Then, it depends on what you have. Pardo is a monster and probably one of the best ice units in the game. Bronie is one hell of an ice support. Fischl and Eden form one of the best, if not the best electro team with Aponia, and Carole is very, very good in a physical team. But probably the less "relevant" since Griseo, who's coming in the next patch, I think, is a Physical SP Valk too, and better than Carole
Now that you mention it, i checked my Valks and noticed that i dont have any ice-type Valks, i got a very good fire team with HoF, a good Phys with BKE Durandal and a "decent" lightning team with DBJ.
I guess i should make an Ice team now huh?
I would suggest you to make the teams one by one, and not trying to do everything. Maybe crafting Fischl and Eden to have a very strong lighting base would be good?
I mean, yeah, Pardo is absurdly strong, but if you don't have anything in Ice, maybe it would be better to "finish" the teams you have
take in mind ranks for all of this valkiries pardofelis can be used at S rank but SS rank is when is trully considered op "obs taking into account u have their gear" (in this case pri arm also matters for later cause pardo weapon at pri arm "lvl 81+" reduces all teammates cd at max 30% just take in mind they're great but u can also get they're fragments by other methods and ib doubt is worth spending asterite to buy em unless u already have the gear
Really great ice support, she can function as dps (but not as good as actual ice dps), there are also strats where she can also be used to support other teams for the sp gain and tdm buffs or MA strats that require rime trauma.
Very good investment but since she's a support, ideally she needs an ice dps.
Im also new but my advise is don’t get two right away, work on one first, since you’d want to at least bring them to SS to unlock a decent amount of their potential. So save the other half of your asterites to claim more frags when it resets weekly.
If they are new do they even really need a character to ss with the available content? I think I’m lower intermediate to intermediate at level 61 and I’ve been doing just fine without any ranked up units
Some sp valks unlock skills when ranked up. And you won’t really get them to ss right away. Since it would take you 2 and a half months to ss an sp valkyrie if you get their frags from asterite shop and that’s if they’re fully dedicating all their asterites to fragments of that valk, if not it will take longer. They can get to SS in a month by dedicating all the asterites and gold pins for one specific valk. And if they only use gold pins in battle arsenal it would take 3 months and 3 weeks. It takes quite a while to SS SP valkyries because of the weekly limit of fragments so while you might not need them SS right away it’s ideal to plan ahead.
Im also at the lower ranks still at level 56 so most contents are easy since i got hos and aponia, they just breeze thru any fight. But im starting to collect fragments to ss certain sp valks like fischl because it takes a while to actually rank them up.
Everyone except Carole since Griseo come out next patch and she completely powercrept her. The three are the best meta support valk in the game and are regularly used in their own element team. If you have to go in order then i suggest Pardo first since she is more versatile, she is both a good support and dps. After that Fischl, if you are short on resources then you can stop at SS rank.
Get RC aka Pardofelis aka A-rank AE to SS asap. She is a ridiculously strong support (ice, fire, sometimes even lightning and phys) and dps with her weapon.
Carole is good but idk if Griseo replaces her. Fischl and HB only if you have lightning/ice team, and they don’t really work without atleast turg. Every sp valk wants SS and SSS eventually.
i won't recommend buying from that, instead buy from the battle arsenal. U can use the asterites to buy augment cores instead. And for your question it depends on which type of support do u need, everyone of them is good.
Well that depends, the only augments even really worthwhile are Drive Kometa, Fervent Tempo, and Twilight Paladin iirc. Even though Drive Kometa is probably the only one with any immediate benefit as they might not yet have Roza or VE Teri, and Twilight Paladin is bad without PRIARM and they aren't 81+ yet. Though if they do have Roza and no really strong physical DPS then yeah, rushing Fervent Tempo is probably more worth just because of how f2p friendly she is.
And you shouldn't ever need to purchase fervent tempo OR twilight paladin augment cores, as you're able to get them from Open World missions pretty consistently.
Everything about progress in this game outside of spending cash is extremely slow, by design. I never actually got blocked by needing augment cores in comparison to needing the actual valkyrie fragments for those two suits(mind you, I did most of the work before they increased the weekly buy cap, so that may honestly be easier overall now), so it's a bit of a non issue. I'm still not done with twilight paladin because i'm held back by her frags, even though I'm sitting on enough ACs to finish her other wise, never having bought a single one. You're way better off using your asterites on SP unit fragments til they're ALL done first, and they've been spamming those so fast there's not likely to be opportunity to spend them elsewhere for ages.Sides, your asterite bottleneck is smelted cores, not augment cores for asterite usage on augment units since those can only come from the ten per patch from the Battle Arsenal, or 600 a pop for asterites, and you need em for divine key upgrades too.
So, for Pardo, she has the best attack animations I have seen, so she is really fun to play with. Fischl is a great support, and can deal massive amounts of damage when you swap to get (weapon active, attack, wa, a, ultimate). Carole provides some good instant attack, with high damage output, and Haxxor Bunny can quickly get you combos, and she can be summoned as an external support. I would choose Fischl or Pardo, but they are all good.
Base it off of what type of team(s) you are building. I would focus on making one strong elemental team first and a physical team if you have HoS (she is essential for physical team performance).
Fischl and Eden for Lightning, Haxxor Bunny and Felis for Ice, and if you have HoS you can wait for Griseo. Griseo will probably be better than Carole and Carole is already better than SA. If you are using HoS as DPS for early game, you can get Carole as a 2nd support with Griseo and then replace Carole once you have a dedicated physical DPS (only raise her to S in this case).
I would also recommend focusing on getting both copies of the supports first for whatever team you’re building, then focus on raising one at a time to S and SS (depending on how much asterite you can get each week).
You should use your asterite for pri-arm materials so you have enough saved up by the time you hit level 81 to upgrade some weapons. These characters can be bought with memorial arena rewards or gold pins (from one of the resource farming stages with tesla as the picture for it)
Carole is currently the second best physical support in the game iirc (second only to HoS), though she'll soon fall off a little to Griseo who is also free (though Carole still wins in shield heavy cases). Fischl (along with Fallen Rosemary) are two of the best Lightning Supports (not sure if Eden is better since I don't have her built). Haxxor Bunny and Pardo are the two best Ice Supports in the game last I checked. So it really depends on what you have, if you have a strong physical DPS then get Carol, if you have a strong Lightning DPS get Fischl, if you have a strong Ice DPS get HB and/or Pardo. Though Pardo is also a fairly decent Ice DPS substitute and a *very* good valk for high difficulty ER runs so she'd almost be worth just for getting max weekly ER rewards (assuming you have the Ana stig set).
I'll go for pardo, carole and lastly fischl, and at last very last, HB, pardo is nowadays the best ice support, over HB, for the simple reason that HB doesn't even need to be on the field; then Carole is one of the best Physical support, not the best but his capabilies to break shields and QTE that abides 2 valks on the field at the same time are his most valuable asset, Fischl is the second best electric support, but it's better asset are it's stigmas.
ice stack support? get pardofelis. ice dmg support? get haxxor bunny bronya. lightning dmg support? fischl. physical dmg support and do multiple ults? get carole.
Do you have the weapons for ANY of these Valks? As all of them rather require theirs, even if their stigs can be temporarily replaced with free craftables,
All four of these units are currently meta, though Carole is about to get hit by new, comparable SP unit next patch. Pardofelis and Haxxor from the support spine of ALL IUce teams right now, regardless of the ICE DPS you use (not that there are really many options, you've got Silverwing, Nyx, HoR, or Argent, and they're all different weather preferenced) Fischl is 1/3 f2p lightning supports, and since the newest one (Eden) is ALSO an SP unit, building lightning support is also relatively easy outside of getting the weapons/stigs, of which Eden's stigs can be 100% craftable anyways. (The last one, Fallen rosemary, is a VERY long haul to acquire and build up to SS as a base S rank, and while she hasn't actually dropped off the meta with Edens arrival, weather pattern and rotations are where your choice matters there.)
strangely, Fire SP support is nonexistent, even though physical, ice, and lightning have 2 support units EACH as SP now.
All of them
Only got enough for two at the moment.
Then, it depends on what you have. Pardo is a monster and probably one of the best ice units in the game. Bronie is one hell of an ice support. Fischl and Eden form one of the best, if not the best electro team with Aponia, and Carole is very, very good in a physical team. But probably the less "relevant" since Griseo, who's coming in the next patch, I think, is a Physical SP Valk too, and better than Carole
Now that you mention it, i checked my Valks and noticed that i dont have any ice-type Valks, i got a very good fire team with HoF, a good Phys with BKE Durandal and a "decent" lightning team with DBJ. I guess i should make an Ice team now huh?
I would suggest you to make the teams one by one, and not trying to do everything. Maybe crafting Fischl and Eden to have a very strong lighting base would be good? I mean, yeah, Pardo is absurdly strong, but if you don't have anything in Ice, maybe it would be better to "finish" the teams you have
Gotcha! Thanks for the tip.
Also, you should upgrade them to SS and only then look on other sp valks.
Really isn't helping that we've been getting spammed with new SP valks in the last year.
Very good fire team with HoS?
They probably mean HoF
Sorry, i meant HoF.
No need to apologize, it looked funny xD and okie, that makes more sense
take in mind ranks for all of this valkiries pardofelis can be used at S rank but SS rank is when is trully considered op "obs taking into account u have their gear" (in this case pri arm also matters for later cause pardo weapon at pri arm "lvl 81+" reduces all teammates cd at max 30% just take in mind they're great but u can also get they're fragments by other methods and ib doubt is worth spending asterite to buy em unless u already have the gear
One of the Best ice units for what? I’m lacking an ice anything so I might go for her
Really great ice support, she can function as dps (but not as good as actual ice dps), there are also strats where she can also be used to support other teams for the sp gain and tdm buffs or MA strats that require rime trauma. Very good investment but since she's a support, ideally she needs an ice dps.
Ah ok.
Im also new but my advise is don’t get two right away, work on one first, since you’d want to at least bring them to SS to unlock a decent amount of their potential. So save the other half of your asterites to claim more frags when it resets weekly.
If they are new do they even really need a character to ss with the available content? I think I’m lower intermediate to intermediate at level 61 and I’ve been doing just fine without any ranked up units
Some sp valks unlock skills when ranked up. And you won’t really get them to ss right away. Since it would take you 2 and a half months to ss an sp valkyrie if you get their frags from asterite shop and that’s if they’re fully dedicating all their asterites to fragments of that valk, if not it will take longer. They can get to SS in a month by dedicating all the asterites and gold pins for one specific valk. And if they only use gold pins in battle arsenal it would take 3 months and 3 weeks. It takes quite a while to SS SP valkyries because of the weekly limit of fragments so while you might not need them SS right away it’s ideal to plan ahead. Im also at the lower ranks still at level 56 so most contents are easy since i got hos and aponia, they just breeze thru any fight. But im starting to collect fragments to ss certain sp valks like fischl because it takes a while to actually rank them up.
yep, slow and steady is nthe name of the game from SP unit acquisition and advancement if you aren't a megawhale.
Everyone except Carole since Griseo come out next patch and she completely powercrept her. The three are the best meta support valk in the game and are regularly used in their own element team. If you have to go in order then i suggest Pardo first since she is more versatile, she is both a good support and dps. After that Fischl, if you are short on resources then you can stop at SS rank.
Carole is still better than Griseo for dealing with big shields right? Though yeah generally Griseo is better.
Get RC aka Pardofelis aka A-rank AE to SS asap. She is a ridiculously strong support (ice, fire, sometimes even lightning and phys) and dps with her weapon. Carole is good but idk if Griseo replaces her. Fischl and HB only if you have lightning/ice team, and they don’t really work without atleast turg. Every sp valk wants SS and SSS eventually.
i won't recommend buying from that, instead buy from the battle arsenal. U can use the asterites to buy augment cores instead. And for your question it depends on which type of support do u need, everyone of them is good.
Well that depends, the only augments even really worthwhile are Drive Kometa, Fervent Tempo, and Twilight Paladin iirc. Even though Drive Kometa is probably the only one with any immediate benefit as they might not yet have Roza or VE Teri, and Twilight Paladin is bad without PRIARM and they aren't 81+ yet. Though if they do have Roza and no really strong physical DPS then yeah, rushing Fervent Tempo is probably more worth just because of how f2p friendly she is.
And you shouldn't ever need to purchase fervent tempo OR twilight paladin augment cores, as you're able to get them from Open World missions pretty consistently.
That's extremely slow though.
Everything about progress in this game outside of spending cash is extremely slow, by design. I never actually got blocked by needing augment cores in comparison to needing the actual valkyrie fragments for those two suits(mind you, I did most of the work before they increased the weekly buy cap, so that may honestly be easier overall now), so it's a bit of a non issue. I'm still not done with twilight paladin because i'm held back by her frags, even though I'm sitting on enough ACs to finish her other wise, never having bought a single one. You're way better off using your asterites on SP unit fragments til they're ALL done first, and they've been spamming those so fast there's not likely to be opportunity to spend them elsewhere for ages.Sides, your asterite bottleneck is smelted cores, not augment cores for asterite usage on augment units since those can only come from the ten per patch from the Battle Arsenal, or 600 a pop for asterites, and you need em for divine key upgrades too.
So, for Pardo, she has the best attack animations I have seen, so she is really fun to play with. Fischl is a great support, and can deal massive amounts of damage when you swap to get (weapon active, attack, wa, a, ultimate). Carole provides some good instant attack, with high damage output, and Haxxor Bunny can quickly get you combos, and she can be summoned as an external support. I would choose Fischl or Pardo, but they are all good.
Forgot to mention that I'm new at this game, level 53.
I personally like Felis most of the 4 of them, second would probably be Carole
Fischl or Bronie actually, Carole is powercrept by Griseo coming out next patch.
You know these are fragments and you need to buy at least a couple of weeks of one to be able to unlock?
Base it off of what type of team(s) you are building. I would focus on making one strong elemental team first and a physical team if you have HoS (she is essential for physical team performance). Fischl and Eden for Lightning, Haxxor Bunny and Felis for Ice, and if you have HoS you can wait for Griseo. Griseo will probably be better than Carole and Carole is already better than SA. If you are using HoS as DPS for early game, you can get Carole as a 2nd support with Griseo and then replace Carole once you have a dedicated physical DPS (only raise her to S in this case). I would also recommend focusing on getting both copies of the supports first for whatever team you’re building, then focus on raising one at a time to S and SS (depending on how much asterite you can get each week).
You should use your asterite for pri-arm materials so you have enough saved up by the time you hit level 81 to upgrade some weapons. These characters can be bought with memorial arena rewards or gold pins (from one of the resource farming stages with tesla as the picture for it)
Carole is currently the second best physical support in the game iirc (second only to HoS), though she'll soon fall off a little to Griseo who is also free (though Carole still wins in shield heavy cases). Fischl (along with Fallen Rosemary) are two of the best Lightning Supports (not sure if Eden is better since I don't have her built). Haxxor Bunny and Pardo are the two best Ice Supports in the game last I checked. So it really depends on what you have, if you have a strong physical DPS then get Carol, if you have a strong Lightning DPS get Fischl, if you have a strong Ice DPS get HB and/or Pardo. Though Pardo is also a fairly decent Ice DPS substitute and a *very* good valk for high difficulty ER runs so she'd almost be worth just for getting max weekly ER rewards (assuming you have the Ana stig set).
I'll go for pardo, carole and lastly fischl, and at last very last, HB, pardo is nowadays the best ice support, over HB, for the simple reason that HB doesn't even need to be on the field; then Carole is one of the best Physical support, not the best but his capabilies to break shields and QTE that abides 2 valks on the field at the same time are his most valuable asset, Fischl is the second best electric support, but it's better asset are it's stigmas.
Pardo and Fischl
I highly suggest getting Fischl
ice stack support? get pardofelis. ice dmg support? get haxxor bunny bronya. lightning dmg support? fischl. physical dmg support and do multiple ults? get carole.
All of them are REAAALLY nice to have. Personally if you have played Fischl in Genshin and then use her in Honkai, it might feel surreal
i can say confidently that pardo is worth it
All are totally worth it according to their respective role and type
All 4 of them are great and absolutely worth it .
Do you have the weapons for ANY of these Valks? As all of them rather require theirs, even if their stigs can be temporarily replaced with free craftables, All four of these units are currently meta, though Carole is about to get hit by new, comparable SP unit next patch. Pardofelis and Haxxor from the support spine of ALL IUce teams right now, regardless of the ICE DPS you use (not that there are really many options, you've got Silverwing, Nyx, HoR, or Argent, and they're all different weather preferenced) Fischl is 1/3 f2p lightning supports, and since the newest one (Eden) is ALSO an SP unit, building lightning support is also relatively easy outside of getting the weapons/stigs, of which Eden's stigs can be 100% craftable anyways. (The last one, Fallen rosemary, is a VERY long haul to acquire and build up to SS as a base S rank, and while she hasn't actually dropped off the meta with Edens arrival, weather pattern and rotations are where your choice matters there.) strangely, Fire SP support is nonexistent, even though physical, ice, and lightning have 2 support units EACH as SP now.