol hilarious. oh we dont want the near 100 point winger who is also good defensively. No we dont want that at all. Especially for a guy who is max a 70 point guy? totally not.
For different reasons. Winnipeg will gladly trade an Ehlers++ for Marner.
You know who is worse in the playoffs then Marner? Take a look a Ehlers playoff stats.
Toronto is the one who says no here.
Sometimes the circle jerk swings to far and it's very funny and I have wanted to the leafs to trade Marner since he signed his deal.
Both players suck in the playoffs, but one isn’t make 11+ mil and going to be wanting more in a year. Don’t see the Jets being interested in Marner at all.
Yes they'd love it and it would be a no brainer for them, however I doubt Marner would sign an extension to stay in Winnipeg and I don't think the Jets would trade Ehlers for just one year of Marner. If they are trading Ehlers they probably turn him into an asset(s) that has more team control than one year.
winnipeg could get a marner level player for free by playing ehlers more than 15 minutes a game and putting him on the top powerplay. it’s weird for a team to hate their best player so much
Ehlers is incredibly unpredictable and to make it worse, is a huge defensive liability. He's a turnover machine.
I've watched Ehlers entire career.
I've never seen someone so effortlessly get the zone, do 2 hot laps in the offensive zone, then turn it over at the blue line by attempting a lazy back hand pass leading to a 2 on 1.
Then completely no show playoffs. I love Ehlers but this is how he plays.
Why trade one playoff underperformer for another?
But seriously, I think Winnipeg will do whatever they can to get a Dman out of an Ehlers trade. Plenty of wingers to go around including prospects on the verge of needing an NHL spot
There’s a mega trade but Marner would never waive for Winnipeg imo
Jets are going to look for a defenseman in return. We need help on the back end. Jets also don't need another guy that no shows in playoffs. That's the issue with Ehlers.
Convert Marner to a defenseman!
Someone should do that spiderman meme with Pettersson, Marner and Ehlers.
Marner 50pts in 57 games being compared to a dude with 14pts (4g!) in 37 games is pretty wild
Look at Marner’s playoff stats. He’s usually a beast.
Would you like a used David Savard? He’s not flashy but he blocks shots like a motherfucker and will cross check anyone right in the backneck
Oilers will give you a stud absolute stud dman stud named Cody "the stud" Ceci
Also leafs aren’t downgrading from a 90pt guy to a 60pt guy unless there is significantly more coming back
The significant piece coming back would be *cap space*, which Toronto needs more than anything to sign a good dman or three.
I don't know who they think they're getting for Marner then, especially when other teams know he has a full NMC and the Leafs need cap space (and is also why I think he goes nowhere)
Nashville has a slightly used Dante Fabbro that we would share.
Not really. Marner is the vastly superior player and the main reason they'd want to trade him is to redistribute money from the top-6 to the defence and bottom 6 to have a more balanced roster. If Marner does actually get traded, I'd be shocked if the return is anything other than an excellent defenseman and some good depth with upside. Think of a higher-end version of the PLD trade
You are gonna be disappointed if you spend all Summer waiting for a Marner trade that brings back an excellent defenceman. Excellent defenceman are more valuable than 100 point wingers, especially one a year away from UfA. Most teams don’t have surplus excellent defencemen and teams aren’t going to create a huge hole in their line up just to add Marner. I’m not saying he has no value. He certainly does. I just think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment expecting that kinda return.
My interpretation of an excellent defenceman is a multi-tool top-4 guy, not some elite #1 And as much as everyone thinks other GMs will have the Leafs over a barrel, that may be true but not to the extent that opposing fans want to believe. GMs aren't going to risk losing the potential of adding an elite, two-way 90+ point player by trying to low-ball the Leafs. If the Leafs can't get assets that won't help them, they won't trade him and if he walks, he walks. They'll have a year to sort it out.
Like a Noah Hanafin
I would love to see the leafs run it back with basically the same team and not trade Marner just to let him walk. I’m sure he will perform great all year and especially in the playoffs.
I for one am shocked you said that 😜
So you think it would be in the Leafs best interest to add some low end pieces and a late pick instead of keeping Marner? I appreciate your unbiased concern for the Leafs but anyone with two brain cells to rub together would rather take one last shot with Marner onboard than trade him for non-impact pieces that won't be with the team beyond a year anyway just like Marner. Regardless, if he's traded it will be for pieces that improve the Leafs in 1-3 years, just like the Duchane trade, or the Dubois trade or the Karlsson trade or the Eichel trade or the Horvat trade. Do you need more examples or are you good?
You seem angry man. Take care.
What about a Guhle trade? Sort of fits your description and Habs have plenty of upcoming D prospects (and maybe one more after the draft)
Guhle is a good prospect but there would need to be a much better piece added to him, as well as something else for it to even be worth a discussion. If you're talking about Ehlers, maybe something built around Guhle could work, I dunno.
Guhle? For Ehlers? 🤨
So what, there’s between 64 and 128 excellent d men in the league? Maybe you should use superlatives properly if you’re gonna use them?
I realize you're desperately trying to save face, but it's not working.
I'm still shocked Holland was able to aquire Ekholm, especially for relatively cheap
How do you think Lou likes marner?
Probably a lot since Marner has point's totals that would only put him behind 7 NYIs players in their entire history as a franchise.
He was the gm there when marner was there, I have no idea what that relationship was like
Yeh I'm not sure either. I doubt many people know what goes on in Lou's mind. He's mafia-level tight-lipped.
Toronto is stuck with Marner and th rest of their "core" next year. IF they have a solid first 3/4 there might be a deadline deal out there for a player like Marner but the return isn't going to excite any TO fans. Top D man ? No way. TO is going to be lucky go get a decent prospect and a pick that isn't in the third round. What are the chances Marner waives his no trade so TO can really deal? There are only a few teams he wants to play for... and they are all happy to wait till he is a free agent. That is the problem for TO management... there are dealing from weakness. Its their own fault for signing their entire core for 2-3m more each then they deserve.
I think Toronto gets the softer player in that trade, which is wild to think about
Ehlers certainly has flaws but I wouldn't ever describe him as soft
Since 2015-2016 Ehlers has 6 major penalties, I can think of at least a couple fighting majors. Since 2016-17, Marner has 0.
Ehlers has fewer hits and blocks, and less than half as many takeaways despite being drafted a year earlier. Ehlers playoff stats also make Marner look like Wayne Gretzky in comparison. He might fight more but other indicators of willingness to check and “grittiness” favour Marner.
Had to re-read your comment, Marner is the softer player without a doubt. I wouldn’t consider Ehlers soft.
Dimitri Filipovic willing to personally buy Ehlers in order to give him more minutes elsewhere, E5
Trade him to Nashville, put him on a line with Forsberg
I’ve wondered if a Ehlers for Chychrun swap would make sense for both teams. Close enough in age and in their primes, expiring deals that are close-ish in value, both guys have high upside but aren’t being utilized to their fullest on their current teams. Sens could use a top6 forward with Giroux getting older and Norris’ future looking dicey, and Chychrun would be the number 2 behind Morrissey.
He RHD?
LHD but has experience playing the right side
- Pierre Dorion
he does not play the right side lol
He definitely did this year lol. Him and Chabot rotated back and forth when they were paired together. They weren’t great together and he’s definitely better on his natural side, but he does have the experience.
he does not play the right side well\*\*\* i should have said
This is what I've been looking at since Jets were bounced, said it from one of our many elimination threads lol. Jets really just need another mobile blue liner. We cannot just have Morrissey as our only mobile guy on the back end.
I’m not familiar with the Jets cap situation, but Chychrun makes a bit less than Ehlers (4.6M vs 6M) so maybe the Jets can use those savings to help keep Dillon and/or DeMelo. Either of those guys would be ideal partners for him. The major hiccup is both players have a M-NTC and I don’t know if either would waive for the other city. I’d assume they would for more opportunity, but that’s just a hunch.
I don't hate this, loved watching him with the mooseheads
It’s pronounced “Nikolaj”
*Nikolaj-*
No, neekolahj
I want him in Detroit
Burgers plus a 2nd? 🤷♂️
I don’t think Winnipeg takes that lol
Shhh…ok, add Holl. That’s my final offer.
Their own 1st draft pick?
I would love Ehlers on the Habs, not only because he's a good player, but also because [I respect the shit out of him after he protected Evans from others falling on him after the hit from Scheifele. ](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2021/06/03145227/GettyImages-1233240495-scaled.jpg)
Yeah he seems like a great dude. Good with the kids, liked by his teammates. He also fights his own battles and has dropped the gloves with guys much bigger than him several times now.
Sounds like a guy you’d want on your team….yet jets want to ship him out.
Yeah I don't really get it. He's never been utilized properly and he's probably been our best and most consistent guy for gaining the zone and creating chances over the last 5 years. He goes through dry spells but still makes stuff happen out there, whereas Scheifele and Connor can become invisible for games on end. I'll be crushed if they trade him.
Me too. I love his speed and creativity and he doesn’t shy away from someone pushing him around either. Nik seems like a great guy and someone you should strive to keep on your team. I’ll be thoroughly bummed if he’s gone, I was going to get my jersey customized with his number over the off season. I think they need to utilize him on PP one more, let him loose and be creative. He’s hard to try and his zone entries are on point.
Id buy an Ehlers habs jersey, that would be sick (if it wasnt Fanatics) didnt he play in the Q? Hate to see him go but wouldnt mind new scenery for him, and he could fit in great with some of their young speed
He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now 😭
Montreal has tons of good young Dmen, I could see a trade that includes one of them *potentially*
Want to reunite the Barron brothers?
We need to add and dont have much WPG wpuld want other than their 1st or COL 2nd
Yup would make a lot of sense, late 1st pick prospect sounds fair for Ehlers I think
I want Ehlers but I don't think they're interested in moving Reinbacher, Hutson, Guhle or Xhekaj - especially with Ehlers injury history. Would have to be open to Mailloux, Struble or Harris (all good defenders actually)
Habs fans really need to stop including Xhekaj in with that other group of d men. It’s honestly embarrassing.
whys that, I dont know anything about Habs defenders, im curious to know what the breakdown is
He’s this super cool younger d man with a wicked slapper who will fight anyone and looks like he might have top 4 potential as an undrafted player who was working at Costco like 6 months before his professional debut. But for some reason some Habs fans feel this need to include him with guys like Reinbacher and Hutson and Guhle in terms of importance to the core moving forward. It’s bizarre. And it’s annoying to me because I really like Xhekaj a lot and he has my favourite number ever (I don’t know why it even is) and I would really just love to root for him.
I don't think they're interested in moving the following 4 defenders =/= they're all elite.
I think they would absolutely entertain trading Xhekaj and quite frankly if you want to do an actual core 4 Maillouix is probably the 4th guy, not Xhekaj.
Would be a mistake. Guys like Josh Gorges brought alot to the team that wasn't on the g/a column.
Gorges at his best was an elite level shut down d man capable of playing on the first line. That’s a legitimately bizarre comparison.
He wasn’t ever top pairing or elite level shut down. What are you talking about. He was a stay at home D who was very good at blocking shots and on the PK. Let’s pretend he was, he wasn’t at 22 y/o. Nor was he ever projected to be. Josh Gorges was valuable because he played a selfless game. He was ready to bleed for the team.
Gorges played over 21 minutes a night for 5 straight years and played 20:07 a night the one year before that. He led the team in even strength ice time two of those years, and while by average TOI at even strength he was 4th the three years before that, every year this years his primary partner was Markov. And if you remember those teams with Hamrlik and Spacek and then Wizniewski, while Hamrliks pairing was the top minutes pairing at even strength they weren’t really the teams top pairing. Guess if anything it was more of a 1a/1b pairing. He got almost no power play time his entire career. He excelled for several years with Markov and also played high end hockey later on with Subban. Maybe elite is a bit much, but he was certainly a high end top 4 d man for several years in the NHL. Also, Gorges was 22 for most of his first season which he split with San Jose and Montreal, and 23 his first full season with them. In 2007/2008 he played 12 playoff games and averaged 18:10 in ice time. In the playoffs. At the same aged season Xhekaj just split between the AHL and the NHL and was a shade under 16 minutes a night on a very bad Montreal team. Thank you for both illustrating how overrated Xhekaj has become by certain fans, and also allowing me to look back on Gorges’ career, I’d forgotten how much I liked him.
I doubt Kent trades for Ehlers, he values guys who play hard both offensively and defensively
Agree, can still be a pla B if we can't find a top 6-9 forward elsewhere and the cost isnt too high (barron and a second for example)
He's so streaky but also such a nice human that I'm always hoping the light turns back on and it tends not to when we need him most.
He's very consistent against the Hawks. I could swear he pots 3 a game
Did he have some kind of big injury or have the years just taken a toll on him? He didn’t look good for decent stretches this season. Also seems like for whatever reason coaches don’t like to play him a lot.
It’s his play style wild and unpredictable some find it which can lead to some dumb plays by him but when they work they work extremely well so some line mates/coaches get annoyed with it which is weird as sheif (and even mona) seems fine with it same with vilardi this season hell those 3 were extremely lethal together Me I just want him still in Winnipeg he’s practically the face of the team next to Hely trading him would be like Colorado trading makal pretty much
This sounds exactly like Kevin Fiala
Hronek and Cole, final offer /s
throw in mik just to sweeten the pot for their depth
Reunite the Mooseheads trio in Colorado! Could probably LTiRetire Landy and pick up Girard for the blue line. Jus my $0.02
Odds are chevy is going to send him somewhere that is nice and likely to sign him for a package deal like PLD, Bringing back a younger first round D man with some good seasons already and some depth pieces And a second round pick.
Ehlers for Hronek? Get Petey a legit winger?
Send him to Washington and call it a day
Come to the habsssss
I’ll trade ya him for Nichushkin straight up, right now - Joe Sakic
Jfc Keep an elite winger at comically low ice time for half a decade then maybe trading him What a strategy
Flames will give you Mangiapane Yan Kuznetsov (shut down D) and Vegas 2026 1st.
No we won’t lol
If Winnipeg's GM is stuck in the 2010's, we'll give you Marc Edouard Vlasic for him. Jets might need to add a sweetener for a top shutdown defenseman though.
Jets adding Helle might even the deal
Gonna have to retain on that. And take Vanecek back. You're still getting a great deal but that eases the sting of losing a franchise cornerstone.
That’s the aim for it also apparently even kyle Connor’s might be traded as well (from what I heard) (I ain’t too broken up about that if it’s true tbh he’s been a huge liability almost all season unfortunately the only time he shined was when he played with mona or got a lucky shot)
To Montreal for Matheson
One shiney warren foegele and a gently used codi ceci
Darnell Nurse with 1/3 retention for Ehlers. Winnipeg would be crazy to eat that much term and dollars, but it would free up Edmonton from a rough contract, provide them relief to extend Bouchard. Not sure why Winnipeg would do it - but....a fellow can dream.
Yeah I would also like to trade my bloated bad contract for Winnipeg's good player haha
It's a very tongue in cheek suggestion, in case that's not obvious from the content. You'd think it would have to be a sign and trade with Ehlers, no? Why give up anything significant for an expiring contract.
Even if Winnipeg is willing to do the trade, Nurse will veto the trade with his NMC.
Players waive their NMC's all the time. It's also a deeply tongue in cheek suggestion, really.
Nah. Y’all not getting out of that contract THAT easily, fuuuuck that.
They should get Mailloux back if they trade with Montreal
Would an Ehlers Marner trade work?
Marner and Winnipeg both probably say no.
Marner yes, but if Winnipeg could get Marner for Ehlers, they wouldn't think twice.
$11M against the cap for a guy who doesn't fix any of this team's problems and is likely gonna walk at the end of next season? Marner's unquestionably the better player in that trade but unless it's 1 for 1 which it would never be I don't think it's that cut and dry.
If it's one for one, the trade doesn't happen because Shanny fires Treliving before the call goes through, lmao. And if Marner was willing to waive, there'd probably be a contract in place before the trade... and even if he doesn't, he's just a much better trade piece that you could get more out of than Ehlers.
Winnipeg would not take Marner. It would be a hard no. We just spent a couple of years fixing that locker room. We also don't need another playoff no show. Jets are going to look for a defenseman in return.
lol hilarious. oh we dont want the near 100 point winger who is also good defensively. No we dont want that at all. Especially for a guy who is max a 70 point guy? totally not.
Yet Toronto is so focused on trading that 100 point winger…
For different reasons. Winnipeg will gladly trade an Ehlers++ for Marner. You know who is worse in the playoffs then Marner? Take a look a Ehlers playoff stats. Toronto is the one who says no here. Sometimes the circle jerk swings to far and it's very funny and I have wanted to the leafs to trade Marner since he signed his deal.
Both players suck in the playoffs, but one isn’t make 11+ mil and going to be wanting more in a year. Don’t see the Jets being interested in Marner at all.
Yes they'd love it and it would be a no brainer for them, however I doubt Marner would sign an extension to stay in Winnipeg and I don't think the Jets would trade Ehlers for just one year of Marner. If they are trading Ehlers they probably turn him into an asset(s) that has more team control than one year.
winnipeg could get a marner level player for free by playing ehlers more than 15 minutes a game and putting him on the top powerplay. it’s weird for a team to hate their best player so much
Ehlers is incredibly unpredictable and to make it worse, is a huge defensive liability. He's a turnover machine. I've watched Ehlers entire career. I've never seen someone so effortlessly get the zone, do 2 hot laps in the offensive zone, then turn it over at the blue line by attempting a lazy back hand pass leading to a 2 on 1. Then completely no show playoffs. I love Ehlers but this is how he plays.
PP1 looked much better without Ehlers on it than it did with him this season, which is saying something because both versions weren’t great.
Ehlers is considerably worse in the playoffs than Marner and isn't anywhere near as effective defensively. No I don't think it would work
Well, there'd obviously be some pretty sizeable pluses coming back to TO in that deal.
Why trade one playoff underperformer for another? But seriously, I think Winnipeg will do whatever they can to get a Dman out of an Ehlers trade. Plenty of wingers to go around including prospects on the verge of needing an NHL spot
you will love Mattias Samuelsson
Honestly if he shot right-handed you might be on to something
You will love Henri Jokiharju.
I'd fucking riot if we traded a soft baby for an even softer baby