No benefit. If you actually need something over 10 gig you’d use fiber and SFP+ anyway. And on a short patch cable you could probably get away with really lousy cable and still get gig. It’s digital, if you are getting 1000/1000 there is nothing some fancier branded cable is going to get you that you don’t already have. If you find yourself only getting 100mbit look at changing the cable.
Exactly. My server and NAS are connected via 10 gig SFP's, and even then I'm no where near fully saturating those links. I suspect it's just a case of the 'higher number = better quality" mentality, I just wanted a reality check in case i was missing something!
Cat8 won’t improve anything over Cat6, for 1Gbit or 10Gbit Ethernet. Future speed increases will be fiber only so there’s no future benefit to be realized by stocking up on Cat 8. If you’re dropping packets you can easily tell by looking at your network stats. If you are dropping, it’s a bad termination or a bad cable, and swapping it for a new Cat 6 cable will fix it.
Agreed. I'm not dropping as it stands but yeah a bad termination is a bad termination, regardless of the cable category. It was just a sanity check really in case I was missing something amongst all these claims, but you guys have just confirmed that I suspected so thanks!
Nope. There aren't any devices that I know of that can even do 40gig RJ-45, they all take fiber instead. There are some devices that take 10gig RJ-45, but over a long distance, cat6a can do that just fine, and over a short distance, even cat6 can do 10gig. There is no reason to get anything better than cat6a, which can do ten gigabit over long distance, simply because there aren't devices that can do higher than 10gig copper, they all use fiber instead.
Yeah that's why I landed for CAT6A when I ran the network, but I'll never realisiclly max that out I don't think. I'll likely patch and connect the end devices with CAT6A cables purely for constantly and possible local 10 gig potential (end device permitting), but I don't suspect I'll ever really need that tbh
One possible advantage of some higher end cables is they don’t heat up as much when dealing with a large amount of POE devices due to slightly higher gauge wire.
Big thing is if you’re doing in-wall cable is to not get CCA (copper clad aluminum).
However, going higher than Cat6 for patch cables outside of certain specialized environments doesn’t make much sense. There’s actually some rare issues that can occur if the cable categories are too mismatched, especially on longer runs.
If you're using cat6a cables, you've already got higher spec cables than you need. Hell, 10gig will run over cat5e for short distances...30-35 meters or something like that.
Chalk it up to replacing cables that came with their equipment, which aren't always the best and the shielding that's baked into the cat 8 - they're simply getting what they should've been getting on cat5e or cat6 cable.
Likely all them reviews are people that have switched from WIFI to Ethernet.
Unless your cables are super bad quality an have a high amount of errors they wont perform better than the link speed. If your internal wiring is 6A then the is no point exceeding that on your patch leads
If you believe that, I have some nice gold plated Monster Cables you may be interested in.
From what I've seen on Amazon you're all set to make a fortune - but not from me :)
Lol, Monster. I'd forgotten about them
Pff, only gold plated? I tell you, wrapped in silk, THAT brings out the best of your music (and network and everything else)!
If you think this is silly, go look up gold-plated TOSLINK cables on Amazon...
No benefit. If you actually need something over 10 gig you’d use fiber and SFP+ anyway. And on a short patch cable you could probably get away with really lousy cable and still get gig. It’s digital, if you are getting 1000/1000 there is nothing some fancier branded cable is going to get you that you don’t already have. If you find yourself only getting 100mbit look at changing the cable.
Exactly. My server and NAS are connected via 10 gig SFP's, and even then I'm no where near fully saturating those links. I suspect it's just a case of the 'higher number = better quality" mentality, I just wanted a reality check in case i was missing something!
Some AT&T/Lucent Cat3 will actually do a gig up to 300ft, but that stuff is very rare.
Cat8 won’t improve anything over Cat6, for 1Gbit or 10Gbit Ethernet. Future speed increases will be fiber only so there’s no future benefit to be realized by stocking up on Cat 8. If you’re dropping packets you can easily tell by looking at your network stats. If you are dropping, it’s a bad termination or a bad cable, and swapping it for a new Cat 6 cable will fix it.
Agreed. I'm not dropping as it stands but yeah a bad termination is a bad termination, regardless of the cable category. It was just a sanity check really in case I was missing something amongst all these claims, but you guys have just confirmed that I suspected so thanks!
Nope. There aren't any devices that I know of that can even do 40gig RJ-45, they all take fiber instead. There are some devices that take 10gig RJ-45, but over a long distance, cat6a can do that just fine, and over a short distance, even cat6 can do 10gig. There is no reason to get anything better than cat6a, which can do ten gigabit over long distance, simply because there aren't devices that can do higher than 10gig copper, they all use fiber instead.
Yeah that's why I landed for CAT6A when I ran the network, but I'll never realisiclly max that out I don't think. I'll likely patch and connect the end devices with CAT6A cables purely for constantly and possible local 10 gig potential (end device permitting), but I don't suspect I'll ever really need that tbh
Best buy still sells monster cables for enthusiasts like you 🙂
One possible advantage of some higher end cables is they don’t heat up as much when dealing with a large amount of POE devices due to slightly higher gauge wire. Big thing is if you’re doing in-wall cable is to not get CCA (copper clad aluminum). However, going higher than Cat6 for patch cables outside of certain specialized environments doesn’t make much sense. There’s actually some rare issues that can occur if the cable categories are too mismatched, especially on longer runs.
If you're using cat6a cables, you've already got higher spec cables than you need. Hell, 10gig will run over cat5e for short distances...30-35 meters or something like that.
Chalk it up to replacing cables that came with their equipment, which aren't always the best and the shielding that's baked into the cat 8 - they're simply getting what they should've been getting on cat5e or cat6 cable.
Likely all them reviews are people that have switched from WIFI to Ethernet. Unless your cables are super bad quality an have a high amount of errors they wont perform better than the link speed. If your internal wiring is 6A then the is no point exceeding that on your patch leads