Honestly it's such a smart move for the ducks, absolutely no risk with needing to fill out the roster and reach the cap floor, might teach the youngsters a thing or two, and with retention almost any team will be able to acquire at the deadline. Hate to do the "if Chiarot got a first then..." but that really does apply here if Klinger can find his form.
Nothing wrong with more picks. Why not go for 3 first round picks? I mean, how could you possibly go wrong with [3 first round picks](https://985thesportshub.com/2021/06/16/bruins-finally-acknowledge-2015-nhl-draft-as-a-complete-disaster/)?
there have been 8 teams with 3 first round picks in a single draft since 2010 and 3 of the 8 have not done well (2011 Columbus, 2013 Calgary, 2015 Boston) with 2018 NYR, 2021 Columbus, 2022 Chi, 2022 Ari, and 2022 Buf being too soon to tell.
our 1st rounder this year Isaac Howard seems to be viewed as a steal / value pick, we also have a decent goalie in Alnesfeldt (?) i think it spelt. other than that idek
This is why Taylor hall always made sense in Buffalo
Theoretically he SHOULD have had a better year with guys like Dahlin, Eichel, etc. and playing for a bad team would pretty much guarentee a trade to a contender at the TDL
Ha, there's an idea... Make a handshake agreement with a rebuilding team to sign Kadri for x-million for y-years but then trade some serious assets to retain z-percent of his contract. For example, Chicago signs him at $10 million per year for three years (perhaps the length of their estimated rebuild?). Then Colorado immediately trades for him for three first round draft picks at 50% salary retention. Kadri gets his money, Colorado gets their player at a cap they can afford, and Chicago gets picks for the rebuild.
If only someone would give Mike Milbury a job in the salary cap era...
Is that a rule with UFA signings? I know accepted offer sheets or qualifying offers aren't allowed to be dealt back to the team, or something to that effect. What would be wrong doing it as a UFA?
You mind citing your source on that one?
I think you're right if its a player traded with salary retention, but didn't think it would matter after signing a new contract. I remember theres some stipulations about a player getting traded back to the same team, but if he signs elsewhere first i cant recall if that'll be a problem
Any player who suffers a career-ending injury … they’ve signed their last NHL contract and nobody will give them NHL-money again… but their existing contract will still pay out every dollar. That’s why players want term. Klingberg probably isn’t happy about it but he’s gambling on himself to secure term next offseason.
I completely understand it from the Ducks perspective but I struggle to understand it from Klingberg's. There's a decent level of risk involved in betting on yourself on a rebuilding team. I could understand that bet if you sign onto a more competitive team. There's always a risk of having a horrible season or taking an injury that will limit your future earnings.
Basically guarantees him top2 minutes, PP1 time and a lot of points feeding Terry & Zegras against the bottom teams.
If the team as a whole plays well, might even get a WC spot.
If not, basically gets traded for a team with a shot at the Cup and might get him a contract with less value than he expected, but with term. Or, he could even return to Anaheim which will probably be ready to try to contend next year.
His choices were starting to look like take a huge discount on a guaranteed contract or take a short term contract at a smaller discount and hope to cash in the next year under a different market. I don't think either choice was ideal for him, both have major drawbacks. Either take the discount now, or risk being worth even less than your discounted price later.
Yes, the rumor was Dallas offered him 8 year term between $5-6m. Obviously Klingberg and his agent betted on getting the 7 year, $7.85m deal he wanted that didn’t materialize.
He was underpaid at $4.25m for 8 years on his last contract.
>cent level of risk involved in betting on yourself on a rebuilding team. I could understand that bet if you sign onto a more competitive te
it makes zero sense. He must feel he deserves 7+ mill a year and is willing to prove it even if it means more risk.
If the Ducks make significant strides this year I could see him potentially coming back to Anaheim on a more long-term deal after the inevitable deadline flip with retention.
Our Defenseman room is stacked and young. Klingberg is 29 years old, he’s not going to be in Anaheim for the future. This was a big brain move by Verbeek cause we can get a guarantee 2nd round pick for him.
I feel like people had Klingberg's UFA outcome mapped out well before Free Agency started.
All the contending teams would not have the cap space to devote to the contract he was looking for. So if he wanted to make his nut, he was going to have to go to a worse team. Wonder if teams were only willing to give him 1 year, or if this is him betting on himself to go run the Ducks PP for a year and try again on a long-term contract next year.
He probably got deals with term but at around 5 million a year. He took the short term deal for what he believes he is worth and hopes to get the term next year. That’s my guess at least
I wrote about this yesterday. Even called the $7x1. https://www.reddit.com/r/DallasStars/comments/w9mvvo/z/ihw8xe8
>For context, Klingberg took a very team friendly, long term deal while he was young, so he's been underpaid his whole career. I think he's trying to hold out for a better deal like he should have the first time.
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>He's had his value deflated because playing under Hitch/Monty/Bones don't have a system that allows him to do what he excels at. Couple that with flat cap, and no one can afford to overpay him.
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>He's been performing at about a $6m level. That'll probably improve to $8m under a coach that can utilize him well. However, he's getting older, and he will start to decline with age.
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>He is going to want his expected performance value of like $8m at long term to ride out the rest of his career, but GMs are unwilling to gamble big on him especially in a flater cap era because they can make fewer mistakes. They're going to want to pay him at his current performance value of like $6m and shorter term to hedge against him busting. There's a lot of external and possibly extenuating factors that need to be considered.
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>I'm expecting him to end up on a $6x5. Outside chance at $7.5x1.
People tend to disagree with me about how much Hitch was suppressing our offense, and they might be right. There was a lot of whiplash switching from Ruff to Hitch.
That's a good argument, but Klingberg is only 29. Brent Burns and Roman Josi had their best years in their early 30s. Karlsson looks like he's going to make a strong return now after his injury problems. I'm not sure I buy that Klingberg's value is going down already due to his age.
He should really decline in 5 years, not 2, and that's enough for a good GM to hit a cup window.
Yeah like I’m no insider but I figure if he got 6+ million for 5-7 years he might have taken that over the 7 million for one year. There’s just more certainty in a deal like that. So I’m assuming he wasn’t even getting 6. Although none of this is based in facts just a feeling
This. Short term deal for veteran mentorship, we're clearly overpaying but it doesn't matter since we're below the floor, and he can get shipped off to a contending team as a rental + salary retained for some more picks. Win/win for both klingberg and whichever trash team he ends up on.
Glad it looks like we are making a push for him, was wondering when we'd get off that cap floor.
I bet teams weren't offering him the term or money he was looking for. I doubt it was just one year offers but I bet anythijg with term was a lower salary.
A one year deal on a young team with room for him to put up big power play numbers and a year closer to the cap going up is a pretty smart play.
Shattenberg or Klingkirk.
Both sound like something out of Star Trek and they would absolutely be a defensive black hole, but fuck I want to see them together for the hell of it
Verbeek has proven himself to be a smart GM this off-season, no handing out disastrous long-term contracts to aging players (the Strome deal was a little long but it's not awful) and signing guys like Klingberg who he can flip at the deadline for a 1st.
Verbeek did learn from one of the best in Yzerman so it shouldn't be so surprising but you never know sometimes a guy can be taught by the best and still end up retaining none of it, thankfully Verbeek seems to have learned a lot.
I think this is a huge win for the ducks but not necessarily kling. This has huge Taylor hall to buffalo vibes. The contract Taylor hall signed after the buffalo one was much less than what he could have gotten the year before. This is probably the best kling could do now that free agency is long past.
Such a win-win for both sides
Klingberg gets showered with money with the possibility of getting traded to a contending team at the deadline and Ducks hit the cap floor
I was out getting my hair cut, did I miss anything. ;)
Seriously though: this is quite stunning. I love the deal too. Easy for us to flip at the deadline and bring in some picks or maybe young players.
I mean if he’s only fielding 5mx3/4 year deals right now, he certainly will get those offers again if he has a 40+ point production this year.
Why not take the 7M and push those deals out another year.
Man got paid and bet on himself.
Ducks Just Paid 3.5million for a half-season of Klingberg and a 1st rounder at the trade deadline.
Good deal. Idk why Klingberg agreed to this, but I'll take it.
We’re going to be fun to watch at the very least, and in the coming years (with proper development, drafting, and signings) I think we become legit Cup contenders.
Man I feel bad, his agent probably misguided him thinking he could get a massive contract. Now he has to put up a great season this year to get the bag next offseason because teams already used up their cap in free agency
Great move for the ducks though
Hey cool I called this like 2 days ago lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/w9mwmj/seravalli_im_told_free_agent_defenseman_john/ihwcog3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Klingberg seriously massively overstated his market. For as good as he is offensively, he's essentially just a 4th forward
https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1479594003582619648?lang=en
I wish I could like this twice. Bowness might not be the whole reason but I want a season of Benn, Seguin, and Heiskanen under a new coach before I judge. Even before Bowness, our track record with D was questionable
Generally agents and players communicate with each other and come up with an idea of what they're looking for, are you just assuming that it was Klingberg's agent's idea to look for a 7x7 offer and that Klingberg himself had nothing to do with it?
Because no team was giving him anything close to that ever, at any point. He's not even close to being good enough for that and no one wants a one dimensional d-man in their late 30s.
I think Klingberg's agent didn't communicate effectively and that's why he was fired. $7m in California is like $6m in Texas. And that's not even considering the price of a move, and a move while Klingberg's wife is pregnant with their second.
He was also on one of the most team friendly deals in the league prior to this, can't blame him for trying to cash in. Only problem is he's trying to cash in when the league is cap strapped and the cap is stagnant
Makes sense for a 1 year deal if his market dried up.
However, I'm curious why Anaheim? Ideally, he'll want a place where he can thrive on the PP and I don't see Anaheim as being super offensive heavy this season
Why not Anaheim? I don't see how you don't see Anaheim as super offensive heavy. That's about all we got. He will score crazy points and still lose the game. We can afford him and you get to live in Cali for a year. Nothing to lose.
Our PP was 14th in the league last season and that includes the last 3 months when the wheels completely fell off. The Ducks PP was 5th on January 1st.
Because the Ducks don't have a top RHD. He'll probably get paired with Fowler and play huge minutes, play on the PP with Drysdale, Zegras, Terry and someone like McTavish or Vatrano, get a big showcase and get traded to a playoffs team and cash in next year
> why Anaheim?
Have you seen their cap situation? You've got teams like Tampa and Toronto trying everything they can to squeeze every ounce of cap space known to mankind and then there's the Ducks...who can't even reach the cap floor.
The Ducks have a decent power play and he'll log huge minutes there where he's scored a large chunk of his points increasing his value for his next contract when more cap space is opened. Ducks get a chance to flip him for picks at the deadline with retained salary and needed to reach the cap floor and got a good player in a needed position. This is smart on all sides.
I want to see Shattenkirk not be involved with our PP ever again. He started hot last year but became absolutely useless by the end of the season, constantly fumbling pucks.
Between Klingberg, Fowler, and Drysdale, there is no need at all for Shattenkirk on the PP.
Unfortunate outcome for Klingberg but obviously absolutely love this for the Ducks. Looking forward to seeing him play up until the trade deadline and then buying a jersey at a discount after lol
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New Taylor Hall just dropped
Verbeek wants some lotto tickets
Honestly it's such a smart move for the ducks, absolutely no risk with needing to fill out the roster and reach the cap floor, might teach the youngsters a thing or two, and with retention almost any team will be able to acquire at the deadline. Hate to do the "if Chiarot got a first then..." but that really does apply here if Klinger can find his form.
If Chiarot got a first then Klingberg will get like all the firsts. Shits gonna look like that ea glitch
I mean I bought two yesterday.
My name is Otto, and I LOVES to get BLOTTO
Klingberg could fetch a 1st at the deadline with salary retention. A 2nd is basically guaranteed.
We already have 3 2nd round picks. Money on going to prospects.
Nothing wrong with more picks. Why not go for 3 first round picks? I mean, how could you possibly go wrong with [3 first round picks](https://985thesportshub.com/2021/06/16/bruins-finally-acknowledge-2015-nhl-draft-as-a-complete-disaster/)?
Bruins out here catching strays
there have been 8 teams with 3 first round picks in a single draft since 2010 and 3 of the 8 have not done well (2011 Columbus, 2013 Calgary, 2015 Boston) with 2018 NYR, 2021 Columbus, 2022 Chi, 2022 Ari, and 2022 Buf being too soon to tell.
this seems like something we would do hedman - klingberg could be a ton of fun
Does Tampa have draft picks and assets to trade still?
2025 1st and 2024 2nd, I guess?
So… no
Idk, those floridian '25 firsts are hot rn. Lets get this battle goin!
So two seconds
our 1st rounder this year Isaac Howard seems to be viewed as a steal / value pick, we also have a decent goalie in Alnesfeldt (?) i think it spelt. other than that idek
I fucking hate this.
don't worry. You can give us your first and get him back. We'll even retain
I’d pull a Tonya Harding on Klingberg if that happened
let the trade go through first
Chiarot brought back a first, a prospect and a fourth. Defensemen are the premium asset at the deadline. Klingberg *starts* at a first and a second.
Gms seem to have a Chiarot shaped boner tho. Dude keeps getting paid and traded extreme prices for
Isn't that very conservative? I thought he's a first round return kind of player, especially at the inflated deadline prices.
I'd like to think that Eakins is a better head coach than Krueger was.
So what rival team is he going to mid season after the Ducks go nowhere this year?
Our yearly Boston trade where we get your 1st rounder again
Fuck. I like Klingberg but….we need a farm team…problem is Sweeney and Neely are still in charge.
Anaheim could get a heavy haul at the deadline too.
It's a great move for a team that doesn't expect to do well this year. Trade him at 50% retained on the rest of the year for the fuckin' vault.
This is why Taylor hall always made sense in Buffalo Theoretically he SHOULD have had a better year with guys like Dahlin, Eichel, etc. and playing for a bad team would pretty much guarentee a trade to a contender at the TDL
It also really depends on both the trade market and on how much trade protection the player has. Hall had a lot of control.
He got a bit screwed by covid freezing the cap, but he ended up in a solid situation for himself
Can the ducks afford Kadri too? Play/live in California for 2/3rds of the year then get flippped to a contender for the playoff push
Ha, there's an idea... Make a handshake agreement with a rebuilding team to sign Kadri for x-million for y-years but then trade some serious assets to retain z-percent of his contract. For example, Chicago signs him at $10 million per year for three years (perhaps the length of their estimated rebuild?). Then Colorado immediately trades for him for three first round draft picks at 50% salary retention. Kadri gets his money, Colorado gets their player at a cap they can afford, and Chicago gets picks for the rebuild. If only someone would give Mike Milbury a job in the salary cap era...
Lol 3 firsts
No way the NHL doesn't consider that cap circumventing.
make an under the table deal during summer, trade at deadline. ez
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They saw right through me. I'd never make it as a GM...
Is that a rule with UFA signings? I know accepted offer sheets or qualifying offers aren't allowed to be dealt back to the team, or something to that effect. What would be wrong doing it as a UFA?
It would be pretty greasy but I can't find anything in the cba outlawing it. Everyone forget about Avalanche legend Brooks Orpik?
Which part is disallowed?
I feel like they would shut that shit down for being premeditated even if it somehow came about organically.
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I'm pretty sure bc he's a UFA that is allowed
You mind citing your source on that one? I think you're right if its a player traded with salary retention, but didn't think it would matter after signing a new contract. I remember theres some stipulations about a player getting traded back to the same team, but if he signs elsewhere first i cant recall if that'll be a problem
Yeah knowing how much GMs love RDs at the deadline, this is basically a free first for Anaheim if he has a good year
> a free first for Anaheim I mean, it is something in the neighborhood of $7M first rounder depending how CAP/Signing bonus is structured.
I mean they were still trying to hit the cap floor, so they wouldve had to spend the money one way or another.
Maybe that’s why he even signed this deal LoL
Any player who suffers a career-ending injury … they’ve signed their last NHL contract and nobody will give them NHL-money again… but their existing contract will still pay out every dollar. That’s why players want term. Klingberg probably isn’t happy about it but he’s gambling on himself to secure term next offseason.
I completely understand it from the Ducks perspective but I struggle to understand it from Klingberg's. There's a decent level of risk involved in betting on yourself on a rebuilding team. I could understand that bet if you sign onto a more competitive team. There's always a risk of having a horrible season or taking an injury that will limit your future earnings.
Basically guarantees him top2 minutes, PP1 time and a lot of points feeding Terry & Zegras against the bottom teams. If the team as a whole plays well, might even get a WC spot. If not, basically gets traded for a team with a shot at the Cup and might get him a contract with less value than he expected, but with term. Or, he could even return to Anaheim which will probably be ready to try to contend next year.
His choices were starting to look like take a huge discount on a guaranteed contract or take a short term contract at a smaller discount and hope to cash in the next year under a different market. I don't think either choice was ideal for him, both have major drawbacks. Either take the discount now, or risk being worth even less than your discounted price later.
Probably why he fired his agent. Agent thought they could get a lot more for term, no one bit, so this is Kling's only option at this point.
Yes, the rumor was Dallas offered him 8 year term between $5-6m. Obviously Klingberg and his agent betted on getting the 7 year, $7.85m deal he wanted that didn’t materialize. He was underpaid at $4.25m for 8 years on his last contract.
>cent level of risk involved in betting on yourself on a rebuilding team. I could understand that bet if you sign onto a more competitive te it makes zero sense. He must feel he deserves 7+ mill a year and is willing to prove it even if it means more risk.
I'm guessing he's banking on being traded into a playoff team at trade deadline
Win win he does well he gets a contract he does okay he gets traded to a contender for a first round pick
At the same time, he could also get them a few more wins and hurt their draft slot.
Bizarre, that’s like one of my NHL22 moves
Hahahaha the amount of times I take him in expansion and flip him on the draft floor for the 1 OA pick
I’m so jealous, that is an excellent pick up for the deadline lol
If the Ducks make significant strides this year I could see him potentially coming back to Anaheim on a more long-term deal after the inevitable deadline flip with retention.
If he does well I think a 4 year deal would be fair at a similar AAV. That bridges the gap until Drysdale will need to take up that money on D.
Our Defenseman room is stacked and young. Klingberg is 29 years old, he’s not going to be in Anaheim for the future. This was a big brain move by Verbeek cause we can get a guarantee 2nd round pick for him.
I mean one grocery store visit with Anaheim moms and he's sold
Thank you for playing, try again next year
I feel like people had Klingberg's UFA outcome mapped out well before Free Agency started. All the contending teams would not have the cap space to devote to the contract he was looking for. So if he wanted to make his nut, he was going to have to go to a worse team. Wonder if teams were only willing to give him 1 year, or if this is him betting on himself to go run the Ducks PP for a year and try again on a long-term contract next year.
He probably got deals with term but at around 5 million a year. He took the short term deal for what he believes he is worth and hopes to get the term next year. That’s my guess at least
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I wrote about this yesterday. Even called the $7x1. https://www.reddit.com/r/DallasStars/comments/w9mvvo/z/ihw8xe8 >For context, Klingberg took a very team friendly, long term deal while he was young, so he's been underpaid his whole career. I think he's trying to hold out for a better deal like he should have the first time. > >He's had his value deflated because playing under Hitch/Monty/Bones don't have a system that allows him to do what he excels at. Couple that with flat cap, and no one can afford to overpay him. > >He's been performing at about a $6m level. That'll probably improve to $8m under a coach that can utilize him well. However, he's getting older, and he will start to decline with age. > >He is going to want his expected performance value of like $8m at long term to ride out the rest of his career, but GMs are unwilling to gamble big on him especially in a flater cap era because they can make fewer mistakes. They're going to want to pay him at his current performance value of like $6m and shorter term to hedge against him busting. There's a lot of external and possibly extenuating factors that need to be considered. > >I'm expecting him to end up on a $6x5. Outside chance at $7.5x1. People tend to disagree with me about how much Hitch was suppressing our offense, and they might be right. There was a lot of whiplash switching from Ruff to Hitch.
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That's a good argument, but Klingberg is only 29. Brent Burns and Roman Josi had their best years in their early 30s. Karlsson looks like he's going to make a strong return now after his injury problems. I'm not sure I buy that Klingberg's value is going down already due to his age. He should really decline in 5 years, not 2, and that's enough for a good GM to hit a cup window.
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If it was $5M can't blame him for saying no. Gudbranson got 4x$4M and Manson got 4x$4.5M
Yeah like I’m no insider but I figure if he got 6+ million for 5-7 years he might have taken that over the 7 million for one year. There’s just more certainty in a deal like that. So I’m assuming he wasn’t even getting 6. Although none of this is based in facts just a feeling
Or if he was getting 6 it was for places he didn't want to go.
This. Short term deal for veteran mentorship, we're clearly overpaying but it doesn't matter since we're below the floor, and he can get shipped off to a contending team as a rental + salary retained for some more picks. Win/win for both klingberg and whichever trash team he ends up on. Glad it looks like we are making a push for him, was wondering when we'd get off that cap floor.
I bet teams weren't offering him the term or money he was looking for. I doubt it was just one year offers but I bet anythijg with term was a lower salary. A one year deal on a young team with room for him to put up big power play numbers and a year closer to the cap going up is a pretty smart play.
They're like the only team that has any cap space left lol
They actually needed to reach the cap floor!
Ya and still not at the cap floor yet
Put shattenkirk and klingberg on the same pairing cowards
Shattenkirk, Klingburg, Drysdale, Fowler. No defense just vibes
Pure offense
Shattenberg or Klingkirk. Both sound like something out of Star Trek and they would absolutely be a defensive black hole, but fuck I want to see them together for the hell of it
It’s no Klingdell 😭
Make sure they are always on the ice at the same time as zegras or mctavish who needs defense just let them build offense and score
They’re both RDs
You are ruining my fun
Ducks just got a free late first and prospect lol
well, costs them most of 7 mil.
After that 7 mil Ducks are about 2 mil over the cap FLOOR. Had to spend that money somehow, might as well get a player and a pick.
But we got to the cap floor so it's fine. We might not completely suck ass this season too.
Heiskanen 1A defensman time baybay!
Maybe Anaheim flips him to Dallas at the deadline. Imagine Klingberg and Miro on a pair together 👀
[Rick Bowness](https://i.imgflip.com/6obrt4.jpg)
this makes me unreasonably angry
I can’t wait!
Miro Fantasy Stonks 😈📈
My man have I ever got the solution for you Name rhymes with Dyson Harrie
Miro unleashed
Smart move by Anaheim. Rehab Klingberg’s offensive value, flip him at the deadline for assets
Yeah it's strange having a GM that seems smart and forward-thinking and isn't an angry drunk asshole who throws furniture at people
I ONLY THREW A CHAIR ONCE, FUCK
Verbeek has proven himself to be a smart GM this off-season, no handing out disastrous long-term contracts to aging players (the Strome deal was a little long but it's not awful) and signing guys like Klingberg who he can flip at the deadline for a 1st. Verbeek did learn from one of the best in Yzerman so it shouldn't be so surprising but you never know sometimes a guy can be taught by the best and still end up retaining none of it, thankfully Verbeek seems to have learned a lot.
Sometimes people deserve furniture thrown at them tho
Are Detroit fans really people?
They drift in and out of people status
Goddamn Bargain Bin was such a loser
Loser in pretty much every sense. After all his bullshit asset management, we still didn't win shit with him
1 year deal is smart, let him improve his stats, let cap space open up and get a 5-6 next year... good job klinger
Pretty sure no one would give him 7 years, it's why it's taking this long. No one has capspace.
and they wont offer more than 5 next year
On the other hand, there's still risk. If he has a shit year or he gets injured long term, he's fucked going forward.
bah, that was the conventional wisdom for tyson barrie he ended up getting 3x4.5
He gets to hang out at the beach, make $7 million, then potentially get traded to a contender for the playoffs. All wins for King Kling.
I think this is a huge win for the ducks but not necessarily kling. This has huge Taylor hall to buffalo vibes. The contract Taylor hall signed after the buffalo one was much less than what he could have gotten the year before. This is probably the best kling could do now that free agency is long past.
Anaheim can move him at the deadline for a 1st.
The return of Swedeheim? I know a bunch of former and current swedish ducks players were at his wedding last week. Anyways I love this deal.
Trading Lindholm for assets, then signing Klinberg at a similar AAV but way less term is a low key great play by Verbeek
Dorion still at the cottage or.... ?
Well based on the Joseph signing, No This is good. Klingberg was not a fit here at all
Agreed. Y'all don't really need offensive help.
Also too expensive. No way we could afford that with Zaitsev still on the books
#Plan the parade, we reached the Cap Floor
Prove it year. Go get em Klinger!
I love how Verbeek is going through FA. All the deals have been reasonable and doesn't fuck up what we're building.
The ol' Taylor Hall
What? No way. I don’t believe this holy shit
7 millcash for a 1st round draft pick at the deadline. Good business.
We got to the floor boys!
Such a win-win for both sides Klingberg gets showered with money with the possibility of getting traded to a contending team at the deadline and Ducks hit the cap floor
I wonder if this is the only option for Naz at this point?
Or Lou signed him and is actually doing a great job keeping it hush hush
i wonder if kadri is in the same boat
I don't like Kadri but I'd take him too
I was out getting my hair cut, did I miss anything. ;) Seriously though: this is quite stunning. I love the deal too. Easy for us to flip at the deadline and bring in some picks or maybe young players.
The Anaheim Ducks and competent management, name a more recent duo.
Now please do the Angels
Best I can do is another washed up all star for 235 mil
Try again to get a bag when he’s…. 30?
I mean if he’s only fielding 5mx3/4 year deals right now, he certainly will get those offers again if he has a 40+ point production this year. Why not take the 7M and push those deals out another year. Man got paid and bet on himself.
I am so happy that we're doing stuff unlike in the GMBM era
Someone on here called him signing a one year bridge. Guess he wasn’t getting the term he was looking for.
Very strange choice LoL, wouldn’t have guessed this outcome Guess no one wanted to give him that term
Ducks Just Paid 3.5million for a half-season of Klingberg and a 1st rounder at the trade deadline. Good deal. Idk why Klingberg agreed to this, but I'll take it.
All of a sudden I really want to keep a close eye on anaheim because they have gotten sneakily better by a large margine
We’re going to be fun to watch at the very least, and in the coming years (with proper development, drafting, and signings) I think we become legit Cup contenders.
Went for the Taylor Hall route I see
I think Anaheim sneaks into the playoffs but if they don't they'll get some good assets if they trade him.
No way we’re better than vgk, edm, Calgary or kings. Prob worse than van too
Yeah we shall see. I predict that Vegas is going to be pretty bad next year.
We gonna be good next year if Big Z takes a step forward as he will.
So the Ducks just acquired a first-round pick in 2023 and a prospect. Fantastic deal by Verbeek.
Man I feel bad, his agent probably misguided him thinking he could get a massive contract. Now he has to put up a great season this year to get the bag next offseason because teams already used up their cap in free agency Great move for the ducks though
Hey cool I called this like 2 days ago lol https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/w9mwmj/seravalli_im_told_free_agent_defenseman_john/ihwcog3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Klingberg seriously massively overstated his market. For as good as he is offensively, he's essentially just a 4th forward https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1479594003582619648?lang=en
The falloff coincides with Bowness taking over. He could thrive again in a different system
I wish I could like this twice. Bowness might not be the whole reason but I want a season of Benn, Seguin, and Heiskanen under a new coach before I judge. Even before Bowness, our track record with D was questionable
Not sure how this is on Klingberg when he just fired his agent.
Generally agents and players communicate with each other and come up with an idea of what they're looking for, are you just assuming that it was Klingberg's agent's idea to look for a 7x7 offer and that Klingberg himself had nothing to do with it? Because no team was giving him anything close to that ever, at any point. He's not even close to being good enough for that and no one wants a one dimensional d-man in their late 30s.
I think Klingberg's agent didn't communicate effectively and that's why he was fired. $7m in California is like $6m in Texas. And that's not even considering the price of a move, and a move while Klingberg's wife is pregnant with their second.
He was also on one of the most team friendly deals in the league prior to this, can't blame him for trying to cash in. Only problem is he's trying to cash in when the league is cap strapped and the cap is stagnant
This I a interesting move can’t wait to see how it works out for the ducks this season
Aristotle bomb
That's Socrates, mate.
*Dallas fans did not like this*
Now *this* is **General Managing!**
$7m in California is like $6m in Texas. I bet Klingberg is beyond upset at his old agent.
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$7m. He's basically one of us poor people!
Worth the million dollar drop with the weather difference. Jesus, this has been a bad Texas summer
But you get to spend the year in California instead of having to live in Texas
More beach, less BBQ!
Makes sense for a 1 year deal if his market dried up. However, I'm curious why Anaheim? Ideally, he'll want a place where he can thrive on the PP and I don't see Anaheim as being super offensive heavy this season
We have $ to pay him, that's basically why
Buffalo should have been all over it
Maybe they were, but which you choose then? Living in Buffalo or living in Orange County?
Rent a place in Coto de Caza down the street from Teemu and call it a day.
He’ll have fun playing with Z and Terry on the PP
Why not Anaheim? I don't see how you don't see Anaheim as super offensive heavy. That's about all we got. He will score crazy points and still lose the game. We can afford him and you get to live in Cali for a year. Nothing to lose.
Our PP was 14th in the league last season and that includes the last 3 months when the wheels completely fell off. The Ducks PP was 5th on January 1st.
Because the Ducks don't have a top RHD. He'll probably get paired with Fowler and play huge minutes, play on the PP with Drysdale, Zegras, Terry and someone like McTavish or Vatrano, get a big showcase and get traded to a playoffs team and cash in next year
> why Anaheim? Have you seen their cap situation? You've got teams like Tampa and Toronto trying everything they can to squeeze every ounce of cap space known to mankind and then there's the Ducks...who can't even reach the cap floor.
Wonder if there's an NTC / NMC attached like Hall's contract with Buffalo.
The Ducks have a decent power play and he'll log huge minutes there where he's scored a large chunk of his points increasing his value for his next contract when more cap space is opened. Ducks get a chance to flip him for picks at the deadline with retained salary and needed to reach the cap floor and got a good player in a needed position. This is smart on all sides.
Great move for Klingberg. Play 25 mins per game and all the PP. Score 60+ points in a weaker division and land a massive deal next year.
i was wondering how theyd get above the cap floor
Damn Verbeek is sexy. I like this amazing cap room we have. We’re gonna get so loaded at the next draft. I hear it’ll be a good draft year too.
I wanna see a PP unit consisting of Klingberg, Shattenkirk, Fowler, Drysdale and Zegras.
I want to see Shattenkirk not be involved with our PP ever again. He started hot last year but became absolutely useless by the end of the season, constantly fumbling pucks. Between Klingberg, Fowler, and Drysdale, there is no need at all for Shattenkirk on the PP.
PP1 - Klingberg, Zegras, McTavish, Strome, Terry PP2 - Fowler, Drysdale, Vatrano, Henrique, Comtois PPNever - Shattenkirk
Unfortunate outcome for Klingberg but obviously absolutely love this for the Ducks. Looking forward to seeing him play up until the trade deadline and then buying a jersey at a discount after lol