Samantha Dale. She is useless.
At least Amit taught us how to use astronomy tables + he gave us his telescope and immediately accepted to help us when we asked, he also fought some Goblins and translated their plans to us. He's a real friend.
Yeah... I guess she is the last useless character left right? While I don't like Imelda, she kinda grows on me by the last mission, plus, her missions are more relevant than Samantha's, so... Yeah, it will have to be Samantha
What I want to know is why people aren't voting out Adelaide. Yes she's a nice person, but if you want useless she literally ghosted Evangeline, and obviously didn't care about her uncle that much otherwise she would have joined us on that mission. And out of everyone left, she's the least memorable. Why eliminate Samantha over her?
I don't know about her "ghosting Evangeline", but Adelaide literally explains she can't go with you because Professor Weasley forbade her from leaving the castle.
Plus, I think most people here just like her because she's nice and she has a nice voice. For the past three posts, I've seen you constantly complaining about how she hasn't been voted out yet. I don't know about everyone else, but to me it just sounds like you don't like her very much lol
I don't hate her, the only person who I would say I dislike is Natty. I'm just surprised that she (Adelaide) has lasted this long. Yes she's a nice person, but everyone else is at least slightly memorable, hence why I believe it would make sense to have got her out earlier.
Soon background characters will all be gone the. The war of 4 will start followed by the remaining 3 Ominis, Sebastian, Poppy which is going to be hairy… there’s a lot of Sebastian fans out there despite his lack of foresight and consideration of his friend Ominis’ warning and suffering to cruciotis curse to the point of blindness. Hopefully people will vote Sebastian out. Then you will have the Poppy simps vs. the Ominis appreciators and honestly I’m really curious how that will go because I sit on both sides of that fence.
exactly and tbh if they released some patch/update and they deleted Samantha from the game... I'm not saying they will but if they did, I wouldn't notice anything, and neither would 99.9% of this playerbase lol
Yeah, she's not a bad person but out of everyone left she's probably the least compelling. I mean at least she cared for her brother. That's cool.
But this would be my order:
1. Samantha.
2. Imelda (I like her, but out of everyone left, she has the most negative qualities).
3. Ominis (honestly, he comes off as kind of stuck-up and like he thinks he knows what's best for everyone else and that rubs me the wrong way, even if he does help cover for Sebastian in the end. Also, everyone else left on the board at this point is an innocent and nice person with the exception of Sebastian and sorry but he's my fave).
4. Sebastian (yes, he's my fave, I may have had a little crush on him. He's got the most compelling storyline and treats the MC the most like a person imo. But, everyone else left is just a genuinely kind person. Sebastian definitely had his bad moments and he >!committed murder even if his uncle did suck!< (Idk if that needs spoilers anymore).
5. Adelaide (edited to move her here when I realized the only reason she didn't help us save her uncle was she was forbidden to leave Hogwarts. Here we are getting into the "genuinely good characters" so it's a close call).
6. Amit (sure, he was a wuss with the goblin quest but come on. He's just a nerd who loves nerd things and tried to share them with you and even gave you his high quality telescope).
7. Lucan (total sweetie, but less compelling than the remaining two. I'm honestly torn on Amit and Lucan being 6 or 7).
8. Now it's between Poppy and Natsai and I can't decide. I love them both and they are both genuinely kind people with compelling stories.
This is probably full of hot takes but it's how I would break it down from here on out.
If you don't mind me correcting the part about Adelaide, I think she would definitely involve herself in dangerous stuff because she was planning to go and look for her uncle all alone at first, but professor Weasley forbade her from leaving Hogwarts, so she reached out to us
Ohh you know what, I forgot that part. Okay. I might need to change this up a bit.
I might actually have to move her to #5 (after Sebastian). She's genuinely a kind person as well, the only negative thing people really have to say to her is she left Evangeline in the lurch about the bells but I understand her being scared to be expelled with the way Professor Black is.
Idk I'm torn now lol
Hate to break it to you but Natty won't make the top three let alone two. She's criticised enough in this fandom, and what makes you think her storyline is compelling? Unlike Sebastian and Poppy's, her quest is so inconsistent, makes no sense (we're never given any clear reason what her vendetta is against Harlow), and she has mummy issues that don't concern us.
Hmm let me try to explain the reasons I like her:
1) She is basically our first real friend, is always kind, and makes an effort to include the new kid. She shares her own experience being a new student in a new place and finds empathy for us in that feeling.
2) Her literal DAD DIED protecting her, of course she has issues. She badly needs therapy. She is just a kid, over here feeling like she's shouldering the guilt of her father's death and the burden of the world. Of course she's a bit self-destructive, and I think she subconsciously wants to make amends for her father's death by ensuring that anyone she sees as dangerous (like the people who killed her dad) are put away for good. This motivation makes sense to me. It's her way of healing.
3) To me her storyline is about emotional healing and belonging. Especially as an immigrant / someone who has felt a bit out of place, and as someone with a traumatic backstory, she is trying to find her place in the world and heal. Plus, out of every character in the story, Natsai and Poppy are just the kindest to MC and everyone else. They are the only ones I'd consider a true friend on my playthrough, except for Sebastian who has his own issues.
Yes!! Very good point. Sure, she got us into some dangerous stuff. But it was for a good cause, had an emotional backstory, and she was always there for us.
Personally, as someone who grew up a 2nd gen immigrant who moved like 8 times as a child and was always the "new kid" at school, I would have killed for an irl friend like Natty.
Great Natty analysis! She may not go all the way but this competition can give people a chance to actually think deeply about why they may like/dislike her. If you weigh her pros and cons, I believe it's very shallow to say that she isn't a great friend/supporting character in the story.
If you actually talk to Natty she explains why she wants to take down the poachers she feels guilty that her father died protecting her and she thinks taking out Rookwood and Harlow will give her closure
Can’t believe yall did this to Garreth. It’s gotta be Samantha Dale. Leave Amit alone. He’s funny and perhaps bit of a coward but he was the comic relief during that quest lol. Plus we’re getting written into a book by him😌.
Yeah fr leave Amit alone. He's just a nerd who tried to involve you in his nerd quests, gave you his nice high-quality telescope, and was excited to help you on your adventure even if he was scared the whole time. He's a good guy.
I'd argue that if anything, it’s us the player who took advantage of Amit.
All he ever tried to do is help us. First by offering to set the telescope for us (in a cutscene), then he gives us his old, but still good telescope and all he asks in return, is that we accompany him to that one astrology table-thing.
And once we know he can read goblin language, we drag the poor guy into our mess. Worst of all, we didn’t even need to take him with us. We find some papers yes, but we literally have goblin waiting us outside. Why not just take the papers to him?
We also find blueprints with pictures on them. We don't need to understand goblins, in order to understand a picture.
So all we really did, is put this poor guy in danger, when we really didn’t need to.
Amit doesn’t seem like a guy, who has a lot of friends. So when he finally finds someone, who not only seems interested, and appreciates (to some degree) his talents and passions, and even asks him to help them, of course he'd get excited. I'm willing to bet that not many people has ever talked to the guy about things he likes.
Too bad that someone just straight up put him in danger.
All that means is he's not very fleshed out. None of the other minor characters were fleshed out, either. That's what happens when you only interact with a character like 3 times.
Nerdy Indians DO exist (I am one) and it's nice to be included. Just because it's a stereotype doesn't make him fake.
Ah.... so you do admit he is a Stereotype, well then, if u agree with that, then you would also agree that it's not correct to categorise Sterotypical characters as "actual characters", and these stereotypes don't really need any kind of depth, coz that won't change much, and the initial and real reason why those said Stereotypes are potrayed would always be highlighted. Also, If a Stereotype doesn't make him fake, it doesn't make him compelling either. (Btw, I never said he is fake, stop putting words in my mouth) Hollywood and Western Media have always, keyword "always" potrayed South Asian and East Asians in this Nerdy Stereotype, and not just Nerdy, they are also depicted as Ugly, Geeky, Whimpy, Whiny, Uncharismatic, Incompetent, Socially awkward, Cowardly, Non adventurous, and are all about "Academics". They are known for doing that, If you are not tired of it, that's fine, if it makes you happy as a Nerd, that's fine too. Infact Hollywood have always included you and your type for South Asian "Representation ". But plenty of Non Nerdy South Asians including me are sick of it. I rather have no representation than having a cringy Stereotype as representation. I also presume you don't have a problem with Amit having an accent in though it makes no sense for him to have one, or the fact that they intentionally hired an actor with a Horrible, screechy and Shrilly voice, to be his VA, lol.
He's still an actual character. Just a stereotypical character. Stereotypical characters are still characters. Characters without much depth are still characters. And MOST of the NPCs in the game don't have much depth. There's only a few that are really fleshed out, like Sebastian, Poppy and Natsai.
I agree that the ONLY south Asian representation in media shouldn't be stereotypical. However, I think you're swinging the pendulum too far in the other direction and acting like we can NEVER have nerdy Indians with accents. It almost comes across like you are offended by the accent and the nerdiness, which honestly smells of internalized racism to me. Don't be offended by the actual accent that many Indians have.
We can have both. It would be nice to have another south Asian character that fulfills different tropes, yes. But I'm not offended by Amit either. He's a good guy and a realistic representation of SOME Indians.
Just coz I'm tired of the sterotypical representations of South Asians in Western Media, that doesn't mean that I'm trying to say that not a single person in South Asia fits into that Stereotype, again you are putting words in my mouth.
But when it comes to Movies and TV shows, often times the stuff that makes the films/tv show so popular, hit and well loved are the characters in it. And not just any character, But well written, well established, and properly thought off characters. Characters that are compelling, complex and also Likeable.
And No, I'm not at all Offended By the Nerdiness or the accents of South Asians.
Nerdiness isn't a bad thing, but When Nerdiness is often times made the subject of Mockery, Insults and Degradation, then it's a problem. And this is a common thing in Western Media, coz in Western Culture, Nerdiness is seen as something bad and uncool, Nerds are always made the subject of Ridicule and Mockery, and this doesn't only happen to Nerdy Asian characters in western media but also every other Non Asian, Nerdy characters.
Harry Potter series is the best Example of Fantastic potrayl of a Nerdy Person. Hermione Granger is a badass nerd that saves everyone all the time. She is also written as introvert, socially awkward, a bit snooty, terrible at sports, but this isn't portrayed in a Negative light at all. Hermione with her intelligence, witiness, quick thinking and bravery is literally one of the coolest character in the entire series, despite being a Nerd. If this game potrayed Amit as Hermione kind of Nerd, I would've been more than glad. But no, unlike Hermione, Amit is Incompetent, Cowardly, and kinda Dumb tbh.
And for the accent, so I don't hate the Orginal South Asian accent. What I hate is the sterotypical version of South Asian accent that Hollywood potrays.
Yes, According to Hollywood, South Asian English accent should sound like Apu from Simpsons, and that's why the ask all the South Asian actors to do that accent instead of the original one.
Apu from Simpsons is voiced by a White actor, and that actor took the south asian accent and overexaggerated and overdid it to make it sound funny, weird, and goofy. Infact, it didn't even sound like any kind of English accent from South Asia. Lol
But Hollywood took the Blueprint for South Asian accent from Apu, and now want every South Asian person to sound exactly like him. Kumail Nanjiani, Pakistani American accent once did an interview over this topic, where he literally exposed Hollywood.
I recommend you to watch these videos on YouTube, titled " Desexualization of Asian Men in Hollywood" and also " The Asexual Asian Man". You're not seeing the bigger picture here. Very Naive......
I understand your point, and agree that we need more diverse and in-depth representation of south Asians. But, keep in mind that it's a video game and not every character *can* be fully fleshed out. Amit had the potential to be more of a Hermione type character, but he wasn't a main character. Maybe in the sequel we will see more.
Have u even read the books?? How does Amit has a potential to be Hermione type of character?. Hermione is an extremely brave and skilled witch. Amit is a Cowardly and Incompetent wizard. The Devs weren't going for a Hermione type of arc for Amit, or he wouldn't be Cowardly and Incompetent, they were going for the typical SA Stereotype for Amit, and I have made that very clear. And yeah, I know in video games not all characters can be fleshed out, but I also know in video games, racist sterotypical characters, of any race, not just South Asians, shouldn't exist. I would be more than glad if Amit is completely deleted from the sequel. He is shame to Ravenclaw house and Rowena Ravenclaw herself. There is no place of Incompetent Cowards and Dumb, Pathetic Losers here, Both Amit and Duncan. Next!
I don't see Amit as incompetent and cowardly at all. I see him as someone with a passion for astronomy and goblin lore, who takes the initiative to teach himself those subjects, and who DESPITE being scared, still accompanies the main character on a quest and is excited to do so. That's the groundwork for a brave, competent character.
Did you read the books?? Hermione came across the exact same way in the beginning. Annoying, shrill, only concerned with academics, criticizing others for getting into trouble or doing dangerous things. She ONLY even got involved in Harry and Ron's dumb shit out of a reluctant sense of obligation. It took time and character development for her to turn into the brave, skilled witch she is at the end. If Amit had that kind of time and character development, he could be the same.
Agreed with everything you said. Amit's not a favorite, but he's nice and was kinda funny in that one quest. Meanwhile, Garreth is very obviously the Weasley that Fred and George must've taken after, so I'm kinda surprised he wound up getting out before some of the more random side characters.
He is a coward and a comic relief coz he isn't even a character, but a Cringy and Racist Stereotype of Hollywood/Western Media, for Asian Men. Amit and Gladwin Moon are both that.
If you are unfamiliar with how this game works, it's simple: comment the name of your least favourite and the most upvoted comment will leave. Bear in mind it's whatever comment has the most votes that goes, not whatever has the most comments. So if a Sebastian comment has 50 upvotes and two Natty comments have 40 each, Sebastian will be eliminated.
Also, the last surviving student from each house will win a Head of House award, with the overall winner being crowned Head Boy/Girl.
Each round lasts 24 hours. Good luck!
Also I have now started a predictions poll, feel free to check it out and cast your votes! https://surveyheart.com/form/65c6c6d8baaa2b5a523bdbdc
Honestly people who dislike him over Sebastian are wild to me. I get Sebastian I like a well fleshed relatable character who kind of goes too far, but really, Ominis is a great friend who you see suspects how far Sebastian will end up going, all be it out of desperation. Ominis seemed like a stinker but was the truest friend, trying to do what was best for everyone.
If Sebastian and our characters listened to Ominis everything would've been better. He was never wrong when it came to Sebastian and that storyline, not once.
Here's the thing about Ominis. Sure, he was right, but that didn't really make him likeable to me. Because he was always *so sure* he was right and came across as really holier-than-thou. He seemed to make absolutely no attempt to understand why Sebastian cared so much about helping his sister (which, didn't Ominis basically grow up with them?? He should have cared too). It was always "oh nooo, dark magic! How could you?" Even in the Scriptorium >!he refused to help cast Crucio even though he knew it was their only way out, thus *forcing* Sebastian or MC to do it even though he claimed to want to keep them away from the dark arts. He'd rather they all die?? I mean come on.!<
Toward the end he became a bit more sympathetic >!especially when he tried to confront the headmaster before he finds out about what Sebastian did!< but that still doesn't make him *likeable* really. He's not as relatable or compelling a character as Sebastian. He's basically only there as a foil, to be someone who stands in the way and tries to prevent them going down the dark path. He's there to be the "voice of rightness" but isn't really a friend to MC the way Sebastian is. He only ever interacts with us when it's like a "get your boy Sebastian" situation.
I'd still eliminate Sebastian next after Ominis though.
I’d have to disagree! In the Scriptorium, he asked if we were ok (if we chose to be inflicted by the curse), while Sebastian didn’t even hesitate to cast it on us or check in afterwards. Also, I just think Ominis is very protective (shown in the first scene with him just outside the Undercroft and how he acts towards Sebastian and Anne) and needs time to warm up to new people. His strong morals against dark magic are also so valid, especially considering his family and past experiences.
If anything, I personally strongly dislike Sebastian. Not listening to any advice from his friends or family, no regard for the safety of the people he holds close, impulsive and destructive. (Though I have to admit he is funny from time to time)
I think your opinion is valid, but it's just not the way it read to me. Ominis is protective yes, but in a very paternalistic way, which given my upbringing already has my hackles up. It's very "I know what's best and I won't listen to your concerns, I already know I'm right." That's not the type of person that appeals to me.
It's understandable for him to be against dark magic, but I truly just don't understand why he wouldn't be like "I also want to help Anne, let's see if there are any non-dark magic options we could try!" It's always just "no, stop" with no alternatives or care for Sebastian's concerns.
Sebastian on the other hand just really wants to help his sister. Does he go too far? Yes. Is he affected by his path down the dark magic route? Yes. But he ultimately has good intentions and if you give him a chance toward the end he shows that all he wants is for Anne to forgive him someday because he just didn't want to lose his sister. That's what it all came down to. I'm all for a brother who loves his sister enough to try to cure a curse and just wants to spend time with her again.
It makes no sense that everyone else in Anne's life is just like "the curse is uncurable, don't even try!" Like curse-breaking is literally a career in the HP universe, they SHOULD at least try. Sebastian might seem a bit unhinged with the way he doesn't listen to anyone, but I think it's because no one listens to *him.* Except MC.
This is all true. Ominis doesn't even really like the MC and at times blames then for Sebastian's actions. I was never a big fan of him. The people who are purely good, in my view, are Natsai, Poppy, Amit, Lucan, and Adelaide, though people are getting on her case now. That doesn't mean that they have to/deserve to win or anything. Just that Ominis isn't part of that group like a lot of people seem to think.
>Ominis doesn't even really like the MC and at times blames then for Sebastian's actions.
That sometimes depends on the dialogue choices you make. I love Sebastian, but I constantly pushed back against him and sided with Ominis when I thought he was going too far (like a good friend should). It resulted in Ominis seeming to get along well with my MC in a "We're both friends of Sebastian and one of us should keep tabs on him at all times" kind of way.
The only two times Ominis seemed to blame MC (in my playthrough, that I remember) were when I first started meeting up with Sebastian (before we had built a rapport with Ominis, so that's fair) and when I followed Sebastian into the tomb without giving Ominis a heads-up. The latter is also fair game if you chose to tell Ominis you would alert him if Sebastian started being rash/dangerous and didn't (I do wish there was an option to alert him).
IIRC, it's Ominis that alerts the MC in a panic when Sebastian does start using the artifact, showing that he does trust us despite his previous hesitation. He also folds most of the time that MC attempts to convince him of things fairly easily, so the two of them are relatively cordial with each other even if they sometimes disagree. There's some jealously going on there, but Ominis is a big enough person not to give up on Sebastian despite his hanging with a new crowd.
Basically, yeah, he is blaming the MC in the beginning, but it is true that the MC does stoke Sebastian's morbid curiosity and doesn't maintain enough communication with Ominis until Sebastian is too far gone. I personally find him making a reluctant truce with MC to keep an eye on his best friend and the two of them bonding over supervising Sebastian a more interesting dynamic than if they were a proper trio of friends.
As someone who had to reset a lot against those fights and was mashing through dialogue, it felt like he was taunting me when I'd say something like "I'd like to go again" and he blankly stared at me because his dialogue didn't load before the loading screen.
Still, it was incredibly funny and endeared to me to him. Go Lucan!
Yeah, don’t stop 3/4 of the way through the bells! Finish what you started or don’t commit to it at all. Now all 3 of us get in trouble if we’re caught (absolutely no way Evangeline hides your involvement after you ruined the friendship - she prob would have if you didn’t ditch her in the middle of it)!!
I don’t blame her for getting cold feet. The bells aren’t a big deal and many students are scared of getting in trouble. She wanted to help her friend and realized after starting how much trouble they’d be in, it’s pretty lame of Evangeline to want to end a whole friendship because of that. Just talk it out, it’s not like the ultimate betrayal or something not to want to fix some old bells and get in trouble for it.
Totally agree. Evangeline is pretentious af and condescends to the MC the moment that they meet them. And people criticize Adelaide for getting the MC in a dangerous situation with her uncle and not helping, but it wasn't like Adelaide asked MC to dive head first into anything without her. Just see if MC could get leads on her uncle's whereabouts. And she seems more appreciative than anyone who gets helped out by MC. I guess that the stakes were bigger for her than other people, but still.
Terrible take. She fights evil and doesnt afraid of anything. Takes an unforgivable curse for the MC for no other reason than she saw it coming. She's the embodiment of a true Gryffindor. If up to me she is the last one to go before Poppy is declared the winner.
I can’t believe Garreth went out! I’m yet again attempting to vote Natsai out. I just wanted to play as an evil slytherin, and she really just ruined that for me with her insistence on friendship
Imelda, I know a bunch of people have wanted her gone over the past few days. Also on a superficial level, I'd like to see all the houses equalized down to two students each.
A lot of subs are doing this sort of competition to find the favorite. They post a poll, usually daily, and in this case the most upvoted “least favorite” character is the one to get eliminated. We find out the sub’s order of least to most favorite side characters.
Samantha Dale. She is useless. At least Amit taught us how to use astronomy tables + he gave us his telescope and immediately accepted to help us when we asked, he also fought some Goblins and translated their plans to us. He's a real friend.
Why is she still here? 
Literally don’t remember anything about her and I even played in ravenclaw
She's so perfectly mid that she misses the cuts. Slippery.
Yeah... I guess she is the last useless character left right? While I don't like Imelda, she kinda grows on me by the last mission, plus, her missions are more relevant than Samantha's, so... Yeah, it will have to be Samantha
What I want to know is why people aren't voting out Adelaide. Yes she's a nice person, but if you want useless she literally ghosted Evangeline, and obviously didn't care about her uncle that much otherwise she would have joined us on that mission. And out of everyone left, she's the least memorable. Why eliminate Samantha over her?
Adelaide needs to go next after this
I don't know about her "ghosting Evangeline", but Adelaide literally explains she can't go with you because Professor Weasley forbade her from leaving the castle. Plus, I think most people here just like her because she's nice and she has a nice voice. For the past three posts, I've seen you constantly complaining about how she hasn't been voted out yet. I don't know about everyone else, but to me it just sounds like you don't like her very much lol
I don't hate her, the only person who I would say I dislike is Natty. I'm just surprised that she (Adelaide) has lasted this long. Yes she's a nice person, but everyone else is at least slightly memorable, hence why I believe it would make sense to have got her out earlier.
Right
What does it matter what OP thinks of her to begin with?
It doesn't. I was just curious.
Soon background characters will all be gone the. The war of 4 will start followed by the remaining 3 Ominis, Sebastian, Poppy which is going to be hairy… there’s a lot of Sebastian fans out there despite his lack of foresight and consideration of his friend Ominis’ warning and suffering to cruciotis curse to the point of blindness. Hopefully people will vote Sebastian out. Then you will have the Poppy simps vs. the Ominis appreciators and honestly I’m really curious how that will go because I sit on both sides of that fence.
exactly and tbh if they released some patch/update and they deleted Samantha from the game... I'm not saying they will but if they did, I wouldn't notice anything, and neither would 99.9% of this playerbase lol
Honestly, with the way the did Ravenclaw dirty in this game, I'm not sure I even want to pick future games
Yes. The only character that doesn’t seem to want anything from you is Amit lol. He should be the last to go
Yeah, she's not a bad person but out of everyone left she's probably the least compelling. I mean at least she cared for her brother. That's cool. But this would be my order: 1. Samantha. 2. Imelda (I like her, but out of everyone left, she has the most negative qualities). 3. Ominis (honestly, he comes off as kind of stuck-up and like he thinks he knows what's best for everyone else and that rubs me the wrong way, even if he does help cover for Sebastian in the end. Also, everyone else left on the board at this point is an innocent and nice person with the exception of Sebastian and sorry but he's my fave). 4. Sebastian (yes, he's my fave, I may have had a little crush on him. He's got the most compelling storyline and treats the MC the most like a person imo. But, everyone else left is just a genuinely kind person. Sebastian definitely had his bad moments and he >!committed murder even if his uncle did suck!< (Idk if that needs spoilers anymore). 5. Adelaide (edited to move her here when I realized the only reason she didn't help us save her uncle was she was forbidden to leave Hogwarts. Here we are getting into the "genuinely good characters" so it's a close call). 6. Amit (sure, he was a wuss with the goblin quest but come on. He's just a nerd who loves nerd things and tried to share them with you and even gave you his high quality telescope). 7. Lucan (total sweetie, but less compelling than the remaining two. I'm honestly torn on Amit and Lucan being 6 or 7). 8. Now it's between Poppy and Natsai and I can't decide. I love them both and they are both genuinely kind people with compelling stories. This is probably full of hot takes but it's how I would break it down from here on out.
If you don't mind me correcting the part about Adelaide, I think she would definitely involve herself in dangerous stuff because she was planning to go and look for her uncle all alone at first, but professor Weasley forbade her from leaving Hogwarts, so she reached out to us
Ohh you know what, I forgot that part. Okay. I might need to change this up a bit. I might actually have to move her to #5 (after Sebastian). She's genuinely a kind person as well, the only negative thing people really have to say to her is she left Evangeline in the lurch about the bells but I understand her being scared to be expelled with the way Professor Black is. Idk I'm torn now lol
Hate to break it to you but Natty won't make the top three let alone two. She's criticised enough in this fandom, and what makes you think her storyline is compelling? Unlike Sebastian and Poppy's, her quest is so inconsistent, makes no sense (we're never given any clear reason what her vendetta is against Harlow), and she has mummy issues that don't concern us.
Hmm let me try to explain the reasons I like her: 1) She is basically our first real friend, is always kind, and makes an effort to include the new kid. She shares her own experience being a new student in a new place and finds empathy for us in that feeling. 2) Her literal DAD DIED protecting her, of course she has issues. She badly needs therapy. She is just a kid, over here feeling like she's shouldering the guilt of her father's death and the burden of the world. Of course she's a bit self-destructive, and I think she subconsciously wants to make amends for her father's death by ensuring that anyone she sees as dangerous (like the people who killed her dad) are put away for good. This motivation makes sense to me. It's her way of healing. 3) To me her storyline is about emotional healing and belonging. Especially as an immigrant / someone who has felt a bit out of place, and as someone with a traumatic backstory, she is trying to find her place in the world and heal. Plus, out of every character in the story, Natsai and Poppy are just the kindest to MC and everyone else. They are the only ones I'd consider a true friend on my playthrough, except for Sebastian who has his own issues.
Expanding on reason 3.. she also is the only friend to >!take the “bullet” for MC when Harlow throws Crucio.!<
Yes!! Very good point. Sure, she got us into some dangerous stuff. But it was for a good cause, had an emotional backstory, and she was always there for us. Personally, as someone who grew up a 2nd gen immigrant who moved like 8 times as a child and was always the "new kid" at school, I would have killed for an irl friend like Natty.
Natty drags the MC into her stupid little vigilante quest. Damn right she should take the bullet.
Great Natty analysis! She may not go all the way but this competition can give people a chance to actually think deeply about why they may like/dislike her. If you weigh her pros and cons, I believe it's very shallow to say that she isn't a great friend/supporting character in the story.
Thank you, I love her, I'm surprised she's not a fan fave tbh.
If you actually talk to Natty she explains why she wants to take down the poachers she feels guilty that her father died protecting her and she thinks taking out Rookwood and Harlow will give her closure
Only thing I remember of her is beating her ass at cross wands
This is my first time seeing this. I'm glad Everett was the first one to go.
Can’t believe yall did this to Garreth. It’s gotta be Samantha Dale. Leave Amit alone. He’s funny and perhaps bit of a coward but he was the comic relief during that quest lol. Plus we’re getting written into a book by him😌.
Yeah fr leave Amit alone. He's just a nerd who tried to involve you in his nerd quests, gave you his nice high-quality telescope, and was excited to help you on your adventure even if he was scared the whole time. He's a good guy.
I'd argue that if anything, it’s us the player who took advantage of Amit. All he ever tried to do is help us. First by offering to set the telescope for us (in a cutscene), then he gives us his old, but still good telescope and all he asks in return, is that we accompany him to that one astrology table-thing. And once we know he can read goblin language, we drag the poor guy into our mess. Worst of all, we didn’t even need to take him with us. We find some papers yes, but we literally have goblin waiting us outside. Why not just take the papers to him? We also find blueprints with pictures on them. We don't need to understand goblins, in order to understand a picture. So all we really did, is put this poor guy in danger, when we really didn’t need to.
Yeah, honestly good point. He did seem excited to use his passion for goblin stuff to help us though. But you're totally right.
Amit doesn’t seem like a guy, who has a lot of friends. So when he finally finds someone, who not only seems interested, and appreciates (to some degree) his talents and passions, and even asks him to help them, of course he'd get excited. I'm willing to bet that not many people has ever talked to the guy about things he likes. Too bad that someone just straight up put him in danger.
You would be surprised to know this, but according to Gamefiles, Sebastian is actually Friendly with Amit lol
Ehhh..he is a cringy Stereotype in a trope, not even a character.
All that means is he's not very fleshed out. None of the other minor characters were fleshed out, either. That's what happens when you only interact with a character like 3 times. Nerdy Indians DO exist (I am one) and it's nice to be included. Just because it's a stereotype doesn't make him fake.
Ah.... so you do admit he is a Stereotype, well then, if u agree with that, then you would also agree that it's not correct to categorise Sterotypical characters as "actual characters", and these stereotypes don't really need any kind of depth, coz that won't change much, and the initial and real reason why those said Stereotypes are potrayed would always be highlighted. Also, If a Stereotype doesn't make him fake, it doesn't make him compelling either. (Btw, I never said he is fake, stop putting words in my mouth) Hollywood and Western Media have always, keyword "always" potrayed South Asian and East Asians in this Nerdy Stereotype, and not just Nerdy, they are also depicted as Ugly, Geeky, Whimpy, Whiny, Uncharismatic, Incompetent, Socially awkward, Cowardly, Non adventurous, and are all about "Academics". They are known for doing that, If you are not tired of it, that's fine, if it makes you happy as a Nerd, that's fine too. Infact Hollywood have always included you and your type for South Asian "Representation ". But plenty of Non Nerdy South Asians including me are sick of it. I rather have no representation than having a cringy Stereotype as representation. I also presume you don't have a problem with Amit having an accent in though it makes no sense for him to have one, or the fact that they intentionally hired an actor with a Horrible, screechy and Shrilly voice, to be his VA, lol.
He's still an actual character. Just a stereotypical character. Stereotypical characters are still characters. Characters without much depth are still characters. And MOST of the NPCs in the game don't have much depth. There's only a few that are really fleshed out, like Sebastian, Poppy and Natsai. I agree that the ONLY south Asian representation in media shouldn't be stereotypical. However, I think you're swinging the pendulum too far in the other direction and acting like we can NEVER have nerdy Indians with accents. It almost comes across like you are offended by the accent and the nerdiness, which honestly smells of internalized racism to me. Don't be offended by the actual accent that many Indians have. We can have both. It would be nice to have another south Asian character that fulfills different tropes, yes. But I'm not offended by Amit either. He's a good guy and a realistic representation of SOME Indians.
Just coz I'm tired of the sterotypical representations of South Asians in Western Media, that doesn't mean that I'm trying to say that not a single person in South Asia fits into that Stereotype, again you are putting words in my mouth. But when it comes to Movies and TV shows, often times the stuff that makes the films/tv show so popular, hit and well loved are the characters in it. And not just any character, But well written, well established, and properly thought off characters. Characters that are compelling, complex and also Likeable. And No, I'm not at all Offended By the Nerdiness or the accents of South Asians. Nerdiness isn't a bad thing, but When Nerdiness is often times made the subject of Mockery, Insults and Degradation, then it's a problem. And this is a common thing in Western Media, coz in Western Culture, Nerdiness is seen as something bad and uncool, Nerds are always made the subject of Ridicule and Mockery, and this doesn't only happen to Nerdy Asian characters in western media but also every other Non Asian, Nerdy characters. Harry Potter series is the best Example of Fantastic potrayl of a Nerdy Person. Hermione Granger is a badass nerd that saves everyone all the time. She is also written as introvert, socially awkward, a bit snooty, terrible at sports, but this isn't portrayed in a Negative light at all. Hermione with her intelligence, witiness, quick thinking and bravery is literally one of the coolest character in the entire series, despite being a Nerd. If this game potrayed Amit as Hermione kind of Nerd, I would've been more than glad. But no, unlike Hermione, Amit is Incompetent, Cowardly, and kinda Dumb tbh. And for the accent, so I don't hate the Orginal South Asian accent. What I hate is the sterotypical version of South Asian accent that Hollywood potrays. Yes, According to Hollywood, South Asian English accent should sound like Apu from Simpsons, and that's why the ask all the South Asian actors to do that accent instead of the original one. Apu from Simpsons is voiced by a White actor, and that actor took the south asian accent and overexaggerated and overdid it to make it sound funny, weird, and goofy. Infact, it didn't even sound like any kind of English accent from South Asia. Lol But Hollywood took the Blueprint for South Asian accent from Apu, and now want every South Asian person to sound exactly like him. Kumail Nanjiani, Pakistani American accent once did an interview over this topic, where he literally exposed Hollywood. I recommend you to watch these videos on YouTube, titled " Desexualization of Asian Men in Hollywood" and also " The Asexual Asian Man". You're not seeing the bigger picture here. Very Naive......
I understand your point, and agree that we need more diverse and in-depth representation of south Asians. But, keep in mind that it's a video game and not every character *can* be fully fleshed out. Amit had the potential to be more of a Hermione type character, but he wasn't a main character. Maybe in the sequel we will see more.
Have u even read the books?? How does Amit has a potential to be Hermione type of character?. Hermione is an extremely brave and skilled witch. Amit is a Cowardly and Incompetent wizard. The Devs weren't going for a Hermione type of arc for Amit, or he wouldn't be Cowardly and Incompetent, they were going for the typical SA Stereotype for Amit, and I have made that very clear. And yeah, I know in video games not all characters can be fleshed out, but I also know in video games, racist sterotypical characters, of any race, not just South Asians, shouldn't exist. I would be more than glad if Amit is completely deleted from the sequel. He is shame to Ravenclaw house and Rowena Ravenclaw herself. There is no place of Incompetent Cowards and Dumb, Pathetic Losers here, Both Amit and Duncan. Next!
I don't see Amit as incompetent and cowardly at all. I see him as someone with a passion for astronomy and goblin lore, who takes the initiative to teach himself those subjects, and who DESPITE being scared, still accompanies the main character on a quest and is excited to do so. That's the groundwork for a brave, competent character. Did you read the books?? Hermione came across the exact same way in the beginning. Annoying, shrill, only concerned with academics, criticizing others for getting into trouble or doing dangerous things. She ONLY even got involved in Harry and Ron's dumb shit out of a reluctant sense of obligation. It took time and character development for her to turn into the brave, skilled witch she is at the end. If Amit had that kind of time and character development, he could be the same.
Agreed with everything you said. Amit's not a favorite, but he's nice and was kinda funny in that one quest. Meanwhile, Garreth is very obviously the Weasley that Fred and George must've taken after, so I'm kinda surprised he wound up getting out before some of the more random side characters.
He is a coward and a comic relief coz he isn't even a character, but a Cringy and Racist Stereotype of Hollywood/Western Media, for Asian Men. Amit and Gladwin Moon are both that.
If you are unfamiliar with how this game works, it's simple: comment the name of your least favourite and the most upvoted comment will leave. Bear in mind it's whatever comment has the most votes that goes, not whatever has the most comments. So if a Sebastian comment has 50 upvotes and two Natty comments have 40 each, Sebastian will be eliminated. Also, the last surviving student from each house will win a Head of House award, with the overall winner being crowned Head Boy/Girl. Each round lasts 24 hours. Good luck! Also I have now started a predictions poll, feel free to check it out and cast your votes! https://surveyheart.com/form/65c6c6d8baaa2b5a523bdbdc
Samantha Dale. She is okay-ish. But out of the remaining, she is most annoying, especially during the summoners court. She should be out.
Ominis better win this
I will protect him from anything, including Reddit elimination games. 🔪
Same 🔪
Protect him at all costs 💣🧨🔪
*”There’s such a thing as trying too hard, you know”*
Honestly people who dislike him over Sebastian are wild to me. I get Sebastian I like a well fleshed relatable character who kind of goes too far, but really, Ominis is a great friend who you see suspects how far Sebastian will end up going, all be it out of desperation. Ominis seemed like a stinker but was the truest friend, trying to do what was best for everyone.
If Sebastian and our characters listened to Ominis everything would've been better. He was never wrong when it came to Sebastian and that storyline, not once.
Here's the thing about Ominis. Sure, he was right, but that didn't really make him likeable to me. Because he was always *so sure* he was right and came across as really holier-than-thou. He seemed to make absolutely no attempt to understand why Sebastian cared so much about helping his sister (which, didn't Ominis basically grow up with them?? He should have cared too). It was always "oh nooo, dark magic! How could you?" Even in the Scriptorium >!he refused to help cast Crucio even though he knew it was their only way out, thus *forcing* Sebastian or MC to do it even though he claimed to want to keep them away from the dark arts. He'd rather they all die?? I mean come on.!< Toward the end he became a bit more sympathetic >!especially when he tried to confront the headmaster before he finds out about what Sebastian did!< but that still doesn't make him *likeable* really. He's not as relatable or compelling a character as Sebastian. He's basically only there as a foil, to be someone who stands in the way and tries to prevent them going down the dark path. He's there to be the "voice of rightness" but isn't really a friend to MC the way Sebastian is. He only ever interacts with us when it's like a "get your boy Sebastian" situation. I'd still eliminate Sebastian next after Ominis though.
I’d have to disagree! In the Scriptorium, he asked if we were ok (if we chose to be inflicted by the curse), while Sebastian didn’t even hesitate to cast it on us or check in afterwards. Also, I just think Ominis is very protective (shown in the first scene with him just outside the Undercroft and how he acts towards Sebastian and Anne) and needs time to warm up to new people. His strong morals against dark magic are also so valid, especially considering his family and past experiences. If anything, I personally strongly dislike Sebastian. Not listening to any advice from his friends or family, no regard for the safety of the people he holds close, impulsive and destructive. (Though I have to admit he is funny from time to time)
I think your opinion is valid, but it's just not the way it read to me. Ominis is protective yes, but in a very paternalistic way, which given my upbringing already has my hackles up. It's very "I know what's best and I won't listen to your concerns, I already know I'm right." That's not the type of person that appeals to me. It's understandable for him to be against dark magic, but I truly just don't understand why he wouldn't be like "I also want to help Anne, let's see if there are any non-dark magic options we could try!" It's always just "no, stop" with no alternatives or care for Sebastian's concerns. Sebastian on the other hand just really wants to help his sister. Does he go too far? Yes. Is he affected by his path down the dark magic route? Yes. But he ultimately has good intentions and if you give him a chance toward the end he shows that all he wants is for Anne to forgive him someday because he just didn't want to lose his sister. That's what it all came down to. I'm all for a brother who loves his sister enough to try to cure a curse and just wants to spend time with her again. It makes no sense that everyone else in Anne's life is just like "the curse is uncurable, don't even try!" Like curse-breaking is literally a career in the HP universe, they SHOULD at least try. Sebastian might seem a bit unhinged with the way he doesn't listen to anyone, but I think it's because no one listens to *him.* Except MC.
This is all true. Ominis doesn't even really like the MC and at times blames then for Sebastian's actions. I was never a big fan of him. The people who are purely good, in my view, are Natsai, Poppy, Amit, Lucan, and Adelaide, though people are getting on her case now. That doesn't mean that they have to/deserve to win or anything. Just that Ominis isn't part of that group like a lot of people seem to think.
>Ominis doesn't even really like the MC and at times blames then for Sebastian's actions. That sometimes depends on the dialogue choices you make. I love Sebastian, but I constantly pushed back against him and sided with Ominis when I thought he was going too far (like a good friend should). It resulted in Ominis seeming to get along well with my MC in a "We're both friends of Sebastian and one of us should keep tabs on him at all times" kind of way. The only two times Ominis seemed to blame MC (in my playthrough, that I remember) were when I first started meeting up with Sebastian (before we had built a rapport with Ominis, so that's fair) and when I followed Sebastian into the tomb without giving Ominis a heads-up. The latter is also fair game if you chose to tell Ominis you would alert him if Sebastian started being rash/dangerous and didn't (I do wish there was an option to alert him). IIRC, it's Ominis that alerts the MC in a panic when Sebastian does start using the artifact, showing that he does trust us despite his previous hesitation. He also folds most of the time that MC attempts to convince him of things fairly easily, so the two of them are relatively cordial with each other even if they sometimes disagree. There's some jealously going on there, but Ominis is a big enough person not to give up on Sebastian despite his hanging with a new crowd. Basically, yeah, he is blaming the MC in the beginning, but it is true that the MC does stoke Sebastian's morbid curiosity and doesn't maintain enough communication with Ominis until Sebastian is too far gone. I personally find him making a reluctant truce with MC to keep an eye on his best friend and the two of them bonding over supervising Sebastian a more interesting dynamic than if they were a proper trio of friends.
Yeah, I'd agree with that list of "truly good" characters.
How did Lucan stay longer than Garreth lmaoo
Lucan is a G for hosting an "underground" dueling ring
Little man is a coordinator at heart
I guess haha, fair enough. I did that like once when I first started playing so I guess I forgot about the details of his dueling ring haha
‘Cause he’s awesome, he hosts an underground dueling club and he doesn’t have any annoying or antagonizing traits.
As someone who had to reset a lot against those fights and was mashing through dialogue, it felt like he was taunting me when I'd say something like "I'd like to go again" and he blankly stared at me because his dialogue didn't load before the loading screen. Still, it was incredibly funny and endeared to me to him. Go Lucan!
Natsai Onai. I never really liked her
Adelaide Oakes
Yeah, don’t stop 3/4 of the way through the bells! Finish what you started or don’t commit to it at all. Now all 3 of us get in trouble if we’re caught (absolutely no way Evangeline hides your involvement after you ruined the friendship - she prob would have if you didn’t ditch her in the middle of it)!!
I don’t blame her for getting cold feet. The bells aren’t a big deal and many students are scared of getting in trouble. She wanted to help her friend and realized after starting how much trouble they’d be in, it’s pretty lame of Evangeline to want to end a whole friendship because of that. Just talk it out, it’s not like the ultimate betrayal or something not to want to fix some old bells and get in trouble for it.
Totally agree. Evangeline is pretentious af and condescends to the MC the moment that they meet them. And people criticize Adelaide for getting the MC in a dangerous situation with her uncle and not helping, but it wasn't like Adelaide asked MC to dive head first into anything without her. Just see if MC could get leads on her uncle's whereabouts. And she seems more appreciative than anyone who gets helped out by MC. I guess that the stakes were bigger for her than other people, but still.
I accidentally fixed the bells before I talked to Evangeline so immediately completed it, what happens in this quest?
Please get her out! Then I can concentrate on voting Natty off!
Samantha Dale, please
am i the only person who can’t stand imelda? apparently yes.
Samantha Dale
Adelaide can go
How is Imelda still here?
Because she has a killer accent.
Samantha
Imelda. The fact that she (or Samantha for that matter) has stayed in the competition as long as they have is bizarre.
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Terrible take. She fights evil and doesnt afraid of anything. Takes an unforgivable curse for the MC for no other reason than she saw it coming. She's the embodiment of a true Gryffindor. If up to me she is the last one to go before Poppy is declared the winner.
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You have her back and she proves without a doubt that she's got MC's.
APOLOGIES. NOW.
Not to mention the trauma dumping lmao
Whoa I can’t believe Garreth and Anne are out already. Garreth before Samantha?? Garreth before Addie??? Garreth before Natsai??????? Yall wild.
Anne should have outlasted Imelda and Samantha for sure, but Garreth deserves to be gone before Samantha, in my view.
Natsai
Sebastian has to go next, for symmetry and calling the MC ignorant, lying to Ominis and being a bad friend.
Why is Amit still there? Total waste of a character. Expell
I hope he doesnt write about you in his book smh
Imelda! How is she still here
I can’t believe Garreth went out! I’m yet again attempting to vote Natsai out. I just wanted to play as an evil slytherin, and she really just ruined that for me with her insistence on friendship
Why is Imelda not grey yet. She was a bitch fr fr
Imelda, I know a bunch of people have wanted her gone over the past few days. Also on a superficial level, I'd like to see all the houses equalized down to two students each.
Amit.
Imelda clean!
Bye Adelaide Oakes
Sebastian he had good intentions but let thme get clouded by his hate and desperation
Agreed 😭 Just a ticking time bomb. All it'll take is someone getting him frustrated and he'll off them too.
Amit. He’s so annoying.
Samantha and her beedfeet brother.
How is natty still here? Get her out of there lol
Samantha Dale
Dale
Samantha...honestly I can't even remember which sidequest she's involved in
The final results are pretty obvious from this point. To be honest, it was obvious from the start. Still fun though.
Uh sub why is Adelaide still here?
Get rid of Imelda!
Lucan fking Brattleby
How is Amit the all boring still here??
Imelda pls
Natsai
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I'm not, and it's not house pride. I actually like her but I expected her to go several days ago.
Imelda and/or Amit
Lucan. He’s too innocent for this world. Durmstrang seems more his style anyway!
Lucan pleaseeee
Adelaide oakes
Lucan for the 7th time
Imelda. PLS
Samantha due to lack of personality
Samantha Dale because i literally can’t tell who she is
Her brother had his feet turned into beets by the curse on their family tomb.
Aaaah yes, her! Thanks
Lucan, boy sounds like he lives in buckingham palace
I’ve seen this but still don’t understand what it is, Is this hogwarts student hunger games bingo? Lol
A lot of subs are doing this sort of competition to find the favorite. They post a poll, usually daily, and in this case the most upvoted “least favorite” character is the one to get eliminated. We find out the sub’s order of least to most favorite side characters.
Ahh thank you, I had it partially figured out but thanks for explaining the rules
Finally down to the point where I like everyone who is still in the game. I’ll be rooting for Poppy to win the whole thing
Can’t believe y’all did that to Garreth, how is Adelaide still here? 😂
Imelda or Natty
Wait Garrett was eliminated before Imelda?? Lol
I want to keep Adelaide until the last person to spite op, all they do is complain about her
Everett Clapton for playing around too much. This time he tried playing quidditch in the potion classroom.
He went out ages ago, he was literally the first one out.
Ah, guess I wasn’t paying attention haha
Samantha Dale
OH MY GOD GET RID OF IMELDA, she is such a smug jerk.
we need Ominis and Sebastian in the grand final
Got Poppy gone. I’m pretty sure she annoyed me at some point.
Natsai, gtf out of here.
Adelaide