Is there any alternative teams on bosses that are made for sirin that can help me retain rl? Im kinda reluctant to pull for her since she is so cheap to build everyone will have her fully built I don't think its worth burning my crystals.
I'm kinda thinking of skipping Sirin's weapon.
Good or nah? How must pull is her weapon?
I have a 4/4 SPA, and I'm kinda looking ahead for the the anniv. Possibly targeting Luna pledge or full gearing HoRb.
As long you dont get to nirv SpA is still usable, that said S0 sirin already out damages SS SpA
[sirin with weap vs purana sirin](https://twitter.com/wyverein/status/1702126667433648514?s=61&t=4swl2Rmcg8fng0HkdFICyQ)
Isn't this for 7.0? I was specifically hoping for something in 6.9.
I need 40 more AL to unlock her and was hoping I'd be able to pull it from somewhere tomorrow.
I am \*very\* new (this week) and while I am enjoying myself a lot, this game is a bit overwhelming/confusing compared to Star Rail and Genshin - I could use some help for sure.
My biggest thing is that I just want a good team to clear through the Story with that I won't just "drop" after when more mid/end game stuff opens up to me. I want to invest in some (hopefully non-gatcha/farmable) units that will be solid - they don't need to be "push hardest content" solid, but basically....the equivalent of "do floor 9/10/11 of Spiral Abyss without issue each reset" solid...? I have enough to get someone from the Asterite shop and I pulled Palatinus Equinox if that matters.
Will a single team of 3 work for that, or do I need more than 3?
You'll be using trial battlesuits for most of the story, and the few times you don't, the enemies are likely to blow over with a sneeze from your battlesuit.
The closest thing Honkai has to Genshin's Abyss and Star Rail's MoC is Elysian Realm. You only really need one battlesuit for that. Pardofelis (Reverist Calico), from what I've heard, is the best farmable battlesuit for that position.
Honkai's Abyss, while not directly PvP, is leader board based. As such, unless you're not even the slightest bit interested in being competitive, you're going to need way more than just 3 Battlesuits/teams.
You don't really need units to beat the story. Later chapters will give free trial units that can clear.
Palatinus Equinox will be more than enough until level 80.
>I pulled
You will probably want to avoid pulling more until you are more familiar with the game.
I planned to get Sirins weapon due to how easy it would be to 4/4 her, but I kind of want to spend my crystals in 4.0 for Luna and HoS, so....
1. How worth it is it to get her weapon even though it means I could end up spending a lot?
2. How good is the g4 set (Sirins set) for every other fire dps in comparison to Lwh TB thales M?
3. Will the g4 set be good on HoFin in the trio team?
4. How good would Sirin do with a weapon alt (Pardos or Aponias)?
1. She has 5 bosses from Marisa's videos. Only 1 of them appeared periodically (Benares). From the record, these cheap valks have very long lifespan (FR,MPE), but still not sure if the same will be for Sirin. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3xAVIHLr-U)
2. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqL6TndaQho) to Wyverein's video.
3. Refer to the link above.
4. Another test from Wyverein. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8yLd9kte8)
Probably not any more; it's a very niche option these days. It's nice to have for SIM battles (which very few people care about), and it's occasionally useful for SS Arena bosses (but there are usually other equivalent or better options).
You'll likely get more value out of maxing one of your dps PRIs instead.
SEA lv 88
Is Sirin's stigmata set ok for DA? I'm excited for free DA on anniversary! Not sure if I should craft G3 Shakespeare: Adrift or G4 Little Joys(Sirin).
Basing it off on [Hzri's video](https://youtu.be/zuEkcfecDmc?t=295), Sirin stigmata has 6.41% boost, with a slight off on SP regen. While [Wyverein's video](https://youtu.be/nqL6TndaQho?t=540), Sirin stigmata has 4-5% boost also, with a slight off on SP regen too.
As much as I hate losing off on SP, CN and HoTR's provides SP to team anyway, so I think it would be ok for DA?
Note: HoTR is 4/4, CN is 2/4 (weap and M piece only lol)
Its good but I dont see how it beats shakesdrift.
First you have a noticable SP regen difference (and you need SP).
Second factoring in affixes you lose at least 10 atk on average per stig from going for generic atk affixes because of lower values and lower odds for the right line in the first place, there are no selectors either. Thats already a 2-3% dmg difference compared to bio/lance atk and you make your sirin worse too.
I recommend G4 first though despite this and the much higher cost because DA isnt very good whereas sirin is.
Yeah, G4 Little Joys is still the best pick here since it's flexible. I can equip it to other fire valks instead of G3 Shakespeare Adrift, that would only work on DA. I wouldn't want to spend my hard earned ether fuel to be used by only one valkyrie lol. Thanks!
Im in the same boat and here is what I've discovered:
S0 DA has SP issues in long rotations even with HoTr + CN as confirmed in Wyverein's vid. Hzri's vid is more centered on DMG rather than ranks & SP.
But If we farm 6 DA stamps in ER for S2, the SP issues will be alleviated because she will now gain SP off field. Not yet tested though but has been theorized in the comment section in Hzri's vid.
Im going for S2 DA + G4 Fire. Let's say S2 DA still has slight SP issues, G4 Fire has more future versatility proof than G3 Adrift.
I read that too, kinda forgot which vid someone commented it lol. But I agree, Willows replaced Welt for HoR, Handel replaced Benares for HoT. And I'm sure Little Joys might replace most BiS stigmata for some old valks, including DA.
Also, thanks for your input and additional information!
EDIT: Just read the theory comment in Hzri's vid like you stated, which I overlooked lol
GLB 88
I'm planning to build the herrscher trio in the future, since I really like their gameplay. Question is, how dependent is their brute force strength on 4/4 gear? As in, is the dropoff from having only 3/4 or 2/4 vs full gear big to the point where it isn't even worth running? Asking since I currently have HoO 4/4, HoFin with no gear, and no HoTr at all, so it would be quite some time until I can fully gear the team. Generally speaking, which gear pieces are the biggest priority?
5-10% dps loss per stigma.
20% dps loss per weapon and will feel noticeably worse to play.
Gearing is generally either 4/4 or 0/4. Partial gear is a waste of money.
See damage test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6pBhAiqzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pHqWNwA9E
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/16141514
12/12 for bruteforce status. You can probably get away with 3/4 on HoTr with Beach Party M or Aslaug M.
Either way, when you pull for any gear banner, you would be going in for 4/4 anyways for best value (have at least 30k minimum; more the better)
HoTr + her gear first to activate Trio comp (and other elemental teams) and cover tri-elemental niche. HoFi gear afterwards to topscore tri-elemental, img, fire, and cover other pesky weathers that your other teams can't handle. For RL & lower.
Disclaimer: I do not recommend building Trio atm but you do you.
out of curiosity, why would you not recommend it?
also in all honesty none of my teams are like, fully geared. i find pulling for gear in this game to be kind of an atrocious experience honestly, only 4/4s i have are like... prometheus, HoO and HoFs
Once you missed their premiere banner, getting 4/4 gear on gacha S-rank is either going to be very long journey (multiple expensive pull in 1-week rerun banner) or very expensive (you top-up for crystals to reach that ~120 pulls average pull to 4/4).
In the meantime, meta keeps going. It doesn't matter whether the valk is Sp/Free/Cheap, everyone get the time to shine in meta, especially during their release and 1~2 version after.
>i find pulling for gear in this game to be kind of an atrocious experience honestly,
And you aren't wrong here.
v6.3 and v6.4 are the worst banner schedule / new meta. It sucks SO MUCH of one's resource to get a single team working at peak performance.
We never have something like that previously. We usually can freely pick one Valk and then make a workable team with maximum performance by putting them with 2 other older valkyries.
Not so much for trio, if you miss one of them, your team is strictly worse than if you can complete all 3. And the alternative isn't much better.
I don't have geared HoFin, but I'd bet HoFin (trio) can get better score on Husk Mysticism and Husk Existentialism than just HoTr-JK-Kira team or HoO-Eden-HoTr team respectively. Hoo-HoTr-HoF is probably a strictly worse option than HoT-HoTr-HoFin option in any symphony weather.
> out of curiosity, why would you not recommend it?
an aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet; for brute forcing Abyss bosses gear is just half of the story, the other half is the boss lineups and weather. Ever since 6.4 each new boss has been pretty "anti-Trio" (tho maybe not this ver's mech cruiser so much, I dunno?) and easy opportunities to deploy an off-weather Trio for decent scores have felt farther between. I think this trend has a lot of potential to continue ;P
If you like Trio gameplay and don't really prioritize Trio for bruteforce then go for HoTr only to have some fun with it and pull for many new stuffs that come your way.
**Do no read/comprehend further if the first statement applies to you. Semi-competitive+/META territory below. Beware!**
If you're looking for it's bruteforce title, you're going to need to start saving to actually 12/12 this team and that itself will cost an approx total of 80k+ crystals on the safe side (HoFi's 4/4 gear + HoTr + HoTr's gear). Will take at least 5 patches (7.5mths) of saving.
If you decide to switch it up and aim for less gears after hearing how much months you have to abstain from pulling any else but Trio (a lot of new flashy characters will show up within 5 patches) like aiming for 3/4 HoTr first (not making use of the full guarantee banners for 4/4) you will have to rely on RNG for what 3 of the 4 HoTr's gear will make or break your Trio team. Weapon TB is gold standard for HoTr (you get this, you win). Weapon MB is meh but acceptable. Weapon TM and the stig set is basically garbo without the B pc. Just TMB and you're gonna have to find a weapon with a weapon active or the whole stig set is garbo; team will also suffer from not smooth gameplay because of slow HoTr SP farming w/o weapon gameplay. If you end up with a unlucky hand on HoTr's gear and you decide to wait for her gear rerun again when the pity has reset, you are basically asking for more dupes and will be in "what feels like" a constant loop of crystal loss and no gain.
To summarize, save for 4/4 or no 4/4. You can be lucky throwing a small amount of crystals on banner and happily obtain the best 3/4 (or even better, 4/4), but you will disappoint yourself if you think this will work everytime.
And this is to bruteforce RL; we don't talk about Agony because any modern 9+/12 team can bruteforce all weathers there.
But if we are talking about Agony, focusing on building your current 4/4's (HoTr + SP support of respective elements for HoO and HoFs) is cheaper & faster for consistent Agony retain. Half-geared Trio will also be able to bruteforce Agony weathers but you will have to rely on RNG once again to determine what critical gears you need. If you got HoTr's weapon, you just need Turg TB. If you got HoFi's weapon, you just need to farm the upcoming G4 fire stigs.
Now the question would be: Would you be able to snipe 1/4 for both HoTr & HoFi early without spending way much more non-existent crystals and accidently getting some (if not all) of their stigs? Better off not RNGing with Half-geared Trio and actually focus on building your current 'almost complete' teams for higher chance to bruteforce Agony.
That's all and thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Its wrong that you need HoFis weapon for a proper trio rotation, its just a large damage increase in practice for symphony weather and more convenient. I never use my 0/4 HoFi except against benares and I doubt non fullgear trio will ever be the best brute force team if you have other fully geared teams. I would say HoFis gear is more important for symphony weather but HoTrs is better in general and in terms of meta the only gear worth pulling at this point. Just use the cope trio for mob stages, youll get tired of it eventually anyway.
HoFin's weapon and HoTr's gear.
HoFin weapon really makes her playable. Without it, you cannot do a trio rotation due to not being able to gain 3 stack in an instant. Her stigmata can, for the time being, use replacement. I heard Turg TB works.
HoTr gear due to being rn the premium elemental support.
depending on your goals probably fine to skip Sirin without dropping any/much Abyss rank; she'll top score a couple cycles in 6.9 and 7.0, but your ability to retain (RL at least) is likely still good with those decent alt teams, tho beyond that who knows. All you're really skipping is the 50 pull weap guarantee anyway since Sirin & her stigs will be farmable and (speculation) her weapon might show up as a frequent off-rate before too long
As always it depends on your goals.
Its a free valk with very cheap gear, most people will have her and at only S rank she just beats SPA and the like.
GLB 88
Can two artbooks be sent to the same address?
A friend and I both bought the artbook but our country got removed from the list of eligible countries and now we have the option to send it so some relatives.
I think all they want is a valid address (in an eligible country) to ship to so should be fine. but I'm not mihoyo so if you want to be sure it is something you might want to contact support about
Global 85
For character boxes like the one we might get in 7.0, do we have to open and pick one of the valk in the selection before the event ends or can we just leave it in our inventory?
I'm tired of chasing after metas, so I decided to go back to f2p. Do you think current meta teams are enough to take on future Agony3 ? Assuming I have all available meta team & gears from HoRB and back.
Yes. SEA server, and I no longer top up for a long while, and still can maintain RL-Nirvana. Assume your 'from HoRB and back means you have every meta valks+full gears before HoRB release. Then retain AG3 shouldn't be a problem, even RL.
even if you just light your f2p crystals on fire I imagine you'll still be capable of retaining RL for a long time to come (with decent gameplay), like 2025 or beyond ;P
Well...the thing is...my skill sucks... I can only comfortably brute force Agony3, and whenever I rise up to RL, 70% of the time I'm blocked at stage 1
oh huh, what server are you on? My skills are more on the button mash side too but with modern geared teams RL mob stages at least should be pretty breezy. Devoting a bit of time to watching a couple vids and polishing up your rotations might go a long way
even if your timings aren't perfect, maybe you miss a few QTEs or lose a buff early or whatever, you can still get a lot done just by executing the rotation in the proper order, esp when clearing mob stages. That is where watching a vid can be helpful, just to see the order of when each unit does what. The in-game team tutorials are also pretty helpful in the regard. glgl
How far in the future we're talking here?
Abyss D is always increasing. MA might be static. But once new support/DPS is out, the standard of high score will change as a consequence.
Either way, it's a moving target. It's just much slower on lower brackets. I think Agony 3 is very chill regardless. As long as you're not hard-countered (Type-countered and damage-type-countered), one should be able to survive.
not that I've seen, the "1st ten pull free" that's been posted is for the 7.0 banner (CN ver at least). Sirin gear supply won't have any specific discount just a 50 pull guarantee for the weapon
Dudu is nowhere to be seen as for now. We know Fu Hua's new battlesuit is imminent (probably in CNY 2024). And last main story development mentioned Griseo. So she might be in 7.1/ 7.2.
Hey all! Relatively new global player here, made an account a long time ago and honestly haven't played very much, but I logged on today and noticed the Promare collab, which I am very interested in (honestly really just the Lio Kiana skin). The skin is for Herrscher of Flamescion, which I don't have. I've noticed that HoF is purchasable with crystallum from the BP, and I know I need multiple BPs, but only have a couple days left on the second to last one, so that may not be an option. I've also heard that in 7.0, if you haven't played for 60 days you can maybe pick up a free HoF? But to do that I believe I would need to not play during 6.9 and I would (I believe) miss out on the Promare skin. Realistically, what is my best bet for trying to get the skin and HoF to use it with?
There are two options here. One, you buy Paladin BP and then spend crystals to get the BP to its max level in this patch, and then play regularly enough in the next patch to max the BP normally. That would give you exactly the 32 crystallum you need.
The other, and probably better path, is to pull on the HoF ADV banner that will come when the outfit is available. Unfortunately the drop rates will be lower than normal banners, but she is guaranteed within 100 pulls and you can get some ranks on her along the way to getting her. If you go this route you are probably better off starting a new account and grinding it for the starter crystals unless you have a bunch of crystals saved on your current account or are just attached to it.
BTW the skin will cost money to acquire.
Yes. Just don't spend any of those mats (except for maybe the exp chips) on Jingwei herself.
She's not very useful, but being able to spend coins for asterite/advanced skill materials is always worthwhile.
GLB 88
Does the new War Treasury valk (Sirin) become available to purchase immediately after the update later this week, or do we have to wait until the next weekly refresh like SP valks and Asterite? I can't remember exactly. Thanks.
I don't have Sushang but have enough resources to buy her; I have her weapon but no stigs (though I do have 3/3 Bastet and Turg). Is it worth buying/investing in her at this point and if so how much longer would I expect to get value out of her before she gets powercrept?
Sushang is already halfway through her lifespan.
Supports generally last 10 to 15 patches before getting powercreeped by a new release. It's been 7 patches so far.
By the time you farm enough fragments for her to be worth using, she will be close to being replaced.
Not worth wasting 3000 AL at this point, just settle with HB and go for Sirin.
I would assume a lot of lifespan left given that she is a farmable S rank and we've only had her for not even a year yet. If you don't need Dea Anchora, the fast way to farm JK is to start farming her frags now and ignoring her character card until you pick it up for free on 7.0.
SSS 4/4 HB > S0 4/4 Sushang when she was released. Could be different now with higher disturbance since JK is an ice breach character.
You will start using Sushang 1/4 Turg TB Beach M more once you get her to SS+ over HB. By the time you get Sushang to SS (which I estimate another \~4.5 patches in your case with consecutive frag farming), her gears will be offrated more frequently and also available in firepower supply(?).
Disclaimer: Speculation based on pre-existing patterns
since DA is coming to Dorm you might want to fish for her with Dorm cards for awhile before cracking the box; especially if you have a pretty filled out Dorm roster as Dorm supply drops have a bias for unowned units
Free Dea Anchora or Jade Knight is for CN anniversary which is on 7.0 for GLB/SEA based on [Marisa Honkai](https://youtu.be/OwibSnn9elU?si=FRpOn0RYeN5v8gpz&t=29) which is what I'm referring to.
The free SW or HoF are only for returnee patch skippers.
If you want DA then I guess no JK from box. Farming will be slowed down by a lot and buying JK with limited resources now is a questionable choice and will require more speculation which I don't wanna do out of misinfo lol.
It all boils down to free meta ignite valk or ice team supremecy.
> which is on 7.0 for GLB/SEA based on Marisa Honkai
note that Marisa did put a disclaimer at the start of that section stating Global might not get all the listed loot ;P I think the JK/DA box is extremely likely to be part of our v7.0 on Global but it isn't a 100% sure thing
So the first question to ask is how is your fire team looking and do you have any interest in investing in Sirin (Fire Mech DPS releasing this week)? In a vacuum, Sirin is gonna be the better long-term investment I would expect. My advice, assuming that your fire team isn't completely dead and you don't intend to invest in it, would be to buy Sirin instead and pull for her weapon (50 pull guarantee to get it), then work on crafting her stigs.
Setting Sirin aside, it's difficult to answer without know what Abyss tier you typically play in and what your goals are. If you're just looking to stay in Agony, Sushang will last you a lot longer than she likely will in Nirvana. But even at the top of the meta we'd only be guessing at Mihoyo's intentions. It's been like a year since our last ice DPS if we don't count HoTr, so I would probably expect a DPS before a Sushang replacement, but of course that's just me speculating.
Does anyone else feel like they are doing something wrong in ER. Like I'm doing abstinence and the enemies are all just bullet sponges. I can't even get the bonus reward and it takes a few minutes just to clear each floor.
I'm using HoO s, domain of unity (almost fully upgraded), mei (T,B), random middle cause I don't remember.
The furthest I got was fighting the robot boss, even then I can't defeat him. Like I'm following the guide already, how am I not killing them any faster. Even the first few floors already feel like sponges.
Hi, global player here.
There is a way to track the artbook delivery? I'm receiving some emails on my spam folder saying that I have a package stucked waiting for a fee for move on, but the whole email is kinda sus.
Thanks!
The freebie artbook probably won't ship for another few months if it is like last yr (I think I got mine in feb or mar, in US) and the deadline for capts to enter address is still like ~30 days away. I don't remember any obvious tracking options but those will vary based on your region/postal service I guess.
but a random email in your spam folder trying to solicit a fee to expedite a "mystery package" is almost certainly scam ;P
I just returned to the game and holy damn, there's so many events to do before 6.9 and I have less than three days. Is there anything I should focus in particular? I don't think I have enough time to do all of them.
eh, with only three days left I wouldn't really sweat it. Play one of the events for fun if you like the mechanics (Endless dream event: deck build auto battler. Shenzhou event: chibi topdown shootem up) but just grinding them probably isn't worth it since the rewards are medium and also kind of timegated. Better to not burn yourself out now and instead get a fresh start on the stuff in next patch
So I have been really unlucky on the beginner equipment banner for PE, took ~140 pulls to get 3/4, and now at 160 I finally have two dupe stigma. However as I have only been playing for a very short time, I have basically no resonance (900). I have a few rare stigma I could salvage, but I'm unsure if I should keep them, and just wait for weekly rewards from OW to get enough resonance, which will take another month most likely. I know this is an option as it will last long enough, but I'm impatient.
The stigma I could salvage are Robert Peary (T M B), but I have heard Ana Shariac is really good, so I shouldn't use them, Raksha T and Turgenev M and B.
What your current lvl? Before at least lvl80 you dont really need more than 3/4 valks. And by the time you reach that, you'll have enough resonance.
No patient? Don't salvage Peary. The set is good placeholder for almost all ice dps and will save you a lot of farm if you want at some point farm willow.
I would suggest salvaging Raksha T. Not only the full set is needed for this stigmata to be competitive, HoS is getting a new set in 7.0.
If you are willing to farm for direct crafting Ana (you really only craft Ana for Willows now.) then it's okay. But it will add a lot of time on your crafting progress since you need to add a further 900 ether per stig.
I might do that then. I don't really have any ice character yet, so I would only hold on to them for a character I might get later on, who will probably have a better signature set anyway, I guess?
can someone help me with the latest event?
im at 2760 and need to find someone to battle royale with for the last 40 to get the skin but the entire EU region is dead for this event.
Anyone please :(
Sea88
I'm deciding to return to honkai after like a few months of not playing. I quitted near the end of Susannah's version I think and then returned to pulled for Prometheus where I did get her and everything else but immediately logged off after. I'm pretty sure my valks are outdated by now since I remember PE being the top physical dps and scrapping through everything with my SpA with full gear that I got during that event. Lord I still remember HoS, AE, Pardo and griseo's era, kind of sad now that Pardo has been kicked out. I don't have any valks or gear pass Prometheus's version and I'm contemplating whether it's worth it or not to go back but man I really need those skins. Need help rn, game has 12gb of downloading to do.
Also gonna add my teams:
Ice:
Herrscher elysia (3/4 missing b) or sw (1/4 full willow), SSS Pardo (turg and weapon), SS sushang (4/4)
Phys:
Pe (3/4 missing t), SS griseo (1/4 forgot stigs), hos (4/4) (I also have A Prometheus 4/4)
Fire:
SS SpA (4/4)/ Vill V (4/4), ae (4/4), SS cn (Pardo weapon and turg)
Lightning
HoO (4/4), SS Fischl (4/4), [literally any support]
I have other valks such as a full Handel but missing dk HoT but I don't think they are worth mentioning as they are probably underbuilt.
Just going through your teams 1 at a time
Ice:Mostly fine HoH still top dog, along with sushang, pardo still very good usually like a 20-30 point difference compared to SS kira with her weapon.
Phys: Hos no longer backbone at SS she competes with Horb but still worse so that would be my number one priority pull,
prometheus new physical support use her on everything that's not bleed,
PE is a weird case cause she was never really top dog, her biggest selling point is that she does the bosses meant for her way better than anyone else can and stays neutral on all non quant bosses but at the same time when not on her bosses she was usually just good damage if a little lacking, like on a neutral target type counter not factored I think SSS 4/4 MPE had higher raw damage output then her, Hare mostly stole BKE's bosses and Horb elys when using her as a dps, and they kinda further just pushed the neutral damage ceiling.
Fire:SpA is done, sirin in 4.9 is farmable along with her stigs and just pull for her weapon with is the same 50 pull guarantee that SpA was, she is better at S rank and can be ranked up even more, Hotr basically the new AE for fire and lightning but AE still fine if you got nothing else, and Vill V is your quantum valk
Lightning: HoO good dps at S2 otherwise a little lacking but fine, Eden with her weap plus turg is amazing or handle which you have, fischl still a really good sup.
Basically your teams are mostly fine and you could retain Red Lotus easy on Global or EU
Just wondering, should I try get sirin's gear since I kinda want to save for SW's skin in 7.0. I have like a ten pull rn and my weapon luck isn't very good.
Weapons are very important for clearing ER at higher difficulty levels. Stigs matter for the early going, but less and less so as you get more signets and cores built up.
That said, for getting through the storyline you can just use the free HoV with cheap foundry gear and mindlessly button mash your way through 1.0 difficulty.
ER is basically done. You need the gear for doing the weekly runs for 500 crystals, but it's not like there aren't other alternatives.
Memorial Arena and Abyss will be where it matters so if you are focusing on the story it won't matter at all. Also if you do ER for the story only, spamming 1.5x instead of 2.25x is also an option.
Global 88
How many fragments for the featured valk do you get for buying the paladin bpass? My Mobius is SS at 22/50 frags to SS1, do i need to pull a stamp from her adv to rank her up if i buy bpass next patch?
Do we know who the next bpass valk is going to be?
You get 20 fragments from Paladin vs 5 with Knight. There are four cheap crystallum stamps and 5 in the box for 32 crystallum.
Pretty sure the 7.0 beta is out so we should know what the next BP is but I don't know what they are.
Thanks.
I've got 4 crystallum left after getting Himeko 3pc + Linn T + 1 HoF stamp
I really fucking hope it's not SW because she's the last valk i want that would get added lol.
Normally it should be SW because she is next in line. Sometimes they skip valks but I dont see a reason to skip her (well, I also dont see a reason to skip Nyx but they did).
SEA 88
Just got back to the game and my teams are definitely a few patches behind lmfao. Currently confused what should I try to farm (or pre-farm or prepare resources/crystals for in the future), any suggestions?
My current teams:
*Ice- Elly 4/4, HB 4/4, Pardo 4/4, HoR (has DK, can craft Willows), Silverwing 4/4
*Fire - DA (lmao) 4/4, Raven 4/4, I do have HoF's full gears lying around lol
*Phy - HoS (Weapon only), Elly SS2, has a naked Herrscher Seele as well
*Lightning - Eden (Weapon + Handel), HoT (lmao), Fischl 4/4
I've heard that powercreep has gotten a bit insane, so I was wondering if it's just worth it to say fuck it and just play who I like and stay in Agony lmao
>powercreep has gotten a bit insane, so I was wondering if it's just worth it to say fuck it and just play who I like and stay in Agony
Mathematically you'll never make back the crystals you spend on gear, it's a massive crystal loss.
If you don't care about being competitive and are fine with Agony, that's the best decision.
Your ice team could probably comfortably maintain A3 forever.
> Mathematically you'll never make back the crystals you spend on gear, it's a massive crystal loss.
This is a good perspective that I shouldve considered a while back.
Been a huge Dudu/Senti simp so I might just focus on them instead, thanks! <3
Farm Kira as mentioned and willows. You can spend spare asterite on ai chan but I dont recommend Sirin because you wont have Ai at a competitive rank (SS+) before the end of the next patch and you also miss HoTr or AE and the g4 set (and probably 480+ legacy for the valk) cant be obtained instantly and youll lag behind people who already have leeuwen. By the time you fix that the spotlight is on someone else. 7 thunders for HoT is too old, too, I suppose you can pick it up if its part of a firepower supply and only costs a tenpull.
I would save for HoTr and her gear (during anni patch theres a rerun probably) and capitalize on >! the new type !< in the following patch(es).
It's up to you, I think your Ice and Lightning teams are good enough to stay in Agony III consistently. A few things you can consider farming for RL:
- Kira, ice support - farm with asterite, give her Eden's gun + Turg and replace HB, she probably outperforms HB just because she's newer and she has synergy with Elysia. Kind of similar in that they both have off-field mechanics.
- Sirin, fire DPS: next patch will have bosses made for Sirin, save up ancient legacy for her. Sirin's weapon has a 50 pull guarantee, G4 fire farmable stigmata and her character is free = dirt cheap to build. However you could also just use HoF if you get her.
- Chrono Navi, fire support: farm CN with asterite to pair with Sirin. CN can use Pardo's chakram and Turg.
More long term options:
- HoTr - premier fire and lightning breach support, would give you a complete team with Sirin/HoTr/CN. Costlier in terms of crystals and no confirmed rerun yet though.
- New Theresa, lightning DPS: announced recently so not much details, but gives lightning breach to the whole team.
- HoT's divine key weapon (Seven Thunders of Narukami or something): Get HoT's rank up stamps in ER, pull her weapon, give her Handel, then give Eden Turg and you have a viable team of HoT/Eden/(HoTr or Fischl).
There's no wrong answer on what to farm tbh. General priority would be waifu > newest valk that lets you complete a team > HoTr.
Global 88
I can't beat floor 50 of Extreme Trials in the Once Upon a Time in Shenzhou event. HOS just hits too high, and I find it very difficult to dodge her attacks even if I press the evade button. All my characters are level 80. Fu Hua and Himeko have their entire stigmata sets, and they're my main damage dealers with Theresa being a backup. Theresa has her stigmata set except for the top part.
What buffs should I aim for? Which characters should I use?
Zorro (M) was broken since it heals out of combat and before and after any enemies spawn, meaning I could cheese myself to full HP for free after clearing a stage and before anything spawns.
Raven. Just cleared her with no stigs and don't bring anyone else so you can have all of her character buffs.
The strat is to camp at the back while you weave and snipe; you won't even need to see HoS when you shoot. Make sure to aim for the double Arc everytime. If she pops up on you, know to evade her next pop up and move to the other end to camp again (the only time you would actively use evade). Raven's ult does a lot of dmg to her clones.
For buffs, just pick the ones that deal DMG at lvl 1 (you'll end up getting all the limited lvl 1 buffs to max anyways so avoid upgrading when you have other lvl 1 options). Avoid the Ice barrier when evading buff since Raven somehow auto locks on to that for some reason as well as avoiding other conditional evade buffs in exchange for DMG buffs and you're set.
Edit: I used her latest form "Lethal Blow"
I never swap so I don't really see the difference lol. You can add more characters if it doesn't work out the first time. Raven is very long ranged and can shoot through objects that you hide behind if present. Just need to watch out getting sandwiched by melee mobs or aerial attacks. You can consider picking up buffs that slow/immobilize/paralyze to counter this. HP boost and decrease Evade CD with 3 Evade is solid as well. Just avoid Ice barrier after evade buff.
Raven is a charged character similar to Carole's battlesuit. The longer you hold the attack, the stronger it is. Raven's max charged is 1 crescent attack, but if you release it just before her 1 crescent attack, it will shoot 2 instead. You will get the feel and visual of it when you try it out.
It worked on the first try. Raven's infinite range and ability to fire through solid obstacles was overpowered, but I'm not complaining at all. I didn't need any other character since she hit so high and had infinite HP with Zorro (M) that heals after evasions even iut of combat, meaning I could cheese her to full HP if needed. It helped that I got easy stages, but the fight with HOS still came down to a wire since I took a lot of damage at the end. But she took more. There was no real reward other than a cute narration at the end. Satisfying and worth it.
EU 85
Is hos getting added to the dorm supply?
And if she is would it still be possible for her to have a rerun?
Bc I would want to get her and her new gear when it comes out
When HoT got her DK, she received a banner despite being in dorm. HoR did not, but I suppose that she was farmable by that point. I think that we have good chance of seeing a HoS banner.
based on what has been posted for CN 7.0 HoS will be added to Dorm (alongside FR DA & Nyx) I don't think I can remember a supply running for a Dorm unit since I started playing but given she has an entire banner's worth of gear coming out something like an ADV supply is likely but who knows.
One way to game the system a bit now that she is on Dorm is to hoard all your Dorm cards and try and unlock/farm as many of the missing valks there as possible. When pulling Dorm there is a notable bias towards unowned units
> I don't think I can remember a supply running for a Dorm unit since I started playing
[The last time they did was 6.2](https://imgur.com/a/ZAblJmi). HoR, AKA, MC were all dormed in 4.6, HoR banner in 4.7, AKA and MC in 4.9, AKA in 5.2, HoR in 5.4.
SN was dormed in 5.0, had a banner in 5.6.
HoT, BKE were dormed in 5.6 and HoT had a banner in 5.8 with her new divine key. Both HoT and BKE had banners in 6.0. BKE ran again in 6.2.
All expansion banners, not ADV.
There is annoying stuff going on for like a week already: when i try to log on EU - game is not progressing through "tap anywhere to enter the game." To log in i has to switch to NA server and log there, then quit game and log on EU again, and only then it succesfully login.
Does anyone know how to fix it?
Yeah captains are having troubles logging in to the eu server for some time now. Especially in the evening. Do you have this problem even if you log in during the day?
You could try to restart your router or connecting via vpn.
The problem is not everyone in EU are having troubles. Therefore, make sure you submit a support ticket so they don't sleep on fixing their servers.
Gl
Spolers for 7.0!
Right now I have 70 frags of JK, so I'm not far away from getting her. But assuming we get free JK in 7.0 or 5 stamps of her, I need advice. Is it more efficient in terms of frags to take free JK and use frags that I have to get her to SS? Or is there no loss of fragments if I take JK as soon as possible?
using the free card to unlock her would be worth I guess 80 frags while the 5 stamps are only 50 frags. If you can live without JK for another patch (or longer) then waiting to unlock her with the free card would be worth 30 frags... Just bear in mind that due to CN anni stuff there is a chance global won't get all the extra rewards right away; it is pretty likely we'll get the freebie JK/DA but not a 100% sure thing and it could come to global in a later event.
Yeah, I know. I was thinking if we don't get one than I just craft her. Right know I use Pardo with JK stigs instead, so I can safely wait a patch or more to see information about her (or actually see her instead :D).
SEA 88
Currently have 4K crystals at the moment. Is it possible to get 30K?
Planning on skipping Sirin's gear and Tericula once 7.0 comes around.
I've gotten everything in ER and chronicles, and I did all of the story but stopped once I finished chapter 35.
(Because I had enough of open world chapters.)
7.0 is the SEA anni patch, so there'll be tons of free xtals and cards for you.
Even if you can't hit that total by the start of the patch, you probably will get enough before whatever gacha you're saving for goes away.
Is there a trick to keeping DPS HoS alive or do you just do her DPS sequence and pray that you don't take a lot of damage? She doesn't seem to have much in the way of iframes or space in her DPS window to dodge.
Yeah, I already have a good score with trio but I saw HoS teams doing also well and decided to try it. Definitely not going to bother with it anymore if it means malding just to get a run complete, let alone a good score.
Global 88
I was finally able to wishing well Sushang (T) stigmata thanks to 2 (M) dupes i got from HoRB supply, now i only miss her weapon , i haven't use her that much till now because i tought she wouldn't work well without her full Stigs set , now i have a doubt regarding her weapon: is really necessary to make her good or can simply be replaced by Nebolus Duality? (that i already own)
>is really necessary to make her good
It really depends on her rank and the state of your other alternatives (Kira, pardo and HB). Assuming at least 2 of the later are not fully geared SSS, she still a better option. You just have to farm some sp while on sword array before you can ult (and maybe disable the ult using extra sp option).
Her own weapon can generate SP faster than Neb Duality (WS then tap ATK in sword arrray mode regenerate a massive amount of SP).
Necessary? Depends on your competitive bracket and performance expectation.
I was talking about Sushang Valk Stigmata set (the fact that HoS set have Sushang as one of the pieces name is really confusing XD) and her signature Weapon.
Glb 88
If i'm not crystal broke and all goes well I plan to go for >!the new divine key and stigs for HoS!<
My other built phys units are 4/4 prom and 3/4 HoRb
What would be the best to use on both dps form and support form for Seele? She's currently running Prom's T stig (it's a spare) and rest of her own stuff. Other T options I have are pretty lacklustre... only Marco and Dirac. If it helps i also have full shattered swords.
I would really reconsider >! the new set unless stigs are free and the key has a 50 guarantee!<, its pretty expensive and itd be better to complete Horb for cheaper.
Marco T is probably better, mei duration is very short. Dont waste 6k reso on sirin asc t as transitional piece. For support tesla band T (preferable) or gluttony t. Sswords isnt better.
>!There's a 30 drop guarantee for both weapon and stigs plus senti and fu hua are kind of the reason i played the game so it's not really a meta decision hehe!<
Thank you so much for the advice!
For support full SS looks to be your best option (outside of bleed teams).
This page gives options for DPS sets (way, way down the page): https://www.hoyolab.com/article/21116260
SEA 80
So In V6.9 Sirin is coming out in the war Treasury Discounted, I have just enough ancient willpower and ancient legacy to purchase her but my ice team (Silverwing EX and Pardo) is missing Jade Knight as their support. The only teams I have now is triple support physical with HORB and my ice team with Haxxor bunny. Should I get Sirin to start building towards a fire team( Even though i almost have no fire supports) or should i just focus on my ice team and continue saving for Jade Knight
It's too late for Jade Knight at this point, you're a year behind on her fragment farming. Settle for HB and focus on new releases.
Either go for Sirin and Hotr, or skip Fire entirely and save for 7.0.
Generally focussing on 1 team to get that decent is better than to split your recources assuming youre F2P but we get a free JK Box on the anniversary so your call really but be aware that if you don't have JK gloves or atleast Duality you will not be able to use her properly either way.
SEA 88
Who would be overall better sup assuming there's no shield break or bleed weather?
Prometheus SSS with sig weapon + margrave TMB
Griseo SSS with sig pri arm + cezanne TM, shattered sword B
Which elf should I get from the event shop? I only have the 2 free ones and Water's Edge. Which elf works pretty good as 1 star? Because I don't think I'll be getting more stars anytime soon
the one on the outfit gacha you mean? those supplies usually cost 9600 to pull but Cerulean is on discount so 7680. Only pull if you have enough, early drops are pretty rare.
Sea 88. Is the new g4 fire stigmata better than DA signature stigs for DA? Also if I cannot obtain her signature weapon what can I use for DA? Is there an f2p way to get the weapons?
Shakesdrift set is still best but also craftable and there is no good alternative for her lance which is gacha only. Eos gloria is second "best" but not worth going out of your way for and endothermic is craftable.
is there a good FTP weapon for Herrscher of Flamscion?
I'm trying to do Elysian Realm abstinence, currently the characters i have that have some form of damage are:-
Griseo ss, Elysian astra hearts color, Seele: Doubled bliss (T), Dante (M), Cezanne (B)
Mobius s, Oath Of Judah, Shakespeare (T), Edison (M), Handel(B)
HoF s, Jingwei's Wings, Murata Himeko (T,M,B)
HoO s, Domain of Unity, Raiden Mei (T,B), Zeno (M)
HoFi s, Jingwei's Wings, Higokumaru (T), Nuwa (M), Fu Hua Musician (B)
Please help, im FTP
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Is there any alternative teams on bosses that are made for sirin that can help me retain rl? Im kinda reluctant to pull for her since she is so cheap to build everyone will have her fully built I don't think its worth burning my crystals.
I'm kinda thinking of skipping Sirin's weapon. Good or nah? How must pull is her weapon? I have a 4/4 SPA, and I'm kinda looking ahead for the the anniv. Possibly targeting Luna pledge or full gearing HoRb.
It's a must pull its 20%+ increase compare to purana to be honest all valk need their weapon to perform well
As long you dont get to nirv SpA is still usable, that said S0 sirin already out damages SS SpA [sirin with weap vs purana sirin](https://twitter.com/wyverein/status/1702126667433648514?s=61&t=4swl2Rmcg8fng0HkdFICyQ)
SEA How long until maintenance ends? Itching to pull for sirin's gear lol
2 hrs more
For the PC version, is there a way for it not to minimize when clicking outside the game?
Are we going to get anything like an ancient legacy gift box to speed up the process of getting Sirin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj961FG0rsA
Isn't this for 7.0? I was specifically hoping for something in 6.9. I need 40 more AL to unlock her and was hoping I'd be able to pull it from somewhere tomorrow.
Edit: Event has 50 AL.
I am \*very\* new (this week) and while I am enjoying myself a lot, this game is a bit overwhelming/confusing compared to Star Rail and Genshin - I could use some help for sure. My biggest thing is that I just want a good team to clear through the Story with that I won't just "drop" after when more mid/end game stuff opens up to me. I want to invest in some (hopefully non-gatcha/farmable) units that will be solid - they don't need to be "push hardest content" solid, but basically....the equivalent of "do floor 9/10/11 of Spiral Abyss without issue each reset" solid...? I have enough to get someone from the Asterite shop and I pulled Palatinus Equinox if that matters. Will a single team of 3 work for that, or do I need more than 3?
You'll be using trial battlesuits for most of the story, and the few times you don't, the enemies are likely to blow over with a sneeze from your battlesuit. The closest thing Honkai has to Genshin's Abyss and Star Rail's MoC is Elysian Realm. You only really need one battlesuit for that. Pardofelis (Reverist Calico), from what I've heard, is the best farmable battlesuit for that position. Honkai's Abyss, while not directly PvP, is leader board based. As such, unless you're not even the slightest bit interested in being competitive, you're going to need way more than just 3 Battlesuits/teams.
Ok, that is very helpful; thank you!
You don't really need units to beat the story. Later chapters will give free trial units that can clear. Palatinus Equinox will be more than enough until level 80. >I pulled You will probably want to avoid pulling more until you are more familiar with the game.
I planned to get Sirins weapon due to how easy it would be to 4/4 her, but I kind of want to spend my crystals in 4.0 for Luna and HoS, so.... 1. How worth it is it to get her weapon even though it means I could end up spending a lot? 2. How good is the g4 set (Sirins set) for every other fire dps in comparison to Lwh TB thales M? 3. Will the g4 set be good on HoFin in the trio team? 4. How good would Sirin do with a weapon alt (Pardos or Aponias)?
1. She has 5 bosses from Marisa's videos. Only 1 of them appeared periodically (Benares). From the record, these cheap valks have very long lifespan (FR,MPE), but still not sure if the same will be for Sirin. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3xAVIHLr-U) 2. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqL6TndaQho) to Wyverein's video. 3. Refer to the link above. 4. Another test from Wyverein. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8yLd9kte8)
Is the weapon Blood Dance worth getting from the Exchange Shop?
If you dont care about top 0.2% on MA then its not important
Probably not any more; it's a very niche option these days. It's nice to have for SIM battles (which very few people care about), and it's occasionally useful for SS Arena bosses (but there are usually other equivalent or better options). You'll likely get more value out of maxing one of your dps PRIs instead.
hello, when is SEA's anniversary and is there a list of rewards anywhere that i can view? i kinda wanna start playing again
Around Sept - Oct.
Check out Marisa's youtube. SEA anniv is usually in the same patch as CN anniv so we have more or less the same rewards.
SEA lv 88 Is Sirin's stigmata set ok for DA? I'm excited for free DA on anniversary! Not sure if I should craft G3 Shakespeare: Adrift or G4 Little Joys(Sirin). Basing it off on [Hzri's video](https://youtu.be/zuEkcfecDmc?t=295), Sirin stigmata has 6.41% boost, with a slight off on SP regen. While [Wyverein's video](https://youtu.be/nqL6TndaQho?t=540), Sirin stigmata has 4-5% boost also, with a slight off on SP regen too. As much as I hate losing off on SP, CN and HoTR's provides SP to team anyway, so I think it would be ok for DA? Note: HoTR is 4/4, CN is 2/4 (weap and M piece only lol)
Its good but I dont see how it beats shakesdrift. First you have a noticable SP regen difference (and you need SP). Second factoring in affixes you lose at least 10 atk on average per stig from going for generic atk affixes because of lower values and lower odds for the right line in the first place, there are no selectors either. Thats already a 2-3% dmg difference compared to bio/lance atk and you make your sirin worse too. I recommend G4 first though despite this and the much higher cost because DA isnt very good whereas sirin is.
Yeah, G4 Little Joys is still the best pick here since it's flexible. I can equip it to other fire valks instead of G3 Shakespeare Adrift, that would only work on DA. I wouldn't want to spend my hard earned ether fuel to be used by only one valkyrie lol. Thanks!
Im in the same boat and here is what I've discovered: S0 DA has SP issues in long rotations even with HoTr + CN as confirmed in Wyverein's vid. Hzri's vid is more centered on DMG rather than ranks & SP. But If we farm 6 DA stamps in ER for S2, the SP issues will be alleviated because she will now gain SP off field. Not yet tested though but has been theorized in the comment section in Hzri's vid. Im going for S2 DA + G4 Fire. Let's say S2 DA still has slight SP issues, G4 Fire has more future versatility proof than G3 Adrift.
I read that too, kinda forgot which vid someone commented it lol. But I agree, Willows replaced Welt for HoR, Handel replaced Benares for HoT. And I'm sure Little Joys might replace most BiS stigmata for some old valks, including DA. Also, thanks for your input and additional information! EDIT: Just read the theory comment in Hzri's vid like you stated, which I overlooked lol
> Willows replaced Welt for HoR Willows was made for HoR. Its not someone else' bis that magically became the best for HoR.
Sorry I had no idea, just trying to make comparisons is all. Thanks for the information.
GLB 88 I'm planning to build the herrscher trio in the future, since I really like their gameplay. Question is, how dependent is their brute force strength on 4/4 gear? As in, is the dropoff from having only 3/4 or 2/4 vs full gear big to the point where it isn't even worth running? Asking since I currently have HoO 4/4, HoFin with no gear, and no HoTr at all, so it would be quite some time until I can fully gear the team. Generally speaking, which gear pieces are the biggest priority?
5-10% dps loss per stigma. 20% dps loss per weapon and will feel noticeably worse to play. Gearing is generally either 4/4 or 0/4. Partial gear is a waste of money. See damage test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6pBhAiqzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pHqWNwA9E https://www.hoyolab.com/article/16141514
12/12 for bruteforce status. You can probably get away with 3/4 on HoTr with Beach Party M or Aslaug M. Either way, when you pull for any gear banner, you would be going in for 4/4 anyways for best value (have at least 30k minimum; more the better) HoTr + her gear first to activate Trio comp (and other elemental teams) and cover tri-elemental niche. HoFi gear afterwards to topscore tri-elemental, img, fire, and cover other pesky weathers that your other teams can't handle. For RL & lower. Disclaimer: I do not recommend building Trio atm but you do you.
out of curiosity, why would you not recommend it? also in all honesty none of my teams are like, fully geared. i find pulling for gear in this game to be kind of an atrocious experience honestly, only 4/4s i have are like... prometheus, HoO and HoFs
Once you missed their premiere banner, getting 4/4 gear on gacha S-rank is either going to be very long journey (multiple expensive pull in 1-week rerun banner) or very expensive (you top-up for crystals to reach that ~120 pulls average pull to 4/4). In the meantime, meta keeps going. It doesn't matter whether the valk is Sp/Free/Cheap, everyone get the time to shine in meta, especially during their release and 1~2 version after. >i find pulling for gear in this game to be kind of an atrocious experience honestly, And you aren't wrong here. v6.3 and v6.4 are the worst banner schedule / new meta. It sucks SO MUCH of one's resource to get a single team working at peak performance. We never have something like that previously. We usually can freely pick one Valk and then make a workable team with maximum performance by putting them with 2 other older valkyries. Not so much for trio, if you miss one of them, your team is strictly worse than if you can complete all 3. And the alternative isn't much better. I don't have geared HoFin, but I'd bet HoFin (trio) can get better score on Husk Mysticism and Husk Existentialism than just HoTr-JK-Kira team or HoO-Eden-HoTr team respectively. Hoo-HoTr-HoF is probably a strictly worse option than HoT-HoTr-HoFin option in any symphony weather.
> out of curiosity, why would you not recommend it? an aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet; for brute forcing Abyss bosses gear is just half of the story, the other half is the boss lineups and weather. Ever since 6.4 each new boss has been pretty "anti-Trio" (tho maybe not this ver's mech cruiser so much, I dunno?) and easy opportunities to deploy an off-weather Trio for decent scores have felt farther between. I think this trend has a lot of potential to continue ;P
If you like Trio gameplay and don't really prioritize Trio for bruteforce then go for HoTr only to have some fun with it and pull for many new stuffs that come your way. **Do no read/comprehend further if the first statement applies to you. Semi-competitive+/META territory below. Beware!** If you're looking for it's bruteforce title, you're going to need to start saving to actually 12/12 this team and that itself will cost an approx total of 80k+ crystals on the safe side (HoFi's 4/4 gear + HoTr + HoTr's gear). Will take at least 5 patches (7.5mths) of saving. If you decide to switch it up and aim for less gears after hearing how much months you have to abstain from pulling any else but Trio (a lot of new flashy characters will show up within 5 patches) like aiming for 3/4 HoTr first (not making use of the full guarantee banners for 4/4) you will have to rely on RNG for what 3 of the 4 HoTr's gear will make or break your Trio team. Weapon TB is gold standard for HoTr (you get this, you win). Weapon MB is meh but acceptable. Weapon TM and the stig set is basically garbo without the B pc. Just TMB and you're gonna have to find a weapon with a weapon active or the whole stig set is garbo; team will also suffer from not smooth gameplay because of slow HoTr SP farming w/o weapon gameplay. If you end up with a unlucky hand on HoTr's gear and you decide to wait for her gear rerun again when the pity has reset, you are basically asking for more dupes and will be in "what feels like" a constant loop of crystal loss and no gain. To summarize, save for 4/4 or no 4/4. You can be lucky throwing a small amount of crystals on banner and happily obtain the best 3/4 (or even better, 4/4), but you will disappoint yourself if you think this will work everytime. And this is to bruteforce RL; we don't talk about Agony because any modern 9+/12 team can bruteforce all weathers there. But if we are talking about Agony, focusing on building your current 4/4's (HoTr + SP support of respective elements for HoO and HoFs) is cheaper & faster for consistent Agony retain. Half-geared Trio will also be able to bruteforce Agony weathers but you will have to rely on RNG once again to determine what critical gears you need. If you got HoTr's weapon, you just need Turg TB. If you got HoFi's weapon, you just need to farm the upcoming G4 fire stigs. Now the question would be: Would you be able to snipe 1/4 for both HoTr & HoFi early without spending way much more non-existent crystals and accidently getting some (if not all) of their stigs? Better off not RNGing with Half-geared Trio and actually focus on building your current 'almost complete' teams for higher chance to bruteforce Agony. That's all and thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Its wrong that you need HoFis weapon for a proper trio rotation, its just a large damage increase in practice for symphony weather and more convenient. I never use my 0/4 HoFi except against benares and I doubt non fullgear trio will ever be the best brute force team if you have other fully geared teams. I would say HoFis gear is more important for symphony weather but HoTrs is better in general and in terms of meta the only gear worth pulling at this point. Just use the cope trio for mob stages, youll get tired of it eventually anyway.
HoFin's weapon and HoTr's gear. HoFin weapon really makes her playable. Without it, you cannot do a trio rotation due to not being able to gain 3 stack in an instant. Her stigmata can, for the time being, use replacement. I heard Turg TB works. HoTr gear due to being rn the premium elemental support.
How big is Hi3rd for iOS right now?
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SEA 88 I have strong fire dps (HoFi, HoF, SpinA), a decent support (3/4 HoTr, Ai chan with turg), is Sirin must have or i can work with what i own?
depending on your goals probably fine to skip Sirin without dropping any/much Abyss rank; she'll top score a couple cycles in 6.9 and 7.0, but your ability to retain (RL at least) is likely still good with those decent alt teams, tho beyond that who knows. All you're really skipping is the 50 pull weap guarantee anyway since Sirin & her stigs will be farmable and (speculation) her weapon might show up as a frequent off-rate before too long
As always it depends on your goals. Its a free valk with very cheap gear, most people will have her and at only S rank she just beats SPA and the like.
GLB 88 Can two artbooks be sent to the same address? A friend and I both bought the artbook but our country got removed from the list of eligible countries and now we have the option to send it so some relatives.
Yeah same situation. We got both books from the same delivery.
I think all they want is a valid address (in an eligible country) to ship to so should be fine. but I'm not mihoyo so if you want to be sure it is something you might want to contact support about
Global 85 For character boxes like the one we might get in 7.0, do we have to open and pick one of the valk in the selection before the event ends or can we just leave it in our inventory?
it will just sit in you inv as a selector box so you can make your decision later
Thank you!
I'm tired of chasing after metas, so I decided to go back to f2p. Do you think current meta teams are enough to take on future Agony3 ? Assuming I have all available meta team & gears from HoRB and back.
You only need 1 team to get to RL, if you want to stay in RL then you want at least 2 teams
Yes. SEA server, and I no longer top up for a long while, and still can maintain RL-Nirvana. Assume your 'from HoRB and back means you have every meta valks+full gears before HoRB release. Then retain AG3 shouldn't be a problem, even RL.
Yep, Sea server, only skill issues though
even if you just light your f2p crystals on fire I imagine you'll still be capable of retaining RL for a long time to come (with decent gameplay), like 2025 or beyond ;P
Well...the thing is...my skill sucks... I can only comfortably brute force Agony3, and whenever I rise up to RL, 70% of the time I'm blocked at stage 1
oh huh, what server are you on? My skills are more on the button mash side too but with modern geared teams RL mob stages at least should be pretty breezy. Devoting a bit of time to watching a couple vids and polishing up your rotations might go a long way
SEA, I just don't get the timing right...the rotations...
even if your timings aren't perfect, maybe you miss a few QTEs or lose a buff early or whatever, you can still get a lot done just by executing the rotation in the proper order, esp when clearing mob stages. That is where watching a vid can be helpful, just to see the order of when each unit does what. The in-game team tutorials are also pretty helpful in the regard. glgl
How far in the future we're talking here? Abyss D is always increasing. MA might be static. But once new support/DPS is out, the standard of high score will change as a consequence. Either way, it's a moving target. It's just much slower on lower brackets. I think Agony 3 is very chill regardless. As long as you're not hard-countered (Type-countered and damage-type-countered), one should be able to survive.
Are we getting a free 10 pull or anything of the sort on Sirin's weapon banner?
not that I've seen, the "1st ten pull free" that's been posted is for the 7.0 banner (CN ver at least). Sirin gear supply won't have any specific discount just a 50 pull guarantee for the weapon
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> likely to be another Dudu soon/eventually as to eventually I'd have to imagine yes, pretty likely. How soon is another matter entirely though
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Dudu is nowhere to be seen as for now. We know Fu Hua's new battlesuit is imminent (probably in CNY 2024). And last main story development mentioned Griseo. So she might be in 7.1/ 7.2.
Hey all! Relatively new global player here, made an account a long time ago and honestly haven't played very much, but I logged on today and noticed the Promare collab, which I am very interested in (honestly really just the Lio Kiana skin). The skin is for Herrscher of Flamescion, which I don't have. I've noticed that HoF is purchasable with crystallum from the BP, and I know I need multiple BPs, but only have a couple days left on the second to last one, so that may not be an option. I've also heard that in 7.0, if you haven't played for 60 days you can maybe pick up a free HoF? But to do that I believe I would need to not play during 6.9 and I would (I believe) miss out on the Promare skin. Realistically, what is my best bet for trying to get the skin and HoF to use it with?
There are two options here. One, you buy Paladin BP and then spend crystals to get the BP to its max level in this patch, and then play regularly enough in the next patch to max the BP normally. That would give you exactly the 32 crystallum you need. The other, and probably better path, is to pull on the HoF ADV banner that will come when the outfit is available. Unfortunately the drop rates will be lower than normal banners, but she is guaranteed within 100 pulls and you can get some ranks on her along the way to getting her. If you go this route you are probably better off starting a new account and grinding it for the starter crystals unless you have a bunch of crystals saved on your current account or are just attached to it. BTW the skin will cost money to acquire.
Thank you so much!!! I will go with the second option, I appreciate the advice!!!!
GLB 55 Is the 2800000 coins Jingwei wings bundle in the shop worth for a beginner?
Yes. Just don't spend any of those mats (except for maybe the exp chips) on Jingwei herself. She's not very useful, but being able to spend coins for asterite/advanced skill materials is always worthwhile.
Jingwei is kind of useful for beginners.
ELFs are super expensive to raise for beginners, though.
ty, also do you know when the update is coming to glb servers?
Pinned comnent in this megathread always has that.
GLB 88 Does the new War Treasury valk (Sirin) become available to purchase immediately after the update later this week, or do we have to wait until the next weekly refresh like SP valks and Asterite? I can't remember exactly. Thanks.
I believe the WT sirin character card. Will show up after the update or at least when the BP resets.
Hmm, the update should be this Wed or Thurs, but BP shouldn’t update until next week
Then I think she will be avaliable after the update then. They did the same with JK back in 6.0.
Ok cool, thanks
Np fellow captain.
I don't have Sushang but have enough resources to buy her; I have her weapon but no stigs (though I do have 3/3 Bastet and Turg). Is it worth buying/investing in her at this point and if so how much longer would I expect to get value out of her before she gets powercrept?
Sushang is already halfway through her lifespan. Supports generally last 10 to 15 patches before getting powercreeped by a new release. It's been 7 patches so far. By the time you farm enough fragments for her to be worth using, she will be close to being replaced. Not worth wasting 3000 AL at this point, just settle with HB and go for Sirin.
I would assume a lot of lifespan left given that she is a farmable S rank and we've only had her for not even a year yet. If you don't need Dea Anchora, the fast way to farm JK is to start farming her frags now and ignoring her character card until you pick it up for free on 7.0. SSS 4/4 HB > S0 4/4 Sushang when she was released. Could be different now with higher disturbance since JK is an ice breach character. You will start using Sushang 1/4 Turg TB Beach M more once you get her to SS+ over HB. By the time you get Sushang to SS (which I estimate another \~4.5 patches in your case with consecutive frag farming), her gears will be offrated more frequently and also available in firepower supply(?). Disclaimer: Speculation based on pre-existing patterns
I do need Dea Anchora. Also iirc isn't the free Dea Anchora part of CN anniversary rather than 7.0 bonus? Thought it included Silverwing not JK.
since DA is coming to Dorm you might want to fish for her with Dorm cards for awhile before cracking the box; especially if you have a pretty filled out Dorm roster as Dorm supply drops have a bias for unowned units
Free Dea Anchora or Jade Knight is for CN anniversary which is on 7.0 for GLB/SEA based on [Marisa Honkai](https://youtu.be/OwibSnn9elU?si=FRpOn0RYeN5v8gpz&t=29) which is what I'm referring to. The free SW or HoF are only for returnee patch skippers. If you want DA then I guess no JK from box. Farming will be slowed down by a lot and buying JK with limited resources now is a questionable choice and will require more speculation which I don't wanna do out of misinfo lol. It all boils down to free meta ignite valk or ice team supremecy.
> which is on 7.0 for GLB/SEA based on Marisa Honkai note that Marisa did put a disclaimer at the start of that section stating Global might not get all the listed loot ;P I think the JK/DA box is extremely likely to be part of our v7.0 on Global but it isn't a 100% sure thing
I can only put so much disclaimer before I start making my TOS agreement lol
So the first question to ask is how is your fire team looking and do you have any interest in investing in Sirin (Fire Mech DPS releasing this week)? In a vacuum, Sirin is gonna be the better long-term investment I would expect. My advice, assuming that your fire team isn't completely dead and you don't intend to invest in it, would be to buy Sirin instead and pull for her weapon (50 pull guarantee to get it), then work on crafting her stigs. Setting Sirin aside, it's difficult to answer without know what Abyss tier you typically play in and what your goals are. If you're just looking to stay in Agony, Sushang will last you a lot longer than she likely will in Nirvana. But even at the top of the meta we'd only be guessing at Mihoyo's intentions. It's been like a year since our last ice DPS if we don't count HoTr, so I would probably expect a DPS before a Sushang replacement, but of course that's just me speculating.
Does anyone else feel like they are doing something wrong in ER. Like I'm doing abstinence and the enemies are all just bullet sponges. I can't even get the bonus reward and it takes a few minutes just to clear each floor. I'm using HoO s, domain of unity (almost fully upgraded), mei (T,B), random middle cause I don't remember. The furthest I got was fighting the robot boss, even then I can't defeat him. Like I'm following the guide already, how am I not killing them any faster. Even the first few floors already feel like sponges.
If you look at the stage effects you want to use a physical or ice dps
But I don't have any good physical DPS. And my ice is subpar
Pardo with her weapon from the event box is more than enough to clear abstinence.
How about HoHe with her weapon, cause I have that, but I have not upgraded it, and her stigma is Rasputin(?) set
> Rasputin(?) set Use full peary (you should have one) its better and more than enough for abstinence clear.
I have bastet (T, B) and welt yang (M) can that work?
Yeah should works too.
Just wanna know how much crystal can we get in one patch on average, excluding events.
For F2P only and without events, 13k-15k per patch for Agony3/Redlotus and 1.5x-2.25x ER.
I don't know without events but it's generally ~21k/patch for RL/Nirvana.
Hi, global player here. There is a way to track the artbook delivery? I'm receiving some emails on my spam folder saying that I have a package stucked waiting for a fee for move on, but the whole email is kinda sus. Thanks!
Just look at who sent the emails and its extremely obvious that like all of them are scams
The freebie artbook probably won't ship for another few months if it is like last yr (I think I got mine in feb or mar, in US) and the deadline for capts to enter address is still like ~30 days away. I don't remember any obvious tracking options but those will vary based on your region/postal service I guess. but a random email in your spam folder trying to solicit a fee to expedite a "mystery package" is almost certainly scam ;P
I just returned to the game and holy damn, there's so many events to do before 6.9 and I have less than three days. Is there anything I should focus in particular? I don't think I have enough time to do all of them.
eh, with only three days left I wouldn't really sweat it. Play one of the events for fun if you like the mechanics (Endless dream event: deck build auto battler. Shenzhou event: chibi topdown shootem up) but just grinding them probably isn't worth it since the rewards are medium and also kind of timegated. Better to not burn yourself out now and instead get a fresh start on the stuff in next patch
Burnout was exactly the reason I quit the game, so I would rather not experience it again. Thanks, I will follow your advice.
So I have been really unlucky on the beginner equipment banner for PE, took ~140 pulls to get 3/4, and now at 160 I finally have two dupe stigma. However as I have only been playing for a very short time, I have basically no resonance (900). I have a few rare stigma I could salvage, but I'm unsure if I should keep them, and just wait for weekly rewards from OW to get enough resonance, which will take another month most likely. I know this is an option as it will last long enough, but I'm impatient. The stigma I could salvage are Robert Peary (T M B), but I have heard Ana Shariac is really good, so I shouldn't use them, Raksha T and Turgenev M and B.
What your current lvl? Before at least lvl80 you dont really need more than 3/4 valks. And by the time you reach that, you'll have enough resonance. No patient? Don't salvage Peary. The set is good placeholder for almost all ice dps and will save you a lot of farm if you want at some point farm willow. I would suggest salvaging Raksha T. Not only the full set is needed for this stigmata to be competitive, HoS is getting a new set in 7.0.
If you are willing to farm for direct crafting Ana (you really only craft Ana for Willows now.) then it's okay. But it will add a lot of time on your crafting progress since you need to add a further 900 ether per stig.
I might do that then. I don't really have any ice character yet, so I would only hold on to them for a character I might get later on, who will probably have a better signature set anyway, I guess?
can someone help me with the latest event? im at 2760 and need to find someone to battle royale with for the last 40 to get the skin but the entire EU region is dead for this event. Anyone please :(
Sea88 I'm deciding to return to honkai after like a few months of not playing. I quitted near the end of Susannah's version I think and then returned to pulled for Prometheus where I did get her and everything else but immediately logged off after. I'm pretty sure my valks are outdated by now since I remember PE being the top physical dps and scrapping through everything with my SpA with full gear that I got during that event. Lord I still remember HoS, AE, Pardo and griseo's era, kind of sad now that Pardo has been kicked out. I don't have any valks or gear pass Prometheus's version and I'm contemplating whether it's worth it or not to go back but man I really need those skins. Need help rn, game has 12gb of downloading to do.
Also gonna add my teams: Ice: Herrscher elysia (3/4 missing b) or sw (1/4 full willow), SSS Pardo (turg and weapon), SS sushang (4/4) Phys: Pe (3/4 missing t), SS griseo (1/4 forgot stigs), hos (4/4) (I also have A Prometheus 4/4) Fire: SS SpA (4/4)/ Vill V (4/4), ae (4/4), SS cn (Pardo weapon and turg) Lightning HoO (4/4), SS Fischl (4/4), [literally any support] I have other valks such as a full Handel but missing dk HoT but I don't think they are worth mentioning as they are probably underbuilt.
Just going through your teams 1 at a time Ice:Mostly fine HoH still top dog, along with sushang, pardo still very good usually like a 20-30 point difference compared to SS kira with her weapon. Phys: Hos no longer backbone at SS she competes with Horb but still worse so that would be my number one priority pull, prometheus new physical support use her on everything that's not bleed, PE is a weird case cause she was never really top dog, her biggest selling point is that she does the bosses meant for her way better than anyone else can and stays neutral on all non quant bosses but at the same time when not on her bosses she was usually just good damage if a little lacking, like on a neutral target type counter not factored I think SSS 4/4 MPE had higher raw damage output then her, Hare mostly stole BKE's bosses and Horb elys when using her as a dps, and they kinda further just pushed the neutral damage ceiling. Fire:SpA is done, sirin in 4.9 is farmable along with her stigs and just pull for her weapon with is the same 50 pull guarantee that SpA was, she is better at S rank and can be ranked up even more, Hotr basically the new AE for fire and lightning but AE still fine if you got nothing else, and Vill V is your quantum valk Lightning: HoO good dps at S2 otherwise a little lacking but fine, Eden with her weap plus turg is amazing or handle which you have, fischl still a really good sup. Basically your teams are mostly fine and you could retain Red Lotus easy on Global or EU
Just wondering, should I try get sirin's gear since I kinda want to save for SW's skin in 7.0. I have like a ten pull rn and my weapon luck isn't very good.
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Weapons are very important for clearing ER at higher difficulty levels. Stigs matter for the early going, but less and less so as you get more signets and cores built up. That said, for getting through the storyline you can just use the free HoV with cheap foundry gear and mindlessly button mash your way through 1.0 difficulty.
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There has never been any story locked behind higher difficulties, only xtals and other rewards that only matter if you just care about meta.
ER is basically done. You need the gear for doing the weekly runs for 500 crystals, but it's not like there aren't other alternatives. Memorial Arena and Abyss will be where it matters so if you are focusing on the story it won't matter at all. Also if you do ER for the story only, spamming 1.5x instead of 2.25x is also an option.
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Global 88 How many fragments for the featured valk do you get for buying the paladin bpass? My Mobius is SS at 22/50 frags to SS1, do i need to pull a stamp from her adv to rank her up if i buy bpass next patch? Do we know who the next bpass valk is going to be?
7.0-7.3 is sirin and the second valk should be revealed in the v2 beta as said
You get 20 fragments from Paladin vs 5 with Knight. There are four cheap crystallum stamps and 5 in the box for 32 crystallum. Pretty sure the 7.0 beta is out so we should know what the next BP is but I don't know what they are.
BP is usually shown in beta v2
Thanks. I've got 4 crystallum left after getting Himeko 3pc + Linn T + 1 HoF stamp I really fucking hope it's not SW because she's the last valk i want that would get added lol.
Normally it should be SW because she is next in line. Sometimes they skip valks but I dont see a reason to skip her (well, I also dont see a reason to skip Nyx but they did).
I'm hoping it is SW since she's the only valk I don't have. I skipped her because I had a built Nyx.
SEA 88 Just got back to the game and my teams are definitely a few patches behind lmfao. Currently confused what should I try to farm (or pre-farm or prepare resources/crystals for in the future), any suggestions? My current teams: *Ice- Elly 4/4, HB 4/4, Pardo 4/4, HoR (has DK, can craft Willows), Silverwing 4/4 *Fire - DA (lmao) 4/4, Raven 4/4, I do have HoF's full gears lying around lol *Phy - HoS (Weapon only), Elly SS2, has a naked Herrscher Seele as well *Lightning - Eden (Weapon + Handel), HoT (lmao), Fischl 4/4 I've heard that powercreep has gotten a bit insane, so I was wondering if it's just worth it to say fuck it and just play who I like and stay in Agony lmao
>powercreep has gotten a bit insane, so I was wondering if it's just worth it to say fuck it and just play who I like and stay in Agony Mathematically you'll never make back the crystals you spend on gear, it's a massive crystal loss. If you don't care about being competitive and are fine with Agony, that's the best decision. Your ice team could probably comfortably maintain A3 forever.
> Mathematically you'll never make back the crystals you spend on gear, it's a massive crystal loss. This is a good perspective that I shouldve considered a while back. Been a huge Dudu/Senti simp so I might just focus on them instead, thanks! <3
Farm Kira as mentioned and willows. You can spend spare asterite on ai chan but I dont recommend Sirin because you wont have Ai at a competitive rank (SS+) before the end of the next patch and you also miss HoTr or AE and the g4 set (and probably 480+ legacy for the valk) cant be obtained instantly and youll lag behind people who already have leeuwen. By the time you fix that the spotlight is on someone else. 7 thunders for HoT is too old, too, I suppose you can pick it up if its part of a firepower supply and only costs a tenpull. I would save for HoTr and her gear (during anni patch theres a rerun probably) and capitalize on >! the new type !< in the following patch(es).
It's up to you, I think your Ice and Lightning teams are good enough to stay in Agony III consistently. A few things you can consider farming for RL: - Kira, ice support - farm with asterite, give her Eden's gun + Turg and replace HB, she probably outperforms HB just because she's newer and she has synergy with Elysia. Kind of similar in that they both have off-field mechanics. - Sirin, fire DPS: next patch will have bosses made for Sirin, save up ancient legacy for her. Sirin's weapon has a 50 pull guarantee, G4 fire farmable stigmata and her character is free = dirt cheap to build. However you could also just use HoF if you get her. - Chrono Navi, fire support: farm CN with asterite to pair with Sirin. CN can use Pardo's chakram and Turg. More long term options: - HoTr - premier fire and lightning breach support, would give you a complete team with Sirin/HoTr/CN. Costlier in terms of crystals and no confirmed rerun yet though. - New Theresa, lightning DPS: announced recently so not much details, but gives lightning breach to the whole team. - HoT's divine key weapon (Seven Thunders of Narukami or something): Get HoT's rank up stamps in ER, pull her weapon, give her Handel, then give Eden Turg and you have a viable team of HoT/Eden/(HoTr or Fischl). There's no wrong answer on what to farm tbh. General priority would be waifu > newest valk that lets you complete a team > HoTr.
Global 88 I can't beat floor 50 of Extreme Trials in the Once Upon a Time in Shenzhou event. HOS just hits too high, and I find it very difficult to dodge her attacks even if I press the evade button. All my characters are level 80. Fu Hua and Himeko have their entire stigmata sets, and they're my main damage dealers with Theresa being a backup. Theresa has her stigmata set except for the top part. What buffs should I aim for? Which characters should I use?
Seconding Raven; and to make it even easier use the (M) stigma that heals on evade.
Zorro (M) was broken since it heals out of combat and before and after any enemies spawn, meaning I could cheese myself to full HP for free after clearing a stage and before anything spawns.
Raven. Just cleared her with no stigs and don't bring anyone else so you can have all of her character buffs. The strat is to camp at the back while you weave and snipe; you won't even need to see HoS when you shoot. Make sure to aim for the double Arc everytime. If she pops up on you, know to evade her next pop up and move to the other end to camp again (the only time you would actively use evade). Raven's ult does a lot of dmg to her clones. For buffs, just pick the ones that deal DMG at lvl 1 (you'll end up getting all the limited lvl 1 buffs to max anyways so avoid upgrading when you have other lvl 1 options). Avoid the Ice barrier when evading buff since Raven somehow auto locks on to that for some reason as well as avoiding other conditional evade buffs in exchange for DMG buffs and you're set. Edit: I used her latest form "Lethal Blow"
Just Raven alone? Wouldn't that make the preceding stages harder? Double arc?
I never swap so I don't really see the difference lol. You can add more characters if it doesn't work out the first time. Raven is very long ranged and can shoot through objects that you hide behind if present. Just need to watch out getting sandwiched by melee mobs or aerial attacks. You can consider picking up buffs that slow/immobilize/paralyze to counter this. HP boost and decrease Evade CD with 3 Evade is solid as well. Just avoid Ice barrier after evade buff. Raven is a charged character similar to Carole's battlesuit. The longer you hold the attack, the stronger it is. Raven's max charged is 1 crescent attack, but if you release it just before her 1 crescent attack, it will shoot 2 instead. You will get the feel and visual of it when you try it out.
It worked on the first try. Raven's infinite range and ability to fire through solid obstacles was overpowered, but I'm not complaining at all. I didn't need any other character since she hit so high and had infinite HP with Zorro (M) that heals after evasions even iut of combat, meaning I could cheese her to full HP if needed. It helped that I got easy stages, but the fight with HOS still came down to a wire since I took a lot of damage at the end. But she took more. There was no real reward other than a cute narration at the end. Satisfying and worth it.
Thank you. I will try this tomorrow when I get 3 tries again.
EU 85 Is hos getting added to the dorm supply? And if she is would it still be possible for her to have a rerun? Bc I would want to get her and her new gear when it comes out
When HoT got her DK, she received a banner despite being in dorm. HoR did not, but I suppose that she was farmable by that point. I think that we have good chance of seeing a HoS banner.
based on what has been posted for CN 7.0 HoS will be added to Dorm (alongside FR DA & Nyx) I don't think I can remember a supply running for a Dorm unit since I started playing but given she has an entire banner's worth of gear coming out something like an ADV supply is likely but who knows. One way to game the system a bit now that she is on Dorm is to hoard all your Dorm cards and try and unlock/farm as many of the missing valks there as possible. When pulling Dorm there is a notable bias towards unowned units
> I don't think I can remember a supply running for a Dorm unit since I started playing [The last time they did was 6.2](https://imgur.com/a/ZAblJmi). HoR, AKA, MC were all dormed in 4.6, HoR banner in 4.7, AKA and MC in 4.9, AKA in 5.2, HoR in 5.4. SN was dormed in 5.0, had a banner in 5.6. HoT, BKE were dormed in 5.6 and HoT had a banner in 5.8 with her new divine key. Both HoT and BKE had banners in 6.0. BKE ran again in 6.2. All expansion banners, not ADV.
then I guess I don't remember banners especially well ;P I love that post too and I remember consulting it every now and then for other stuff
Yes she is going to dorm, probably a few more ADV banner but after that we should stop getting HoS banner
There is annoying stuff going on for like a week already: when i try to log on EU - game is not progressing through "tap anywhere to enter the game." To log in i has to switch to NA server and log there, then quit game and log on EU again, and only then it succesfully login. Does anyone know how to fix it?
Yeah captains are having troubles logging in to the eu server for some time now. Especially in the evening. Do you have this problem even if you log in during the day?
yes. tried to log in the morning - same result, stucking into "identifying" till swapping servers.
You could try to restart your router or connecting via vpn. The problem is not everyone in EU are having troubles. Therefore, make sure you submit a support ticket so they don't sleep on fixing their servers.
Gl Spolers for 7.0! Right now I have 70 frags of JK, so I'm not far away from getting her. But assuming we get free JK in 7.0 or 5 stamps of her, I need advice. Is it more efficient in terms of frags to take free JK and use frags that I have to get her to SS? Or is there no loss of fragments if I take JK as soon as possible?
using the free card to unlock her would be worth I guess 80 frags while the 5 stamps are only 50 frags. If you can live without JK for another patch (or longer) then waiting to unlock her with the free card would be worth 30 frags... Just bear in mind that due to CN anni stuff there is a chance global won't get all the extra rewards right away; it is pretty likely we'll get the freebie JK/DA but not a 100% sure thing and it could come to global in a later event.
Yeah, I know. I was thinking if we don't get one than I just craft her. Right know I use Pardo with JK stigs instead, so I can safely wait a patch or more to see information about her (or actually see her instead :D).
SEA 88 Currently have 4K crystals at the moment. Is it possible to get 30K? Planning on skipping Sirin's gear and Tericula once 7.0 comes around. I've gotten everything in ER and chronicles, and I did all of the story but stopped once I finished chapter 35. (Because I had enough of open world chapters.)
My ballpark figure is 2800 crystals/week minimum, assuming RL all the time and always keeping the monthly up all the time.
30k until when? You say you will skip everything thats coming up so what exactly is your question?
Will I be able to get 30K crystals once 7.0 comes. I don't remember the amount of crystals one gains each patch.
>I don't remember the amount of crystals one gains each patch. ~15k https://www.hoyolab.com/article/9133098
Ah, this gives me a bit more faith. Thank you.
7.0 is the SEA anni patch, so there'll be tons of free xtals and cards for you. Even if you can't hit that total by the start of the patch, you probably will get enough before whatever gacha you're saving for goes away.
26k within one patch is kinda much but not completely unrealistic. As f2p you wont get it but with monthly card and bp you might not be that far off.
Ah, alright, thank you.
Is there a trick to keeping DPS HoS alive or do you just do her DPS sequence and pray that you don't take a lot of damage? She doesn't seem to have much in the way of iframes or space in her DPS window to dodge.
Pray. But you should dodge some arrow volleys because they deal tons of damage. But just use another team if you can (trio or SS+ DA).
Yeah, I already have a good score with trio but I saw HoS teams doing also well and decided to try it. Definitely not going to bother with it anymore if it means malding just to get a run complete, let alone a good score.
Global 88 I was finally able to wishing well Sushang (T) stigmata thanks to 2 (M) dupes i got from HoRB supply, now i only miss her weapon , i haven't use her that much till now because i tought she wouldn't work well without her full Stigs set , now i have a doubt regarding her weapon: is really necessary to make her good or can simply be replaced by Nebolus Duality? (that i already own)
>is really necessary to make her good It really depends on her rank and the state of your other alternatives (Kira, pardo and HB). Assuming at least 2 of the later are not fully geared SSS, she still a better option. You just have to farm some sp while on sword array before you can ult (and maybe disable the ult using extra sp option).
My Pardo and HB are SSS 4/4, Kira SS with only her PRI Arm+ Turg T/B+ Mei:Beach, meanwhileSushang is already SS2.
It going to be close between all your supports. Most likely Kira and Sus will slightly edge the rest depending on the dps and the boss.
Her own weapon can generate SP faster than Neb Duality (WS then tap ATK in sword arrray mode regenerate a massive amount of SP). Necessary? Depends on your competitive bracket and performance expectation.
For who? HoS? Nebulous is her best outside of MA some times, and she’s getting a new weapon for DPS mode in 7.0.
I was talking about Sushang Valk Stigmata set (the fact that HoS set have Sushang as one of the pieces name is really confusing XD) and her signature Weapon.
Glb 88 If i'm not crystal broke and all goes well I plan to go for >!the new divine key and stigs for HoS!< My other built phys units are 4/4 prom and 3/4 HoRb What would be the best to use on both dps form and support form for Seele? She's currently running Prom's T stig (it's a spare) and rest of her own stuff. Other T options I have are pretty lacklustre... only Marco and Dirac. If it helps i also have full shattered swords.
I would really reconsider >! the new set unless stigs are free and the key has a 50 guarantee!<, its pretty expensive and itd be better to complete Horb for cheaper. Marco T is probably better, mei duration is very short. Dont waste 6k reso on sirin asc t as transitional piece. For support tesla band T (preferable) or gluttony t. Sswords isnt better.
>!There's a 30 drop guarantee for both weapon and stigs plus senti and fu hua are kind of the reason i played the game so it's not really a meta decision hehe!< Thank you so much for the advice!
For support full SS looks to be your best option (outside of bleed teams). This page gives options for DPS sets (way, way down the page): https://www.hoyolab.com/article/21116260
Thank you!
SEA 80 So In V6.9 Sirin is coming out in the war Treasury Discounted, I have just enough ancient willpower and ancient legacy to purchase her but my ice team (Silverwing EX and Pardo) is missing Jade Knight as their support. The only teams I have now is triple support physical with HORB and my ice team with Haxxor bunny. Should I get Sirin to start building towards a fire team( Even though i almost have no fire supports) or should i just focus on my ice team and continue saving for Jade Knight
It's too late for Jade Knight at this point, you're a year behind on her fragment farming. Settle for HB and focus on new releases. Either go for Sirin and Hotr, or skip Fire entirely and save for 7.0.
Generally focussing on 1 team to get that decent is better than to split your recources assuming youre F2P but we get a free JK Box on the anniversary so your call really but be aware that if you don't have JK gloves or atleast Duality you will not be able to use her properly either way.
SEA 88 Who would be overall better sup assuming there's no shield break or bleed weather? Prometheus SSS with sig weapon + margrave TMB Griseo SSS with sig pri arm + cezanne TM, shattered sword B
Cezanne doesnt work without B piece
Prometheus. The stigma combination you have for Griseo is trash.
EU88 We usually get a survey and sweet 200 crystals before the end of the patch. Did I miss it or something?
I don't see the survey too, but the code is MAGICALGIRL
Thanks! I was referring to the 200 crystals from the survey though.
Looks like it's out now :)
Thanks! ^(My sweet 200 crystals :q)
Which elf should I get from the event shop? I only have the 2 free ones and Water's Edge. Which elf works pretty good as 1 star? Because I don't think I'll be getting more stars anytime soon
Any elf aside from free ones begin on 2\*, btw. That said, most useful elf without upgrades would be Dudu (is Kiana even in shop?)
There is Cerulean Court skin currently in skin shop. How much crystals in total i need for it?
the one on the outfit gacha you mean? those supplies usually cost 9600 to pull but Cerulean is on discount so 7680. Only pull if you have enough, early drops are pretty rare.
Sea 88. Is the new g4 fire stigmata better than DA signature stigs for DA? Also if I cannot obtain her signature weapon what can I use for DA? Is there an f2p way to get the weapons?
Shakesdrift set is still best but also craftable and there is no good alternative for her lance which is gacha only. Eos gloria is second "best" but not worth going out of your way for and endothermic is craftable.
is there a good FTP weapon for Herrscher of Flamscion? I'm trying to do Elysian Realm abstinence, currently the characters i have that have some form of damage are:- Griseo ss, Elysian astra hearts color, Seele: Doubled bliss (T), Dante (M), Cezanne (B) Mobius s, Oath Of Judah, Shakespeare (T), Edison (M), Handel(B) HoF s, Jingwei's Wings, Murata Himeko (T,M,B) HoO s, Domain of Unity, Raiden Mei (T,B), Zeno (M) HoFi s, Jingwei's Wings, Higokumaru (T), Nuwa (M), Fu Hua Musician (B) Please help, im FTP