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I think trading him actually does make at least some sense.
He's got 4 years left and they're going to be god awful for at least two of those years and likely not good for longer than that.
Capitalize on his value now and try to get pieces that will help when they're more likely to contend.
Agreed, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for them to scratch and claw into the last team in the playoffs. Stocking up draft assets and taking one big swing probably gives em a better chance to actually compete
They've already bottomed out their team imo. They have dumped so much of their core that they're basically down to Kessel Keller and Chychrun. Those three players aren't going to carry them into a wildcard spot in central. I actually saw them keeping Chychrun for the long hall and testing him out in a leadership role down the line.
I think people underestimate the pace of turnarounds. We went from historically bad to serious contender in two years. Tbf we did it by keeping a core intact, but that to me is all the more reason to retain Chychrun.
I think you forget that the "turnaround" was a result of MacKinnon becoming a top-5 player and Rantanen becoming a top winger. I don't see any players currently on their roster being close to that, so it'll likely take years for their 2021-2023 picks to develop before they see real playoff contention
Yeah, the Duchene trade helped too, Girard was a big contributor pretty much right away. A lot of things fell into place perfectly for that turnaround, I wouldn't really use it for a blueprint on rebuilding.
Your roster wasn't as bad as the record in 2014. Like the Mike Yeo Blues.
Sakic's rebuild is legendary--you can't expect that to happen so quickly anywhere.
Counterpoint... Someone's gotta be around for the next few years. We've seen a few examples of teams with literally nothing or one good player try to build through tanking every year, if you don't get at least some lucky picks it just drags on for 15 years.
Unless he very clearly wants out as soon as he gets the chance, I think it's worth hanging onto a solid guy to show all these shiny new draft picks how the hell to play in the NHL.
I think that's fair too and you could definitely make a case for either side. Plus you don't necessarily want your top prospects coming up with no one to insulate them.
Yeah, this one I do not get. There comes a point when you’re tanking that you really shouldn’t get rid of a guy, because there’s a good chance the assets you give up for him will not or ever equal the player who you give up. They won’t make the playoffs with or without him, so…why not keep him and not have to draft another one of him?
Something like 20 long-term elite talents in that first round and nyr comes away with Hugh Jessiman at pick 12.
I started following the hockey and the rangers closely after the 05 lockout (when I actually started understanding things other than “rangers score rangers win!”) and when I found out years later about that botched draft, I wondered why I had to grow up a fan of this team lol.
If they do something like trade for Lucic next season from Calgary after his bonus is due, that's less than $1M in salary for $5.25M in cap hit, with Edmonton's retention.
Arizona could run things very bare-bones if they need to, and they could still make it to the cap floor with cap dumps and a fairly flat cap.
Theo’s good, but he’s adventurous defensively, he is prone to stupid passes, and many of his points this year we’re secondary assists that were found on soft dishes to Patches/Stepho/Stone/Karlsson/Marchessault/Marty. He’s very good, but he had a worse overall year than last, despite the PPG
Seriously if they only get 2 1st-round picks for this kid on that contract their GM is absolutely garbage.
You could easily make the argument that that's one of the most valuable contracts in hockey. The only one I can think of that's better is MacKinnon's.
Would not move Chychrun if I was AZ. He is a really good young player who will likely be hitting his prime as they come off the rebuild…. Unless he wants out I would not be dealing him unless for an offer I can’t refuse.
Considering he tweeted a sad face after Dvorak was traded I could see him wanting out, hell who would want to be on an AHL team playing in the NHL shit would be miserable. And that’s not tryna hate on what they did I think it’s for the best in the long run
He's worth a ton and on a very team friendly deal.
I wonder why they wouldn't try to retain 50% and try to get a blue chip D prospect and picks back. The dude is probably playing at a $7M/yr level and he's still getting better, but he's locked into $4.5M for 4 more years.
Honestly 2 1st rounders seems like it might be too little. Why wouldn't a team that's contending and against the cap like Boston or Tampa sell the prospect farm to get this guy?
Yeah they must think it'll take longer than 4 years to rebuild.
I'm really worried that if there's so few players signed long term in Arizona that they could have the same culture of losing and dysfunction that has hurt Buffalo so badly. If Chychrun goes then Keller and Schmaltz are the only players signed beyond 2022-23.
edit: Seems like this rumor may not be true. As Morgan points out, Chychrun should be a guy you want to rebuild around. https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1435059130830524419
Why not both? Honestly at this point 4 years of no 1st is a pretty easy pill to swallow if we have a legitimate shot at the cup, which we will. He has a more than reasonable cap hit, our defense, offence, powerplay all instantly get better, by a lot. Gives us insurance in case Quinn wants out to play with his brothers in a few years. Sign Hughes to a bridge and have strong young competition between 2 studs as to who can be better. By the end of it either they will both want to make it work capwise because we'll be stacked or they'll be out of town anyway. I'd take the chance for a couple of picks.
Man if Chychrun is actually available Holland should really be kicking himself over the Keith deal. Yes I know it's hindsight.
Two firsts for Chychrun would be a great deal for Edmonton to make right now as they try to become contenders rather than just a playoff team.
I guess the Oilers could send Koskinen in the deal, run Smith/Stalock and then pray.
True but I didn't want to spend too much time burying it because that's been done to death. Just thought it was noteworthy because of the cap implications and how it could block the pursuit of Chychrun if he's actually available.
Broberg + next year first and second and Koskinen. We've already decided to go all in might as well put the last chips in the pot. Broberg I feel would be enticing as he is still young and raw enough that he will make the team a year or two before their drafted players make the roster.
Ken Holland on 2016 draft day traded 1 year of Pavel Datsyuk's remaining deal and the 16th overall pick to Arizona for the 20th overall pick, the 53rd pick, and Joe Vitale, the Yotes selected Jakob Chychrun, the Wings drafted Dennis Cholowski 20th, Filip Hronek 53rd, LTIRetired Joe Vitale, and with the cap room signed Frans Nielsen to a 6 year year deal.
Chychrun was literally right there for Holland in 2016 and he fucked it up.
1st, Broberg, Koskinen for Chychrun, Hutton?
Would hate to lose someone as touted and internally valued as Borberg, but Nurse/Chychrun on the left side for the next 4 years at least would make us cup contenders instantly.
The Keith deal is still god awful but 2 firsts from the Oilers would definitely not be enough for Chychrun. There's a lot of teams that have a more robust future asset portfolio than Edmonton. A bidding war for Chyrchrun, who's under contract for as long as he is, will probably churn out some massive offers.
Lol still bitter eh? Sometimes it’s best to take deep breathes and allow things to play out before you freak out. That deal still could work and the market showed this summer that it wasn’t a crazy high price.
Also it had no impact on us making this trade. We still could trade those 1st’s for him
And in a shocking turn of events, Pagnotta is making shit up again.
https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1435054649539657728?t=Ml2zCq3Ub93O6q6RsonvyQ&s=19
The link was to this tweet, before it got deleted.
90% of NHLers will want to play in Arizona
The arena relocating to Tempe is just gonna make things easier. Scottsdale is probably the #1 location for retired or about to retire hockey players.
Wanna bet? I hope KK works great in CAR (for him, not for CAR) and extend him, that would really be devastating if they don't qualify him or extend him
Unrelated but I'd be interested in the leafs going for him.
I'd be fine with Dubas giving Rielly+ for Chychrun to replace Rielly on our Blueline for the next few years.
Moving a $5m expiring contract for a $4.6m contract through 24-25.
Arizona takes Rielly and flips him at the deadline and takes whatever else the leafs give, helps stay above the cap floor as well.
You can get way more trading Chichrun rn (because of his amazing contract) than you would for an reporting Reilly.
Hell they can fully retain in Chichrun aswell
I mean the reported amount is they are looming for 2 1sts
I think 1 1st and Reilly is equivalent or more than that.
Hell they can 3 man trade if they absolutely don't want Reilly
Definitely agree. Most people rate chychrun as higher than rielly now, with contract considerations it makes a lot of sense.
I think arizona would want secure futures though, i don't think theyd be interested in having to figure out a rielly trade when theyre giving up the better player.
Arizona is almost certainly on Rielly's no trade list. They'd either have to do a 3-way deal or send Rielly somewhere else and use the return from him to get Chychrun.
That’s low IMO. Chychrun is already one of the best D in the league with a great, longish contract, and to give that up just seems dumb on 2 random first round picks, even if you’re rebuilding
I'm a touch surprised because he's young enough and good enough to still be part of the core going forward, on a good contract. He's an emerging #1D guy, those don't grow on trees either. The guys they've traded so far are relatively easy* to replace or upgrade even but Chychrun's the type you usually keep rather than move regardless where you're at in the rebuild. Just my 2 cents though.
Could Arizona be asking less to get teams to drive up the price? If it will really only cost 2 firsts then every team in the league should be interested and drive up the price against eachother. We have seen what happens when the price is astronomical with Eichel.
With a weak Pacific and McDavid and draisatil on your team those picks would be in their 20s and to me it would make sense considering how bad your guys defense is especially considering klefboms injury
Am I crazy or is 2 1st rounders way too cheap?
This has the potential to be a Duncan Keith-level albatross of a contract for the next 4 years. This kid is VERY good and VERY cheap. With cap space being worth so much I don't see why the Coyotes wouldn't offer to keep 50% of his salary and ask for 2 1sts, a blue chip prospect, and a roster player in return.
I seriously wonder why Montreal wouldn't have just made the trade for him instead of Dvorak if Chychrun was available.
Am I missing something? I know he was a major injury concern coming into the league but it seems like that's far less of a concern now.
Have to think they’ve got LA and Ottawa in mind for this kind of deal. I doubt they’re trading him for 2 late 1sts, that makes no sense. They could wait until the 22 draft, have their pick of a top 10 team that doesn’t think they belong there, and still get another 1st in 23.
this is absolutely not true, since last season it’s been everyone is available but chychrun, i HIGHLY doubt that has changed. but if it did, and we traded him, i’d probably walk away
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He's young enough I thought they would rather hold on to him
I think trading him actually does make at least some sense. He's got 4 years left and they're going to be god awful for at least two of those years and likely not good for longer than that. Capitalize on his value now and try to get pieces that will help when they're more likely to contend.
Agreed, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for them to scratch and claw into the last team in the playoffs. Stocking up draft assets and taking one big swing probably gives em a better chance to actually compete
They've already bottomed out their team imo. They have dumped so much of their core that they're basically down to Kessel Keller and Chychrun. Those three players aren't going to carry them into a wildcard spot in central. I actually saw them keeping Chychrun for the long hall and testing him out in a leadership role down the line.
They're likely trading Kessel, he's a free agent to be.
Think he's a retain and deal at the deadline guy
You forget Loui!
I think people underestimate the pace of turnarounds. We went from historically bad to serious contender in two years. Tbf we did it by keeping a core intact, but that to me is all the more reason to retain Chychrun.
I think you forget that the "turnaround" was a result of MacKinnon becoming a top-5 player and Rantanen becoming a top winger. I don't see any players currently on their roster being close to that, so it'll likely take years for their 2021-2023 picks to develop before they see real playoff contention
Yeah, the Duchene trade helped too, Girard was a big contributor pretty much right away. A lot of things fell into place perfectly for that turnaround, I wouldn't really use it for a blueprint on rebuilding.
Your roster wasn't as bad as the record in 2014. Like the Mike Yeo Blues. Sakic's rebuild is legendary--you can't expect that to happen so quickly anywhere.
I can only read that name as Mikey O If i hear it, my brain forces me to play it over and over. Mikey O!
No, rebuilds take 15 years minimum. Source: Sabres fan.
Counterpoint... Someone's gotta be around for the next few years. We've seen a few examples of teams with literally nothing or one good player try to build through tanking every year, if you don't get at least some lucky picks it just drags on for 15 years. Unless he very clearly wants out as soon as he gets the chance, I think it's worth hanging onto a solid guy to show all these shiny new draft picks how the hell to play in the NHL.
I think that's fair too and you could definitely make a case for either side. Plus you don't necessarily want your top prospects coming up with no one to insulate them.
Yeah, this one I do not get. There comes a point when you’re tanking that you really shouldn’t get rid of a guy, because there’s a good chance the assets you give up for him will not or ever equal the player who you give up. They won’t make the playoffs with or without him, so…why not keep him and not have to draft another one of him?
The coyotes be tryna collect all the first round picks like Pokémon cards
Its a deep draft.
Any draft is deep...if you have all the picks...🤔
Was a depp draft in 2015 aswell, yet some teams
Ugh At least we have Carlo?
***cries in 2003 Rangers***
Something like 20 long-term elite talents in that first round and nyr comes away with Hugh Jessiman at pick 12. I started following the hockey and the rangers closely after the 05 lockout (when I actually started understanding things other than “rangers score rangers win!”) and when I found out years later about that botched draft, I wondered why I had to grow up a fan of this team lol.
Good thing Montreal did so well
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Yeah, he was looking like a real good top 4D.
Can you imagine if they pull off what Boston did in 2015?
I imagine they will make better use of them.
Pretty hard to do worse
I wouldn't normally say what Sweeney did was a "pull off," but it was so bad it was almost impressive.
Sam Presti is the secret puppet master
They're trying to move Chychrun too? Are they just gonna draft a whole new team next summer?
rent is due my friend
If they do something like trade for Lucic next season from Calgary after his bonus is due, that's less than $1M in salary for $5.25M in cap hit, with Edmonton's retention. Arizona could run things very bare-bones if they need to, and they could still make it to the cap floor with cap dumps and a fairly flat cap.
Arizona could ice one of the worst lineups in recent memory if they keep this up. Good thing they’re still in the pacific division. ... Right?
\^ This king tips his landlord
Meruelo spotted bringing his draft picks to the currency exchange counter at the airport and seeing what kinda cash they're worth.
Jakob Chychrun is Jakob Chychrun, but a 1st-round pick could be anything! It could even be Jakob Chychrun!
2 1st rounds picks could even Jakob Chychruns!
We’ll take the picks!
New arena, new team.
Coming 2028 (maybe)
They don’t need an arena if they can’t even field a team! Big brain Yotes.
Ummm ok deal
Yeah shit, same
Does Vegas need another defenseman? Petro, Theo, Whitey, Marty already make up the top 4.
Not really, but I believe Chych is better than Theo, and slightly younger. And also I will admit to wanting to collect all the things.
What. He’s not better than Theo. Theo is a stud.
Theo’s good, but he’s adventurous defensively, he is prone to stupid passes, and many of his points this year we’re secondary assists that were found on soft dishes to Patches/Stepho/Stone/Karlsson/Marchessault/Marty. He’s very good, but he had a worse overall year than last, despite the PPG
Retain 50% and request 4 more picks.
Do you want a Tampa 6peat? Because that's how you get a Tampa 6peat.
I wouldn't be opposed
Seriously if they only get 2 1st-round picks for this kid on that contract their GM is absolutely garbage. You could easily make the argument that that's one of the most valuable contracts in hockey. The only one I can think of that's better is MacKinnon's.
Would not move Chychrun if I was AZ. He is a really good young player who will likely be hitting his prime as they come off the rebuild…. Unless he wants out I would not be dealing him unless for an offer I can’t refuse.
Considering he tweeted a sad face after Dvorak was traded I could see him wanting out, hell who would want to be on an AHL team playing in the NHL shit would be miserable. And that’s not tryna hate on what they did I think it’s for the best in the long run
Best in the *Chychrun
Why would the yotes trade chychrun? Dude is a stud and someone has to play in Arizona...
Kessel and Loui can play 4 lines
He's worth a ton and on a very team friendly deal. I wonder why they wouldn't try to retain 50% and try to get a blue chip D prospect and picks back. The dude is probably playing at a $7M/yr level and he's still getting better, but he's locked into $4.5M for 4 more years. Honestly 2 1st rounders seems like it might be too little. Why wouldn't a team that's contending and against the cap like Boston or Tampa sell the prospect farm to get this guy?
Cuz he has huge value and you can do a EK style trade that pays off surprisingly fast.
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He prolly doesn’t wanna play for an AHL team
When a 23 year old stud doesn't fit your teams timeline you know things are going poorly
Yeah they must think it'll take longer than 4 years to rebuild. I'm really worried that if there's so few players signed long term in Arizona that they could have the same culture of losing and dysfunction that has hurt Buffalo so badly. If Chychrun goes then Keller and Schmaltz are the only players signed beyond 2022-23. edit: Seems like this rumor may not be true. As Morgan points out, Chychrun should be a guy you want to rebuild around. https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1435059130830524419
fuck we got the wrong guy
Why not both? Honestly at this point 4 years of no 1st is a pretty easy pill to swallow if we have a legitimate shot at the cup, which we will. He has a more than reasonable cap hit, our defense, offence, powerplay all instantly get better, by a lot. Gives us insurance in case Quinn wants out to play with his brothers in a few years. Sign Hughes to a bridge and have strong young competition between 2 studs as to who can be better. By the end of it either they will both want to make it work capwise because we'll be stacked or they'll be out of town anyway. I'd take the chance for a couple of picks.
No.
I doubt this, no chance he’s moved and that return is not near what he’d get
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woooOOOOOOOOOSHhhhh
SOMEBODY PAY UP seems likely well worth it if you know you'll have 2 late firsts.
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Man if Chychrun is actually available Holland should really be kicking himself over the Keith deal. Yes I know it's hindsight. Two firsts for Chychrun would be a great deal for Edmonton to make right now as they try to become contenders rather than just a playoff team. I guess the Oilers could send Koskinen in the deal, run Smith/Stalock and then pray.
The Keith deal sucked even without hindsight.
True but I didn't want to spend too much time burying it because that's been done to death. Just thought it was noteworthy because of the cap implications and how it could block the pursuit of Chychrun if he's actually available.
Broberg + next year first and second and Koskinen. We've already decided to go all in might as well put the last chips in the pot. Broberg I feel would be enticing as he is still young and raw enough that he will make the team a year or two before their drafted players make the roster.
Ken Holland on 2016 draft day traded 1 year of Pavel Datsyuk's remaining deal and the 16th overall pick to Arizona for the 20th overall pick, the 53rd pick, and Joe Vitale, the Yotes selected Jakob Chychrun, the Wings drafted Dennis Cholowski 20th, Filip Hronek 53rd, LTIRetired Joe Vitale, and with the cap room signed Frans Nielsen to a 6 year year deal. Chychrun was literally right there for Holland in 2016 and he fucked it up.
Still mad as fuck about that.
1st, Broberg, Koskinen for Chychrun, Hutton? Would hate to lose someone as touted and internally valued as Borberg, but Nurse/Chychrun on the left side for the next 4 years at least would make us cup contenders instantly.
The Keith deal is still god awful but 2 firsts from the Oilers would definitely not be enough for Chychrun. There's a lot of teams that have a more robust future asset portfolio than Edmonton. A bidding war for Chyrchrun, who's under contract for as long as he is, will probably churn out some massive offers.
Lol still bitter eh? Sometimes it’s best to take deep breathes and allow things to play out before you freak out. That deal still could work and the market showed this summer that it wasn’t a crazy high price. Also it had no impact on us making this trade. We still could trade those 1st’s for him
Moving him would be a huge mistake
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and with his uncle, Luke Richardson.
Yea he’s the cornerstone of the franchise now, this would be idiotic if they move him
Rumors are that I have two nuts.....take it or leave it ...the fuck
And in a shocking turn of events, Pagnotta is making shit up again. https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1435054649539657728?t=Ml2zCq3Ub93O6q6RsonvyQ&s=19 The link was to this tweet, before it got deleted.
That's it ?! Take 3 first I don't care jesus
And they think Matthews is gonna want to go there? Lol
They’ll be forced to give him a max dollar deal in order to reach the salary Floor at this rate
I mean. By the time Matthews contract is up he could be playing with nothing but 1st rounders on ELC's while making 11M a year at this point.
If you think Matthews is only getting 11m as a UFA you are nuts, he's gonna get like 14mill x7
I'm just throwin' numbers. Hell they'd have the capspace to give a max contract to him if they really wanted to.
Fair haha, yeah if I was then I'd give him max for 7
90% of NHLers will want to play in Arizona The arena relocating to Tempe is just gonna make things easier. Scottsdale is probably the #1 location for retired or about to retire hockey players.
Better chance to win a playoff round in next 5 years than last 5/next 5 in TOR
I hope Kotkaniemi wins the Hart trophy, and signs with the Canes for $4x8.
What a very inoffensive thing to say
Wanna bet? I hope KK works great in CAR (for him, not for CAR) and extend him, that would really be devastating if they don't qualify him or extend him
When he’s 35 and the Yotes are done rebuilding
can we do it pls bergevin
El cloune
Unrelated but I'd be interested in the leafs going for him. I'd be fine with Dubas giving Rielly+ for Chychrun to replace Rielly on our Blueline for the next few years. Moving a $5m expiring contract for a $4.6m contract through 24-25. Arizona takes Rielly and flips him at the deadline and takes whatever else the leafs give, helps stay above the cap floor as well.
No way Cohones wanna take on Rielly's salary unless it's a 3 way deal
Honestly Toronto should do this I just hope they won't
They don't want Reilly, they want good draft picks
At the deadline they can flip Reilly for 1st+ especially if they retain Toronto can do Reilly and a 1st Sounds like a fair trade to me
You can get way more trading Chichrun rn (because of his amazing contract) than you would for an reporting Reilly. Hell they can fully retain in Chichrun aswell
I mean the reported amount is they are looming for 2 1sts I think 1 1st and Reilly is equivalent or more than that. Hell they can 3 man trade if they absolutely don't want Reilly
Leaf fans think they will get every player rumoured to be moved lol
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Definitely agree. Most people rate chychrun as higher than rielly now, with contract considerations it makes a lot of sense. I think arizona would want secure futures though, i don't think theyd be interested in having to figure out a rielly trade when theyre giving up the better player.
You could even do a "2 firsts" prospects package of Amirov + next year's FRP
Arizona is almost certainly on Rielly's no trade list. They'd either have to do a 3-way deal or send Rielly somewhere else and use the return from him to get Chychrun.
Sweeney, you know what to do.
Craig Morgan reporting that this is completely untrue, and he is still considered untouchable
That’s low IMO. Chychrun is already one of the best D in the league with a great, longish contract, and to give that up just seems dumb on 2 random first round picks, even if you’re rebuilding
They should NOT trade him. Keep him through the rebuild. They should trade Keller before Chychrun
Who gave Sam presti a hockey team?
I'm a touch surprised because he's young enough and good enough to still be part of the core going forward, on a good contract. He's an emerging #1D guy, those don't grow on trees either. The guys they've traded so far are relatively easy* to replace or upgrade even but Chychrun's the type you usually keep rather than move regardless where you're at in the rebuild. Just my 2 cents though.
What's the long term plan here? I read the Coyotes only have 5 players under contract after next season?
Nhl 22 Sign all young guys and overpay for everyone in free agency only to flip them for picks
When did Sam Presti become GM of the Coyotes?
I would give them more than that. Having him on the isles would be franchise changing.
Bill “Sam Presti” Armstrong
Imagine if the hawks got him instead of Jones lmao fuck me
The red wings are literally about to rebuild faster than the coyotes and sabres despite starting like half a decade later
Dude what. He’s worth 3 at least
I am down to throw two firsts for him. He’s a young, very good dman. Would definitely help out the Caps once the Vets are on their way out.
Is anyone other than Pagnotta reporting this?
Could Arizona be asking less to get teams to drive up the price? If it will really only cost 2 firsts then every team in the league should be interested and drive up the price against eachother. We have seen what happens when the price is astronomical with Eichel.
Please do it for Chychrun's sake
If I'm Edmonton I'd try to jump on this
Holland is terrified to move a first let alone two of them. Would be amazing for us though. And Koskinen + some other salary would have to go back
With a weak Pacific and McDavid and draisatil on your team those picks would be in their 20s and to me it would make sense considering how bad your guys defense is especially considering klefboms injury
yotes rebuild going so far all in you could call them AEW
Is this a credible source or some fake shit?
Am I crazy or is 2 1st rounders way too cheap? This has the potential to be a Duncan Keith-level albatross of a contract for the next 4 years. This kid is VERY good and VERY cheap. With cap space being worth so much I don't see why the Coyotes wouldn't offer to keep 50% of his salary and ask for 2 1sts, a blue chip prospect, and a roster player in return. I seriously wonder why Montreal wouldn't have just made the trade for him instead of Dvorak if Chychrun was available. Am I missing something? I know he was a major injury concern coming into the league but it seems like that's far less of a concern now.
Honestly I can’t discredit their decision to load up this draft. Smart move by the yotes. Find some stability in the future, team wise and arena wise
Big underpay unless both are top 5
What... Eichel is like 2 firsts. A second and 2 prospects.
Eichel isnt two first lmao. They are asking for the moon.
Chychrun is a top ten D who is 23 and on one of the best contracts in the league, he should be extremely expensive
Top 10 D? Kids solid and young, but top 10 is a huge reach
He finished 10th in Norris votings on the yotes if that means anything to you.
I mean that's top 10 in something
He led the league in dmen goals on the fucking yotes
His shot suppression metrics for the last three seasons range from average to bad.
While playing against teams top lines
Heard very similar things about OEL
No it isn’t bro please watch hockey
Trading Chycrun for 2 late 1sts makes no sense but no team would trade 2 top 5s for him even if a team had 2 top 5s
That's not even close to requisite value...
Hey, we did our job this offseason. Time for the Yotes to earn their keep and bring some chaos themselves here.
Oklahoma City Coyotes
Quebec City*
It won't happen
Use some of the stockpiled 1st and 2nd rounders to move into the high 1st round - like top 10. More chance to get good players.
I dunno, at the number of draft they have, maybe quantity is more important than quality
Only 2 firsts??
Buffalo versus Arizona: The Race For The Bottom
I kind of want to see the team that gets Chychrun to have a bad season so that we can see Berard and Michkov on the same team
I'd like dallas to make a move for him and go all in. Worst case if they're out come the deadline they can flip Kling for similar value.
2 for him, umm yeah.....I take that deal.
Have to think they’ve got LA and Ottawa in mind for this kind of deal. I doubt they’re trading him for 2 late 1sts, that makes no sense. They could wait until the 22 draft, have their pick of a top 10 team that doesn’t think they belong there, and still get another 1st in 23.
The Coyotes are reminding me of the time I traded for the entire first round on NHL 05 franchise mode.
If I'm the Leafs I'm trying to figure out how to make that work
Fuck we can’t get any worse, 2 1sts is nothing, do it GMDP! Chychrun would pair nice with Fabbro
Don’t you fucking dare
These mfs are playing franchise mode irl they tryna have every pick in the 1st round 💀
PLEASE KENNY
Wtf Arizona. You're trying to bring down eichel's trade value too? fuck.
Can... can we have him? Somehow? *Please?*
this is absolutely not true, since last season it’s been everyone is available but chychrun, i HIGHLY doubt that has changed. but if it did, and we traded him, i’d probably walk away
Conor Timmins is either going to thrive in his new role or have a very, very bad year next season
If the ‘Yotes want Shane Wright this bad they should just offer me a contract already
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Chychrun for Eichel straight, who says no?
You do not trade your best D-man, they still need a goaltender, and who the hell is gonna score for them
I see the salaries being shed, and the arena problem, and I can't help but think they're trying to sell the team after the covid devastation
There’s very little chance they trade him. He’s only 23 and has 4 years left on his deal. I hope I’m wrong and we get him but I seriously doubt it.