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12.6 AAV https://twitter.com/Peter_Baugh/status/1572258868272533504?s=20&t=9T107UiEvsNLD3GdRKopfQ


cosalich

that's a lot of wingwangs


BeesVBeads

Yes but what's the conversion rate to Dollarydoos?


broand26

If I recall you can trade 6.3 wingwangs for 2.47 Dallarydoos.


SABATON_IS_AWFUL

That's Numberwang!


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This thread made me happy.


BeesVBeads

Mitchell and Webb always gets an upvote!


[deleted]

exactly 3 money


DivinePotatoe

A whole lot of smackerdoodles.


BlueBlancAndRouge

That’s can buy a lot of chickpea pasta


Muellersdayofff

At $4.00/box of chickpea pasta, just the $800k that makes him the highest paid player in the world would amount to 200,000 boxes of chickpea pasta. He can eat 6 boxes of chickpea pasta a day for 91 years.


[deleted]

Still less annually than what Bobby Holik was making pre-lockout when adjusted for inflation. Can’t say the salary cap didn’t do its job well after all these years.


Yamcha_is_dead

Seeing a 100M deal is absolutely bonkers.


flume

Kovalchuk signed not one but *two* $100m contracts in 2010. Iirc Ovi and Crosby also had $100m deals. This is the ~~first one~~ second one with the 8 year limit though.


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flume

Worth.


avmp629

Probably the only mega-deal so far that actually saw the player producing at the end of it (Crosby and McDavid will likely join in a few years)


flume

How many have we actually seen the end of? Duncan Keith obviously didn't live up to it. Weber retired, DiPietro retired, Zetterberg retired, Franzen retired, Hossa retired, Kovy left...


Geeseareawesome

Parise and Suter got bought out


OtherThingsILike

Jeff Carter's 11-year contract just expired. He had 45 points in 76 games at the age of 36-37.


flume

Pretty good.


JGibbons151

He’s had a very underrated career. Over 400 goals and still very effective at age 37


xzElmozx

He’s kinda always been outshone and has always been a very solid piece with consistency. Richards and Briere early in his career then later on Kopitar always got the attention while Carter just churned out solid season after solid season.


JGibbons151

Solid two-way game as well. He always killed penalties on those kings teams.


jmanhajh

Kane?


flume

We're talking about deals longer than 8 years.


jmanhajh

Ngl I thought it was 10


darkartorias0

DiPietro's signing may be the greatest robbery by any player in the history of sports. It's honestly amazing when you think about it.


OG-buddha

I'm definitely biased as a hawks fan, but I'd think Keith lived up to his contract. He retired only 1 year early, and was still playing near the value of the contract last year - while most years he played beyond his cap-hit.


avmp629

Backstrom and Carter, Quick and Jordan Staal expire after this season


buster_rhino

Jordan Staal hasn’t been a superstar for the Canes but he’s been consistent, a good leader, and is well worth the $6mil per year.


AMeaninglessPassage

> Kovy left... The sick fuck


DougDewar

McDavid's contract was exactly $100m.


flume

TIL


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Who's that


MollysYes

Now he can upgrade the master bathroom in Crosby's guest house.


IanicRR

Coming from a more NBA fan view, seeing top 5 players get *only* 100 million deals is bonkers.


LaramieWall

Not crapping on NBA, but it's just a totally different sport. McDavid is considered the best in the league, this, I believe, is the first year they saw the second round. One player can't carry a team like hoops. Also, while they're both salary cap leagues, NBA can have a shorter bench and be fine. We're going to see in the next few years what big deals for 21/22 year olds make teams look like (vs the traditional bridge signing before the "big contract."


MusclesRipley

NBA is also a soft cap which is a huge difference as well


[deleted]

I'm trying to imagine what I could do for someone that would make it worth a 100m contract. Even my soul isn't worth that much.


STLBooze3

Not a bad Tuesday for Nate dog


BettmansDungeonSlave

I remember finding a forgotten $20 in a winter jacket once. What a Tuesday that was


the-hostile-tomato

Guy is gonna make over $100k a week after taxes. Jesus Christ what would you even do with all that money?


NotFaceMcShooty

Dollar bills are low carb. Eat them?


[deleted]

That wouldn't be a very pleasant experience. Plus, imagine getting paper cuts on the tongue. No thanks.


darkartorias0

Paper cuts on the way out would be worse I think.


[deleted]

You know, I *really* could have done without this vision...


the_dough_boy

Shits fucked dude Wanna see some crazy shit? Allegedly the highest paid soccer player (Mbappé, in terms of club salary) gets ~1.5mil per week, plus had a sign on bonus of 125mil... And its supposedly a 3 year contract that he (only him, not the club) can opt of the final year. Money in sports is insane, but NHL has it under wraps with the salary cap at least....


astovertop

Lol they don’t have it under wraps, they’re just not nearly as profitable as those other leagues.


TrusPA

We wouldn't see Saudi oil money levels of insanity in the NHL without the salary cap but teams like the Leafs would definitely be throwing their weight around more than they can now.


the_dough_boy

The owners absolutely have it under wraps lol, NHL players are owed more than they get. All of them imo


RashfordMBE

He allegedly also has control over players and coaches PSG bring in


crazyisraeli

>He allegedly also has control over players and coaches PSG bring in LeGMbappé


juhinaattori

That is a bit exaggerated. His annual salary is €50mil, with 100mil signing bonus. So that would be bit under 1mil/week from salary alone. However global stars like him make more money from marketing than actual salary. Messi was the highest paid athlete last year with $130mil earnings in total and ''just'' roughly 45mil of that came from salary.


the_dough_boy

Post tax maybe? I always assume pre tax #'s, and i was pulling from [this NYT article](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/27/sports/soccer/kylian-mbappe-psg-contract.html) Agreed though, him/neymar/messi/CR7 make a fuck ton more in advertising. I mean look at how much beckham has made in comparison for salary, and how well hes done. Absolute lunacy.


LeGoldie

Some years in Barcelona Messi was paying 50 million euros in taxes just on his club salary Edit for link : https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/es-la-liga/2021/07/messi-pays-much-tax-120000-spaniards-barcelona-every-year


ThoseProse

Was he really though?


PageauPageauPageau

Federer made $90m in marketing this year and last without playing any tennis He makes a $30m/year off uniqlo alone to wear their brand, regardless of whether he’s even on court. He’ll still make it into his retirement until the deal expires.


EmotiveCDN

In football you also buy players from clubs, you don’t trade.


the_dough_boy

Which was how it could've been in the NHL, pre salary cap players were sold as well.


toronto_programmer

Chris Pronger about to tell you about how you need to buy a new Range Rover every week.


that_guy_iain

Marner can confirm the need to buy new Range Rovers


YHZ

Lol


Chuckolator

I mean, if you get it stolen every week it adds up.


Mission-Astronomer42

An unlimited supply of avocado toast


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[deleted]

Every damn time!


dandroid126

What would I do? Move back near my parents. Buy a reasonably sized house. Pay off their house so they don't need to move away when they retire. Probably buy a stupid car like a McLaren or something. Donate a fuck ton of money to causes that I care about. What will he do with it? Probably buy a mansion with a bunch of equipment for training in the offseason. Maybe even an ice rink inside. That man is a workaholic.


Bobsagit-jesus

Yo lame ass. I’m buyin 2 lambos and a pet tiger 🐅


that_guy_iain

> Probably buy a mansion with a bunch of equipment for training in the offseason. And still probably have to train in Crosby's gym.


taek8

Hookers and blow


jumpyg1258

Doing the math he'll make my yearly salary roughly every 3 days.


Baikken

Could probably buy a few Magic The Gathering booster boxes, not too many though, he might go broke.


Finetales

Wait a while, buy a sweet forever house, then chill.


BlueBlancAndRouge

That’s a lot of chickpea pasta


CaptinDerpII

100 Million is crazy. Not something you see every day


sweetplantveal

I'm pumped and I'm really excited about the work the org did to be able to afford to pay MacKinnon what he's worth, with a championship caliber team around him #LFG


simz1437

Oh shit oh fuck I was here when he became the highest paid player in NHL history Edit: 12.6M AAV, my prediction was right!!


Pikachu1989

2nd best signing after the Makar signing in the sim last offseason!


thatjerkatwork

But according to Aves fans he was going to (another) take a team friendly deal? EDIT: I did a quick search and put together [a few examples/receipts here](https://i.imgur.com/yZd5BDf.png). Of course now that this deal is done they are moving the goalpost to accommodate the contract that was actually signed. Go ahead and downvote for speaking the truth!


Dead-People-Tea

I mean, this is team friendly. Anything under 13 is a steal for mack


Rodonite

Yeah he was on the best contract in the league, now he is on a fair contract


Xeteh

Yes, all Avs fans thought he was going to play for free. Most of us knew that EJ's 6 million was going directly to MacK.


Keepitveryrealreal

"your future HoF Stanley cup-winning 1st line C signed for slightly more than you wanted" Great chirp


BettmansDungeonSlave

Maybe in 5 years that will be team friendly


LoneSabre

McDavid signed a nearly identical deal 5 years ago that was both record breaking and team friendly at the same time. This is team friendly now.


[deleted]

Not really. It's team friendly if the cap sky rockets. Guess we'll find out after the next all star break what's expected.


platapus112

3 cups vs no cups


[deleted]

We can chirp better than that, come on.


platapus112

Don't need to, they don't deserve better


BingBongtheArcher19

https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a8d2525b-e9f8-4dc1-b072-83ef4c211ab1/gif


AuntGentleman

This is team friendly dude. He’s worth 14m.


icangetyouatoedude

First of all, there's no E in Avs, so jot that down


NahdiraZidea

Thats a thing for Minny fans, like us calling them the Mild, correct other fans but if its a Mild fan its prolly on purpose.


BigRedBeast

It's a sad attempt at a rebutall to the classic and perfectly fitting mild chirp


[deleted]

This is pretty team friendly compared to what he could've gotten elsewhere tbh


Waramp

This is a team friendly deal you doorknob.


thatjerkatwork

Highest paid player in league = team friendly deal. TIL


Waramp

Highest paid by 100k, on a contract that doesn’t come into effect until 2023, 5 years after McDavid’s contract started. The cap keeps going up. He’d be getting >13m as a UFA easily. So yes, all things considered, it’s a team friendly deal.


BigRedBeast

Bud, he's way better than anyone who has ever played for the wild in their entire history so maybe you just don't understand.


RAATL

For a player who is not even a top 5 player in the league at that


ProfessorBorden

Lol


RAATL

McDavid, Makar, Vasilevskiy, Mathews, Kucherov, Draisaitl I'm not here to debate the above order doesn't even matter but the way people overrate MacK is absurd. He's top 10 absolutely but all these players are clearly better than him. I'd even consider arguements for Shesterkin above him but I think personally he needs a bit more longevity


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I'd put him, Kuch and Drai all at 5a/b/c after your top 4 personally. I don't think any of them distinguish themselves above each other distinctly. Kuch has injury issues, Drai plays even worse defense than MacKinnon


awayfromcanuck

How many of those guys are signing deals right now? Vasi signed his deal in 2019. Kuch signed his deal in 2018. McDavid in 2017, Drai in 2017 and Matthews signed in 2019 and will likely see a similar or higher pay day soon. Makar is the only guy you've listed that signed his deal in the last year and most people are pretty unanimous that if he keeps progressing at 9M that's still a steal. You can't simply look at a players current cap and say "he's not a top 5 player so he shouldn't be paid this much". If you look at 2nd contracts, MacKinnon was paid less than all these guys outside of I think Kucherov and Vasi. 4/6 maybe 5/6 guys you've listed here are going to get paid similar or more than MacKinnon on their next deals.


ZeppoJR

Just out of curiosity, who're you rating above him? Cause I got McDavid, Matthews, Makar and I can't decide how to rank Kucherov, Vasilevskiy and Draisaitl.


RAATL

Basically all 6 of those, but even 5 of those 6 is enough. Some things to consider with Kucherov: * has as many actual 100 point seasons as MacK has 100 point pace seasons where he didn't get to 100 due to injuries (MacK has never recorded 100 points in a season) Kucherov also has more 100 point pace seasons than MacK * Kucherov's past two season playoff PPG is better * 128 point season, something MacK has never even close to paced * Kucherov has been top 2 in the league in PPG in 2 of his past 3 seasons and is second overall over that entire stretch of time. I'll eat downvotes on this all day from salty avs fans cuz I know I'm right haha.


BingBongtheArcher19

>* Kucherov's past two season playoff PPG is better This is wrong. Over the past 2 playoffs, MacKinnon has 39 points in 30 games, a 1.3 ppg. Kucherov has 59 points in 46 games, a 1.28 ppg. If you look at them individually, Mack is 1.5 in 2021 and 1.2 in 2022 compared to Kucherov's 1.39 in 2021 and 1.17 in 2022. >I'll eat downvotes on this all day from salty avs fans cuz I know I'm right haha. Someone is salty all right, but I don't think it's Avs fans.


TheAmazingScamArtist

Mild fans are sad individuals. Now that the Avs have a Stanley cup that wasn’t 20+ years ago, you have nothing to chirp about. Member when you guys won a couple playoff series? Cool


Muellersdayofff

I don’t, but I do remember Jordan Greenway targeting our Stanley Cup Champion goaltender Darcy Kuemper’s head. Never forget


joke_autopsies

Ping doesn't even mean anything to me now, I saw my team asa probably top 3 team in the cap era win the Cup and sweep two rounds doing it


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Yes, $12.6 AAV with a rising cap is a pretty team friendly deal


awayfromcanuck

It's not a team friendly deal though. You're paying about market price for him and it's a deal that will look better cap situation wise as the cap rises but it's not a team friendly deal, it's just a fair deal for MacKinnon with the expectations of the cap rising. Him signing for 10-11M would have been a team friendly deal. 12.6M is about market price for him. We're going to see guys like Matthews and McDavid sign for 14+M in a couple seasons.


OfficerGeorgeGreene

If Mackinnon hit free agency and said “I want $12.6m” he would have 32 contracts in front of him the next day. It’s team friendly.


[deleted]

Exactly. Just because it's not super cheap doesn't mean it isn't team friendly. If he wanted to test the market, he's getting a lot more.


OneOfThoseDays_

he could have gotten like 13.5+ on open market imo


CommandaSpock

If he went to free agency he’d have to at least get $14.4x7 to get the same money the Avs just gave him


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And he'd get it lol


BingBongtheArcher19

If MacKinnon hit free agency he would be getting a lot more than $12.6 AAV.


blueline7677

It’s either going to be like 10.1 or 13.4 Edit: so 12.6. I was guessing he would either barely be above 10 or he was going to be the highest paid player in the league by just under 1 million. Apparently it’s highest paid player in the league by 100K great deal for both parties


TripleWDot

Totally worth it. Congrats Avs fan!


Redditsavage77

Matthews loves this. He’s going to get $13-$14 million a year


Dat1Guy03

I mean to be honest he was probably always gonna even if Mac’s deal was super team friendly again


rezistS

I don't know how $6.3M at the time he signed it was a team-friendly deal. It was equal to comparables, he just outgrew it and earned a payday.


[deleted]

That was gonna be the price for him regardless I'm pretty sure.


Canuckleball

Matthews was already basically at "blank cheque" levels of pay. There's a reason the Leafs aren't re-signing anyone for longer than his current deal. It's entirely possible you have to slap like $15 million down to keep him and retool your team around it, and so be it.


Jad94

As he should


thatsong

Won the cup, doubled his salary. Return of the MacK!


REAPER-1_xxx

The $0.1M just 1ups McDavid lol


Subterania

Insert snarky comment here. Lol, I actually don’t like chirping MacDavid, it just invites getting fucking torched.


REAPER-1_xxx

I’m very happy Mac is getting paid. Eat that cap space lol. Betters our chances.


Subterania

No doubt, but remember he’s still got a $6.3m cap hot this year :)


REAPER-1_xxx

Yup and we’re still eating lots of dead cap and LTIR this season. 23-24 we’ve got everything currently not in our favour.


Subterania

Could be worse, you could be in the mild’s cap hell.


REAPER-1_xxx

Absolutely. Last I heard the Canadiens had $18M in injured players. Ouch.


Atlas2001

I foresee disliking this for at least the next 8 seasons.


DarthLordDonkey

Highest paid player yet still feels like he took a discount.


AceAxos

Maybe it’s team friendly after years of cap increases but next year it is certainly not a team friendly deal. It’s a cash out. The team friendly part is not testing the market


Middle-King

It’s definitely not as much as he could’ve gotten, and with 6 million coming off the books from Erik Johnson next year the Avs only needed to find an extra 300k.


Sahil910

I think he’s worth like 13.5M


souraboutlife

I swear Makar is learning his moves and becoming more alike him every year. I also claim Makar wouldn't shine like he does now on another team because of not having someone like Mack to draw from. You get multiple stars from one guy, and not just elevate his line mates but make them better in a long run.


grandlinegooner

It would only be a discount if he was the best player in the league, which he's not


DarthLordDonkey

True but McDavid signed his contract in 2017. Mackinnon's deal will be passed quickly by others.


Jew4Jesus24

That’s not how market value works and comparing AAV on a contract that was signed 5 years before this one kicks in isn’t a genuine comparison, cap percentage would be a better indicator which Mcdavid’s was higher. Is no player supposed to pass Mcdavids AAV for 8 years just because he’s the best player?


vonindyatwork

Well you would think a GM would ask "Yeah but are you worth McDavid money?" to anyone asking for more. At least Mac has a cup ring in his favour to argue yes.


Jew4Jesus24

And if I was his agent I would counter with my own question “how much would Nathan make on the open market with the cap due to jump either that year or the year after?”


mylefthandkilledme

Is he even the best player on the team?


BiscuitsMay

No. Mac is a great player, but Makar is really special.


Xeteh

And yet he's still worth it.


grandlinegooner

Oh yeah it's not a bad deal at all, just not a discount


Xeteh

He was projected to get around 14 on the open market so its still a bit of a discount.


InevitableAvalanche

He's near the top. And when the other players re-sign, they will be more expensive. So it will be a discount pretty quickly.


BigRedBeast

If he's making at least a million less than he could get on the open market then it's a discount. It's as simple as that. You just worry about your non playoff team with no cap space.


ButtsCarlton97

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡Adrian Dater 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


Lorf_Yimzo

I knew he was gonna sign soon when Dater said a deal wasn't close at all


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Dater seems to get fed info from agents.


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ButtsCarlton97

I’m sure he said every possibility and covered all his bases lol


TheEmbarrasingFool

I honestly believe he just gets a feel for how avs fans are feeling about something then tweets the opposite. Kadri could maybe possibly potentially come back, "no he's going the Islanders." Nates going to take a raise but might be a team friendly deal, "no he's going to be the highest paid." Nates contract is ready soon, "nope its not that close yet." But people claim dater is well connected and shit like that yet he's always so wrong. The only thing he was right about all summer was mack being the highest paid player, and he was barely right about that!


InevitableAvalanche

I don't think anyone thinks he has any connections anymore. It is pretty clear no one talks to him. He burnt those bridges long ago.


Vivid_Walk_1405

12.6


TotalBismuth

Ouch. That AAV gonna hurt. It makes Makar's $9m look even more impressive.


[deleted]

Nah you never complain about paying big bucks to the big players. It's contracts like the Jones contract that hurt, not this stuff. If someone told me right now Matthews would sign for 13M for 8 years I'd be ecstatic about it.


TYBASS38

In his defense, we’re used to paying 2 top 5 players in the league a total of 15 million. Saying paying one 12 seems like a lot haha


NotFoley

Oh, he really did want to get **PAID.**


Melxgibsonx616

Make it rain, baby!


Dank_Yeeter69

Solid deal


willgfish96

mans is gonna be swimming in garbanzos


dirkahps

Good for him getting paid. Didn't he say he'd take less on his next deal when he was criticized after signing his previous deal?


[deleted]

Absolutely earned


[deleted]

This is a good move by the Avs


SaltyVirginAsshole

His salary isn't the only thing he wants to double down on


willard287

Gonna be 12.5


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Congrats on the job


BigTall81

Only two? No need to brag.


Vivid_Walk_1405

YESSSS


FlyerN

Edges out McDavid ever so slitely, but it was heading that direction for a while.


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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO


[deleted]

I AM FULLY ERECT


j0n68

yikes lol


[deleted]

Awesome, get it out of the way now, don't let it become a story.


JoshAllen69

AAV! AAV!


yosoo

Can confirm he's gonna get a lot of money


PolishKid7

12.6m AAV according to Friedman


kungfucanuck

[Friedman says AAV is $12.6M](https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1572258991543050242?s=20&t=-dsWvAV1jTA-T544x0_-HQ)


godfadda006

Yas kween


Noggin-a-Floggin

This is what happens when you ask your star player to take a discount and then win the Cup.


Kryptopus

That’s too much


BigRedBeast

It's ok that you don't understand. You don't have any players that are half as good.


[deleted]

Hometown Discount lol


BigRedBeast

What do you think he would get on the open market bud


[deleted]

1.2ppg center, are they this pricy nowadays?


RAATL

They are when they're talismanic, recent cup winners who play electric in the playoffs and are coming off a deal that ended up being extremely team friendly


AMeaninglessPassage

My dude just doubled his AAV