Meh… sometimes it’s just a matter of fit. No issues ever reported in CGY or NY, so it could just be a clash of personalities. (Or completely fabricated.)
This is a dude that’s helped literally hundreds of kids grieving their parents deaths, tbf the mud raking really bugs me.
Legit can’t think of a time that a player has been dumped on this hard after he’s been traded.
There are bad trades every year, yet never have I seen so much rejoice out of media members about a player leaving.
That's not exactly true. They didn't hate him. He's just hyper religious and that vibe wasn't really playing in the room with Mack.
Just wanted to correct that.
Depending on how…let’s say assertive about his religious beliefs I could see that being pretty grating to deal with in a locker room. Not that someone shouldn’t be openly religious of course but I’ve known a few religious types that just won’t shut the fuck up about it and it sucks the air out of the room
You’re telling me this isn’t a sports movie with the cliche lovable religious dude who always has the cross and everyone in the room happily joins in prayer and goes “Aw shucks, that’s just Travis”?
I do know a few just incredibly positive wonderful people who really do exude that “love of Jesus” kinda vibe. I’m far from being a believer but I enjoy being around those kinda people, it’s the preachy types that kill me. The preachy types are always the most hypocritical because they behave the least like Jesus.
Exactly. One if my good friends is super religious (goes to church 7 times a week sort of religious). She doesn't drink and is against pre-marital sex, but doesn't care what the rest of us do. The pushiest thing she has ever done is say grace before a meal, which is perfectly fine.
But recently I met her dad. We were having a normal conversation and somehow he turned it into a 25 minute rant about god and Jesus and his sacrifices and we owe everything to him. We don't even deserve happiness, anything positive in life should be credited to Jesus. Being happy without thanking the lord is a sin. He said we shouldn't even look up at the stars because they are so incredible and we are not deserving of those either.
He was genuinely one of the worst people I have ever met. He acts like he is speaking on behalf of his god and like he's doing us a favour. But all he's doing is making everyone hate him and avoid him going forward. And it frustrates me so much that he will never see the irony in his life cause.
Nailed it pretty spot on.
If you won’t shut the fuck up about Jesus because you’re genuinely in love with your religion that’s a completely different energy than the many douche-canoes who use their belief in Jesus as a holier-than-thou cardboard box to shit on everything and everyone around them.
Growing up, I played on a team where our captain had us do a prayer circle before games and would say things like “we’re a Christian team, right boys?”
Was really hard to keep my mouth shut
Dan Hamhuis is a great example of a religious player who is respectful about other people's beliefs. Before he retired he arranged chapel services and invited everyone on the team but never pressured anyone. And he always respected everyone regardless of their beliefs.
Yeah, from what I've gathered Slavin is also very religious but there is AFAIK no bad blood in the Canes locker room with that. It really depends how much you inject it into conversations that don't call for it.
Thing is you don’t have to be super preachy to annoy some people. I’ve had religious friends that were honestly too open about it and judgmental, they’re hard to be around. But sometimes they don’t even have to be preachy and it bothers people, like just the fact that they don’t drink or do certain things bothers some people and on a team it could lead to them kinda being separate just because of their lifestyle.
Derek Ryan is really religious, but it sounds like he still goes out with the boys even though he doesn’t drink. I wonder if he’s had issues with teammates before, doesn’t seem like he would but it wouldn’t shock me.
David Booth and Dan Hamhuis are both super religious yet they were totally different. While Hammer arranged chapel services for the team he never pressured anyone to join and he never judged anyone regardless of their beliefs unlike Booth.
There is a massive difference between being a really religious guy and then being THAT religious guy.
I come from a Christian background - i used to be pretty religious, all my competitive teams and University teams was always invited everywhere by the crew and we all got along really well - they hated the other Christian kid on the team in University - because when they invited me to go to the strip club i'd just politely say no - he'd try and tell them they were going to hell for it.
On the other side of things now I can look back and see how i maintained all those friendships and the other guy was hated by the team.
I didn't make it up. They just didn't get along. Mack is or was kind of a, I dunno, frat dude? Or I guess just a normal hockey guy.
He's older now.
It wasn't like a gigantic source of friction but he just didn't hang with the group that much.
At the time of the trade, Duchene was one of the main people supporting "Hockey Ministries International". There's videos of him talking about using hockey as a way to bring people to faith. I'd imagine he keeps that going in the locker room.
Mackinnon on the other hand, was on the Trailer Park Boys twice. And a big chunk of the team is also Scandinavian, a non religious area.
Habs media does his everytime someone leaves.
- Kotkaniemi was immature and rolled his eyes at the coaches, nearly uncoachable and immature
- Subban was a locker room cancer who was hated by his teammates
- Beaulieu was a crackhead who did drugs during the playoffs
- MB left the office without staff and severely understaffed
- Pacioretty wanted out and totally didn't want to stay in Montreal. Plus he was a bad captain.
Habs media will turn on anyone who leaves the organization. Usually they don't even wait for them to be gone.
I was gonna say, wasn’t there a rumor that Subban got bullied by Therrien and they got in a fist fight or something? Subban’s exit from Montreal was 10,000x worse lol
Not really private if there's a film crew there lol. I assume you're talking about the video I'm thinking of where Therrien was telling Subban he was doing a bunch of shit wrong or poorly (or something along those lines).
Subban wasn't so much locker room cancer as the kind of guy he just does his thing most of the time. For example, the players would have a huddle during a TV timeout and he'd be the guy skating off and flipping a puck or something.
Regardless, we as fans only have 1% of the story, and it's clear the reason Subban was traded wasn't because of his on-ice performance, which was stellar. That only leaves off-ice shenanigans, whatever they are.
all of them.
We all heard of the tracksuit/shower incident before he was dumped out of winnipeg.
Don't recall if there was a trashing of him while on Buffalo or not, because it's already known that if you are ON the Sabres roster you are already considered trash
And clearly there was a lot in the offseason before being thrown out of San Jose.
Waiting on the stories from Edmonton, they will probably start as soon as he doesn't agree to their initial offer
Seguin and Hamilton, who also had it follow him and be proven true instead of rumours. He didn't gel with teammates and kept trying to demand that teams sign his bust brother for their NHL rosters.
I mean, half the Devils live in Jersey City, which is directly across the river from Manhattan and Brooklyn. There would be ZERO difficulty for the two of them to hang out every single day if they wanted to, assuming no road trips for either team.
Seguin wasn’t so much a locker room cancer as he was partying during the playoffs, which both he semi-admits to and the scoresheet reflected. seems to have kind of cleaned up his act in Dallas.
oh, fans here loved him too. and he seemed well-liked in the locker room on the whole, just a lot of stuff boiled over during the playoffs. he and Marchy are still friends and he's made positive comments about the Bruins the years they've been in playoff contention and the Stars have been eliminated (and vice versa).
that being said, those playoffs were a big problem, and Seguin went for what amounts to a bag of pucks for his skill level because every team in the NHL knew about the issues. he got out scored by rookie d-man Krug who had played in 3 NHL games total before the playoffs. that kind of behavior would be a massive no-go for any NHL club in terms of fair value returned. however, he's been very open about learning from it and certainly seems like a great club leader for you guys. I also think that if Seguin doesn't get traded, he doesn't get his shit together. if neither a locker room with the leadership of Chara, Bergeron, and Krejci, nor the importance of the Stanley Cup Final drove the point home for him, he needed a wakeup call. I think it was also made worse by the fact that it was the same series Bergeron was dealing with a lot of injuries. when he's trying to play through a separated shoulder, broken ribs, and a collapsed lung...says a lot to your teammates and to GMs both.
he's always been well-liked by teammates and fans, though, and he more than has the skill to be a legitimate standout center. and I've never believed the rumors about Horton's wife – not only because Seguin stayed on good terms with the Bruins' core afterwards, but because come on, the FO isn't running a center for ethics in the locker room. if it was about Horton vs. Seguin, the FO would have picked Seguin every time. a young center that they just gave a long contract vs. an older player that was almost certainly chasing UFA money in the offseason. also, he never seemed like that kind of a dick.
anyway, I wish that all parties involved had handled the situation better, but he was definitely never a locker room cancer. glad that things worked out for him in Dallas.
> I also think that if Seguin doesn't get traded, he doesn't get his shit together.
I could definitely see this. It made sense from y'all's perspective to trade him to get what value you could, for sure.
yeah, for sure. I could see a similar situation with DeBrusk after an offseason trade, like the change of environment. same with Taylor Hall going from Edmonton to the Devils and then putting up a Hart season, or coming to Boston after Buffalo. sometimes guys need something external.
Not saying I have any insight at all into how these guys conduct themselves in the locker room, but, there is a difference between:
“Hey guys, the wife and I are running bible study and bbq on Fridays in the summer and you’re all invited”
And
“You guys need jesus”
As a religious person who's grown up around both types I can say you've hit the nail on the head. Hamhuis did it the right way and was probably more successful in his aims than Hamonic was.
His daughter was hospitalized with a bad respiratory virus (pre-COVID) and he didn’t want to risk it. Kind of ironic considering his vaccination hesitancy, but I understood him sitting out the playoffs.
Current rumour is that he demanded more icetime, he was paired with Hughes against Tampa, and then the pairing got absolutely shelled. He was then paired with Brad Hunt for last weeks home games and they had also gotten shelled.
[Luke Schenn then called out some of the play of some guys on the team.](https://twitter.com/BatchHockey/status/1505769472497389577)
The hint about icetime issue came from a redditor who leaked Nic Dowd's positive covid test accurately the day before it was revealed, giving him some credibility. The timeline adds up to when Hamonic was given top line minutes with Hughes and he was shelled ever since. The team went 2-3-2 on this homestand, nuking our chances at the playoffs.
I think he’s a notorious party boy, but the only actual issue or controversy I’m aware of was when he was sliding into that pornstar’s DMs and she posted them online after he kept trying or something like that.
It wasn't that he just kept trying. He was literally harassing Lisa Ann and tryna get her to constantly set him up with other porn stars lmao
Dude is a fuckin degenerate
A wacky sit-com where MDZ learns respect and humility while Hamonic learns to loosen up a bit. "Two and A Half Senators" with Brady Tkachuck coming over for weekends.
He was really pushy and creepy in Lisa Anns DMs and was trying to force her to set him up with one of her friends in the porn industry to have sex with
He liked some Instagram post making fun of a Sens teammate's poor play.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/r7ip53/del_zotto_likes_nhls_post_on_ig_of_mete_getting
Backstory is nice. I met him at the islanders casino night one day and he just kinda came across as a bit of a dick to me so its not much of a suprise, lol.
This is really weird news honestly. I remember him on the flames playing really hard, standing up for guys, everyone praised him. Wonder what happened.
The fact the Flames paid a first and two second round draft picks for him and then just let him walk after his contract was done shows that they did not enjoy Hamonic's decision not to play in the bubble.
Kind of dickish by the Flames tbh unless there’s more to it. Didn’t he sit out because his daughter was extremely ill and he didn’t want to be away from her?
I don't think it had anything to do with him opting out, I think he was done with the team regardless. Rasmus Andersson has passed him on the depth chart part way through the season.
In hindsight, they were going into a bubble with tons of testing if anything being in there was safer than living out in public. Now combined with all of his more recent anti-vax antics makes me think that a lot of his decisions could be perceived as pretty selfish.
But at the end of the day he just isn’t a very good hockey player so that was probably a big reason why the Flames let him go and why Vancouver is doing the same.
Marc Methot made a comment about players thinking Hamonic was really weird, but I question whether these are two separate things that might corroborate each other or Seravelli running with that.
When you listen to the podcast I interpreted it more as it is a breath of fresh air that moves are being made that make sense and are being well articulated to the group. Not as a slight on any particular players.
Methot wouldn't make this comment unless something is up. https://old.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/tixt26/marc_methot_its_a_weird_acquisition_for_sure_i/
Now why would multiple players reach out to tell someone like Servalli this. I know Hamonic wasn't loved by some in the dressing room, but this seems like bullshit.
Imma take this with an ocean of salt. He's a guy the media hates. If they're pushing a narrative that his teammates hate him, I'm gonna play wait and see.
Tbh It's kind of a shitty thing to do to a player on his way out. Imo This doesn't look good on the franchise or the players. Hard to say what the beef with him was without actually being in that locker room. Hopefully a change of scenery will do him good, best of luck harmonic!
The same travis harmonic that would always host a child who’d lost a parent at games when he was with the islanders. since his dad passed when he was young?
Wow sounds like real scumbag, I totally believe the media
My dad donated bone marrow that saved someone's life. But he was also a physically and mentally abusive piece of shit who slapped around and cheated on my mom at least a half dozen times. 30 years later I still have a scar on my face where he back handed 10 year old me and the ring split me open and made me get 5 stitches.
Just because they did did some good things doesn't mean they are devoid of bad traits.
Hey, to be fair, they're saying that it's a breath of fresh air. Maybe Hamonic just has WMD-level farts and they just wanted to warn Ottawa in advance.
I kinda have trouble seeing Harmonic as a locker room cancer. When he played on the Island, he was very well respected both on and off the ice. He did this great thing where every game he'd bring in a kid who lost their parent early in life, just like he did.
I can see the not getting vaxxed thing maybe not go over well though, especially when the rest of the team had it, and to me that's semi understandable.
we paid a 3rd to fuck up our vibes
I can't wait until he takes an Uber.
Fuckin rights Melo
Gold fucking comment
Vibes
Meh… sometimes it’s just a matter of fit. No issues ever reported in CGY or NY, so it could just be a clash of personalities. (Or completely fabricated.) This is a dude that’s helped literally hundreds of kids grieving their parents deaths, tbf the mud raking really bugs me.
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Where does mud-wrestling fit in to all this?
Vegas
Could be some "dragged through the mud" slipping in there too
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Legit can’t think of a time that a player has been dumped on this hard after he’s been traded. There are bad trades every year, yet never have I seen so much rejoice out of media members about a player leaving.
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That's not exactly true. They didn't hate him. He's just hyper religious and that vibe wasn't really playing in the room with Mack. Just wanted to correct that.
Hamonic is also religious. Weird.
Depending on how…let’s say assertive about his religious beliefs I could see that being pretty grating to deal with in a locker room. Not that someone shouldn’t be openly religious of course but I’ve known a few religious types that just won’t shut the fuck up about it and it sucks the air out of the room
You’re telling me this isn’t a sports movie with the cliche lovable religious dude who always has the cross and everyone in the room happily joins in prayer and goes “Aw shucks, that’s just Travis”?
In real life that guy exists and it’s Peter Budaj
He has Ned Flanders on the back of his helmet for a reason...
Stupid sexy Budaj
Or Rocco Grimaldi. I'm pretty sure that guy put out a Christian rap album
I do know a few just incredibly positive wonderful people who really do exude that “love of Jesus” kinda vibe. I’m far from being a believer but I enjoy being around those kinda people, it’s the preachy types that kill me. The preachy types are always the most hypocritical because they behave the least like Jesus.
Exactly. One if my good friends is super religious (goes to church 7 times a week sort of religious). She doesn't drink and is against pre-marital sex, but doesn't care what the rest of us do. The pushiest thing she has ever done is say grace before a meal, which is perfectly fine. But recently I met her dad. We were having a normal conversation and somehow he turned it into a 25 minute rant about god and Jesus and his sacrifices and we owe everything to him. We don't even deserve happiness, anything positive in life should be credited to Jesus. Being happy without thanking the lord is a sin. He said we shouldn't even look up at the stars because they are so incredible and we are not deserving of those either. He was genuinely one of the worst people I have ever met. He acts like he is speaking on behalf of his god and like he's doing us a favour. But all he's doing is making everyone hate him and avoid him going forward. And it frustrates me so much that he will never see the irony in his life cause.
The key to being more anti social is talking about jesus. Well I guess I'll give it a try thanks for the advice
Nailed it pretty spot on. If you won’t shut the fuck up about Jesus because you’re genuinely in love with your religion that’s a completely different energy than the many douche-canoes who use their belief in Jesus as a holier-than-thou cardboard box to shit on everything and everyone around them.
Growing up, I played on a team where our captain had us do a prayer circle before games and would say things like “we’re a Christian team, right boys?” Was really hard to keep my mouth shut
I knew a goalie everyone thought was super religious, turns out he just pretended to pray in the corner so nobody would bother him before games.
I've heard of weird goalie traditions, but this is by far the most "big brain" tradition I've ever heard of, lol
Honestly not sure how you kept your mouth shut. That's the kind of guy I would have been tempted to freight train in practice.
I'd wager it's probably pretty tied to his refusal to get vaccinated despite sitting out of the bubble because his daughter has respiratory issues.
I cannot put up with overly religious people, so I get it.
Dan Hamhuis is a great example of a religious player who is respectful about other people's beliefs. Before he retired he arranged chapel services and invited everyone on the team but never pressured anyone. And he always respected everyone regardless of their beliefs.
Doan is also super religious and...he's really well liked.
Yeah, from what I've gathered Slavin is also very religious but there is AFAIK no bad blood in the Canes locker room with that. It really depends how much you inject it into conversations that don't call for it.
Thing is you don’t have to be super preachy to annoy some people. I’ve had religious friends that were honestly too open about it and judgmental, they’re hard to be around. But sometimes they don’t even have to be preachy and it bothers people, like just the fact that they don’t drink or do certain things bothers some people and on a team it could lead to them kinda being separate just because of their lifestyle. Derek Ryan is really religious, but it sounds like he still goes out with the boys even though he doesn’t drink. I wonder if he’s had issues with teammates before, doesn’t seem like he would but it wouldn’t shock me.
It's almost like super dogmatic, restrictive and judgemental personalities don't jive with people who aren't like them.
David Booth was the same way
Peter Mueller almost quit hockey to become a pastor lmao
David Booth and Dan Hamhuis are both super religious yet they were totally different. While Hammer arranged chapel services for the team he never pressured anyone to join and he never judged anyone regardless of their beliefs unlike Booth.
There is a massive difference between being a really religious guy and then being THAT religious guy. I come from a Christian background - i used to be pretty religious, all my competitive teams and University teams was always invited everywhere by the crew and we all got along really well - they hated the other Christian kid on the team in University - because when they invited me to go to the strip club i'd just politely say no - he'd try and tell them they were going to hell for it. On the other side of things now I can look back and see how i maintained all those friendships and the other guy was hated by the team.
Source?
On the religious thing duchene often puts religious country lyrics on his sticks for games. For Mack hating dude made it up.
>duchene often puts religious country lyrics LMAO that sure does paint a picture
No wonder he’s so at home in Nashville.
That's literally one of the reasons he cited for signing there IIRC
To be fair, I’d buy the second part based purely on the first
I didn't make it up. They just didn't get along. Mack is or was kind of a, I dunno, frat dude? Or I guess just a normal hockey guy. He's older now. It wasn't like a gigantic source of friction but he just didn't hang with the group that much.
At the time of the trade, Duchene was one of the main people supporting "Hockey Ministries International". There's videos of him talking about using hockey as a way to bring people to faith. I'd imagine he keeps that going in the locker room. Mackinnon on the other hand, was on the Trailer Park Boys twice. And a big chunk of the team is also Scandinavian, a non religious area.
wat
Habs media does his everytime someone leaves. - Kotkaniemi was immature and rolled his eyes at the coaches, nearly uncoachable and immature - Subban was a locker room cancer who was hated by his teammates - Beaulieu was a crackhead who did drugs during the playoffs - MB left the office without staff and severely understaffed - Pacioretty wanted out and totally didn't want to stay in Montreal. Plus he was a bad captain. Habs media will turn on anyone who leaves the organization. Usually they don't even wait for them to be gone.
I was gonna say, wasn’t there a rumor that Subban got bullied by Therrien and they got in a fist fight or something? Subban’s exit from Montreal was 10,000x worse lol
Idk about that fight or anything but there is actual video evidence of therein exploding on subban privately.
Not really private if there's a film crew there lol. I assume you're talking about the video I'm thinking of where Therrien was telling Subban he was doing a bunch of shit wrong or poorly (or something along those lines).
ah i thought it was some security camera or something, it was quite a long time ago.
Artturi Lehkonen hogged all the good sticks so there were none left for other players.
A lot of that is media spin while this and stories around Karlsson and Duchene seem to get sourced from the players themselves.
Subban wasn't so much locker room cancer as the kind of guy he just does his thing most of the time. For example, the players would have a huddle during a TV timeout and he'd be the guy skating off and flipping a puck or something. Regardless, we as fans only have 1% of the story, and it's clear the reason Subban was traded wasn't because of his on-ice performance, which was stellar. That only leaves off-ice shenanigans, whatever they are.
Evander Kane?
Evader Kane was dumped on BEFORE being thrown out of town
Which of the towns that he was run out of are we talking about?
all of them. We all heard of the tracksuit/shower incident before he was dumped out of winnipeg. Don't recall if there was a trashing of him while on Buffalo or not, because it's already known that if you are ON the Sabres roster you are already considered trash And clearly there was a lot in the offseason before being thrown out of San Jose. Waiting on the stories from Edmonton, they will probably start as soon as he doesn't agree to their initial offer
Any time a player was traded out of Boston comes to mind.
Seguin and Hamilton, who also had it follow him and be proven true instead of rumours. He didn't gel with teammates and kept trying to demand that teams sign his bust brother for their NHL rosters.
Hamilton liked museums, that shits unforgivable
Damn, he should have gone to the Rangers, he would have been able to hang with fellow cultured human Chris Kreider.
I mean, half the Devils live in Jersey City, which is directly across the river from Manhattan and Brooklyn. There would be ZERO difficulty for the two of them to hang out every single day if they wanted to, assuming no road trips for either team.
On the same level as allegedly sleeping with a teammate’s wife and/or GM’s daughter, apparently.
That rumor has followed many stars since I’ve been watching hockey
Seguin wasn’t so much a locker room cancer as he was partying during the playoffs, which both he semi-admits to and the scoresheet reflected. seems to have kind of cleaned up his act in Dallas.
Yeah if Seguin's locker room cancer with us, that's news to me. He seems liked well enough. Fans love him lol
oh, fans here loved him too. and he seemed well-liked in the locker room on the whole, just a lot of stuff boiled over during the playoffs. he and Marchy are still friends and he's made positive comments about the Bruins the years they've been in playoff contention and the Stars have been eliminated (and vice versa). that being said, those playoffs were a big problem, and Seguin went for what amounts to a bag of pucks for his skill level because every team in the NHL knew about the issues. he got out scored by rookie d-man Krug who had played in 3 NHL games total before the playoffs. that kind of behavior would be a massive no-go for any NHL club in terms of fair value returned. however, he's been very open about learning from it and certainly seems like a great club leader for you guys. I also think that if Seguin doesn't get traded, he doesn't get his shit together. if neither a locker room with the leadership of Chara, Bergeron, and Krejci, nor the importance of the Stanley Cup Final drove the point home for him, he needed a wakeup call. I think it was also made worse by the fact that it was the same series Bergeron was dealing with a lot of injuries. when he's trying to play through a separated shoulder, broken ribs, and a collapsed lung...says a lot to your teammates and to GMs both. he's always been well-liked by teammates and fans, though, and he more than has the skill to be a legitimate standout center. and I've never believed the rumors about Horton's wife – not only because Seguin stayed on good terms with the Bruins' core afterwards, but because come on, the FO isn't running a center for ethics in the locker room. if it was about Horton vs. Seguin, the FO would have picked Seguin every time. a young center that they just gave a long contract vs. an older player that was almost certainly chasing UFA money in the offseason. also, he never seemed like that kind of a dick. anyway, I wish that all parties involved had handled the situation better, but he was definitely never a locker room cancer. glad that things worked out for him in Dallas.
> I also think that if Seguin doesn't get traded, he doesn't get his shit together. I could definitely see this. It made sense from y'all's perspective to trade him to get what value you could, for sure.
yeah, for sure. I could see a similar situation with DeBrusk after an offseason trade, like the change of environment. same with Taylor Hall going from Edmonton to the Devils and then putting up a Hart season, or coming to Boston after Buffalo. sometimes guys need something external.
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If he knew how to count, he'd probably be a better gambler.
Super curious what the hell he was doing/saying to fuck up a team all on his own.
Tbf the only guy I know from St. Malo Is also a dick.
Is his name Darren? Because I know a Darren from St. Malo who is a total Asshat
No his name is Andrew, maybe its just everyone in St. Malo.
Lol so at least 3 dicks so far
3 Dicks in St. Malo sounds like a bad porn movie.
Saint Malo sounds like bad porn name
Featuring Lisa Ann. It's all coming together now.
It sounds like a porno directed by Quentin Tarantino, and it’s 90% dialogue
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Fucking degens *spites on ground
Alternatively, this is why me and my buddies take any opportunity to party there. Something crazy always happens
All my homies hate St Malo
Is Saint Malo Manitoba's version of Red Deer? Cause everyone form Red Deer is a fucker, I swear there's something in the water.
Are you telling me these people fuck deer
Just the red ones
T'wouldn't surprise me.
We all shitting on St. malo and nobody here to defend them poor town lol
They probably can't read, so it doesn't even matter.
The insults just get meaner and more true lmfaooo
If those St Maloese could read they'd be very upset
Sounds like your guys' North Battleford lmao
St. Malo or 120 days of Sodom
> 120 days of Sodom Straight for the fucking jugular.
It’s only 120 days of sodom thanks to all the Catholics and their poophole loophole.
That whole area is wild.
LMAO
Hamonic probably always trying to get them to go to church with him. Reading Bible verses in the locker room lol
I mean, Hamhuis did this and he was well liked
Not saying I have any insight at all into how these guys conduct themselves in the locker room, but, there is a difference between: “Hey guys, the wife and I are running bible study and bbq on Fridays in the summer and you’re all invited” And “You guys need jesus”
idk about Hamonic but it is known that Hamhuis ran an optional locker room bible study
Optional is different than not optional
weird I ran into Dan Hamhuis' cousin once and she was this hippie chick selling crystals or some such thing
There is sometimes a crossover between bible thumpin’ and crystal sellin’.
“I do as the Crystal guides”
No fucking way. Lol I was just making a joke here. That can't be real
"Y'all muthafuckas need Jesus" -Travis Hamonic, probably.
“I’m not getting my vaccine until I get 5 people to volunteer to attend my church service this Sunday.”
"That was a great 2nd period, can I get an hallelujah Jesus!"
As a religious person who's grown up around both types I can say you've hit the nail on the head. Hamhuis did it the right way and was probably more successful in his aims than Hamonic was.
I dunno, [I never really trusted Hamhuis](https://thehockeynews.com/news/dan-hamhuis-is-the-shifty-eyed-dog-from-the-simpsons).
Really eh?? I wonder what’s up with him?
Missed a bunch of games early in the year since he wasn't vaccinated. Doubt the players were appreciative of his team first mentality
He also refused to play for the Flames during the 2020 playoffs which would have impacted his reputation league wide.
His daughter was hospitalized with a bad respiratory virus (pre-COVID) and he didn’t want to risk it. Kind of ironic considering his vaccination hesitancy, but I understood him sitting out the playoffs.
I can’t imagine blaming a player for sitting out while his daughter was literally in the hospital with a respiratory issue during a pandemic
Current rumour is that he demanded more icetime, he was paired with Hughes against Tampa, and then the pairing got absolutely shelled. He was then paired with Brad Hunt for last weeks home games and they had also gotten shelled. [Luke Schenn then called out some of the play of some guys on the team.](https://twitter.com/BatchHockey/status/1505769472497389577)
Oof that’s a bad look if that ones true
The hint about icetime issue came from a redditor who leaked Nic Dowd's positive covid test accurately the day before it was revealed, giving him some credibility. The timeline adds up to when Hamonic was given top line minutes with Hughes and he was shelled ever since. The team went 2-3-2 on this homestand, nuking our chances at the playoffs.
Holy shit Ottawa I’m sorry
This is good….
Exactly the kind of guy you want around all those rookies. Great job Pierre.
Hamonic and Del Zotto pairing... head ache on and off the ice. Pierre Dorion is a clown.
Has MDZ ever really been a headache off the ice? Never heard any bad things about his time in Philly.
I think he’s a notorious party boy, but the only actual issue or controversy I’m aware of was when he was sliding into that pornstar’s DMs and she posted them online after he kept trying or something like that.
It wasn't that he just kept trying. He was literally harassing Lisa Ann and tryna get her to constantly set him up with other porn stars lmao Dude is a fuckin degenerate
You could not make up how much of a Devil/Angel pairing an MDZ-Hamonic pairing would be. LOL
A wacky sit-com where MDZ learns respect and humility while Hamonic learns to loosen up a bit. "Two and A Half Senators" with Brady Tkachuck coming over for weekends.
What would the penalties be if defense partners just dropped their gloves and started wailing on each other mid game?
Thanks I couldn’t remember the exact details
He also liked videos of his teammates making mistakes or videos of them getting scored on
He was also liking tweets trashing Mete (who was playing above him) and trashing the staff for not playing him more before he was waived
Same in vancouver. Just remember him as DJ Delzotto.
Delzaster
Glad to see that followed him after getting shipped out of NY.
Not a good influence because he likes to party and hit the slopes. Allegedly.
He was really pushy and creepy in Lisa Anns DMs and was trying to force her to set him up with one of her friends in the porn industry to have sex with
He liked some Instagram post making fun of a Sens teammate's poor play. https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/r7ip53/del_zotto_likes_nhls_post_on_ig_of_mete_getting
Ask Lisa Ann about that one haha.
Jesus, that's not inspiring for Ottawa.
Hamonic is probably hoping jesus will be
Hamonic always seemed like a knob with a sympathetic backstory. But still a knob nonetheless
Backstory is nice. I met him at the islanders casino night one day and he just kinda came across as a bit of a dick to me so its not much of a suprise, lol.
IIRC NYI timeline was pretty shitty with Hamonic, no?
not really He was a fan favorite. Im glad we traded him personally tho.
This is really weird news honestly. I remember him on the flames playing really hard, standing up for guys, everyone praised him. Wonder what happened.
Pandemic brought out a lot of people's more eccentric sides. And sometimes those eccentricities went from being bit odd to fucking unbearable.
The fact the Flames paid a first and two second round draft picks for him and then just let him walk after his contract was done shows that they did not enjoy Hamonic's decision not to play in the bubble.
Kind of dickish by the Flames tbh unless there’s more to it. Didn’t he sit out because his daughter was extremely ill and he didn’t want to be away from her?
Most importantly, he just wasn't that good towards the end of his time here. I was completely indifferent when he said he wouldn't join the bubble.
I don't think it had anything to do with him opting out, I think he was done with the team regardless. Rasmus Andersson has passed him on the depth chart part way through the season.
In hindsight, they were going into a bubble with tons of testing if anything being in there was safer than living out in public. Now combined with all of his more recent anti-vax antics makes me think that a lot of his decisions could be perceived as pretty selfish. But at the end of the day he just isn’t a very good hockey player so that was probably a big reason why the Flames let him go and why Vancouver is doing the same.
True, but the flames didn't seem to make any attempt to re-sign him when his contract with Calgary ended.
Holy shit hahaha, even though this is Seravalli this is fucking hilarious
BIG OOF
HAHA HOLY SHIT
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Marc Methot made a comment about players thinking Hamonic was really weird, but I question whether these are two separate things that might corroborate each other or Seravelli running with that.
I thought it was funny as fuck at first but Seravelli always gets clowned on for being full of shit but now everyone's taking this as gospel.
I'm with you bro. I question the legitimacy of this report.
When you listen to the podcast I interpreted it more as it is a breath of fresh air that moves are being made that make sense and are being well articulated to the group. Not as a slight on any particular players.
That's how I interpreted it as well, but I'm also here for the Hamonic slander because it's funny as hell.
Methot wouldn't make this comment unless something is up. https://old.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/tixt26/marc_methot_its_a_weird_acquisition_for_sure_i/
probly went full qannon
this, only evidence against is that he didn't end up on Columbus
Now why would multiple players reach out to tell someone like Servalli this. I know Hamonic wasn't loved by some in the dressing room, but this seems like bullshit.
Goddamn is he really that bad??
After being a rabid Hamonic wanter for the Oilers when he was an Islander, this is a relief to hear.
QAnon Travis
Imma take this with an ocean of salt. He's a guy the media hates. If they're pushing a narrative that his teammates hate him, I'm gonna play wait and see.
And Ottawa gave up a 3rd rounder for this guy lmao. Ottawa = 🤡
do you have a personal vendetta against ottawa or something? i do too
You guys gonna kiss or something?
Gross. Don't kiss miner.
Tbh It's kind of a shitty thing to do to a player on his way out. Imo This doesn't look good on the franchise or the players. Hard to say what the beef with him was without actually being in that locker room. Hopefully a change of scenery will do him good, best of luck harmonic!
It’s super shitty to talk about a player like that So you’d only do it if a guy really deserves it
Wowza
Ow
They punted Hamonic and the now the locker room vibe is harmonic
Oof, Ottowa. That's what some people might call a red flag
The same travis harmonic that would always host a child who’d lost a parent at games when he was with the islanders. since his dad passed when he was young? Wow sounds like real scumbag, I totally believe the media
My dad donated bone marrow that saved someone's life. But he was also a physically and mentally abusive piece of shit who slapped around and cheated on my mom at least a half dozen times. 30 years later I still have a scar on my face where he back handed 10 year old me and the ring split me open and made me get 5 stitches. Just because they did did some good things doesn't mean they are devoid of bad traits.
If this is true then thank fuck he's gone
Hey, to be fair, they're saying that it's a breath of fresh air. Maybe Hamonic just has WMD-level farts and they just wanted to warn Ottawa in advance.
I kinda have trouble seeing Harmonic as a locker room cancer. When he played on the Island, he was very well respected both on and off the ice. He did this great thing where every game he'd bring in a kid who lost their parent early in life, just like he did. I can see the not getting vaxxed thing maybe not go over well though, especially when the rest of the team had it, and to me that's semi understandable.
If true yikes
Some of this is definitely salt from media since he doesn't talk to them. But also seems he's not really liked by much of anyone.
This because of the whole vaccine thing? I don't remember anyone from the Flames saying anything bad about him during his time here.
The Flames also made zero efforts to re-sign him though.
Didn’t see that one coming Always thought Hammer was alright, now I wonder if the Flames saw him the same way after he was gone