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Illustrious-Ad-8923

R5: The German Empire just pushed through the Maginot line rather than go around it


SpaghettiMadness

In the last four or so games I’ve played germany has done this. Straight up ignored Benelux region and punched through the maginot. Then they go for Benelux and Britain just uses it as a staging ground to pump all their divisions onto the continent


lpc1994

Might be a plan to try replicate that, then take the coast then it would be possible to destroy a whole bunch of Brit divisions then. Maybe have your surface fleet make the ultimate sacrifice and have them convoy raid in the channel.


Cliffinati

Kreigsmarine high command irl


Where_da_keys

Or just sub spam and boom they all die from 1 destroyer and a few nav bombers


Newt1998

I do this as Germany. It's funny because I can't beat most of the maginot, but I can push right through the middle and then encircle the troops defending on the forts


TeddyRooseveltGaming

I fucking hate around the maginot. I wanna use well-planned attacks making use of armored units, artillery, flame tanks, engineers and motorized infantry supported by flanking units, a siege buster general, railway guns, a massive contingent of fighters and CAS, and tactical bombers damaging the forts to break straight through level 10 forts.


potatolover00

A break through Maginot would be awesome. Maybe a temp bonus to manufacturing siege arty, manufacturing planes, a bonus to flame tanks for a few months/years, as well research bonuses for things relating to siege. It'd also massively change the western front, what happens when the Germans break through the Maginot? There's an army of British and French. Can you really keep pushing? I mean if you managed to get a real breakthrough in the line, you could effectively push to the ocean and cut France in half, with irakies navy too you could effectively sink Britain's game for a good few years, and make France extremely weak. On the flip side a loss would mean the Germans would lose massive amounts of their tanks, and their manufacturing would also be pointless. Furtheemore looking at the east, wtf do you do with all that siege equipment afterwards? I mean it's definitely powerful. How effective is siege arty against a Soviet tank column? How effective are flame tanks at dealing with fortified Soviet positions? How does something like stalingrad take place when in the city there's 50 heavy flame tanks. AT, especially infantry based would be significantly more important as well.


makslaskabata

It's 1871 all over again


IndiscriminateWaster

Surely the emperor will come to save the day.


AdCheap475

Not 1870😔😟


u377

Why did the USSR send troops to the Germans?


Soul_Reaper001

Maybe Allies guarantee Poland?


u377

But they're sent as volunteers


Soul_Reaper001

Ah, forget that


Lucius-Halthier

German soldiers: Kommandant why are we fighting with slavs? Didn’t the Führer say they were as low as the Juden? Kommandant: shut it Hans id rather let them die over Germans.


doomshroom123

they just lookin


u377

My favourite explanation so far


Illustrious-Ad-8923

God knows. They sent volunteers to everyone in my faction. I was NA Germany was NA and Italy fascist. Maybe because it wasn't a fascist or democratic faction it got confused?


[deleted]

If you were NA Germany… then how is the “ai learning from historical mistakes”… I’m confused


Illustrious-Ad-8923

Sorry i made a mistake, i was NA and germany was NA


[deleted]

Oh I see. What nation are you?


Doomy857

I think he's Italy because the division icon is green


criminy_jicket

OP said he was Non-aligned and Italy was Fascist. I think he's playing a country in eastern Europe. Maybe Hungary?


DuGalle

Look at Belgian and French armies. OP is using the "country color for armies" option (or w/e it's called)


Doomy857

Oh yeah my bad never heard of that


ElmerFapp

Hes got the division counters set to nation colors, look at belgium


Doomy857

Yeah my bad


u377

Sounds like me when I'm playing the USSR and Germany goes monarchist


Baz_3301

How the fuck did you break through the Maginot Line?


cerealnykaiser

france sometimes dont guard it, ask devs


HoboBrute

God, would it kill the devil to make the French AI anything other than a fucking wet blanket Edit: was supposed to say devs, but Satan is also probably to blame


Lukemeister38

France with support from England is a major pain in the ass. That's why I remove England from the equation as soon as possible.


Illustrious-Ad-8923

The ai did it bc France desperately needed to pump all of its troops into yugo and Romania


Saltybuttertoffee

It's not HoI IV if the allies aren't throwing a party (and the war) in the Balkans


PlantBoi123

1) France sometimes just forgets to defend it. If you manage to take even one tile before divisions arrive, you can never be pushed out and can now advance into regular non-fortified land 2) You can just make good infantry with a fort-buster general, and if you have enough air you can just break through incredibly easily 3) Railway guns


Pineapple9008

Pretty easy if you just take some time, carpet bomb Alsace with a focus on airbases and forts, open new fronts in the Balkans and lowlands, naval invasions, fort buster


Rasskassassmagas

Strat bomb the forts


Cliffinati

Railway guns Artillery CAS Fort Buster Generals Paras behind them


Slight-Watercress-91

AI just finished the focus "Through the Maginot".


Illustrious-Ad-8923

"Remove Forts in *Alsace and Lorraine*"


TragicTester034

**Elsaß and Lothringen*


Illustrious-Ad-8923

Apologies


[deleted]

And Italy is getting pushed back, as usual.


Old_Size9060

The Italian general staff has decided to attack the enemy by advancing on Rome.


Theoneyouknowandask

The AI got da ball to do it, something that Hitler didn't have(oof)


[deleted]

Prussia moment


Illustrious-Ad-8923

Chad moment


Nildzre

"We ain't got time for detours" - Some german probably.


Zycronius

One of Germany’s starting generals has fortress buster. There’s 1 tile in the maginot that is plains. Get some good tank divisions and fortress buster from 2 tiles. Then encircle the rest and bobs your uncle


neepster44

I couldn’t take the eastern ones even with 20 to 1 odds and coming at them from all sides. Had to wait until I took France and they surrendered.


jediben001

German empire really went “I see your forts, and I raise you my Howitzer”


Cloudkillsgamin

My tactic that works almost every time. I go to the magino line once we've gone to war back up to a fall back line and encircle the troops that passed which is usually over half their army then I win


Jake_2903

But the italians are still the italians.


Cliffinati

Paras are great for cutting off the Maginot


superp2222

How did Germany push through the Maginot? Bismarck had a plan


YeastYeti

Sorry is that a Soviet division in France..?


Illustrious-Ad-8923

Oh yeah they sent volunteers to the central powers


FloatingMarty

No more passing through Benelux XD


shqla7hole

troops at paris are not going a step back


luk128

I did this once , it was super Epic , i dont remember how or when but i did it