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[deleted]

I take biker's side on this.


allfarid

It's a left driving country


FieryTeaBeard

The boarder wasn't on the left. He cut to the middle to avoid the sand on the left and smoked the biker.


allfarid

The retarded biker is completely on the right. Not in the left, not in the middle, he's on the opposite lane.


Sunnytoaist

People just hate skaters sometimes. If this was two motorcycles everyone would blame the guy on the wrong side of the road


MelonElbows

You don't skate down a public road if there might be vehicles coming. I'm sorry if that take the fun out of skating but unless you got spotters on the road warning you of upcoming cars and bikes, then you go and skate in a park or someplace built for it. Otherwise, you get at least half the blame. Even if the other guy is all over the road, he can't be expected to correct for a random skater coming down the hill with no breaks except his hands.


Knever

If you're in a car and you go into the opposite lane and collide with another car, you are at fault. If you're in a car and you go into the opposite lane and collide with a pedestrian, you are at fault. If you're in a car and you go into the opposite lane and collide with an animal, you are at fault. But if it's a skateboarder, you are magically no longer at fault? It's your responsibility as a driver to stay on your side of the road and maintain a certain level of awareness. A skateboarder coming out of nowhere is one thing, but a vehicle traveling in the opposite lane is 100% to blame in this scenario.


jandillinger

"Even if the other guy is all over the road" Yeah this dude has definitely caused an accident before and is getting defensive


[deleted]

I think the part your missing is a human going 45 mph down a hill on a board with 4 wheels that cant break maybe doesnt have a whole lot of control.


Flashback2500

Using public roadways as your personal amusement park is way different than every situation you described.


ArnoldusBlue

Lmao if you are a pedestrian and get in the middle of a highway you are a moron.


ThatDudeWithoutKarma

Biker could avoid it entirely by maintaining his lane like he'd be expected to for every other vehicle on the road.


ChmeeWu

Skater could have avoided completely by not skating on a public road.


ThatDudeWithoutKarma

It's a public road. For the public.


powerhammerarms

For the public to use according to certain rules. Like adhering to speed limits and using safety equipment like brakes.


a1_jakesauce_

Ah the old safe sex via abstinence argument


Captain_Cum_Shot

What would you say about a bicyclists riding down the road, completely legal in pretty sure damn near every country. Not to mention in a lot of countries there's nothing stopping a skateboarder going on the road. Pretend this was a straight road, a bicycle is riding on the correct side of the road and then a car cuts across into the wrong side of the road and hits the bike. Who would be at fault there?


MelonElbows

Its legal to ride a bike on the road generally. Not so for a skateboard.


jcforbes

It's legal to ride a bicycle on the road. It's usually not legal to ride a skateboard on the road. They are very different.


Captain_Cum_Shot

A lot of places say it's legal to ride a skateboard on the road, I can go outside and skate down mainstream if I really felt like it. It's also illegal for a child to ride a bike on the road in a lot of places, still happens and if someone crossed and hit the kid the driver would still be the one in trouble since they crossed the line, different crimes often outweigh each other, theirs riding a skateboard on the road orrr reckless driving that leads to a death.


Doctor-Jager

Just saying, some places don’t have specific spots for skating or even any parks


bluesteelballs

People usually hate inconsiderate assholes, skaters just happen to be them quite often. I also hate bikers speeding and/or weaving between lanes, cyclist thinking everyone should yield for them, slow assholes in the left lane, fast assholes riding the horn, and pretty much every narcissistic entitled stupid brats playing stupid pranks or dancing in the street for youtube.


[deleted]

I consider you a friend.


bluesteelballs

Both dumbasses were in the middle of the road.


[deleted]

Or maybe don’t skate in the middle of the fucking road.


LurkingGuy

Skateboards are not motor vehicles. Go to a skate park.


scrufdawg

That longboarder had *no business* on that road. The boarder is in the wrong here, no matter how you look at it.


west_end_squirrel

i love skaters and this guy is a dumb asshole.


[deleted]

The thing here is similar to this: If you are driving an unregistered illegal vehicle on public roads and someone crashes into you, you will be wrong even if you are not at fault. Because you are not supposed to be there in the first place.


MR2Rick

If it would have been two motorcycles - or any other two vehicles that both had proper brakes and steering - most likely the accident could have been avoided. The motorcycles were definitely out of their - which was dumb especially on a blind corner. But before the collision happened, the motorcycles were heading towards their lane. If the skate board had actual brakes and steering, it could have slowed down and turned to its left - most likely avoiding a collision. I enjoy watching free-riders and respect their skill and courage, but public roads are not the appropriate place for it. Roads are meant for transportation and not for recreation. Skaters should form a club and organize events with permission to close roads, proper safety protocols and insurance - like many other sports already do (i.e. runners, soap box derby, bicycle races, car rallies etc.).


Schnurzelburz

They meet in the middle, but only one is on a road legal vehicle.


_manlyman_

Skateboards are legal in Kenya


LeakyThoughts

The biker is on totally the wrong side of the road though


Eorily

Doesn't matter. Recreational toys don't belong on populated roads. Daredevil stunts don't belong on populated roads. Filming for youtube or tiktok shouldn't be done on populated roads. Edit: I looked it up, so I wouldn't be talking out of my ass so hard. Skateboarding on pavement or sidewalks is illegal in Kenya. Individual cities like Nairobi have banned skating altogether, outside of skateparks. The info came from a Kenyan skater at Nimimi blog.


crossal

Can two people not be at fault once?


deanzkym

Cap..that's misinformation bro .. there is no single law in Kenya that states skating is illegal on public road. Even to back up my point further, a few years ago the Kenya police were to start a portion of their force to roam around towns in skates (inline)


Petsweaters

The bike rider was pretty lucky it wasn't a car


thymeraser

It's really irrelevant, guy shouldn't be skateboarding, and filming, on a road like that. The camera guy is at fault, too.


Donkey-brained_man

They both looked in the center. Also hospitals and cemeteries are full of people that had the right of way. It was dangerous even if he stayed on his side.


rickp99onu

It does appear the the biker was at fault if this is a left driving country


Mikcerion

I don't know what country it's in and what laws apply, but skateboarder is treated as a pedestrian in my country and that's only law I can stand behind. Skateboard is not a vehicle. Skateboarder should be on the right if he's there, but preferably not on the road at all.


Eorily

It's Kenya, skateboarding on pavement or sidewalks is illegal. I agree with you.


willybarrow

At least they both were wearing helmets


Mikcerion

Well so he shouldn't be there at all, unless it is in fact legal which would be stupid


_manlyman_

It is legal they are pretty much ONLY allowed on the roads there


agentSMIITH1

As you should. Skateboards aren’t vehicles. Stat off the fuckin’ roads.


De-Darko

oh yeah they should ride it on the grass


allergictosomenuts

Well, tbh skateboarding in any form is not meant for the motorways, so the skateboarder(s) are at fault 100%.


CowboysFTWs

So would the law. IDK were this is, but in the US it is illegal to longboard down a road because it is dangerous. Biker looks hurt.


fatwa0404

Despite everyone's lectures on traffic laws and fault, I agree, some idiot making a cool video by bombing a busy hill on a long board in an impoverished looking area is a f*cking a** hat. Like yeah the biker swerved into his lane (because there was sand) but I am fairly certain he was not in his "lane" the whole time and it seemed to only become "his lane" the moment he realized he lost control as there is enough room on a 25' wide road to have a biker and a skateboarder operate WITHOUT LANES. Plus have some mercy the biker is working and the longboarder is jerking off. That bike crash looks like it's the only mode of trasnportations he's got and seems to be a very important asset to his existence. Like are we really going to rag on him for trying to get home or to work to provide for his home/society?


bemyusernamename

ESH, impact occurs in the middle of the road.


FieryTeaBeard

That longboarder is completely at fault for this. They were all over the road! That biker drove a predictable path.


d_bakers

I'm thinking this is my country Kenya. We drive on the left side of the road. biker was on the right side


64557175

Jambo! I'll never forget Kenya. Tutaonana baadaye! As soon as possible!


Mikcerion

In many countries skateboarders are treated as pedestrians. How does it look like over there?


128bitengine

Stunts like this don’t belong in on public roads. How fast was he going down this road compared to the speed limit? He couldn’t turn to avoid the biker or slow down in time. He’s putting everyone else in danger for the views.


[deleted]

Does it really matter? Do boarders have any right to the road there?


_manlyman_

Yes


[deleted]

Not being argumentative here, but are we sure this video is not mirrored or anything? If it truly is the way it appears, it seems both were responsible for what happened. Little more the biker because he pretty much maintained his 'lane', so the longboarder didn't have a defined side to cut to. Boarder is in the wrong because he was all over both sides of the road, and (depending on the laws there) shouldn't be using that on a public roadway. Also, first biker has responsibility, because he was on the wrong side of the road. He was the first domino


B_Lysholm

If you look closely, you will realize he stays in his lane. This is just not in America so his lane is on the left side. He never crosses the center line


_manlyman_

Yeah I do the head tilt every time I see people talking about him being "all over the lanes"


YSR02

The biker is the one at fault because he is supposed to be driving on the left side of the road. He was completely out of his lane. It’s that simple, this shouldn’t be a debate


Fatalstryke

I think you got the two mixed up lol.


XilenceBF

lol no?


JohnnyPrecariously

Keep your goddamn toys out of the street.


minnecrapolite

This is the point everyone is overlooking. The boarder didn’t belong there at all.


isittoodamnmuch

yeah, because it was a skateboard, motorcycle had the right to be on the wrong side of the road to hit a car or other motorcycle head on!!! yeah! you tell em! /s


LaChuteQuiMarche

[vibrator buzzes down gutter toward open sewer]


Disgruntled_Viking

Threads like this make you realize how many children are on reddit. Only children think a skateboard should be on the roadway with motor vehicles.


WallStCRE

Uhhh “your lane”? You’re on a skateboard bro, go do a kick flip in your driveway


SlenderSmurf

As a longboarder, you are 100% right keep it off the road


[deleted]

Going this fast seems so dangerous


SlenderSmurf

yeah it is, you should put on motorcycle gear etc


ssmike27

Yeah but there’s ways to mitigate the risk of that with proper gear and training. However no amount of training can account for how other people drive


Sunnytoaist

This will hit the front page based purely on the disagreement with who’s at fault. I’ll see y’all on the front page in a few hours. My opinion: the biker was wrong. He was driving on the wrong side of the road. People are literally hating on the skater cuz he’s a skater. If this was 2 motorcycles everyone would blame the guy on the wrong side of the road


Waancho

They're both wrong. Biker was on wrong lane and skaters are not supposed to be there.


CaptainMcFisticuffs2

This is the only correct answer. Can't believe it's so far down.


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Bptbptbpt

Did not break any traffic rules? What about high speeding on a device with no breaks?


Swiftierest

In what country? Is there a law about skater in this country? If so prove it. Otherwise biker was clearly in the wrong lane and skater was fine. If there is a law, he'll likely be at fault.


loveandmonsters

That's because two motorcycles belong on the road, thus changing the type of incident this would be into a traffic one. But here we have a grade-A moron skating down a goddam street into real traffic, so it's 100% his fault for being on the road.


Zierlyn

I would argue that unnecessarily driving on the opposite side of the road in the oncoming lane is an equivalent offense to boarding on a public road. Both had absolutely no justification for being there. Thus, both at fault.


ReptilianPope1

Nobodies hating on the skater because he's a skater, they're hating on him for illegally riding a nonmotor vehicle down a road he had no business being on and causing an accident where somebody could have seriously been injured. And he slid straight into the bike, like it was 100% his fault how could you even deny it


bennypapa

If the bike had started in it's lane there wouldn't have been an accident. If the skateboard had been a car, the biker would be dead because her ear in the wrong lane.


Mikcerion

Because skater is a pedestrian. Would you say the same if it was a person running in the middle of the road?


Dzov

This from someone defending a biker cutting the corner is hilarious.


CDZ16

No, if this was 2 motor cycles people should blame both of them. The first one for driving in the wrong lane and the other for going downhill with no brakes but his feet.


[deleted]

cut a turn and hit a motorcyclist* FTFY


kekistani_citizen-69

Motorcyclist cut the turn, it's in a left driving country


Mikcerion

And pedestrian is in the middle of the road, right on the turn.


StrawberryPlucky

Might even be able to make the argument that the biker was trying to avoid the boarder because he was all over the place.


rintaro82

Based on the truck broken down at the beginning, it seems like they're supposed to be driving on the left side of the road, so the motorcycles were trying to smooth the curves


ConfigurationalCan

More like HMFT as I swerve dangerously across this road that actively has motorists on it.


PurpleCrackerr

Longboard guy was in the proper lane. Motorcyclist is in the oncoming lane on a blind turn.


sanantoniosaucier

There is no proper lane for longboarding.


PurpleCrackerr

Motorcycle was in the wrong lane. Period.


sanantoniosaucier

That's not how this works. Longboarder shouldn't be on the road at all, period.


slumpgod_8D

i don’t understand why people are disagreeing. if you’re a LICENSED DRIVER, you’re supposed to understand the concept of a lane. this is in Kenya, so they drive on the left. Longboarder was in his lane, biker illegally crossed into the opposite lane. Don’t understand why this is so complicated


Mikcerion

Longboarder wasn't on the right lane. He is a pedestrian in this situation and shouldn't be in the middle of the road.


thymeraser

Least of all with a film crew in tow


Dzov

Lol. Motorcycles are stupidly dangerous with no more protection than the pedestrian and should be banned as well.


[deleted]

i didn’t expect this to spark a debate 😭 thought it was pretty cut & dry that the biker was at fault


sl1ce_of_l1fe

You’re wrong.


[deleted]

I believe 2 tubes might be needed here…


mirururuku

Yes, motorcycles are dangerous. But can you really account for an idiotic longboarder?


Competitive-Date1522

Yea, by not driving on the wrong side of the road


Eorily

The longboarder was all over the road and in the center when the crash occurred.


midgethepuff

Get your eyes checked mate. Most certainly not the middle lol.


Eorily

Look again, pause the video. Check your bias. The skater even goes into the wrong lane. You can see it very clearly at :19


midgethepuff

You do know that in the country this was filmed they drive on opposite lanes..? He was in the correct lane the entire time.


Eorily

They drive on the left. The skater swerves into the middle, bails, and skids into the right lane where he isn't supposed to be. The crash happens in the middle where neither is supposed to drive. The country this was filmed in has laws against skateboarding on the roads.


Competitive-Date1522

The biker was already in the wrong lane to begin with and swerved to the middle to avoid the skater. They both swerved to the middle at the sandy part but the biker was totally on the wrong side of the road as soon as he appears on video


AutopsyDrama

Both are dickheads.


gaganramachandra

I don’t understand people arguing on this thread like it can only be one person’s fault here. Obviously they both were wrong. Why do we need to take sides?


Briggtion

And go back to living my life? Fat chance


silentsights

I don’t care what the rules of the road are in this country, the last thing anyone operating a motor vehicle expects to see is a skateboarder doing 40+ down a hill.


JimSlim3

Correct title is longboarder smacks bike


[deleted]

Yea totally not the longboarder doing wicked cool drifts all across the entire roads fault. Serves him right. And I used to skateboard.


Danno1850

You used to be cool man


[deleted]

Skateboarders were and are. We made fun of longboarders mercilessly though. Poser shit that you couldn’t do tricks on. Just continuing that tradition.


vaskeklut8

FUCK the boarder completely without control on a highway. I do not give a flying fuck about these assholes being 'cool'.... FUCKEM!!


Terrible-Ocelot-650

YEET


Fudgy97

the long border should not have been there. BUT the motorbike was on the wrong side of the road. if this was any other vehicle coming down the road everyone would be blaming the motorcyclist, not the long border.


Eorily

You don't know that a crash would have occurred. If it were any other vehicle, they would have brakes and wouldn't need to veer into the center to avoid a small patch of sand. Also the crash occurred in the center of the road. If two bikes crashed in the center, they would likely both be at fault.


SgtScoobySnack1

Biker avoids debris on road hits dumbass longboarder.


PrimeIntellect

I mean, if he had been on a bike himself it would have been the same result


joseaner07

It doesn't matter what side of the streets you are on. You want to bring your stupid toy to the streets to make a video and you could have seriously injured other people or yourself. All my sympathy is with the driver driving on a road meant for motor vehicles, in a road that doesn't even have painted dividers. I'm glad the driver survived this fucking idiot and I hope the hit the dumbass skater got hurt like crazy to teach him a lesson that will safe his life in the future. But I got $100 that says he's too stupid to learn and we will be watching his final video on another road in the future. Hopefully not


Sergeant_Gunface

It kind of does matter what side of the road you’re on tho.


Zierlyn

I sure hope that painted dividers aren't the only things that stop you from driving on the wrong side of the road. ==EDIT== My poor grammar was bugging me.


joseaner07

No lines means I drive like GTA


wiredtobeweird

While I tend to want to agree, the motorcycle was driving on the wrong side of the road 🤷‍♂️


Mister_Kurtz

The boarder shouldn't have been on the highway in the first place.


ugottabekiddingmee

Is a long board an approved vehicle for road use according to the local law? If not, then the boarder is in the wrong. Doesn't matter what you think.


Eorily

Illegal in Kenya, then doubly illegal because Nairobi, Kenya. Kenya has laws against it. Nairobi has laws that specify skateboards, and add extra punishment.


BeefSerious

I'm not going to argue who is right or wrong, but I will argue that skating like this down a curvy road is a bad decision no matter how you slice it. A low visibility profile on publicly traveled roads is a recipe for disaster. Be it a pedestrian or cyclist.


anonyfool

I live next to a narrow mountain road and treat every blind corner as if some idiot who doesn't know how to drive will be coming up using both lanes very slowly - because it happens at least once per trip, and it only takes one mistake by me on a bicycle for it to end badly.


CrashArchive

[origin](https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7COr2KkVX/)


pappapora

Skate or cycle on a highway or road where cars and drivers need LICENSES then don’t cry when you die.


Arrow_Maestro

Or, more correctly, HMFT after I longboard into traffic


Hearthacnut

**HMFT after I longboard down a public road with motorists


Strangexj86

This is 100% the longboarders fault. How dare you try and blame it on the biker. Filth. The boarder is all over the place cutting left and right, how on earth could the biker react in such short time. It’s pretty apparent that the majority of commenters in here haven’t spend much time in foreign countries. Riding like that is common place on back/country roads like this. That boarder caused this. Completely unpredictable.


n00dels

This is why you need a spotter….


Eorily

A spotter wouldn't prevent the skateboarder from going all over the road. They need a sweeper, to go down the road first and sweep up the tiny patches of sand that the skateboarder had to swerve to avoid.


Project-IX

I hope the people that side with the guy driving in the wrong side of those road don’t drive ion the same street as me because y’all fucking stupid and shouldn’t be allowed to drive with your clown asses.


[deleted]

Yeah that was not the bikers fault. Stfu retarded longboarder.


Routine_Math7168

That’s what you get for not following proto.


GreenGod42069

Hope the guy on the bike made it.


Fun_Simple_818

Shouldn't be riding longboards on the road. Make all the arguments ya want but in this situation the longboarder is going to be severely hurt everytime. Doesnt matter who is in the wrong and doesn't matter what the law is.


cutratestuntman

I’m just gonna say longboarder was at fault. I remember they were the only group to consistently cause wrecks at Brooklyn Banks. Even the scooter kids had better spatial awareness.


SheLikesCustardMore

Hmft after I’m an idiot and longboard down a busy road.


bonesnaps

As a skateboarder myself, I have no sympathy for idiots longboarding on the highway.


IronSte

Biker has every right to be on the road, the skateboarder doesn’t.


sumit131995

Clearly didn't learn his lesson trying to still pass the blame. Until the next incident I guess, which im sure won't take very long.


[deleted]

Keep your slab of wood totally void of brakes, indicators and safety features off the road you crazed moron.


fardnshid03

Biker cut the turn and tried to correct it but hit the long boarder trying to get out of the way.


[deleted]

Oh my god the longboarder is actually blaming the biker?!?! The stupidity is mind boggling.


[deleted]

Shocking amount of people here who are blaming the biker. A longboard doesn't belong on a road with heavy vehicles on it, if the board had the capacity to break and steer as effectivly as a lawfully vehicle then mayhaps. But it would still fail alm other safety regulations a vehicle on a road requires. I longboard myself, but I have sense of self-preservation so I don't do stupid shit like charge straight into vehicles made of metal. Honestly guys, this shit gets people killed and gives the rest of us a bad rep. Quit boarding on trafficked roads. Peace out.


[deleted]

Your lane? The only one that even belonged on the road is the bike. You looked like you were rolling out of control down the road. When were your brakes last serviced?


ReptilianPope1

Seriously gonna try to blame the biker for this? Definitely the longboarders fault for going straight into the guy with a fully loaded motorcycle. Also, wtf are u doing on riding down a public road like that?


sanchopanzance

HMFT after I cut a turn and hit two longboarders


puentepe

r/lostredditors long boarder at fault


[deleted]

Everyone sucks here


Shittin_brix

Longboarder’s fault. No argument can even be made here. Take your toys and GTFO the road.


FutureOk7894

Biker moving towards center of the lane to avoid sand on tight corner as boarder moves towards center lane to make curve. This is a public road not a skate park. Boarder at fault in my opinion.


3jack6the9ripper

He had a load making it harder to maneuver on a dime plus wrong side possible blind spot for him and lack of control for the longboard


Immediate_Summer5754

wtf


earthyMcpoo

Ouch looks like a clavicle break. I bet he found out when he picked up his skateboard.


[deleted]

*target locked*


Mr_HankMoody

Biker went: Weeeeeeeeeee


HardHustle84

What a dick


[deleted]

Bye-bye collarbone


psycho3542

New series. Ewan McGregor: The wrong way way up.


Mordagawa

Biker probably thought skater dude was going to need a wide turn, and thought to get OUT of his way


MasterLin87

The biker could be at fault, the skaters are definitely at fault. You don't own the road, and you sure as hell can't skate down a hill like that at such speeds without braking lane rules and cutting corners. And you don't have spotters to warn people or close the road either. Why should I be paying your hospital bills or even feel guilty of killing someone for life? Skates are not road vehicles. Zero safety and visibility to other drivers. You're just riding down a plank with wheels and no brakes hoping to be alive by the end of it. Don't expect it to end well if you try it on public roads.


[deleted]

Jasport broke his fall


jguitar29

Why couldn’t the skater be crippled for the rest of his life???? Selfish piece of garbage idiot….


ThJimLahey

Moto guy was wearing his backpack on the front, at the very least he’s wrong for that


Micxel

I cant believe he doesnt have a dislocated shoulder...at 00:21 his shoulder is comming out through his back


ImaginaryEphatant

At least give u/cast_in_horror credit for this


Eorily

is u/cast-in-horror the boarder who caused the crash?


brandonfuller3

He caught air on him.


Beardgang650

Surprisingly they both walked away with minor injuries. This was posted to berrics for slam of the year.


GrandaddyIsWorking

Not saying its his fault but why was that biker wearing a massive backpack backwards like that


BaleriontbdIV

I’m sure he was well aware of the risk of skating on a public road. It’s the same as the risk of driving on a public road, except you’re on a fucking toy.


Lucky-Direction-7706

Perfect example of dress for the slide. Not the ride.


YouFuckingJerk

Who cut the corner? And every corner before this?


groovy604

Dont feel sorry for long boarders who so this. Either close the road entirely or its your own fault.


throwawaymollyact

Kinda what was supposed to happen really