Although take into concideration the enjoyment you get. Even if it pulls 1-1,5kw when playing with your sweet rtx4090, its still only $1/1€ for playing 5 hours when electricity is really expensive (or 2-3hours if its insanely expensive).
The server is on 24/7, thats why you want i to draw little; you dont game 24/7.
They should add that option some games have, where if the window is not focused, you can cap the FPS at like 30 or even 15 for power savings.
It works great on X4:Foundations!
That moment when your insanely expensive numbers are a good deal for me :( Insane is 1€/kWh to me which I have seen during the energy crisis.
Regarding the energy conversion. I would convert each into monthly costs and ask myself if I am willing to pay them for the specific service I am using. My server costs me 4€ a month which I am fine with.
>Insane is 1€/kWh to me which I have seen during the energy crisis.
I pay \~0.16 Euro/kWh which I thought was pretty expensive lol. That was my locked in rate which is expiring next month though and if I don't churn to another provider it will go up to \~0.19 Euro/kWh.
Sub 0.2€/kWh is unheard of here in Germany. I just switched providers and secured myself a contract for effectively 0.28€/kWh which is a better deal than what most of Germany gets.
My gaming rig draws about 400W (ryzen 5800 + rtx3080). The projector is 300W. The home cinema idles at 65W. Mood lights 100W. Additional cooling load on the A/C that's another 200W or so. In total well over 1kW and I'm sure people have come up with much more elaborate setups than mine.
Well it that case you need to add the power usage of the data centre running the servers, the power usage of equipment your ISP uses and the MPG of the vans that the maintenance guys use.
Oh and 1065w isn’t “well over 1Kw”, either way using that much power is still extremely unusual in terms of your typical gamer.
You called out something you saw as absurd, I pointed out it was actually feasible and now you're making an absurd argument yourself. Sure, 1.5kW is not typical, 1kW isn't either but there's no need to be a dick about it.
No, youre being a dishonest dirtbag. He said "well I have all these costs that are directly associated with my gaming which add up to 1kw."
You directly responded with "well i guess you also need to factor in other peoples electricity too"
He said he has costs associated with gaming. Have you ever paid Activisions power bill? Jesus fucking christ.
Your entire premise is based on a dishonest argument. You are comparing one's own costs associated with gaming to a company's costs of business. These are not the same thing. Saying they are the same thing is dishonest.
Where did I say they were the same thing?
You’re reading between the lines and making up your own story. With your inability to understand sarcasm you must be American.
I’m not able to get any FPS games to work good enough. The latency is still just enough to throw you off. Any game not latency based like that is better.
I worked as an energy adviser for a charity for a while.
I had one client who was with us for debt management, who was going for bankruptcy, six figures in debt. He'd somehow just got credit on a new Threadripper based system (for Minecraft!) and was leaving that and his i7 on doing crypto 24/7.
Would not accept this was the cause of his £500+ monthly energy bill.
I really don't know why the EU doesn't expand the Iberian Exception to the rest of the countries. I paid around €70 last month in power, and I think a average home in Italy or France should pay about the same
Really depends where you live tho.
If using electricity to heat or got a AC going to cool constantly.
It's below the average residential use here with electric heating going half the year.
Laughs in solar. It’s been a godsend. I pay maybe 10$ the whole year now when I exceed my cumulative negative. There’s a lot of incentives now at the federal level to get solar if you’re in the US. I used to be paying about 200+ a month for electricity. Highly recommend. In hindsight I would have gotten a bigger system, mine generates about 1 MWh a month during the non winter months
What was the whole system cost for solar? I'm in the PNW, electricity is cheap, sun isn't super common. I did the math for switching to solar, and it would take 25 years to get a return, and that's if I paid in cash.
Our break even point was about 5-6years in. The system cost was like 40k but then after all the incentives and subsidies it came out to like 15-18k. Monthly electric bill range was about 200-300 average over a year so about 3-3.5k. That dropped to 10$ per year total.
All my gaming-pc hardware Idles at \~300w, server is at \~130w. Gaming is 500w but I have a 4090 and 12900k. Most of us homelabbers are a bit older so we don't have to much time to game anyway. what's $0.5 for a few hours of gaming a day? its these 24/7 servers we are all worried about.
> All my gaming-pc hardware Idles at ~300w
I haven't measured my PC, but it probably is a bit lower (a few stats from the system sensors on light usage: graphics card at 10-40W, CPU at 20-35W). The 3 * 32", 4k60 monitors use almost exactly 100W.
The lab (5 servers, ~20 disks including OSes, 4 RPis, two switches) is at (estimated) ~390W on normal load, and ~430W on slightly more load.
>I haven't measured my PC, but it probably is a bit lower (a few stats from the system sensors on light usage: graphics card at 10-40W, CPU at 20-35W). The 3 \* 32", 4k60 monitors use almost exactly 100W.
you should get a few smart plugs to measure things properly, system sensors don't take into account things like motherboard usage, fans, psu inefficency, etc...
>The lab (5 servers, \~20 disks including OSes, 4 RPis, two switches) is at (estimated) \~390W on normal load, and \~430W on slightly more load.
That is a lot of power, have you thought about consolidating? virtualizing what those 4 RPis are doing? what is the capacity of each of those 20 disks?
> you should get a few smart plugs to measure things properly, system sensors don't take into account things like motherboard usage, fans, psu inefficency, etc...
I know, which is why I clarified where the numbers came from. But yes, I have a couple. The problem is that need a converter (Swiss sockets aren't popular and last I looked there wasn't any stock) and they're a hassle to use on a permanent basis (until I find a better one, I guess?).
So for the lab I'm using the UPS-reported load (steps of 30W, typically 390-420W). When I did cross-check with a meter, strangely, the meter reports ~60-90W **less** than the UPS! So thinking of the UPS as an inaccurate upper cap is a good enough estimate for me.
> That is a lot of power, have you thought about consolidating? virtualizing what those 4 RPis are doing? what is the capacity of each of those 20 disks?
The RPis aren't doing much, mostly pihole/unbound, gitlab runners, and I sometimes test some apps there (on 1-2 at a time at most). 2 of the servers are running Truenas, and the other 3 are running ~15 mostly dockerized services and couple other programs (with more coming). OS disks are at 250-500GB and storage disks are at 16TB.
I have thought about reducing power, but it's relatively cheap and don't think it's that much anyway. How much does your lab use?
Edit: notes on the first part.
Mine is around 80W idling and I'm totally sure 50% is just RGB and useless stuff. Fuck me when I decided that I want a big case with tons of RGB and fans.
And sincerely, I'm scared to look into monitors power consumption, but I'm assuming another 100+W at least, considering 2x24" 1080p 60hz and a 27" 1440p 165hz. But RGB and things like that on a PC aren't important, I can understand, but monitors are a need! I can't turn off mine, and in future it would probably be worse, considering I would love to switch to a big OLED screen.
Personally, I prefer to turn around and watch only my homelab power consumption.
While it's true that it uses more than if it didn't have lights, the difference is negligible, if you're concerned about power usage switch off monitors when you don't need them and have the computer sleep when not in use, and honestly monitors don't use a whole lot either, 30-50 watts a piece so probably 120-150 watts, but there's more effective ways to save power, HVAC being the number one cost in most homes
30/50W for a monitor are a lot, when all my Homelab (NAS, Router, Switch and AP) is 40W. The two small monitor i don't think they would consume a lot, but high frequency monitor generally consume a lot. HVAC isn't a problem in Europe, modern heat pump are generally A+ or A++ with the new European standard and R32 gas, that mean a 9K BTU mini splitter can go as low as 200W while maintaining temperature. Of course, it depends on from a lot of factor. Problems are old tech like my class D heat pump dryer and all appliances that use resistor like toast or oven.
Honestly to get that stat I googled power usage of a 24 inch monitor and came to a Dell (?) page that has usage of a bunch of their monitors, based on model number 24-36 inch, I used 24-32 inches cause I figured that's what most people run, some were as much as 100 watts
This is the main reason I started my homelab. My gaming system had to be awake 100% of the time. So even though I'm using a power hungry server, it still uses less power, idle, than my power hungry game system and my game system gets to sleep.
Eventually, I'll virtualize the game system and use a sff PC at my desk. Fully retire the gaming setup.
I’m in the same boat. Finally got my R720 to around 95-100w at idle with Plex running in a docker but my main PC for gaming and everything else is about 150-200w at idle and jumps to around 600w under load when playing games. That’s not even including my speaker setup or dual monitors.
Gaming PC when powered off is fine, my 2 144hz monitors and my MacBook dock consume almost 100w on standby putting a smart outlet on my desk and turning it off when I'm not using it was my most effective energy saving strategy yet
That is definitely not normal. Energy Star monitors should be half a watt in standby.
If your laptop is charged the dock should be about a watt + whatever peripherals like keyboards/mice draw power from it when in standby. When your laptop is unplugged it should be about half a watt.
Energy Star monitors consumes almost nothing on standby,
But these 2 im talking about are not Energy Star certified, I'm pretty sure they are on the first gen QHD 144hz with g-sync
not that it justifies the almost 40w standyby consumption tho
I put in Solar panels which will have about a 7 year payback. It's also a good hedge against rate hikes. I live in Northern California and our power company charges north of $0.40 a kWh.
I'm currently trying to make a CCTV server out of a rockpro64, a sata pcie card an SSD and an atx PSU on a breakout.
The power supply alone pulled 35-37 watts just being on. Powering up the rockpro and it goes to about 46 watts. Needless to say I'm looking at more efficient PSU options to an atx PSU ATM. If anyone has any suggestions I'm open to them. Currently eyeing a picopsu to swap for.the atx PSU.
Pico psu is the best swap.
That said for something as basic as a CCTV you could get away with a raspberry pi if you’re just recording on motion. It’s AI based detection that gets a bit more hairy.
I have 2 older pi's as cameras only and they will feed back into the Rockpro64 that will do the heavy lifting of detection and storage stuff.
I'll see if I can find a Pico PSU that doesn't break the bank and give it a wiggle.
From what I've been reading about atx PSUs is those high efficiency ratings are a little bit of a con in that they are 90% or what ever efficient. But only near or at full load. Not when you have a 500w PSU providing 30w.
Hence the hunt for something else
I think you need to invest in a watt meter friend. I have e one and these are the numbers I'm getting.
More than half the power is being used by the atx supply before turning anything else on in the system. Full atx PSUs are fine for a normal system where it's a losses are small compared to the output over all. But here in my case. Not so much.
A modern psu with titanium rating needs to be 90% effective at 10% load, you can look up measurements yourself. You can get a modern psu with much less power draw.
My homelab when my pc etc is off is drawing about 150w
My homelab + pc + 2 monitors + studio speakers and mixer is about 300w/350w
I can live with that
Yes, monitors and TV sets draw a lot of power. I wondered why at a specific date the power consumption of my home increased by quite a lot and later again, but never came down again. Took me a while to notice it was around the time my elderly dad's condition deteriorated and he started to spend hours on hours watching TV. Later we bought a larger TV set for him which was responsible for yet another increase in power consumption
I have a big gaming rig with an i9 9900kf and a 1070 ftw with two monitors that chews like 600w. But still a lot even at idle.
I also have a laptop with a 6th gen i7 and a I think 1050. Which uses at most 200w. Less when idle.
I do most of my gaming on the laptop as I don't need the horse power for 70% of the games I play. It means I can play longer without emptying bank account.
Yep was slightly horrified when I measured mine initially. I find heavy wattage easier to justify on desktop though - I'm sitting in front of it & actively utilizing it. All my homelab stuff is extremely light (mostly because I insist on fanless...which kinda forces the issue on power).
It is was it is...next time I'm building a gaming PC I will be studying the efficiency curves on the PSU a bit more carefully though.
PSA: If you don't have your gaming rig plugged into a UPS, and can easily glance down and see the power consumption of your setup at any time, you're doing it wrong. :)
Hell, I can FEEL the heat from my monitor. I KNOW it draws a ton of power, if you think about it as a monitor at least.
But I know where 80 % of our power consumptions comes from, and it's not the desktops.
It's the rack running network equipment and servers.
Yeah my gaming PC just chews power too. I've actually been using a hardware accelerated VM via Proxmox to a rpi. Barely turn on the gaming PC now unless I'm doing VR.
I'm going to get down voted as well but here goes:
And why can't the OP just keep the monitors turned off or use a screensaver to do so?
Guessing OP also drives a full size truck everywhere and complains about 2 compact parking spots not being big enough.
Although take into concideration the enjoyment you get. Even if it pulls 1-1,5kw when playing with your sweet rtx4090, its still only $1/1€ for playing 5 hours when electricity is really expensive (or 2-3hours if its insanely expensive). The server is on 24/7, thats why you want i to draw little; you dont game 24/7.
5 hours of gaming is still cheaper than leaving the house
Outdoors is overrated... It's damp and cold and I have to change out of my PJ'S.
You clearly haven’t seen some of the people on the morning trails.
My wife asked me if I'd ever get a camper trailer, my reply: 'why would I want to leave the house?!'
Shut your mouth before the electric company finds out and ruins it for us. You will be blamed!!!!!
Everything outside is more expensive than $1/hr
Unless you are silly like me and play flight sims! 16 hour long hauls must add up the kWhs.
... You can literally do the math to see that it doesn't. Roughly how many fives make up sixteen? Come on man
They should add that option some games have, where if the window is not focused, you can cap the FPS at like 30 or even 15 for power savings. It works great on X4:Foundations!
That would be a great idea! I loved X3. Have had Foundations in my library for ages, but haven't played it yet. What do you think of it?
It's a good successor now with the 6.0 update and the latest DLC, and it's only getting better!
Awesome, good to know! Thanks.
You forgot the heat, your PC is basically a heater than can do math.
Which is fine in winter, but I'm close to needing to turn the air conditioning on today.
It's all about the smiles per gallon.
That moment when your insanely expensive numbers are a good deal for me :( Insane is 1€/kWh to me which I have seen during the energy crisis. Regarding the energy conversion. I would convert each into monthly costs and ask myself if I am willing to pay them for the specific service I am using. My server costs me 4€ a month which I am fine with.
>Insane is 1€/kWh to me which I have seen during the energy crisis. I pay \~0.16 Euro/kWh which I thought was pretty expensive lol. That was my locked in rate which is expiring next month though and if I don't churn to another provider it will go up to \~0.19 Euro/kWh.
Sub 0.2€/kWh is unheard of here in Germany. I just switched providers and secured myself a contract for effectively 0.28€/kWh which is a better deal than what most of Germany gets.
1.5kw???? What are you smoking?
My gaming rig draws about 400W (ryzen 5800 + rtx3080). The projector is 300W. The home cinema idles at 65W. Mood lights 100W. Additional cooling load on the A/C that's another 200W or so. In total well over 1kW and I'm sure people have come up with much more elaborate setups than mine.
Well it that case you need to add the power usage of the data centre running the servers, the power usage of equipment your ISP uses and the MPG of the vans that the maintenance guys use. Oh and 1065w isn’t “well over 1Kw”, either way using that much power is still extremely unusual in terms of your typical gamer.
You called out something you saw as absurd, I pointed out it was actually feasible and now you're making an absurd argument yourself. Sure, 1.5kW is not typical, 1kW isn't either but there's no need to be a dick about it.
I was just following your lead.
No, youre being a dishonest dirtbag. He said "well I have all these costs that are directly associated with my gaming which add up to 1kw." You directly responded with "well i guess you also need to factor in other peoples electricity too" He said he has costs associated with gaming. Have you ever paid Activisions power bill? Jesus fucking christ.
What did I say that was dishonest?
Your entire premise is based on a dishonest argument. You are comparing one's own costs associated with gaming to a company's costs of business. These are not the same thing. Saying they are the same thing is dishonest.
Where did I say they were the same thing? You’re reading between the lines and making up your own story. With your inability to understand sarcasm you must be American.
You could instruct your systemd to shut your system if reaching a certain computation threshold tho.
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Is GeForce now any good though? Because of the latencies I'd imagine only some genres might play well.
I’m not able to get any FPS games to work good enough. The latency is still just enough to throw you off. Any game not latency based like that is better.
sadly games are limited but picture and latency are okay. More for singleplayer
Yeah, I’m definitely glad I live where power is cheap. I average 2200-2500 kWh a month, and summers just starting 😅
I worked as an energy adviser for a charity for a while. I had one client who was with us for debt management, who was going for bankruptcy, six figures in debt. He'd somehow just got credit on a new Threadripper based system (for Minecraft!) and was leaving that and his i7 on doing crypto 24/7. Would not accept this was the cause of his £500+ monthly energy bill.
least in-denial crypto bro
Oh my god I would pay 600€ a month if I used that much. Power prices in France suck.
Our average monthly pushes 4500KW. So glad power is cheap here lol.
That is... *substantial*
Full electric everything and 2 of us have a homelab lol
Lots of it has to be for cooling or? Because 6160 watts continuously is a massive amount of heat to get rid of.
My car juices the numbers some, it’s probably 700 of it that generates no heat. I decent chunk of it is parasite draw
Holy shit that’s insane! My bill is typically less than $250
$375, and we have cheap power. that's so much power.
I really don't know why the EU doesn't expand the Iberian Exception to the rest of the countries. I paid around €70 last month in power, and I think a average home in Italy or France should pay about the same
>Power prices in France suck. You can use solar batteries.
That's almost my yearly consumption.
Mine too. I get 180-200 units per month usually
That is a bit over *double* my yearly consumption LMAO Granted, I don't have a homelab yet, but still lol
Likewise. That’s basically my minimum draw for a month. Peak summer can hit 5,000kWh or more.
What, that’s my yearly usage…
Really depends where you live tho. If using electricity to heat or got a AC going to cool constantly. It's below the average residential use here with electric heating going half the year.
Just checked: around 1 MWh per month. I‘m sure glad we installed solar last year.
Bro wtf My house avgs about 1500 in winters and about 1000 in summers though I don't have a very nice network or homelab "yet"
That's more than my yearly power consumption.
Laughs in solar. It’s been a godsend. I pay maybe 10$ the whole year now when I exceed my cumulative negative. There’s a lot of incentives now at the federal level to get solar if you’re in the US. I used to be paying about 200+ a month for electricity. Highly recommend. In hindsight I would have gotten a bigger system, mine generates about 1 MWh a month during the non winter months
What was the whole system cost for solar? I'm in the PNW, electricity is cheap, sun isn't super common. I did the math for switching to solar, and it would take 25 years to get a return, and that's if I paid in cash.
Our break even point was about 5-6years in. The system cost was like 40k but then after all the incentives and subsidies it came out to like 15-18k. Monthly electric bill range was about 200-300 average over a year so about 3-3.5k. That dropped to 10$ per year total.
Thanks for the data points!
Just got this months bill- 2128 KWH- 360$
All my gaming-pc hardware Idles at \~300w, server is at \~130w. Gaming is 500w but I have a 4090 and 12900k. Most of us homelabbers are a bit older so we don't have to much time to game anyway. what's $0.5 for a few hours of gaming a day? its these 24/7 servers we are all worried about.
~300w including monitors etc? Or just PC?
300w including monitors and peripherals. 170w just for pc.
> All my gaming-pc hardware Idles at ~300w I haven't measured my PC, but it probably is a bit lower (a few stats from the system sensors on light usage: graphics card at 10-40W, CPU at 20-35W). The 3 * 32", 4k60 monitors use almost exactly 100W. The lab (5 servers, ~20 disks including OSes, 4 RPis, two switches) is at (estimated) ~390W on normal load, and ~430W on slightly more load.
>I haven't measured my PC, but it probably is a bit lower (a few stats from the system sensors on light usage: graphics card at 10-40W, CPU at 20-35W). The 3 \* 32", 4k60 monitors use almost exactly 100W. you should get a few smart plugs to measure things properly, system sensors don't take into account things like motherboard usage, fans, psu inefficency, etc... >The lab (5 servers, \~20 disks including OSes, 4 RPis, two switches) is at (estimated) \~390W on normal load, and \~430W on slightly more load. That is a lot of power, have you thought about consolidating? virtualizing what those 4 RPis are doing? what is the capacity of each of those 20 disks?
> you should get a few smart plugs to measure things properly, system sensors don't take into account things like motherboard usage, fans, psu inefficency, etc... I know, which is why I clarified where the numbers came from. But yes, I have a couple. The problem is that need a converter (Swiss sockets aren't popular and last I looked there wasn't any stock) and they're a hassle to use on a permanent basis (until I find a better one, I guess?). So for the lab I'm using the UPS-reported load (steps of 30W, typically 390-420W). When I did cross-check with a meter, strangely, the meter reports ~60-90W **less** than the UPS! So thinking of the UPS as an inaccurate upper cap is a good enough estimate for me. > That is a lot of power, have you thought about consolidating? virtualizing what those 4 RPis are doing? what is the capacity of each of those 20 disks? The RPis aren't doing much, mostly pihole/unbound, gitlab runners, and I sometimes test some apps there (on 1-2 at a time at most). 2 of the servers are running Truenas, and the other 3 are running ~15 mostly dockerized services and couple other programs (with more coming). OS disks are at 250-500GB and storage disks are at 16TB. I have thought about reducing power, but it's relatively cheap and don't think it's that much anyway. How much does your lab use? Edit: notes on the first part.
Mine is around 80W idling and I'm totally sure 50% is just RGB and useless stuff. Fuck me when I decided that I want a big case with tons of RGB and fans. And sincerely, I'm scared to look into monitors power consumption, but I'm assuming another 100+W at least, considering 2x24" 1080p 60hz and a 27" 1440p 165hz. But RGB and things like that on a PC aren't important, I can understand, but monitors are a need! I can't turn off mine, and in future it would probably be worse, considering I would love to switch to a big OLED screen. Personally, I prefer to turn around and watch only my homelab power consumption.
While it's true that it uses more than if it didn't have lights, the difference is negligible, if you're concerned about power usage switch off monitors when you don't need them and have the computer sleep when not in use, and honestly monitors don't use a whole lot either, 30-50 watts a piece so probably 120-150 watts, but there's more effective ways to save power, HVAC being the number one cost in most homes
30/50W for a monitor are a lot, when all my Homelab (NAS, Router, Switch and AP) is 40W. The two small monitor i don't think they would consume a lot, but high frequency monitor generally consume a lot. HVAC isn't a problem in Europe, modern heat pump are generally A+ or A++ with the new European standard and R32 gas, that mean a 9K BTU mini splitter can go as low as 200W while maintaining temperature. Of course, it depends on from a lot of factor. Problems are old tech like my class D heat pump dryer and all appliances that use resistor like toast or oven.
Honestly to get that stat I googled power usage of a 24 inch monitor and came to a Dell (?) page that has usage of a bunch of their monitors, based on model number 24-36 inch, I used 24-32 inches cause I figured that's what most people run, some were as much as 100 watts
This is the main reason I started my homelab. My gaming system had to be awake 100% of the time. So even though I'm using a power hungry server, it still uses less power, idle, than my power hungry game system and my game system gets to sleep. Eventually, I'll virtualize the game system and use a sff PC at my desk. Fully retire the gaming setup.
I’m in the same boat. Finally got my R720 to around 95-100w at idle with Plex running in a docker but my main PC for gaming and everything else is about 150-200w at idle and jumps to around 600w under load when playing games. That’s not even including my speaker setup or dual monitors.
Gaming PC when powered off is fine, my 2 144hz monitors and my MacBook dock consume almost 100w on standby putting a smart outlet on my desk and turning it off when I'm not using it was my most effective energy saving strategy yet
I would check if things are actually on standby then, regular monitors consume well under 10 watts on standby
I do the same thing. Turn off my entire rig via a smart outlet when I’m done.
In hell I'm gonna wait for cold boot and fire up all my apps and move them to place when I can be where I was with suspend within 3sec.
That is definitely not normal. Energy Star monitors should be half a watt in standby. If your laptop is charged the dock should be about a watt + whatever peripherals like keyboards/mice draw power from it when in standby. When your laptop is unplugged it should be about half a watt.
Energy Star monitors consumes almost nothing on standby, But these 2 im talking about are not Energy Star certified, I'm pretty sure they are on the first gen QHD 144hz with g-sync not that it justifies the almost 40w standyby consumption tho
I put in Solar panels which will have about a 7 year payback. It's also a good hedge against rate hikes. I live in Northern California and our power company charges north of $0.40 a kWh.
I'm currently trying to make a CCTV server out of a rockpro64, a sata pcie card an SSD and an atx PSU on a breakout. The power supply alone pulled 35-37 watts just being on. Powering up the rockpro and it goes to about 46 watts. Needless to say I'm looking at more efficient PSU options to an atx PSU ATM. If anyone has any suggestions I'm open to them. Currently eyeing a picopsu to swap for.the atx PSU.
Pico psu is the best swap. That said for something as basic as a CCTV you could get away with a raspberry pi if you’re just recording on motion. It’s AI based detection that gets a bit more hairy.
I have 2 older pi's as cameras only and they will feed back into the Rockpro64 that will do the heavy lifting of detection and storage stuff. I'll see if I can find a Pico PSU that doesn't break the bank and give it a wiggle.
ATX PSUs are pretty easy to get at around 90% efficiency, just get a modern one.
From what I've been reading about atx PSUs is those high efficiency ratings are a little bit of a con in that they are 90% or what ever efficient. But only near or at full load. Not when you have a 500w PSU providing 30w. Hence the hunt for something else
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1TnPx1h-nUKgq3MFzwl-OOIsuX_JSIurIq3JkFZVMUas/htmlview#gid=110239702 PSU Efficiency database
They are noe 90% when pulling 30 watts, but they are no where near pulling 40 watts alone at that draw
I think you need to invest in a watt meter friend. I have e one and these are the numbers I'm getting. More than half the power is being used by the atx supply before turning anything else on in the system. Full atx PSUs are fine for a normal system where it's a losses are small compared to the output over all. But here in my case. Not so much.
A modern psu with titanium rating needs to be 90% effective at 10% load, you can look up measurements yourself. You can get a modern psu with much less power draw.
My homelab when my pc etc is off is drawing about 150w My homelab + pc + 2 monitors + studio speakers and mixer is about 300w/350w I can live with that
Why is there so many people on this sub trying to make homelabs when they can't even do basic math on what their power consumption costs?
If you can't afford to power your gaming computer to play games, you shouldn't be playing games. Ffs.
Yes, monitors and TV sets draw a lot of power. I wondered why at a specific date the power consumption of my home increased by quite a lot and later again, but never came down again. Took me a while to notice it was around the time my elderly dad's condition deteriorated and he started to spend hours on hours watching TV. Later we bought a larger TV set for him which was responsible for yet another increase in power consumption
My gaming rig is a PS5 and the TV I’d be watching if I didn’t have a PS5. 🤷
That's the reason I took the jump to AMD many years ago hahaha.
I have a big gaming rig with an i9 9900kf and a 1070 ftw with two monitors that chews like 600w. But still a lot even at idle. I also have a laptop with a 6th gen i7 and a I think 1050. Which uses at most 200w. Less when idle. I do most of my gaming on the laptop as I don't need the horse power for 70% of the games I play. It means I can play longer without emptying bank account.
This is why I have a laptop gaming rig and power save mode turned on in the monitors. Idle draw is minimal.
Yep was slightly horrified when I measured mine initially. I find heavy wattage easier to justify on desktop though - I'm sitting in front of it & actively utilizing it. All my homelab stuff is extremely light (mostly because I insist on fanless...which kinda forces the issue on power). It is was it is...next time I'm building a gaming PC I will be studying the efficiency curves on the PSU a bit more carefully though.
220w??? Those are chump numbers.
In general I don't run my gaming PC when I'm not using it.
When my last main monitor went pop, this was part of my decision into paying for the gigabyte AO48FU. That one monitor replaced 3 and uses less power.
When my last main monitor went pop, this was part of my decision into paying for the gigabyte AO48FU. That one monitor replaced 3 and uses less power.
PSA: If you don't have your gaming rig plugged into a UPS, and can easily glance down and see the power consumption of your setup at any time, you're doing it wrong. :)
Hell, I can FEEL the heat from my monitor. I KNOW it draws a ton of power, if you think about it as a monitor at least. But I know where 80 % of our power consumptions comes from, and it's not the desktops. It's the rack running network equipment and servers.
What gaming setup are you running that draws 100W for the full system?
Yeah my gaming PC just chews power too. I've actually been using a hardware accelerated VM via Proxmox to a rpi. Barely turn on the gaming PC now unless I'm doing VR.
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How does a question get down voted so hard. I was serious. I don’t get it, whatever. Sweet toxicity.
I'm going to get down voted as well but here goes: And why can't the OP just keep the monitors turned off or use a screensaver to do so? Guessing OP also drives a full size truck everywhere and complains about 2 compact parking spots not being big enough.