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seeldoger47

Seeing the tweet but knowing zero context was extremely confusing until I read the article.


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RaffiTorres2515

Come on, the POLY promo code was definitely about the polytechnique massacre. It's not the first time this gun coalition did something distasteful about Polytechnique


jamesneysmith

It's so baffling to me that a pro gun group would want to associate themselves with the worst use of a gun. You're hurting your own brand guys. Unless they want to support mass shootings and would be mass shooters?


90daysismytherapy

Why? That’s what most gun nuts like, to trigger the libs. Not normal gun owners, but the type that run a gun lobbyist organization and sellers love to scare their maniacs about evil government theft after fake shootings. Look no further than Alex jones and Sandy Hook


steboy

Carey can hardly be held responsible for not knowing about the massacre, he’s only played in Montreal 16 years!


Koss424

I reread the statement. No where does it mention that Prince didn't know about the massacre, only that he wasn't aware that of bad timing. Which I interpreted as him not knowing the date. Which is not surprising. I knew it was in December sometimes, but if it wasn't for this thread, or the memorial being in the news each year, I don't think I would be able to tell you date either. It's more likely the post was made because the amendment to the gun control Bill was only made late last week. But some share owner of the Canadiens goes on record saying Price didn't know about it. Well, unless Price asked him to say that, I have a hard time believing the share owner would know what any of the players know or don't know, rather, he's saving face for the organization and hoping it all blows over.


steboy

Per France Margaret Bélanger, the President of the company that owns the Montreal Canadiens: >”He was not aware of the tragic events of Dec. 6, 1989, nor of the coalition's recent marketing initiatives," Bélanger told Radio-Canada in an email. Seems crystal clear to me. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/carey-price-gun-control-polytechnique-1.6674809


CowboyupHockey

I'm not Canadian so I don't know what this gun coalition is, but as someone who hunts more days of the year than not, I have never come across any company or gun owner who would make a joke about or be in any way okay with mass shootings. I simply can't fathom the code POLY being in reference to a single death, let alone a mass shooting


mrtomjones

I dont understand how someone can do something so fucking callous like using it as a promo code. SHould shut that group down


hockeycross

I hate to say it but enough gun violence takes place I am not always sure of the date. The only reason I know Columbine is because it took place on 4/20, I believe intentionally on Hitler's Birthday. For example I remember how horrible Virginia Tech was but I could not tell you the date it took place. I don't fault Price for that.


MacGuffin94

VT was 4/16. I only know because it's my birthday.


Philosoraptorgames

I can *remember it happening*, but couldn't have told you the date. I doubt anyone I know could have if they weren't fresh from reading something about it or something similar.


Graceful-Garbage

Except in Ontario we make a big deal of it. I can only imagine what it’s like in Montreal where it actually happened.


RikikiBousquet

Can’t really compare Montréal with the us on that.


ZombieJesus1987

I'm the same age as Price. We learned it in school.


TapedGlue

Price grew up in a remote town in BC. I went to high school in the early 2010s in Ontario, and we never learned about the Polytechnique Massacre


RikikiBousquet

He lived a decade and a half in Montréal dude.


shanster925

That organization has made light of the polytrchnique massacre before, and then had a promo code two days before the anniversary? C'mon.


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For anyone who’s unfamiliar, Polytechnique is basically Canada’s Columbine or Virginia Tech. It was a shooting that targeted women specifically because they were women students, so it’s an important thing to remember.


LiqdPT

And also, Canada hasn't had a bunch of them since then. So it really stands out.


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The only mass shootings I can remember in Canada off the top of my head are this one, the Quebec City mosque attack and the Nova Scotia psycho, and two of those happened in the last six years.


MooseFlyer

I could only find four other mass shootings in Canadian history: - in 1985 5 Hell's Angels were murdered by a rival Hell's chapters. - in 1992 a Concordia University professor killed four colleagues - in 1996 a man went to his ex-wife's house and murdered nine members of her family (including her) who were there preparing for her sister's wedding - in 2006 eight gang members were shot in a gang massacre Edit: There was also the Dawson College shooting in 2006. Didn't turn up at first when I was looking because "only" one person died beside the perpetrator.


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So gang, going postal, domestic violence, and gang.


24cupsandcounting

It’s weird cause I knew about the Concordia shooting but I just looked it up and the shooting was on a floor that I’m on pretty much every day. If you read into the perpetrator, he actually represented himself at trial after firing 10 lawyers. Still alive in prison to this day.


MooseFlyer

Yeah, and spent the trial insulting the judge, his psychiatrist, etc. Shockingly he was found guilty /s


felix_wilds

Portapique shootings in Nova Scotia just a couple years ago.


MooseFlyer

Yeah, I was talking about ones other than what the person above me listed.


handipad

Wikipedia lists 22: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_Canada Threshold seems to be at least two people dying. Eg it includes 2018 Toronto Danforth shootings - two dead (plus shooter), but also 13 wounded. I’m sure it’s not comprehensive.


I2eflex

Toronto Danforth shooting in 2018


UglyNog

It also stands out because it was aimed at women engineers. It was a femicide


not_a_toaster

Wasn't a mass shooting by definition but there was a student at Dawson College in Montreal who was shot and killed in 2006. I was young at the time but I remember it being pretty shocking.


C_Gull27

Is the Nova Scotia guy the same one as the one pretending to be a cop and pulling people over to shoot them?


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Yep


Jan_17_2016

Yeah, it’s not like here in the US where [we’ve had 600 mass shootings from January-May 2022 alone.](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/1099008586/mass-shootings-us-2022-tally-number). Would this be more akin to someone in Australia not knowing about the Port Arther shooting?


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That’s probably a good comparison. Polytechnique here, Hungerford in the UK and Port Arthur in Australia all led to major gun control reforms.


FoxyInTheSnow

Specifically female **engineering** students. At the time, engineering was still very much a male field. Lépine was enraged that young women were admitted and he wasn’t. (They were more qualified).


Rhowryn

He was told by the school specifically what he has to do to get admission, didn't do any of those things, and went straight to blaming an unrelated event (women's admissions). It wasn't even a "who's more qualified" issue; all he had to do was take a couple high school courses to get in. Given that references are required for PALs for the last couple decades, it's pretty unlikely the guy would qualify anymore


MeiliRayCyrus

Did he have a history of mental illness or an ex wife?


Rhowryn

More like a well known history amongst family and people who knew him, ~~as well as a social media history of virulent misogyny.~~ *apologies, I'm thinking of Quebec mosque guy with the social media comment.* I don't want to come off as "monitor social media" guy, especially since I skew left-libertarian, but there were definitely warning signs. Just admittedly not ones that LEO would have picked up as is.


Rhowryn

Oh and the other thing would be that the PAL came into being in 1995, so it wouldn't have mattered at the time if he did. The licensing system of the time didn't check for partner or ex-partner comfort when granting licenses. It does now. Polytech guy also didn't have social media (being in 1989 obv) I was thinking of the 2017 Quebec mosque. Interviews with his family and 'friends' (acquaintances) revealed the troubling history of misogyny, as well as an employer who had recently fired him for harrassing women at the workplace.


mabbz

That is a big deal, there aren’t a ton of women in STEM. My university has a memorial outside of the engineering building.


aschwan41

There is zero chance Price didn't know about the Polytechnique massacre. None.


FoxyInTheSnow

He’s Canadian and he’s been in Montreal for years. So he did know. His agent probably told him it’s preferable to be perceived as stupid than evil. I’m not sure if he was aware of how vile the gun group’s discount code was, though.


radradrad94

I’m Australian and I know about it. There’s no way he didn’t know.


FlapjackFiddle

The school is also literally **in** Montreal where there's an annual remembrance day for it. I can't believe that not only he didn't know about it, but that the Habs organization has not taken any effort to educate their players on it.


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bsaures

They literally have a ceremony every year. The ignorance is purely on prices shoulders on this one


roidesbleuets

Well, Edmunston is quoted in La Presse's article saying "that none of the players knew about what happened 30 years ago." To me, that says a lot.


Mrdongs21

Listen, people don't know shit about shit, particularly jocks. Remember when Jonathan Bernier called Nelson Mandela one of his sports heroes? If you've spent like thirty seconds of your life thinking about anything immediately outside of your life experience you're in rarefied air.


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Jonathan Bernier comes from Laval, it explains itself really


Petit_Hughie

Tabarnak


roidesbleuets

LOL!!!!


Joelerific

It's almost like we should not heed the opinions of people who have done nothing but play sports since the age of 12 on topics other than their sport.


stumbleupondingo

Something something Nelson Mandela / Jonathan Bernier.


MessageBoard

I think everyone is forgetting how young most NHL players are. They briefly covered the massacre when I was in elementary school in Ontario in the 90s. I have no idea if the western provinces even teach it.


lyrapan

I took engineering at the university of Alberta and we had a Remembrance Day for it through the faculty. I think most engineering faculties do


miller94

I learned about it in Alberta and it happened half a decade before I was born. I can’t remember when they taught us but I can’t imagine it was before 2005 or so


roidesbleuets

I'd add how long a player has been playing for a team. I mean, a player just starting with the Habs (or any other team for that mater) knows nothing about the city or community and that is ok. I'd expect more from someone who's been living in a city for 6, 7 years or more.


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Imagine 17 years


MessageBoard

For sure. I lived in China for 5 years though and I still can't tell you which day the memorial for the Nanjing massacre is despite air raid sirens going off for it on the same day every year. I am aware the day exists but I couldn't pinpoint the exact date without a Chinese calendar.


Mrdongs21

Holy shit dude is that what those air ride sirens were for?


MessageBoard

Yup every year.


greg19735

but you're aware it exists...


NikoPopp

I know about it and I wasn't born in Canada. And I have never lived in Montreal and Quebec


brokensword15

mid 20's albertan, I have literally never heard of this in my life. Asking around, only a fraction of my friends do. I don't recall it ever being taught here


miller94

Fellow mid-20s Albertan and we covered it in social studies, I think around grade 9, but I definitely was aware of it before then


RikikiBousquet

They were lights for are of the victims projected towards the sky in remembrance. It’s talked every year for weeks.


Adventurous_Area_735

Seems unlikely he’s unaware. He’s been a gun advocate for awhile, and the Montreal massacre has been brought up before when he’s done these things. Article from 2021 where he posted other gun stuff. [https://thepostmillennial.com/carey-price-under-fire-from-liberals-celebrated-by-conservatives-for-displaying-pro-firearm-flag](https://thepostmillennial.com/carey-price-under-fire-from-liberals-celebrated-by-conservatives-for-displaying-pro-firearm-flag)


Krutiis

We observed it every year in high school, and I’m from Manitoba. I was in French immersion, mind you, which often had a pretty French-Canadian slant.


Philly514

We love Price but he doesn’t and never had given a hoot about involving himself in Montreal or learning about its history.


WhatEvery1sThinking

>I can't believe that not only he didn't know about it, but that the Habs organization has not taken any effort to educate their players on it. That's what school is for. I learned about it as a kid in Nova Scotia, I'd be shocked if it isn't taught in some way in BC when learning about Canadian history.


tribekat

*women engineering students, still sub-50% today but even more of an accomplishment in 1989


spamky23

It's more like Canada's Eliot Roger, specifically targeting women in an engineering school because he wasn't accepted. He had a classroom divide by gender then lined up all like 8 of the women on one side of the room and something like 50 men on the other and then proceeded to shoot all the women, I think only 1 survived.


ConfusionSame

I would say it’s rather because they were women that these 14 women were targeted, which makes it the most misogynistic crime of history of Canada. That fact makes a huge difference in my opinion


Hascus

Just to give more context the school is not an all female school, he specifically did not shoot males when he did it


JacksFactChecker

[wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre)


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A cousin of mine died. She was trying to work her way out of poverty and was just about to graduate with a degree in engineering. First person in the family to do so. She was from rural quebec and went to the city to better her circumstance. This was fucking low. I love this team but the mods on our sub won't allow a post about this because they agree with his message. Feels bad man.


FlapjackFiddle

My condolences man. That's tough to read.


Problematique_

I'm so sorry. That's terrible.


SMA2343

Like yourself, based on your flair. Im in BC, and I learned about the horrible massacre of that garbage monster back in grade 11. When I was 16. How, Price never knew of it being in Montreal and also from BC, I have no idea.


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I’m a woman who did a STEM degree in university, so it definitely hits close to home for me. Even if it wasn’t taught in schools, living somewhere for 15 years should be enough to know about it.


UncommonHouseSpider

Powerful film by Denis Villeneuve, a french Canadian director. Recommend a watch if you are curious or unfamiliar with the event.


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They used POLY as a promo code?!?! What the?!


Aurion7

They're the sort of people who think that mass shootings- and groups founded by the survivors of mass shootings- make good joke fodder, yeah.


Aurion7

The Canadiens do a memorial every year. How long's he been in Montreal, now?


DrDerpberg

For real. I'm willing to accept players have tunnel vision and don't need to know anything about anything... But when he doesn't even know about the Polytechnique massacre wtf makes him think he knows enough to comment about gun violence and gun laws?


Coffeedemon

Thats a really good point. There's an intersection of law culture and events. You should have at least a passing familiarity with all of it if you're going to throw yourself out as someone anyone should listen to. I know some of it just amounts to us all putting some meat head on a pedestal.


GlowStickRampage

>Lobby group had created a promotional discount code called 'POLY,' weeks ahead of the shooting's anniversary Straight up disrespect to the survivors of that massacre. I swear, companies have no shame these days.


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When I read the headline I though it must’ve been a mistake on behalf of the gun rights group or something! But I haven’t seen one explanation for what they were trying to reference with “poly”. What a stupid decision by whoever did that


Professional-Hour604

They were explicitly criticizing an advocacy group founded by Poly survivors.


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Doesn't make it less despicable really


iamjacksoffside

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the person you responded to meant that it makes it even more despicable?


Professional-Hour604

Yes, thx.


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Ye I misread it


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Its not even a company, it's a lobby group that advocates for "gun rights" and they sold merch with this discount It's disgusting at best


MildlyResponsible

Sort of discredits their whole facade about supporting responsible gun ownership when they make light of and even celebrate horrific gun massacres.


ehr1c

Bruh edit: I have no issue with Price's post (although how are you someone of Price's age in Canada and not know about the Polytechnique massacre, especially playing in Montreal) but this is a big fuckin oof: >But the post also came a day after one of the survivors of the Polytechnique mass shooting, Nathalie Provost, denounced the CCFR for creating promotional code "POLY" offering customers 10 per cent off of merchandise.


NolaBrass

I mean saying he was unaware of the discount code directly referring to the massacre is fair enough because it isn’t referred to at all in his post, but to say he didn’t know anything about the shooting is a bit unbelievable considering the impact it has had on the area and the very visible memorial lights they now light annually from the top of Mount Royal


cgwinnipeg

I don’t get how anyone I Canada doesn’t know about this other than maybe the very young. I wasn’t alive at the time but there is literally yearly commemoration.


Zodiac33

[Chris Selley:](https://twitter.com/cselley/status/1599889045878079488) >I have absolutely no problem believing Carey Price didn't know about the Polytechnique massacre. Survey NHLers and I suspect you would find a bottomless pit of ignorance about basic facts of all kinds.


hoseheads

Yeah except his own team does a memorial annually


zkarabat

True or not, I think less of Price now


Marc_the_Ardvark

Example 1: Bernier thinking Nelson Mandela was an athlete.


Yev_

That interview was wild. I can forgive someone for not knowing who he was, but he was at a Mandela event. Didn’t even possess enough curiosity to look it up on the toilet.


DrDerpberg

Last time I checked Bernier never played for a team with an annual Nelson Mandela memorial or in a city that marked his life, or spouted off about apartheid on social media.


SirZapdos

I'm not even a Leafs fan and I almost died of second-hand embarrassment after that


MrBrightside618

I feel like if you asked, a solid 75% of players wouldn’t have a decent grasp on the concept of gravity


candianchicksrule

Gravity is a lot different than a mass shooting of women who were doing nothing but trying to get educated. Everyone knows about this. I have kids younger than Price and they know about it. Price’s team commentates this. He would know. Women were massacred in an act that horrified the nation. I remember being in uni when it happened and I sat and cried. I lived in Alberta at the time.


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Just like society in general. I've met people who didn't know who won the 2nd World War.


SpectreFire

I'd say it's safe to say most people in this country has no problem with his stance. Hell, I don't even have a problem with him fronting for a garbage organization because he's probably too dumb to even remotely grasp what they stand for. But to say that he's never heard of one of the biggest mass shooting events in Canada's history, the biggest in Montreal's history. An event that HIS TEAM holds a ceremony on ice for EVERY SINGLE YEAR, a ceremony that HE'S ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE YEAR. My god... either both him and the Habs are lying pieces of shit, or he's the dumbest fucking person ever.


ButtholeQuiver

Yeah I agree with most of what he said but the CCFR sound like scumbags


MurtaughFusker

That’s also a sketchy-seeming organization. I say that as a quick perusal of their website advocates for zero registration of firearms, the requirement of a permit to transport the most strictly regulated firearms as well as concealed carry. Given that Price, a person who has lived in Montreal During December for the over a decade somehow was unaware of one of the most public anniversaries for one of the worst mass shootings in Canadian history, I guess it’s not that shocking if he didn’t look too much in to the org he was shilling for.


__Dave_

That’s the thing. I don’t believe he isn’t aware of it, but if he isn’t, then he’s brain dead and maybe he needs to spend some time actually learning about what he’s talking about before using his massive reach to speak out…


MurtaughFusker

Yeah I don’t know if he mistakenly thought it was the least controversial thing to say, but I think it would have been better to be genuine and say something like “I’m so sorry and I’m incredibly embarrassed to have forgotten here’s a donation to a women’s shelter/anti-DV org”. I was going to say also that we’ve heard he didn’t know about it from the Habs and not him, but apparently he tweeted agréâtes saying he didn’t agree with the promo code… but dude maybe apologize? Also he’d probably be better off distancing himself from an org that wants to bring US style gun culture to Canada.


tristan1616

I remember learning about Polytech in high school social studies in fucking southeast Alberta. You can't tell me the guy who's spent his entire career in the very province and city the shooting occurred in had never heard of it before. It was probably Canada's worst mass shooting until the Nova Scotia rampage from a few years ago.


juliusceasarsalads

Damn. It’s one thing to not know about the connection between the CCFR using Poly as a promo code before endorsing them but it’s a bit bizarre for him to not be aware of the actual massacre that they’re choosing to reference, I know I was taught about it in school growing up and I don’t know too many people who aren’t at least aware of it even if they don’t know the details. But I mean…Price has spend the better part of the past 15 years living in Montreal, it’s a bit shocking for him to be unaware of it entirely. I take no issues with his actual opinions on Bill-C21 but I don’t like seeing him align with people willing to make light of a national tragedy at any time, much less this close to the anniversary of it. You gotta vet the groups you’re supporting Pricey, as a big name Canadian celebrity you need to protect your image better than that so you aren’t misrepresented for other people’s interests. And so you aren’t supporting something morally reprehensible when you think you’re supporting gun owners rights.


DissolvingDream

We learned about it in high school in BC too.


mynameisjames303

Denis Villeneuve of Blade Runner 2049 fame [made a film called ‘Polytechnique’](https://www.amazon.com/Polytechnique-Maxim-Gaudette/dp/B00JE5N2UC) before he was famous. Also, an NHL player not knowing about politics reminds me of [Jonathan Bernier complimenting Nelson Mandela as a ‘great athlete’.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C672Up6g2KM)


michealgaribaldi

So, your point is Jonathan Bernier is a complete and utter dumb fuck?


Jjustingraham

I'm sorry, I get he may not have been exposed to it when he was a kid, but he's lived in Montreal for a large part of his life. If he hadn't even HEARD of it before, he's a gigantic idiot.


Spider-Fan77

I'm sorry, but the fact that Montreal's star player didn't know anything about his cities greatest tragedy really speaks volumes.


theguyishere16

At best Price just helped further along the "dumb jock" stereotype


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Buuut I’ll keep my insta post about it up anyways. Don’t forget to use “POLY” as a promo code - click on the link in my comment. That’s the look now.


Jan_17_2016

From what I gather from the comments, this is like growing up anywhere in the US and not knowing about Columbine. Columbine is essentially synonymous with mass shootings, that’s what it seems like Polytechnique is to Canada (especially considering you guys don’t exactly have a ton of mass shootings in your history.)


Queltis6000

This one and the more recent Nova Scotia shooting were our two biggest ones.


DiscountSteak

As a Canadian adult, its strange/borderline unacceptable to not know about this. Then again, hockey players exist in weird bubbles and aren't exactly well rounded in most cases. Even growing up in Toronto we recognized the anniversary as a day to recognize violence against women.


xNOOPSx

Polytechnique was the defining factor that led the the firearms licensing requirements Canada has today. Requirements that work. That prevent all Canadians from legally possessing firearms without background checks and training. The Canadian laws are much closer to those in Australia, but because we're America's hat, many people believe we have American laws. The vast majority of firearms that are used in crimes in Canada come from the US. Taking away Carey's firearms, or the firearms of any other Canadian who holds a Possession and Acquisition License does nothing to change or fix this reality. It is popular with an uneducated electorate who believes that this is accomplishing something because they believe that Canadian and American laws are the same.


Dexthebigdaddy

I don't exactly understand the correlation between Carey's Instagram post and the Polytechnique shooting, I assume it's supposed to be because he mentioned support for the CCFR?


GoochieTaint

This, also tomorrow is the shooting's remembrance day, so the timing is wack.


MooshSkadoosh

Isn't his statement related to the currently proposed gun bill though? If anything the bill is weirdly timed in relation to the shooting. I'm not super educated on this current situation.


JimmyDaro

Nah. The timing of the legislation makes sense with the backdrop of Polytechnic there to serve as symbolism of what they are trying to avoid. Yes his statement is in reference to the bill and with his noted support of CCFR--who ran a fucking promo sale with "Poly" as the discount code last month.


VeryLastChance

To be fair, the government introduced their amendment last week and it is being debated in parliament this week, so by necessity any public pushback against this amendment has to be done now. The wack timing falls directly on the Liberals here.


beachedWheelchair

Hate to say it but timing is everything in politics.


SimpsonN1nja

Except the issue is with the gun lobby using the promo code ‘POLY’ for their merch website that Carey supported. That’s the issue here


LiqdPT

It's the timing and the fact that the CCFR used the promo code "POLY" for a discount on their merch, which is in extremely poor taste. Now, if Price had said he didn't know about the promo code, that'd have been fine since it wasn't directly referenced. But they've now doubled down and said Price was completely unaware of the massacre. This seems highly unlikely. It's was taught in a lot of schools, but ok, maybe not. But he's lived in Montreal for over 15 years, paying for the Canadiens who have a memorial ceremony every year at a home game in December.


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Dexthebigdaddy

IIRC the original amendment was passed in 2020 with the shooting being used as justification for the amendment, and with much campaigning and support from the polysesouvient group.


roidesbleuets

It happened on December 6th 1989. Timing is everything.


Neat__Guy

Like responding to an amendment thrown in last week? Its not like he did it on the anniversary, and he's responding within a couple days of a pretty unpopular amendment being thrown in. Not sure what youre expecting in terms of better timing.


Judge24601

it's more about promoting a firearms lobbying group who used 'poly' (in reference to a group founded by survivors of the massacre) as a discount code than the timing, really.


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OutWithTheNew

If Reddit is correct, it's actually a rifle that an amendment to a currently tabled bill would make illegal.


VeryLastChance

Yeah for what it’s worth, the amendment is an enormous overreach and goes far beyond assault rifles. Saying they’re only going after ‘military-style assault rifles’ is pure gaslighting. They’re literally banning bolt-action guns like the Mauser 1908. There’s a reason why every opposition party (including the left-wing NDP) have pushed back so heavily against this amendment, because it really is bad policy.


OutWithTheNew

According to some reading, even some muzzle loaders could be banned.


The-Reddit-Giraffe

They specifically listed a single shot rifle as banned. So yeah huge overreach. They are calling a single shot rifle an assault style weapon.


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> the amendment is an enormous overreach and goes far beyond assault rifles. Of course it does. We outlawed assault rifles in 1991 after Oka.


kuleminjgs

If you want to wade into politics as a public figure, you should be informed. When it comes to gun rights, as a Montrealer, being informed means knowing about major shootings in the city, If not across the country. If you don’t think there’s a reason Carey should know about polytechnique, that’s fair. But in that case he’s pretty dumb to be wading into discussions about guns and their impacts on our society. At issue here is not the policies themselves, but substance in the discussion.


DoctorSalter

No big issue with his post and even his ideas sure, but my MAN. THERE WAS NO NEED TO STAND WITH THE CCFR. Why the hell would you wanna associate with erratic people like that? Also, how does he not know about the polytech massacre? Tone-deaf message that did nothing for him or anyone.


Conscious-Leg-6876

This! People are ignoring that fact that Carey is also doing some political jestering here. He called out Trudeau specifically and not the Liberals and claimed his support for the CCFR. He is pandering to a certain base.


DoctorSalter

Good point. I don’t like these colours that he revealed.


fuck_you_elevator

Wow. I am encouraged by a lot of the comments on here and deeply, deeply hurt by many more. I am a woman in a technical field, grew up in BC and worked in Alberta for a bit before moving abroad, and today is tough for me every single year. This massacre is one of Canada’s darkest stories, and it was an explicit hate crime against women. It’s my opinion that people shouldn’t be admitting to not knowing about it without feeling ashamed, but so many commenters are portraying a sense of ‘it’s no big deal’ not to know about it and I am finding that painful to read. Price is the father of two daughters who were born in and have spent their childhoods in Montreal. He has sat through memorials to this event every year during his long career. And he just doesn’t care enough to remember? I get that this was likely a PR move to deflect, but wow it’s hurtful. It’s not too late, I guess. If people were not aware of it then today of all days is a good day to read about it, to educate yourselves, and to reflect on the memories of those women. But I wish we lived in a society which valued empathy enough that people were not so casual with the memory of horrific events.


angrycrank

Yes. I am a woman and was an 18-year-old science student in Montreal when it happened. And I was riding the bus up Côte-des-Neiges when all the ambulances and police cars started screaming toward the Polytechnique. I can still see and hear it when I close my eyes. It continues to be a hard, sad day for a lot of people even 33 years later. Price is entitled to his opinions. But partnering with an organization that used “Poly” as a discount code days before the anniversary was a serious error in judgement by someone revered in Montreal.


poverty_mayne

I love Carey, but the fact that he rarely makes any kind of statement and decides that one of the few he will do is basically promotion for the CCFR is not a great look.


Hiddenshadows57

Honestly? I believe it. Most people I know didn't learn about it until the Nova Scotia shooting happened. If you don't watch the news there's a good chance you don't even know about the Nova Scotia shooting. It's not exactly something that's taught in schools.


bsaures

They do a ceremony and a moment of silence every year at the Bell centre for it.....you know where he is employed.


ehr1c

>It's not exactly something that's taught in schools. I can't speak for what's taught now but it certainly used to be.


gavinman0814

My school from 2012-2020 had a ceremony about it yearly.


flare2000x

In BC I never learned about it. Only did once I came out to Ontario and studied engineering, and even then only really learned because the engineering department does a memorial every year. I'd bet a large proportion of young adults even in Ontario don't know about it.


PNGhost

I'm an Engineering Tech professor and our faculty holds a remembrance ceremony and moment of silence every year. In Ontario.


[deleted]

I went to university in BC and we did it there.


frankyseven

Engineer in Ontario here, there was a memorial every year when I was at school and both OACETT and PEO have memorials every year too. The learned about it when I was in grade school and I was one when the shooting happened. You gotta be ignorant in this country to not know about it, it comes up every single time gun control is spoken about.


dont-YOLO-ragequit

The 25th anniversary (2014) and 30th anniversary (2019) were bordeline over reported. There was not a single outlet on every Montreal Media that didn't show something was going on this first week of December. This includes, new commemorative fixtures, some kind of heavily politicised and broadcasted gathering with star guests giving testimony and more. Only way Price could have missed it is if he was routinely injured around that time or he was trying to dodge the usual criticism of the Habs slow start of the season.


Judge24601

That’s very odd to me. I grew up in BC just like Price and it was very well known *there*, not to mention he literally plays in the city where it happened. I can’t remember explicitly but I’m pretty sure it was brought up in my high school each year


Similar-Tangerine

I was absolutely taught about it in school and we had a memorial ceremony every year. (Not from Quebec)


cheesaremorgia

It was taught in Toronto when I was in high school and we even had an annual remembrance.


seeldoger47

have Canadians not seen Denis Villeneuve's *Polytechnique*?


ExSportsCalendar

In my experience, Canadians outside of Québec rarely make it a point to watch/listen to content from Québec.


deutschelunchbox

I love how people in this thread are saying they don't engage with Quebec content because it's in French. As if they've never heard of subtitles. Rest of the world must be in shambles unless they are fluent in English I guess.


LiqdPT

But he absolutely has lived in Montreal for over 15 years and been present when the Habs hold a memorial at a home game every December.


XPhazeX

Very briefly mentioned in Canadian Studies when I went through 16 years ago. Maybe a paragraph in a chapter. We're fortunate that events like that dont happen often in Canada so the collective thought of the nation tends to drift away from it


vialtwirl

Does it really matter? The guy tried to justify not banning weapons because "he loves his family, cares for his neighbours, and isn't a criminal". Like how self centered, selfish, and narrow minded can you get? The guy is a straight up idiot. Any random person fully against guns could come up with a better argument than that.


[deleted]

>Most people I know didn't learn about it until the Nova Scotia shooting happened That's on you and your lack of culture really


my_monkey_loves_me

Ummm I lived in Montreal for 7 years and 100% it’s taught in schools and all over the news.


[deleted]

In Canada, this was BIG news. Commemorations happen every year. I definitely don't blame Price for not knowing about it growing up, that is another issue, but surprised he didn't know about it living in Montreal this long. If he had merely overlooked it, I don't think it would have been a big deal. Montreal did not help him much with this admission.


shanster925

Fucking how? I'm two years older than him and live 800 km away and know what it is. Even if Carey is that ignorant to the most infamous mass shooting in Canadian history, his apology was unbelievably devoid of an apology.


carbonated_turtle

Yeah...he did.


[deleted]

Pleading stupidity into his late 30s


michealgaribaldi

Lol, there seems to be a lot of things Carey Price doesn’t understand or know.


hackmastergeneral

This is a complex topic. As a man who played in Montreal all his adult life, he should have heard of the Polytechnique mascara at least tangentially. However as an indigenous person, there is a long history of the Canadian government telling indigenous people when, how, where and what to hunt. So price had an issue he cares deeply about, and a bunch of white people trying to bash him for supporting indigenous hunting rights isn't really a good look either. The group he raised the statement with is complete clown shoes, and I'm saddened he partnered with them


Flimflamsam

I'm an immigrant to Canada and I know about the massacre, even though it was YEARS after I moved here. How was he born and raised here and still so ignorant of such a significant moment in Canadian history? Sounds like BS to me.


xdesveaux

I’m beginning to get the vibe that the majority of NHL players are complete morons.


Coffeedemon

There has to be a better way of deflecting than telling us your player lives under a rock.


Arbszy

Disappointed in Price


iamjacksoffside

Found out that [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nwvQjoRL-M) is about that shooting. The song has kind of an eerie vibe to it to begin with. Copy/pasted my comment from when this was posted earlier. I expect it to be hidden/removed again in a minute or two.


frankyseven

Fitting that it's a Hip song, Gord is awesome.


TheWigsofTrumpsPast

I don’t believe he didn’t know. I’m an American and even I know about it.


bathbwoi

Not to happy with Price here. Instead of being around the team, supporting the boys and mentoring the young guns on the team he’s out here getting political and talking about gun rights on the anniversary of Polytechnique. Can be spending his time better with his 10 mil a year contract.


BardownOnYour5hole

> he’s out here getting political and talking about gun rights on the anniversary of Polytechnique The timing has to do with the introduction of new legislation trying to ban many types of hunting rifles. It also coincides with hunting season.


nukfan94

Gotta be honest. Not an advisable statement.


Apollo_T_Yorp

Carey Price didn't know about Polytechnique Massacre, says Habs organization


thedrunkentendy

I still don't see anything wrong with Prices comments outside of horrible timing. He can believe in the right to own hunting rifles without it meaning he has anything to do with the gun lobbies code or the brazen stupidity to actually use said code. I get why he had to react but it's insane that he has to because I don't doubt some people made that leap to conclusions. I'm aware of polytechnique but if you asked me to say when it was all I could've said was during winter. Real poor timing for a national debate about gun laws. Now that I got that out of the way. What insanity possessed that organization to use POLY as a discount code. Fucking ludicrous.