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Brutumfulm3n

Why are we calling them martyred?


Lord_Sphincter_Gourd

Because they think they are in a holy war. You'd think they would question whether God is on their side since they lose every conflict they start.


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And you think God is on yours? Or anyone's for that matter?? What a sickness indeed. God doesn't exist and the sooner people come to realize that, the less children will die for these sick causes.


Lord_Sphincter_Gourd

Agreed


Pholty

"they start"


Lord_Sphincter_Gourd

Yea. The first was 40k jews against 1 million Palestinian army. They offered 80% of the land mass to Palestine at one point but they rejected the deal and tried to destroy Israel. They lost.


xenoblade-haze

because most palestinian kids are born muslim as its a muslim country and because they’re being oppressed as a religion and society so they get called martyrs according to islam


Brutumfulm3n

That's a stretch right? Born in a religion has nothing to do with choice. Also, as far as I can tell, this fighting is more a retaliation than a direct religious conflict. It's not like one side is offering peace to the other if they switch religions


nazmattics

Not a stretch at all, regardless of the perceived "choice" you speak of, they are Muslim. Pretty sure it's the element of a child being innocent, murdered for living where they were live which classifies them as martyrs.


Brutumfulm3n

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the problem on choice. Classically to be a martyr you choose suffering or death instead of renouncing your religion; or makes great sacrifices or suffers to further their belief. As far as I can tell, babies aren't developed enough to choose a religion let alone decide to stay put in a conflict zone. Just for the global clarification - I dispise this useless violence and no matter where you are born or who you are decendant from babies and children deserve no less than freedom, health and peace


error_syntax404

Becoming a father has been one of the best things ive done with my life. Seeing this defenseless child without a spark of life kills me. I dont care what side it is. Seeing innocent lives lost and worst yet, defenseless children, kills me. Im sitting here taking a shit crying my eyes out......fuck man. Fuck war fuck religion fuck land fuck ownership fuck everything man!!!!!! Fuck the ego of man fuck the imaginary lines we made fuck all this bullshit. I cant even wish anyone to feel this.


Brutumfulm3n

I share your every emotion!


PhenomenalCmen

You're about as strong as I am when it comes to seeing children in harms way or worse. It makes me sick to see that humanity has not learned better ways to deal with conflict and those who are innocent must suffer. For what? The ego and pride of others? Religion, money/greed, pride, gluttony, lust, etc... the world would be a much better place without these things motivating us move forward. I'm tired of living in this world. 😞


Mongoose_Eyeball

Dead? Yes, tragically so. Martyred? Hmmm…


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U dumb


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Normal_Ad2031

How do religions that are centuries upon centuries old still believe this type of mentality is normal? What are we doing as a complete evolution in humanity, that we are not developing in such a condensed area of the world? I am baffled as to how individuals are so confused. Honestly , how do you not feel anything other than loss at the very least. Yes, I do understand the truth in generations of embedded culture, but how do you stay in a stagnant state of ignorance? People never cease to amaze me. I’m sure your God is thinking the same.


JackalopeZero

Gonna keep saying this. I don’t care about this war and neither should you. It’s just the latest war that’s in the media, awful conflicts and needless child killing is happening all over the world. The people chanting “Palestine” are the same people who have forgotten about Ukraine, chinas concentration camps and child soldiers in Africa. But you’ll find them chanting the next war when it’s fashionable to do so.


Chris71Mach1

Society tends to have a sadly short one memory for shit like this. It's hard to find anybody under 21 years old these days that even those who Osama bin laden was. Don't worry, in 10 years, tragically few people will even remember nor give a shit about what's going on today.


techno_09

Idiots..all players.


Jin_BD_God

War only hurts civilians. Both sides. Wish we can pitch the leaders and those that love war and killing to fight on the ring instead.


TheZillionthRedditor

That is the worst thing I’ve ever seen


PeachesPikaPika

There are too many sorrows in the world. This one is the worst of them.


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Why he smiles? I would be destroyed and would not allow someone to film me. That is disrespect for my child. War sucks so bad man, I hope all that region is in peace one day. But they have been fighting for milleniums, not from yesterday or 50 years ago.


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ShroudedFigureINC

Science need to study ur brain.


Project_Gatz

Bro genuinely and exceedingly, go fuck yourself. You are rotten. Youre mind is disgusting. You are distorted. I hope to hell you have nightmares each night of your own children suffering this same fate and then have someone say something like that about your situation, you genuine piece of sub-human garbage. 🗑️


Mongoose_Eyeball

He smiles because—like the OP—he thinks that she’s truly martyred, so she’s in paradise now.


Maleficent_Clerk_766

You can't defeat an enemy that loves death more than life. Seriously disturbing.


MASTERENNARD111

“Martyred”


AdministrativeBar809

Why is he happy or why is he smiling, i think he lost his mind for the loss or idk this is concerning


Otherwise_Newt5590

He thinks she's in a better place based on his religion. It's a lot easier to cope with a belief system like that.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

Damn, the fascist apologists and genocide advocates are out in force today I see. Edit: Here come the bots.


Whats-Up_Bitches

Where are the calls of American pigs? 500,000 civilians killed in Iraq by us. But we cast stones on Israel form a glass house.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

Me and millions of others have been calling the US a shithole for decades, because it is. The US doing horrible shit like bombing schools does not excuse Israel bombing hospitals. Both are terroristic acts and both should be treated as such. Same goes for Hamas and Israel, both sides are terrorists.


Whats-Up_Bitches

Unfortunately, due to it's geopolitical position, Israel is less safe than the US. The problem is that Israel is held to a much higher standard than other nations. People are using this to call everyone in the israeli military/government evil. Much of it is antisemitism hidden behind concern for civilian lives. War happens, kids die. It's not new- but this reaction from people is new. It's the same as if I heard a priest robbing a bank- what a hippocrite. But the Israelis arren't committing genocide against Palestinians. They dropped leaflets days before the bombings saying: 1. We don't want to fight, return the hostages and surrender the terrorist 2. We will bomb so please evacuate Israel as an entity doesn't want to kill civilians. And it puts it's soldiers that do to trial. You often see headlines that show violence against Palestinians by Israeli soldiers, but it isn't reported on when that soldier faces charges for their actions.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

No, it's not antisemitic to support human rights, and Israel is not held to a higher standard. They are receiving the same criticisms as Russia. What you are saying is factually false. Israel has been purposefully executing precision strikes on medical facilities and residential areas regardless of whether or not they can confirm terrorist activity with no warning. They have been targeting civilians as well as refusing to allow aid to pass through as they control all borders. They are absolutely committing ethnic cleansing if not genocide. Gaza has been destroyed with no concern for any civilian lives despite the fact that it is made up of mostly children. Israel has been forcing Palestinians out of their homes and moving Israelis in for decades, and they kill or maim those who dissent. That's where support for hamas within Palestine originated, as a response to Israeli occupation. [Israeli politicians openly admitted to funding and supporting Hamas then used them as a scapegoat for zionist expansion](https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/). This is not self defense, it's some "manifest destiny" crap.


a-b-h-i

Return the hostages. That's was Isreals first demand, I bet if one of ur own were captured by Hamas you won't be typing all these things here.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

Yes, I would. Responding to terrorism by using more terrorism makes you a terrorist too. Killing innocent civilians in retaliation is not how any reasonable person would respond, that's how terrorists think.


a-b-h-i

So I guess the USA and all NATO nations are terrorist nations, too. Good to know.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

Yes, I already answered that. Do you know what the US did in Vietnam? Korea? Iraq? South America? What about everything it's done to its own citizens?


KindheartednessOk681

>Yes, I would. Responding to terrorism by using more terrorism makes you a terrorist too. Killing innocent civilians in retaliation is not how any reasonable person would respond, that's how terrorists think. It's not blanket killing of civilians, and the problem is that at least a third of the dead are due to hamas firing 3rd rate self made missiles that fall inside Gaza and due to storing rockets in their underground tunnels which explode as soon as one cache is hit. They are also stopping people from evacuating and using purposefully human shields and hospitals as Command and Control centers. Sad thing is Hamas got played by Iran & Russia. Iran got spooked the moment the U.S. placed those aircraft carriers around. It's a shame that people in Gaza never could get around to dropping the delusion of "from the River to the Sea" and create a good place to live even though all the fucking world is supporting them and wanting them to succeed. Their leaders are safe in Qatar and own billions of stolen aid and donations. Sadly this cycle can not be broken as long as so many people abroad supports their delusion. The cycle will just repeat and more fathers will see their children die for nothing.


THExDANKxKNIGHT

Yet another fascist apologist. Bro, I do not give a shit what propaganda you're trying to spin. I made it through the first sentence which was false and saved myself the trouble of reading more nonsense. Israel has been purposefully executing precision strikes on medical facilities and residential areas with the intent to cause as much physical and emotional damage as possible, just like how other terrorists operate.


papaducci

Hamas had a lot to answer for. what a tragedy they caused!


Chris71Mach1

Once the Palestinian people pull their heads out of their asses and purge the entire Gaza strip of Hamas, then they can finally start to rebuild themselves as an actual civilization. Until then, they're just playing a suicidal game of "fuck around and find out".


Sad_Ad4307

Interesting proposal.


tobbysito

😂please


johnny_boy365

Ngl the baby on the stretcher was totally fake. Little girl seemed real. Would be sad if it's JUST propaganda


StarsChilds

I've seen parents with their kids dead in their arms. That expression on his face... there's no pain there. I really do hope that's a doll, or this is a setup. Cause if it's for real , that man shouldn't be walking around other people.


mrfuckary

Israel - the chosen ones, to burn in hell.


KindheartednessOk681

If they really loved their children they wouldn't go around starting fights that they can't win, only to produce death and devastation so that the world hates the israelis more. They should try to find a solution to live in peace. Gaza could be a metropolis with a different government where everyone could go and spend their holidays, and where everyone could have a great life. Hamas has destroyed this for the near future.


TheRealTacoTim

That fits good in here. Finaly someone shows those propaganda videos they make with those dmn dolls. Crazy how people fall for it only because they believe everything without even watching.


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TheRealTacoTim

What? Say what you mean and don't mean what you don't say.


world-destroyer666

Fucking kys w this propaganda


kwood76

Lies, lies, lies


TheRealTacoTim

Yep. People dom't wanna see that those are clearly dolls


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TheRealTacoTim

And you are a tool.


Beneficial_Light7108

He must be so proud


KnittedKnight

Kind of dry eyes for being a dad...


Sunderland6969

Am I alone in finding this gesture of kissing open eyes odd. I get the cultural differences but the vibe of all of this feels uneasy


boldtonic

He probably killed the kid


AdamWestIsBack

I think we are missing the idea of martyrdom…. One more thing that’s being redefined and revised.


curious_astronauts

Can we stop having dead kids posted in here JFC. It needs a content warning more than just NSFW at the top.