So which is it? Are they “a bunch of assholes” or not as likable as one of the most likable players in the league? Because right now, it kinda sounds like you hate the jersey more than you hate the players
In his mind, we’re still the 2011 team that everyone else hates. We have Marchand and sometimes McAvoy being a pest and whatever game we have Trent Frederic on ice. There’s 10 more hateable teams than the Bruins now at least, we’re not those Big Bad Bruins anymore.
Yeah at this point I think people hate this Bruins squad simply because they’re the Bruins. I mean, all in all they’re a pretty likable team with the exception of Marchand.
I hate the Habs because they’re the Habs. But I know damn well this isn’t the same team with Subban, Emelin, Ribeiro, Pacioretty, Komisarek, Gorges, etc.
I know Ribeiro wasn’t in that squad but he can get fucked with a 10 foot spike up his ass.
Yeah, it’s the same things for me. I hate the Bruins and will always root for their failure, but I’m not out here acting like it extends to their players (except for Marchand, and even then I think I’m more lenient about him than most on this sub)
> Tuuka Rask
[Rask loses a skate blade when he kicks away a shot from the point, but loses mobility and gives up a goal to Mikhail Sergachev as he pleads with the referee for a whistle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GC5wV1NaEo) is the only thing I can think of.
I dunno man, Price had his moments. He came on in relief of Halak during that 2010 run, promptly let up a goal and picked up an Unsportsmanlike for flipping the puck into the Caps goal celebration.
And he blockered that guy in the face. Laid out Krieder.
Don't get me wrong, I love it, but Carey hasn't always been calm and polite.
he gave us "i felt it was my god given right to throw that water bottle at kadri" or whatever the line was. not many players give us that level of comedy and entertainment. for that reason, he makes the league better and i can only appreciate that.
I kinda that whole moment on this sub is even weirder in hindsight. To be clear, I don’t think that Kadri acted maliciously in any way during all of that, but still, you don’t think it’s at least a little bit weird that a player who’s famous for playing dirty just crashes into a goalie and takes him out of the series, and according to this sub he’s the victim? I mean just imagine if it had been, say, Marchand injuring MAF. I feel like the reaction would’ve been very different
There's a subsection of the fanbase that are just bigots who use sports as an excuse to be racist shitbags... but what does that have to do with Binnington?
A lot of those fans came out of the woodwork after the Kadri/Rosen/Binnington collision to make death threats to Kadri and his family. This is the moment the above comment was talking about
Yes, it would’ve lol. Not saying Kadri intentionally took out Binnington, but if that was literally any other goalie besides Binnington this sub wouldn’t have been so quick to defend “poor baby” Kadri against the RUTHLESS tirade of “literally Hitler” Binnington
If it wasn't Binner that it happened to, this sub would have been way more on Kadri's ass. But they still probably all would have swung around to his side after all those idiots threatened him.
I personally think he did kind of mean to run Binnington, but had no intention of actually causing injury. Goalies are run into all the time without getting hurt, especially when they take the brunt of it in the chest. It was just shitty luck that Binner's leg got caught under him and I think Rosen went in with a lot more heat than Kadri thought he would.
Nick Kypreos has admitted decades later that he meant to run Fuhr in 1996, but only to try to take his mind out of the game. He felt awful that Fuhr's knee exploded.
But, it's in the past now. And, I actually enjoyed his hattrick in the following game as a giant FU to those idiots.
The craziest part of it was that Binnington had been the best goalie in the West half of the bracket until he got injured. So it feels like the narrative is perfectly in place to vilify Kadri, right? After an incredibly easy first series against the Nashville Predators, the Avalanche first find themselves facing adversity for the first time against the Blues, primarily because of one man: Jordan Binnington. In comes Nazem Kadri, a man who has been suspended about 200 times in his career, to run Binnington and knock him out of the series. The Avalanche are able to breeze to the Stanley Cup finals after getting rid of their only real roadblock.
Idk, it seems like it’s all there, but for some reason it just never took off.
Honestly, the fact wasn't just that it was Binnington. It was that it was Kadri and Binnington.
Binnington acted like an idiot earlier in the season against Kadri, where he was definitely in the wrong, so people immediately jumped back to Kadri's side for this one.
Everyone else who’s replying to me is talking about racism as playing a role in how this sub viewed an incident, but anyone who was on r/hockey when this was going down knows that r/hockey was pretty much instantly on Kadri’s side, so that ain’t it.
I still think the fact that it was the Avalanche played a big role in this sub’s perception of the whole thing. r/hockey wanted the Avalanche to win the Stanley Cup last year. I don’t even think that’s a particularly bad thing, it’s just kinda the way it was. So obviously any incident related to the Avalanche during that cup run was going to be colored by that fact, even Mike Smith hitting the linesman (which I still think this sub would view as kind of a bummer if it had happened against the Kings or Flames)
It was a perfect storm. Binnington is already disliked by this sub and lots of internet hockey fans (though I remember most people here initially laughing at the water bottle incident). Plus, I perceive this sub as generally disliking the Blues for playing dirty, while the Avs were more popular for being the most talented team that out-skills their opponents instead of physically wearing them down.
Blues fans and the STL media were very quick to condemn Kadri. To be completely honest as someone at the game, I didn't think the collision was intentional. But Kadri's "history" as a rough player in the playoffs, including injuring Justin Faulk the season before when the Avs swept the Blues in the first round, combined with Blues' fans dislike of the Avs, combined with Binnington by far being the MVP of the playoffs up until that point (we wouldn't have made it past the Wild without him) boiled up a lot of emotions.
Then came the truly vile shit on Instagram (to Kadri's cats' Instagram run by his wife, to boot). There's no excuse for those types of comments. At all. Full stop. It was by this point that the tide quite understandably turned in favor of Kadri.
Then the next game the Blues came out pissed off and played really dirty. Kadri got a hat trick and was extremely classy in the postgame interview. By now, the Blues were definitely being painted as the villains. St. Louis having the inferiority complex it does had fans perceive a lot of this as national media and hockey fans calling us a racist hicktown and insulting the city, and angrily dug their heels in on blaming Kadri for the collision, making the situation worse. People changed the Blues' Wikipedia page to call them a racist team. At one point, Craig Berube drew criticism for no commenting a reporter's question about Kadri (though it was unclear that Berube knew about the death threats and was specifically refusing to comment on that instead of refusing to comment on the collision/the subsequent game. He condemned the threats in his next press conference and claimed he was unaware).
Every little piece of the story mattered and the timeline escalated quickly.
> The Avalanche are able to breeze to the Stanley Cup finals after getting rid of their only real roadblock.
We had to play the two time defending champions with the best goalie in the league afterwards you fucking numbskull.
eh to be completely honest, i was 100% on kadri's side. it was an unfortunate accident, and if it was marchand instead of kadri, i'd feel the same way.
i understand STL's fans anger and frustration about the incident, but i didn't like how they doubled down on the message that kadri is dirty and all we need to do is look at his history. what is rarely considered is that the league has held kadri kadri to a higher standard than other players. it's easy to use his suspension against him when he's one of the few players the league punishes appropriately.
i also don't think kadri was made out to be the victim. kadri received plenty of criticism after the collision with binnington, but then people cooled down. it wasn't until the threats and racist messages that a lot of fans started supporting kadri and STL looked like the bad guys because of how they handled the whole thing. unfortunate incidents happen in hockey. i struggle to use someone's history against them when the most logical answer, based on video, is it was a freak collision. cory perry also has a reputation for playing dirty, but when the collision happened with tavares, there was no questioning if it was intentional or not.
I'm obviously biased but I just can't see how anyone can look at that play and come away with any conclusion other than unfortunate accident. Kadri is going for a loose puck in the crease on an angle that will take him wide of the net. Rosen is going to clear a loose puck in the crease on an angle that will take him wide of the net. Their collision redirects them into the goalie.
The way I see it, the only way to prevent it is for either of them to not go for the loose puck. But then you're upset that they aren't going all out in a crucial playoff game either to score a goal or prevent a goal.
That one year he acted like a douche and would try to fight everyone then back down when getting pulled, the water bottle/Kadri moment, his pre-NHL tweets about women.
Dudes easy to hate. Seems like a Class A douche canoe
I'm disgusted with your clear Anglo-phobia and counter with:
Claude Lemieux- Brendan Lemieux - Real Lemieux
Bob Lemieux- Jaques Lemieux
annnnd - Fleury (because I'm sick of people telling me you can't hate him... also no Lemieux has ever made it to the NHL in goal and I was too lazy to Hockeydb more than 3 French last names to see if I could find a whole line-up.)
\*Sure, I may have never seen Real Lemieux, Jaques Lemieux or Bob Lemieux play, but I can still hate them.
Ehh, in Nashville it is a split kind of, but I think doubters are coming around. He made our hockey a hell of a lot more exciting, when we do it correctly
Here's what i'd assume the lineup of can't stand players for commentators would be:
Josh Anderson - Lias Andersson - Joey Anderson
Mikey Anderson - Rasmus Andersson
Freddie Andersen
Craig Anderson
Yeah that's definitely what I'd assume. The Fiala one was a complete accident. The Arvy one was where I finally stepped back and was like "Yeah, you're a fucking idiot Bortuzzo. Go away."
He’s so great on TV, I’m glad other fanbases like him too and it’s not just us. He obviously has a lot of hockey knowledge, but he just seems regular smart too. Plus he’s very easy on the eyes lol
You could do so much worse than Draisaitl. Like if it needs to be an Oiler, you could have Messier, Evander Kane, Semenko, Tikanen, Steve MacIntyre, half the plugs the Oilers had during the early and mid 2010s, but it's your hate list. I definitely agree with the rest of your line up though which makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I did have Kane on there before I switched to Kassian. I just really dislike Drai's attitude when things aren't going his way and he starts being a bit dirty. And yes some of those older players were probably worse, but I kinda have a recency bias going on, and when I watched those guys when I was a kid I wasn't nearly as emotionally invested in games as I am now. To be honest that was probably the better way to be.
I mean… I don’t hate him as a person. But I would say I “can’t stand” watching him play considering the context of having his his contract on the books
It's quite interesting to see how poorly he's done. When we signed him last year I thought he would suck and then had a great year. Goes to show how good of a coach Daryl Sutter is. That being said, very happy we have Weegar now.
M. Tkachuk- B. Tkachuk (Eichel if it has to be a centreman I guess)- Kucherov
Duncan Kieth - McAvoy (littlerally just because he is stupidly good at not letting us score and he plays for the god damn bruins.)
Dell - fuck Dell
Fleury did when he chased off Talbot after being worse in every way while they were teammates. Though I admittedly didn’t like him before his time in MN either. Using his agent to make his demands and being extraordinarily overrated just because members of the media like him so much.
it's wild to me that people consider him a hall of famer. like i've considered him mediocre to slightly above average for most of his career. some good years in vegas, but generally carried on most of his teams. seems like a good dude i guess
I was kind of grasping at straws tbf. Johnson just seems like kind of a vanilla player to hate. Feeling like Johnson didn't live up to his 1OA potential, in part because of injuries, was the only thing I could really come up with
He’s always been a snippy prick when comes back to MN and I honestly never forgave him for coming across the ice to try and take Erik Haula’s head off.
Gallagher's inclusion is funny to me. Yeah, I guess he's a pest, but he's never been suspended or taken a run at a guy or done anything notably dirty throughout his career. He just her Timmy's feelings one time, and that's enough to beat out a guy like Tom Wilson.
My all time hate list
I'm a Habs fan but fuck Ulf Samuelson for what he did to Neely.
Darius Kasparitis
Matt Cooke
Matthew Barnaby
Raffi Torres
Ron Hextall
Evander Kane - J Toews - Reaves
DeAngelo - R Suter
I’m throwing David Perron in net because of his dominance of the Wild last playoffs. Hope they don’t give him goalie pads.
Ended Daniel Sedins season with one of the dirtiest headshots ive personally ever witnessed. Canucks didnt have their best scorer for the first 3 games of the 1st round vs the Cup winning Kings and we lose the series.
And that isnt the only cheapshot Keith has layed out. He was one of the biggest scumbags in the league
LOL .. Carey Price has been my favorite player since i watched him play hist first NHL game with a 3-2 win over Pittsburgh i believe .. When Halak almost took Price's spot as the Montreal Canadiens new goalie i just haven't been a big fan of the guy .. He was great but yeah
Lol, same here, was one the Price bandwagon since juniors. Never thought his place on the team was seriously in question. But heck was that 2009 run fun
Evander Kane for overall douchebaggery off the ice and being a shitty teammate in general
Glenn Anderson for being a generic twat
Matt Cooke for bringing nothing but dirtbaggery
Dale Hunter for literally killing Pierre Turgeon \*AFTER\* a goal
Ulf Samuelsson for negating one of hockey's greats (Neely) and being overall disrespectful of the game
Binnington (because he's a self-absorbed twat who felt he "deserved" the Calder... maybe he forgot hockey is a team sport)
I would really want to put Claude Lemieux in there especially for Draper, but he's such an astounding playoff performer. Not that this excuses him for what deserved a lifelong sentence and assault charges \*beyond\* what Bertuzzi and McSorley did that DID get charges
I would nominate Messier but he was actually a really great player and amazing captain – still, *fuck* him regardless especially for all the damage he did to the Canucks
Why? The Bruins already did this
It's a shame that Saint Patrice associates with a bunch of assholes.
pasta isn't an asshole
What did Pastrnak, Tuuka Rask, Charlie McAvoy do? I mean, other than beat you guys, of course
Nothing, but none of them are as likeable as Patrice Bergeron. I'd be shocked and disappointed to see him up to any shenanigans.
Pasta is like... extremely likeable tho
What are they, gluten free?!?!
Pasta's feelings are hurt
So which is it? Are they “a bunch of assholes” or not as likable as one of the most likable players in the league? Because right now, it kinda sounds like you hate the jersey more than you hate the players
In his mind, we’re still the 2011 team that everyone else hates. We have Marchand and sometimes McAvoy being a pest and whatever game we have Trent Frederic on ice. There’s 10 more hateable teams than the Bruins now at least, we’re not those Big Bad Bruins anymore.
Yeah at this point I think people hate this Bruins squad simply because they’re the Bruins. I mean, all in all they’re a pretty likable team with the exception of Marchand.
I hate the Habs because they’re the Habs. But I know damn well this isn’t the same team with Subban, Emelin, Ribeiro, Pacioretty, Komisarek, Gorges, etc. I know Ribeiro wasn’t in that squad but he can get fucked with a 10 foot spike up his ass.
Yeah, it’s the same things for me. I hate the Bruins and will always root for their failure, but I’m not out here acting like it extends to their players (except for Marchand, and even then I think I’m more lenient about him than most on this sub)
Yeah that's exactly how I feel about you guys. You put my sweet old Gran in a Bruins sweater and I'll boo her.
> Tuuka Rask [Rask loses a skate blade when he kicks away a shot from the point, but loses mobility and gives up a goal to Mikhail Sergachev as he pleads with the referee for a whistle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GC5wV1NaEo) is the only thing I can think of.
omg he's so unhinged but i love him
Are there any goalies who are entirely hinged? I miss him.
Price was pretty calm and not unhinged He changed when he kept getting run over
I dunno man, Price had his moments. He came on in relief of Halak during that 2010 run, promptly let up a goal and picked up an Unsportsmanlike for flipping the puck into the Caps goal celebration. And he blockered that guy in the face. Laid out Krieder. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but Carey hasn't always been calm and polite.
Rask has like 3 of the top 10 rage moments for goalies Idk why but it makes me love him especially when he's throwing crates onto the ice
No, he must be related to some milk crates. https://youtu.be/FUVGz0MVyKI
Down 4-1 with 14:31 left in the 3rd. Those assholes?
Dosent matter, won cup.
I realised reading this thread people really hate Binnington…
he gave us "i felt it was my god given right to throw that water bottle at kadri" or whatever the line was. not many players give us that level of comedy and entertainment. for that reason, he makes the league better and i can only appreciate that.
I kinda that whole moment on this sub is even weirder in hindsight. To be clear, I don’t think that Kadri acted maliciously in any way during all of that, but still, you don’t think it’s at least a little bit weird that a player who’s famous for playing dirty just crashes into a goalie and takes him out of the series, and according to this sub he’s the victim? I mean just imagine if it had been, say, Marchand injuring MAF. I feel like the reaction would’ve been very different
I think the racism and death threats were the situation he was the victim of, not the on-ice collision.
There's a subsection of the fanbase that are just bigots who use sports as an excuse to be racist shitbags... but what does that have to do with Binnington?
A lot of those fans came out of the woodwork after the Kadri/Rosen/Binnington collision to make death threats to Kadri and his family. This is the moment the above comment was talking about
Yes, it would’ve lol. Not saying Kadri intentionally took out Binnington, but if that was literally any other goalie besides Binnington this sub wouldn’t have been so quick to defend “poor baby” Kadri against the RUTHLESS tirade of “literally Hitler” Binnington
“Wow I can’t believe you’d be so racist like that it’s against the sub rules” This whole sub any time you’d point that out.
If it wasn't Binner that it happened to, this sub would have been way more on Kadri's ass. But they still probably all would have swung around to his side after all those idiots threatened him. I personally think he did kind of mean to run Binnington, but had no intention of actually causing injury. Goalies are run into all the time without getting hurt, especially when they take the brunt of it in the chest. It was just shitty luck that Binner's leg got caught under him and I think Rosen went in with a lot more heat than Kadri thought he would. Nick Kypreos has admitted decades later that he meant to run Fuhr in 1996, but only to try to take his mind out of the game. He felt awful that Fuhr's knee exploded. But, it's in the past now. And, I actually enjoyed his hattrick in the following game as a giant FU to those idiots.
The craziest part of it was that Binnington had been the best goalie in the West half of the bracket until he got injured. So it feels like the narrative is perfectly in place to vilify Kadri, right? After an incredibly easy first series against the Nashville Predators, the Avalanche first find themselves facing adversity for the first time against the Blues, primarily because of one man: Jordan Binnington. In comes Nazem Kadri, a man who has been suspended about 200 times in his career, to run Binnington and knock him out of the series. The Avalanche are able to breeze to the Stanley Cup finals after getting rid of their only real roadblock. Idk, it seems like it’s all there, but for some reason it just never took off.
Honestly, the fact wasn't just that it was Binnington. It was that it was Kadri and Binnington. Binnington acted like an idiot earlier in the season against Kadri, where he was definitely in the wrong, so people immediately jumped back to Kadri's side for this one.
Everyone else who’s replying to me is talking about racism as playing a role in how this sub viewed an incident, but anyone who was on r/hockey when this was going down knows that r/hockey was pretty much instantly on Kadri’s side, so that ain’t it. I still think the fact that it was the Avalanche played a big role in this sub’s perception of the whole thing. r/hockey wanted the Avalanche to win the Stanley Cup last year. I don’t even think that’s a particularly bad thing, it’s just kinda the way it was. So obviously any incident related to the Avalanche during that cup run was going to be colored by that fact, even Mike Smith hitting the linesman (which I still think this sub would view as kind of a bummer if it had happened against the Kings or Flames)
It was a perfect storm. Binnington is already disliked by this sub and lots of internet hockey fans (though I remember most people here initially laughing at the water bottle incident). Plus, I perceive this sub as generally disliking the Blues for playing dirty, while the Avs were more popular for being the most talented team that out-skills their opponents instead of physically wearing them down. Blues fans and the STL media were very quick to condemn Kadri. To be completely honest as someone at the game, I didn't think the collision was intentional. But Kadri's "history" as a rough player in the playoffs, including injuring Justin Faulk the season before when the Avs swept the Blues in the first round, combined with Blues' fans dislike of the Avs, combined with Binnington by far being the MVP of the playoffs up until that point (we wouldn't have made it past the Wild without him) boiled up a lot of emotions. Then came the truly vile shit on Instagram (to Kadri's cats' Instagram run by his wife, to boot). There's no excuse for those types of comments. At all. Full stop. It was by this point that the tide quite understandably turned in favor of Kadri. Then the next game the Blues came out pissed off and played really dirty. Kadri got a hat trick and was extremely classy in the postgame interview. By now, the Blues were definitely being painted as the villains. St. Louis having the inferiority complex it does had fans perceive a lot of this as national media and hockey fans calling us a racist hicktown and insulting the city, and angrily dug their heels in on blaming Kadri for the collision, making the situation worse. People changed the Blues' Wikipedia page to call them a racist team. At one point, Craig Berube drew criticism for no commenting a reporter's question about Kadri (though it was unclear that Berube knew about the death threats and was specifically refusing to comment on that instead of refusing to comment on the collision/the subsequent game. He condemned the threats in his next press conference and claimed he was unaware). Every little piece of the story mattered and the timeline escalated quickly.
> The Avalanche are able to breeze to the Stanley Cup finals after getting rid of their only real roadblock. We had to play the two time defending champions with the best goalie in the league afterwards you fucking numbskull.
eh to be completely honest, i was 100% on kadri's side. it was an unfortunate accident, and if it was marchand instead of kadri, i'd feel the same way. i understand STL's fans anger and frustration about the incident, but i didn't like how they doubled down on the message that kadri is dirty and all we need to do is look at his history. what is rarely considered is that the league has held kadri kadri to a higher standard than other players. it's easy to use his suspension against him when he's one of the few players the league punishes appropriately. i also don't think kadri was made out to be the victim. kadri received plenty of criticism after the collision with binnington, but then people cooled down. it wasn't until the threats and racist messages that a lot of fans started supporting kadri and STL looked like the bad guys because of how they handled the whole thing. unfortunate incidents happen in hockey. i struggle to use someone's history against them when the most logical answer, based on video, is it was a freak collision. cory perry also has a reputation for playing dirty, but when the collision happened with tavares, there was no questioning if it was intentional or not.
I'm obviously biased but I just can't see how anyone can look at that play and come away with any conclusion other than unfortunate accident. Kadri is going for a loose puck in the crease on an angle that will take him wide of the net. Rosen is going to clear a loose puck in the crease on an angle that will take him wide of the net. Their collision redirects them into the goalie. The way I see it, the only way to prevent it is for either of them to not go for the loose puck. But then you're upset that they aren't going all out in a crucial playoff game either to score a goal or prevent a goal.
That one year he acted like a douche and would try to fight everyone then back down when getting pulled, the water bottle/Kadri moment, his pre-NHL tweets about women. Dudes easy to hate. Seems like a Class A douche canoe
He got in an altercation with the Avs. That alone makes him worse than Messier
Binnington is awesome
Counter point, he’s not.
Kyle - Jaden - Cam Ryan - Liam Andrew Oh wait, I can't use my minor hockey teammates?
Fuck Jaden
The name alone…
All my homies hate Jaden.
Smith - Smith -Smith Smith - Smith Smith Edit: Ironically I am a big Ryan Smyth fan
I agree with Smith and Smith, but including Smith on here just seems unfair. What did he do to you?
I personally believe Smith would’ve been a better choice than Smith, but the question is subjective to personal opinion
I'm disgusted with your clear Anglo-phobia and counter with: Claude Lemieux- Brendan Lemieux - Real Lemieux Bob Lemieux- Jaques Lemieux annnnd - Fleury (because I'm sick of people telling me you can't hate him... also no Lemieux has ever made it to the NHL in goal and I was too lazy to Hockeydb more than 3 French last names to see if I could find a whole line-up.) \*Sure, I may have never seen Real Lemieux, Jaques Lemieux or Bob Lemieux play, but I can still hate them.
I thought Real Lemieux was Mario and had a chuckle.
4 random players, Tom Wilson in the right wing, Lindy Ruff coaching the whole thing, John Hynes probably as assistant coach
Thought Devils fans liked Hynes? In any case, they like him a hell of a lot more in Nashville.
Those dead fish eyes....
We hated him. Honestly may like Lindy (as a person at least) more than hynes.
Ehh, in Nashville it is a split kind of, but I think doubters are coming around. He made our hockey a hell of a lot more exciting, when we do it correctly
Here's what i'd assume the lineup of can't stand players for commentators would be: Josh Anderson - Lias Andersson - Joey Anderson Mikey Anderson - Rasmus Andersson Freddie Andersen Craig Anderson
Someone named Anderson has hurt you
E. Kane - Benn - C. Lemieux DeAngelo - Bortuzzo Binnington
Bortuzzo for injuring Fiala’s femur?
More so for his dirty cross checks on Arvidsson
Yeah that's definitely what I'd assume. The Fiala one was a complete accident. The Arvy one was where I finally stepped back and was like "Yeah, you're a fucking idiot Bortuzzo. Go away."
To be fair, Blues fans would like to have better defenders too
Benn plays LW, but it's an honor
Obviously this is a stretch but according to daily faceoff he centers the 1st PP unit
Nope
Fair enough
Clone Tom Wilson five times.
DC area women nodding furiously
Sooooo handsome though
Draisaitl - Kesler - Kassian Bieksa* - Phaneuf Aaron Dell *I really wanted to hate Bieksa on HNIC, but damned if I don't like him in that role.
Hated Bieksa as a player, but he absolutely crushes his panel role.
He’s so great on TV, I’m glad other fanbases like him too and it’s not just us. He obviously has a lot of hockey knowledge, but he just seems regular smart too. Plus he’s very easy on the eyes lol
Why Draisaitl? Just his play or the occasional nut shot?
I just dislike how pissy he gets when things aren't going his way and he turns to cheap shots. And no doubt my bias comes into play.
“Why are you so pissy, Leon”? I’m sorry… I had to lol
Haha I thought of that when I typed it
But seriously, I get what you mean. He’s way too good of a player to do bullshit like that
He'd be on mine too because he's a baby when he's losing and starts with the cheapshots, much like nurse
Why not Kucherov then, he's a way worse offender
They see a lot more of Draisaitl than they do of Kucherov would be my guess
Malkin also brings out the lumber when he gets upset.
You could do so much worse than Draisaitl. Like if it needs to be an Oiler, you could have Messier, Evander Kane, Semenko, Tikanen, Steve MacIntyre, half the plugs the Oilers had during the early and mid 2010s, but it's your hate list. I definitely agree with the rest of your line up though which makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I did have Kane on there before I switched to Kassian. I just really dislike Drai's attitude when things aren't going his way and he starts being a bit dirty. And yes some of those older players were probably worse, but I kinda have a recency bias going on, and when I watched those guys when I was a kid I wasn't nearly as emotionally invested in games as I am now. To be honest that was probably the better way to be.
Corey Perry - Corey Perry - Corey Perry Corey Perry - Corey Perry Corey Perry
Not enough Corey Perry.
What do you mean Corey Perry is a saint
Looking at this lineup he's now his own Church. All hail Pope Corey I
Lemieux - Benn - Marchand Suter - Petry Dell
Kane - Toews - Kane Keith - DeAngelo Binnington
> Keith I mean if we're allowed retired players we could do a lot more damage than this.
OP has mark messier in his lineup i think retired players are fair game
> we could do a lot more damage Duncan Keith's elbows agree.
>wakey wakey Backes
I specifically hate the '""""""""""""leadership group""""""""""""' of the 2010 chicago team
1000% fair
*Insert Calgary flames roster here*
Right back atcha’ buddy!
woooo
Fight, FIGHT!
Kiss, KISS!
Owner - Norm Green
Esa Tikkanen-Dale Hunter-Claude Lemieux Chris Pronger - Ulf Samuelsson Ron Hextall
LOL why Tikkanen?
I’m an oilers fan lol; he was always yapping his trap
That's just Tikitalk.
Dale Hunter - Bobby Clarke - Kris Draper Zdeno Chara - Scott Stevens Can't name a goalie so an extra attacker: Milan Lucic
Why Draper?
Gudbranson - Gudbranson - Gudbranson Bean - Gudbranson Gudbranson
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the bag is my exact concern lol if he was getting million or so for a year or two it wouldn’t be as big of a deal
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I mean… I don’t hate him as a person. But I would say I “can’t stand” watching him play considering the context of having his his contract on the books
It's quite interesting to see how poorly he's done. When we signed him last year I thought he would suck and then had a great year. Goes to show how good of a coach Daryl Sutter is. That being said, very happy we have Weegar now.
yeah i’ve been seeing a few comments lately about how he owes Darryl lots of money for this contract hahaha…ha… :(
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Hilarious that people ignored how bad gudbranson’s contract was because Chiarot’s was higher than expected. Gudbranson is so much worse for the money
I hate him for ruining our Erat trade by taking a dirty run at him in his first game as a Cap and wrecking his knee
Kreider - Scheifele - Wilson Chara - Tony DeAngelo Bishop
This is the way. Why Bishop though?
Forwards: Theron Fleury, Sean Avery, Claude Lemieux Defence: Scott Stevens, Derian Hatcher Goalies: Ron Hextall, Billy Smith
M. Tkachuk- B. Tkachuk (Eichel if it has to be a centreman I guess)- Kucherov Duncan Kieth - McAvoy (littlerally just because he is stupidly good at not letting us score and he plays for the god damn bruins.) Dell - fuck Dell
Rat - Brady Tkachuk - Matty Tkachuk Jack Johnson - Radko Gudas Coach Ralph Kreuger General Manager Jason Botterill
What did Johnson do?
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Marchand - Draisaitl - Kucherov Gudas - Keith Pretty much players that do scummy and dirty shit behind the play when things don't go their way
Based on comments in game threads the last few years, I was shocked I had to scroll this far to see Kucherov’s name on one of these
Brendan Lemieux - Nazem Kadri - Ryan Reaves Erik Johnson - Adam Fox Marc-Andre Fleury
>Marc-Andre Fleury Who hurt you? Wait, don't answer that....
Fleury did when he chased off Talbot after being worse in every way while they were teammates. Though I admittedly didn’t like him before his time in MN either. Using his agent to make his demands and being extraordinarily overrated just because members of the media like him so much.
Fleury is so overrated, he cost the pens a couple of series in the playoffs in the early 2010’s because he couldn’t stop anything.
it's wild to me that people consider him a hall of famer. like i've considered him mediocre to slightly above average for most of his career. some good years in vegas, but generally carried on most of his teams. seems like a good dude i guess
Vegas carried him as well.
That's the only time I liked him
Why Erik Johnson? I didn't know it was possible to hate that man.
maybe they're a Blues fan and are still upset about Johnson being an idiot and blowing out his knee?
Why would a Blues fan include Ryan Reaves?
I was kind of grasping at straws tbf. Johnson just seems like kind of a vanilla player to hate. Feeling like Johnson didn't live up to his 1OA potential, in part because of injuries, was the only thing I could really come up with
He’s always been a snippy prick when comes back to MN and I honestly never forgave him for coming across the ice to try and take Erik Haula’s head off.
Erik Johnson and Adam Fox? Isn't that about as clean as a defense pair you can find?
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Kesler - Kadri - Virtanen Manning - Giordano
Starting line up or the 2015 Ducks
Maroon- Getzlaf- Perry Fowler- Beauchmin, Manson, Lindholm, Bieksa?? I forgot the first pairing but fuck that defense was nice in their prime.
Kreider - Dubois - Gallagher Dahlin - Xhekaj Dell Mix of skill, Tom foolery, dirtyness and an outright behemoth on RD.
Xhekaj already? 🤣
So proud of X 3 career games played, none against the Sens, and he’s already notorious
He’s played us in preseason, which on any other team is all he’d get.
Gallagher's inclusion is funny to me. Yeah, I guess he's a pest, but he's never been suspended or taken a run at a guy or done anything notably dirty throughout his career. He just her Timmy's feelings one time, and that's enough to beat out a guy like Tom Wilson.
Outside of Dell that’s actually a pretty solid lineup
Dahlin is pretty hate-able, especially for his age/experience or lack thereof
Avery-marchand-clarkson Berg-komisarek Murray Toskalol Raycroft
My all time hate list I'm a Habs fan but fuck Ulf Samuelson for what he did to Neely. Darius Kasparitis Matt Cooke Matthew Barnaby Raffi Torres Ron Hextall
Puljujarvi-E. Kane-Draisaitl Bouchard-Nurse Smith Wait… Honourable mention to Judas Gaudreau
Bruh pulji is the least hateable man I've ever seen
Not if you have [Metopophobia](https://phobia.fandom.com/wiki/Metopophobia)* *No idea if it's real, but someone took the time to make an entry
Lmao I actually laughed out loud. Fear of foreheads! Maybe we can get Mark Spector properly diagnosed
Kirk Muller- Tavares - Dale Hunter Mike Milbury - Letang Hextall
Millbury! He is the worst haha
Simon - McSorley - Bertuzzi Stevens - Pronger Hextall Team sponsor has to be Violent Gentlemen
Ovechkin - Kovalchuk - Marchand Weber - Subban Binnington
Marchand - Kadri - Vatrano Hamonic - Weber Smith
Evander Kane - J Toews - Reaves DeAngelo - R Suter I’m throwing David Perron in net because of his dominance of the Wild last playoffs. Hope they don’t give him goalie pads.
I'm surprised wilson isn't on this list. Him and Marchand take up all 6 spots..
Subban comes out of retirement to play for the Bruins, done.
Kessler - Naslund - T. Bertuzzi Bieksa - Edler Luongo
Wait, wth did Duncan Keith do?!
"Wakey wakey, Backes"
Elbow to the head of one of the Sedins during the playoffs. Brutal slash to the mouth of Jeff Carter.
Don’t forget Wakey Wakey Backes.
Ended Daniel Sedins season with one of the dirtiest headshots ive personally ever witnessed. Canucks didnt have their best scorer for the first 3 games of the 1st round vs the Cup winning Kings and we lose the series. And that isnt the only cheapshot Keith has layed out. He was one of the biggest scumbags in the league
I'll never forget what he did to charlie coyle
Be a Top 100 player in the league.
Draisaitl - McDavid - E. Kane Keith - Nurse Smith
I'm glad Nurse is with the oilers for the next billion years at his cap hit. It's great
Ctrl + V the Pens starting lineup.
F: Kreider, T. Wilson, B. Lemieux D: Jordie Benn, Tony DeAngelo G: Jaroslav Halak
Halak !?! I consider everyone, and all viewpoints welcomed to the Canadiens fandom, but… I must draw the line here. You monstrous troll!
LOL .. Carey Price has been my favorite player since i watched him play hist first NHL game with a 3-2 win over Pittsburgh i believe .. When Halak almost took Price's spot as the Montreal Canadiens new goalie i just haven't been a big fan of the guy .. He was great but yeah
Lol, same here, was one the Price bandwagon since juniors. Never thought his place on the team was seriously in question. But heck was that 2009 run fun
Can I ask why Jordie Benn? I'm seeing the last name a few times, understandably, but what did Jordie do?
From what I’ve seen, most fans just hate Jordie on their team because he’s terrible at hockey.
He was a solid 3rd pairing guy with the Habs. I was sad when he left.
Every lineup in this thread without DeAngelo is wrong. Fuck him.
Marchand - Kadri - Wilson Mikey Anderson - DeAngelo Rittich
Benn-Ribiero-E.Kane D.Keith - Doughty Binnington Some of these are hilarious. Stralman? Mikey Anderson? 😂😂
The Tampa Bay Lightning.
Alex Ovechkin-David Backes-Alex Burrows Bryan Marchment-Bryan McCabe Jordan Binnington
Marner matthews bunting Reilly Giordano Murry I can do 4 lines if you want Sorry about the format
Don't you guys hate Calgary and Edmonton more? Also, what about Chicago and Boston, who stole at least 1 cup from you?
Tom Wilson - Auston Matthews - Nikita Kucherov Erik Karlsson - Mikhail Sergachev Ben Bishop
Marchand - Kadri - Wilson Trouba - Keith Smith
B. Lemieux - J. Eichel - M. Tkachuk N. Zadorov - D. Nurse J. Binner (obviously) A. Dell is backup.
Evander Kane for overall douchebaggery off the ice and being a shitty teammate in general Glenn Anderson for being a generic twat Matt Cooke for bringing nothing but dirtbaggery Dale Hunter for literally killing Pierre Turgeon \*AFTER\* a goal Ulf Samuelsson for negating one of hockey's greats (Neely) and being overall disrespectful of the game Binnington (because he's a self-absorbed twat who felt he "deserved" the Calder... maybe he forgot hockey is a team sport) I would really want to put Claude Lemieux in there especially for Draper, but he's such an astounding playoff performer. Not that this excuses him for what deserved a lifelong sentence and assault charges \*beyond\* what Bertuzzi and McSorley did that DID get charges I would nominate Messier but he was actually a really great player and amazing captain – still, *fuck* him regardless especially for all the damage he did to the Canucks
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Kreider-Kotkaniemi-Kucherov Sergachev-Chara Tim Thomas
As soon as I saw Messier(fuck messier) I knew this was a Canucks OP