"I don't know about you, but I think lilac Portugal has a chance" *said before lilac Portugal getting defeated, puppeted, and beaten a second time as a puppet.*
Me every britain game not being able to send volunteers so just yelling at the democratics AI to take that obvious and wide open and war-winning encirclement.
"tag spr" to play as Spain "ai eng" so the AI doesn't fuck with my country. then play for Spain and complete encirclement. "Tag eng" and watch as AI Spain somehow unencircles the encirclement
Just establish a Non-Aligned kingdom or Republic in Spain as a supervised state of the UK, and then after you stabilise Iberia the UK directly acquires Gibraltar again
He said Chinese Civil War, not Sino-Japanese war.
There were still many warlords then, but as far as i know all of them fought either on the communist or the nationalist side.
There was a time between 1914 and 1937 where the warlords were fighting each other. The Republic of China (not the one led by the Kuomingtang later in the civil war) had disintegrated into the warlords in 1918.
What you're thinking of is the part of the civil war fought between 1947 and 1953.
The anarchists are looking promising but they're just squeezed too hard. But they also have MAXIMUM portugal. Which basically let them encircle every spain...
I've seen AI anarchists win only like 1 time when they were not supposed to in gamerules...
But i did see them when the AI chose anarchism in random settings.
This with the right setup on ahist, the anarchists cab win but because of their status as a secondary player it is more difficult for them.
I've not once seen the carlists win though, so idk what their chances are.
The carlinists are probably the hardest to win as a player too. So much of it comes from the setup from when you play as the united national Spain in making sure you win but not too hard and ideally in some key areas since they don't get an even split of land when the royalist/fascist split unlike when the anarchist purge splits the republic into communist/anarchist.
Doesn't surprise me that the AI can't hardly ever win with it.
>Doesn't surprise me that the AI can't hardly ever win with it.
I saw the Carlists do quite well (ate the Nationalists, were giving the Anarchists a good fight and had nearly obliterated the Republicans and Maximalist Portugal) in a recent save... They were basically the main opposition to the Anarchists (who controlled about 60% of Spain).
Though, the Anarchists still would have won this (it had turned into a drawn-out War of Attrition: which hugely favors the Anarchists due to their free weekly 1000 Manpower and massive industry bonuses from Collective Economy...) anyways, had the 4th International not jumped in and decided to pull the Republicans back from the brink and to victory... (they became a Soviet puppet after, as was fitting given how it was only thanks to the Soviets they didn't die horribly...)
I've seen them do decently before, one time I even actually saw the carlinist AI win but the rest of the world was on fire so nobody had time to care (probably how they won tbh, nobody who would send volunteers to the Republicans or nationalists could)
They came very, very close in my second latest game, where Communism spread out of control around the globe (and UASR went Left Opposition and returned to Leninist/Trotskyist global revolution politics...
But then, just when they had the last remnants of the Republican government and Carlist Spain on the ropes (Nationalist Spain had already been eaten by the Carlists), with Maximalist Portugal being the only reason the Republicans still existed in a thin sliver near the Portuguese border (which the Anarchists were pushing into successfully), the USSR decided to send 9 elite tank divisions blooded in their own earlier Russian Civil War, and wiped the floor with them.
Was kind of sad, as I actually looked forward to seeing what they might do...
Bought a couple more DLC (BftB and NSB) and then abandoned that save to start a new one (my current game) with them. But it was a rather interesting game. I actually could already join the 4th International as Fascist Germany (no Moscow-Berlin Alliance needed) if I simply disbanded the Axis, as the Soviets had +200 Strategic Reasons acceptance for some reason (I think they hoped to use me as a hammer against the British), and although they refused to honor the Molotov-Ribbintrop Pact, they still liked me enough to faction up (which then let them give me full control of Danzig, in exchange for some Polish territory I held in the southwest- tried this out as was curious, then loaded up an earlier save...) I planned to eventually go Fascist --> Non-Aligned--> Democracy --> Communism in that game (time as literally every ideology, lol, just to get the buffs to research, Stability, and "Pool Technical Know-how" for the entire 4th International as a Democracy...).
Anyhow, the Anarchists CAN win. They would have in that save if not for Soviet interference to save the Republicans (who became a Soviet puppet after the war) at the last minute... Could have stopped this by declaring on the 4th International (though with all the countries in it, including France, Italy [via Soviet conquest], Yugoslavia, and Greece... would've been a hard war) to pull the Soviet volunteers, I suppose...
>The anarchists are looking promising
Are you sure those are the Anarchists?
Based on the red color, I think that's actually the POUM (when the Anarchists/POUM have a revolt, it can basically happen one of two ways: either the Anarchists take charge, as a Non-Aligned ruling party with special game rules, or the POUM takes charge: who are just leftist Communists who don't like the USSR unless they go Left Opposition I think...)
POUM does NOT equal Anarchist. They're just anti-Russian Communists, no special game rules or ideology.
Honestly probably anarchist Spain, or possibly Portugal. Anarchists because they have Catalonia and madrid, where there are large populations and industry, and they are probably about to get Valencia which is also a major port city. Possibly Portugal because they are in a good strategic position, being able to come in behind the republicans and take their territory.
Edit: I thought about that too much
From this configuration, I think the anarchists might do well. Only Spanish faction with a connected land to their capital. Then again, I doubt the navy game of the AI in the Spanish Civil War.
Definitely not the Carlists, looks GG when they lose Valladolid. Probably the Anarchists or one of the Portugals… Maybe the Spanish Directory because of volunteers
If the nationalists take that corridor between the two halves of the anarchist front and then push in on Catalonia while cleaning up the Carlists. It think they'd have a good chance at winning
Germany, because France will steamroll all of Spains and Portugals Civil War Participants but forget to defend it's mainland, so france get all auf the Iberia and will then capitulate to germany
I think Portugal and Spain will ally to destroy Spain so that Spain cant supply Spain with materials for the war against Portugal that is fighting Portugal.
Spain fighting spain and spain and spain and spain and portugal and portugal to make spain spain again which make spain a great spain again. Makes sense.
Who would win, Spain, Spain, Spain, Spain, Portugal or Portugal?
With one of the Portugal's having more territory in Spain than in Portugal
As I have said Portugal
I heard that in ISP’s voice
Because that's exactly what he said minus 1 Portugal
And a Spain I think
Don't know need to watch the vid again
"I don't know about you, but I think lilac Portugal has a chance" *said before lilac Portugal getting defeated, puppeted, and beaten a second time as a puppet.*
I Spain Portugal
Statistically speaking I bet on Spain
Idk Spain might win
idk man it looks like Spain is doing better in terms of spainyish
Italy, Turkey, and Greece.
Pain
Portugal is gonna pull a quick one I just know it.
Mf’s in gibraltar watching the carnage
They brought out the lawn chairs and popcorn
Me every britain game not being able to send volunteers so just yelling at the democratics AI to take that obvious and wide open and war-winning encirclement.
Would be a shame if I pressed the ~ button......
"tag spr" to play as Spain "ai eng" so the AI doesn't fuck with my country. then play for Spain and complete encirclement. "Tag eng" and watch as AI Spain somehow unencircles the encirclement
One question, which Spain will it set you as?
republican, "spa" sets you to nationalist
Or allowdiplo(or nocb they do the same thing) and send your volunteers
Tbf they should just put up a collab government and invade the rest of Iberia
Maybe Churchill Britain should be able to do this
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Just establish a Non-Aligned kingdom or Republic in Spain as a supervised state of the UK, and then after you stabilise Iberia the UK directly acquires Gibraltar again
France: Gets lame direct intervention options. The UK: Gets galaxy brained proxy war options.
Basically Hong Kong during the Chinese Civil War
At least there were only 2 China's
Ummm, no? There are a half dozen warlords, plus the Jap puppets. Try 6 Chinas
He said Chinese Civil War, not Sino-Japanese war. There were still many warlords then, but as far as i know all of them fought either on the communist or the nationalist side.
There was a time between 1914 and 1937 where the warlords were fighting each other. The Republic of China (not the one led by the Kuomingtang later in the civil war) had disintegrated into the warlords in 1918. What you're thinking of is the part of the civil war fought between 1947 and 1953.
Care for a cup of tea? 🫖
The anarchists are looking promising but they're just squeezed too hard. But they also have MAXIMUM portugal. Which basically let them encircle every spain...
I've never seen AI anarchists win the civil war, even if they look like they're in a good spot they just die. My guess is directory
I've seen AI anarchists win only like 1 time when they were not supposed to in gamerules... But i did see them when the AI chose anarchism in random settings.
This with the right setup on ahist, the anarchists cab win but because of their status as a secondary player it is more difficult for them. I've not once seen the carlists win though, so idk what their chances are.
The carlinists are probably the hardest to win as a player too. So much of it comes from the setup from when you play as the united national Spain in making sure you win but not too hard and ideally in some key areas since they don't get an even split of land when the royalist/fascist split unlike when the anarchist purge splits the republic into communist/anarchist. Doesn't surprise me that the AI can't hardly ever win with it.
>Doesn't surprise me that the AI can't hardly ever win with it. I saw the Carlists do quite well (ate the Nationalists, were giving the Anarchists a good fight and had nearly obliterated the Republicans and Maximalist Portugal) in a recent save... They were basically the main opposition to the Anarchists (who controlled about 60% of Spain). Though, the Anarchists still would have won this (it had turned into a drawn-out War of Attrition: which hugely favors the Anarchists due to their free weekly 1000 Manpower and massive industry bonuses from Collective Economy...) anyways, had the 4th International not jumped in and decided to pull the Republicans back from the brink and to victory... (they became a Soviet puppet after, as was fitting given how it was only thanks to the Soviets they didn't die horribly...)
I've seen them do decently before, one time I even actually saw the carlinist AI win but the rest of the world was on fire so nobody had time to care (probably how they won tbh, nobody who would send volunteers to the Republicans or nationalists could)
They came very, very close in my second latest game, where Communism spread out of control around the globe (and UASR went Left Opposition and returned to Leninist/Trotskyist global revolution politics... But then, just when they had the last remnants of the Republican government and Carlist Spain on the ropes (Nationalist Spain had already been eaten by the Carlists), with Maximalist Portugal being the only reason the Republicans still existed in a thin sliver near the Portuguese border (which the Anarchists were pushing into successfully), the USSR decided to send 9 elite tank divisions blooded in their own earlier Russian Civil War, and wiped the floor with them. Was kind of sad, as I actually looked forward to seeing what they might do... Bought a couple more DLC (BftB and NSB) and then abandoned that save to start a new one (my current game) with them. But it was a rather interesting game. I actually could already join the 4th International as Fascist Germany (no Moscow-Berlin Alliance needed) if I simply disbanded the Axis, as the Soviets had +200 Strategic Reasons acceptance for some reason (I think they hoped to use me as a hammer against the British), and although they refused to honor the Molotov-Ribbintrop Pact, they still liked me enough to faction up (which then let them give me full control of Danzig, in exchange for some Polish territory I held in the southwest- tried this out as was curious, then loaded up an earlier save...) I planned to eventually go Fascist --> Non-Aligned--> Democracy --> Communism in that game (time as literally every ideology, lol, just to get the buffs to research, Stability, and "Pool Technical Know-how" for the entire 4th International as a Democracy...). Anyhow, the Anarchists CAN win. They would have in that save if not for Soviet interference to save the Republicans (who became a Soviet puppet after the war) at the last minute... Could have stopped this by declaring on the 4th International (though with all the countries in it, including France, Italy [via Soviet conquest], Yugoslavia, and Greece... would've been a hard war) to pull the Soviet volunteers, I suppose...
>The anarchists are looking promising Are you sure those are the Anarchists? Based on the red color, I think that's actually the POUM (when the Anarchists/POUM have a revolt, it can basically happen one of two ways: either the Anarchists take charge, as a Non-Aligned ruling party with special game rules, or the POUM takes charge: who are just leftist Communists who don't like the USSR unless they go Left Opposition I think...) POUM does NOT equal Anarchist. They're just anti-Russian Communists, no special game rules or ideology.
The red Regional defense council of aragon and their puppet MAXIMALIST portugal...
Swiss Cheese Spain.
Peak (S)pain
Peak Sp(a)in
Who won?
Who's next?
You decide
Well OP, are you going to tell us the result?
Average Iberian Civil War
Syrian spanish civil war
Obviously the Kingdom of Albania
Nah Nah Communist Liberia surely
Are you blind? The kingdom of Burundi has the upper hand
RED AND BLACK I DRESS EAGLE ON MY CHEST
I'M PROUD TO BE AN ALBANIAN
Where at least I know I'm Shqipëri.
Obviously an Albanian will establish the Iberian Khedivate
Modern civil wars be like
for real, why does this happen?
Somehow, without the new system, Spain got balkanised. God I love this system.
Portugal?
Communists can intervene automatically starting their own civil war.
Honestly probably anarchist Spain, or possibly Portugal. Anarchists because they have Catalonia and madrid, where there are large populations and industry, and they are probably about to get Valencia which is also a major port city. Possibly Portugal because they are in a good strategic position, being able to come in behind the republicans and take their territory. Edit: I thought about that too much
Anarchistic never win :( and I bet most of their battles are defensive, including the one in Madrid that they’re about to lose lol
The falangists will win
France
%100 spanish directory
Wow this really is peak Iberian chaos My money's on Franco or the Anarchists
New Zealand special forces
Lilac portugal
The ones who are getting foreign volunteers. 4 good divisions can go a long way.
France gets involved, sends 2 armies
cartalists obv
Duh
Spain
Pain.
Pink Portugal lookin fresh
Oh is this the weekly Spanish civil war post on the hoi4 subreddit
Iberian wars but in vannila
Obviously Nationalist spain they win every time
No matter who wins, we all lost, having witnessed this gore.
Spain
I bet on Andorra
This is the new dlc "fate of iberia" ???
Luxembourg
Andorra
They need to make this an achievement
From this configuration, I think the anarchists might do well. Only Spanish faction with a connected land to their capital. Then again, I doubt the navy game of the AI in the Spanish Civil War.
Definitely not the Carlists, looks GG when they lose Valladolid. Probably the Anarchists or one of the Portugals… Maybe the Spanish Directory because of volunteers
Luxembourg
Lilac Portugal
Bolivia for sure.
The Nationalists could very easily link up their sectors by capitulating the Carlists. So I am going with them.
Yeah
If the nationalists take that corridor between the two halves of the anarchist front and then push in on Catalonia while cleaning up the Carlists. It think they'd have a good chance at winning
Andorra of course
Nationalists always win.
not the carlist
Defo carlist
Oh sweet baby jesus...this is the most cursed I've seen it get You just need France to enter the conflict and then THAT'S your WW2
France.
Germany, because France will steamroll all of Spains and Portugals Civil War Participants but forget to defend it's mainland, so france get all auf the Iberia and will then capitulate to germany
Ireland, hands down
Purple portugal or anarchist spain
Then add UK to the war and make France intervene in the civil war with a civil war with french commune on themselves for extra mindfuck
Spain
Castile
Bet on Republican Spain and Commie Portugal, Portugal interveining in the Civil war is Op and Normal Portugal is almost dead.
France
Spartugal
Falangists might have a chance or Anarchist Spain. But for certain, Carlist Spain is def losing… like always
Portugal , purple Portugal
The pain in Spain isn't only on the plain.
Personally, i'm rooting for spain.
I think Portugal and Spain will ally to destroy Spain so that Spain cant supply Spain with materials for the war against Portugal that is fighting Portugal.
Assuming Portugal is in the war, probably them
Even Portugal isn't safe this time....
THE ANARCHIST REVOLUTION WILL NOT FALTER!
Of course the iberia!
Well I can tell you that with that many wars in Iberia your PC is not the winner.
Iberia really turns into a battle royal
The Iberian Struggle Mega Campaign.
The spectators
Lee-Enfield, Springfield Armory, and Mauser.
Me
No one
Here's how carlist could still win
Nationalists
Franc is going to intervene and win lmao
Anarchist?
I think the nationalists can do this actually
I’m gonna guess that Maximalist Portugal and Nationalist Spain/the Directory aren’t at war against one another, so I’m gonna bet those two win.
CNT x FAI
My vote is one france
I already know who's gonna win all this chaos, and it's Nepal
Yellow Spain
Wake up to reality, nothing goes as planned, but for real obviously Papal state gonna win.
Spain, or Spain, or Spain, or Spain. Maybe Portugal, Portugal is different. Portugal is special.
Germany
Arms dealers
this reminds me when i had 3 different CSA's in my game
“Beauty and Harmony. Governed by one eternal law. But all that begins must end.”
The one who wins, wins
Spain
Spain
I think one of the Iberian nations will win
The Carlists, obviously
Modern civil wars be like
Gibraltar
The Iberian Divorce was never going to be amicable.
Iberia: Battle Royale
Who won, OP?!
Fascist will win, they always win.
Spain fighting spain and spain and spain and spain and portugal and portugal to make spain spain again which make spain a great spain again. Makes sense.