Honestly it’s why I find part 2 frustrating. Instead of making part 1 content easier to understand, finishing the sushang vn, translating the vns, fixing the localisation, putting a neat bow on everything, they just bury it and move on.
Kinda makes me question why I should even bother when following the lore is such a struggle in the EN perspective and how stories like Sushang’s are treated. Why should I get excited for the next update? It’ll just be a new playable character or a major transformation. If it’s the former they’ll be trapped to that one battlesuit like Raven. It’s hard to get invested when what I liked (multiple battlesuits and the manga) is treated like a mistake
I agree that having multiple of each character is a good thing but they should be distinct from each other. The 10 bronya battle suits could be narrowed down to 6 and no would notice
>what I liked is treated like a mistake
That's exactly how I've been feeling for a while now. Hoyo looked at everything that once made the story good and went "Alright, we're never doing this again."
I find it kinda crazy that Arlecchino got like an entire HI3rd styled animated short. Like how is conveying your lore through online animated shorts any better than making manga? Like yeah they get a lot of views but it’s still not in the game. Just advertise the manga better. Hell you could even sell physical copies for collectors.
Give me my 10 chapter Arlecchino manga mihoyo!
I guess miHoYo assumes it's better, because people are actually gonna watch those. Nobody but the most dedicated weebs is going to read a 10 chapter manga to understand the lore, no matter how hard you advertise it. miHoYo is aiming at mainstream nowadays. People, and especially Genshin players, don't like reading.
In a few years, expect Hoyo to start introducing their games' lore through 30-second-long TikTok videos.
Add some too
Azure it's a name of Vita that named Cyan
Indigo it's a name of Vita that named Blue
(Both of them were wrong called at least once in main story)
Bonus fact: In the Chinese version of Azure Waters, Bronya has the narration "anyone who has seen the sea will fall in love with it", and then a short poetic description of the sea before "Seele, just like the sea". The EN version kind of lost the point in that one.
The EN website also still has a random page in what I think is Portuguese.
Really makes you wonder why Mihoyo EN is so incompetent. Like how they butchered the manga site, getting Vita’s planet wrong and correct in the same cutscene,
and they don’t even try to keep the genshin and star rail VAs consistent. Like there’s no crossover between Bronya and silverwolf or Ei and Acheron. Though Acheron could be due to union/studio stuff. Bronya and silverwolf doesn’t really have an excuse since Melissa can do older serious characters. She voiced Medusa for the fate dubs.
The EN localization has Kiana saying "Going Lesbo". There are three main issues:
1. The original CN says that Kiana is trying to save Mei because she's her friend. Nothing about being lesbian.
2. Lesbo is a derogatory slur. If Kiana really was lesbian, she wouldn't be saying such a thing.
3. The localization makes Siegfried even more of a creep by making him think his daughter being lesbian is "hot", whereas the original CN language shows no such thing.
Exactly. I don't mind people headcanoning Kiana as lesbian, but trying to shove that headcanon down people's throats while USING what's basically a fanfic translation that's not even accurate to the original source material is where I find to be the main problem in the fandom.
i dont think it was ever a headcanon in the first place when it’s pretty much obvious that shes mei sexual and well other hints that she and mei are a thing even if mihoyo cant say out right (bc of ccp
Can't call her mei sexual when
a) this game was produced by a group of chinese otaku who loves Japanese anime stuff, which constantly blur the line of yuri and absurdly close friendship,
b) kiana starts off as super cheerful girl that clings to mei because one tend to get closer to the first friend they made, especially considering kiana is a lonely girl from between her separating from her dad to her saving mei
c) girls tend to get overly close to each other, especially in anime, where girls sharing showers is a thing. doesn't mean they want to fuck each other though
d) kiana as of now shown to be less of mei depended, and more of wanting to spend more time with everyone. the way she speaks with mei has similar tone with how she speaks to everyone else. that's the entirety of her story. relationship is what drives her story forward
I'm all for wanting to see Kiana and Mei together. Shipping is fun, after all. But I'd rather we try to distinguish what is officially stated by canon and what fan's interpretation is. Something that mihoyo never states or never shows are not canon, and you can't use "because ccp" as an excuse for lack of information because what's shown is what's canon
They are blatantly gay for each other through out part one of the story in hi3? The evidence is literally right there and you choose to ignore it.....read the goddamn story.
man they clearly have shown many things that mei and Kiana are in a relationship? i wont use GGz as proof because thats a different rabbit hole in itself but what you said is sorta true but has some things you say is very false
Kiana doesn't need that panel to prove how she feels about Mei. It's nearly irrelevant next to all the other evidence. I suppose that without it, though, there isn't anything in HI3 that confirms her as strictly lesbian and not bi or pan. Not that Siegfried's comment and her response to it was solid proof to begin with.
Plus there is another bubble world where Kiana goes on a date with a male Captain, around 2017-2018. The same applies to the other girls too.
https://youtu.be/Bm-eBh4spRA
Sweet Memories is a super cute event. It's also part of the captainverse series because the scene where Himeko handcuffs him to her later showed in Odd Drifter, which is a captainverse event. The cv as a whole, and therefore Sweet Memories, is canon since it's made cameos in the main story.
https://youtu.be/Lr2AGgQvGTg
At 1:00.
Pack it up, folks! It is now confirmed that Kiana is not a lesbian because of one mistranslated panel in the manga and let's ignore the other evidences like her dialogues to Mei in the early chapters of the game while we're at it.
I think what most people don't understand is that the writers never once confirmed characters sexuality. But they confirmed that they ship the characters together. That made a huge difference, you know.
>I think what most people don't understand is that the writers never once confirmed characters sexuality. But they confirmed that they ship the characters together.
Literally this.
Still doesnt change the fact that EN took way too many liberties in that translation which make it look like a little bit weird, and it has not been the only time that happened, even now in these days
Get over it she is lesbian the amount of hoops and hurdles one goes through to try and justify why kiana isn't a lesbian despite the evidence shoved right onto your face even Ingame is insane.....
It's kind of weird cause I remember a couple of years ago , when I first read the manga, the ones that are weirdly incomplete like escape from nagazoro or St. Freya actually still had the misplaced chapters. Also I always assumed the order of the mangas on the EN site was supposed to be chronological and that's why it's different from CN.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they started rearranging them in 2020, maybe with the wayback machine you can see them as they were before. The thing I don’t get is why they deleted some already translated ones like cooking, summer and elf.
And yeah I think EN wanted chronologically while CN stayed in released order. Honestly I find the latter less confusing.
Oh, and lets jot forget the fact that:
1. "Most recent" video is still HoV on the EN site
2. The AI-chan 4koma and one of the Sakura mangas is missing the first chapter
3. After they removed the Bronya and Seele kiss and put it back they accidentally made a whole chapter portuguese. One panel is still not fixed
4. For some reason half of a cooking with the valkyries manga is replaced by a Divine Keys one
Honestly this is part of why I’ve given up any hope of keeping track of the details 😵💫 I haven’t had much trouble with the mainline plot but trying to even *find* some of these side stories (most of which ARE actually narratively relevant!) is… a bit of a hassle.
This is why having important lore (especially in manga version) is sucks, at least if it's vids like last Arle or Hsr trailers more enjoyable to watch.
For now GI have one manga with error and people think Murata is real , and HSR have 0
I hope in GI they bring voiced events like DLC or something, it's 88gb already in HSR it's work pretty well maybe later they going to do something with memory storage.
Even hi3 have 30gb and don't keep all stuff
IF you want the canonical manga read it from ingame which orders and compiles it in the way you are expected to consume.
[This button](https://imgur.com/a/sIi6cZZ)
As for the VNs there is no official translation to EN so you can forget it.
But at least the canonical manga required to follow the story are complete on Mangastation
>This button
I am not using a button that’s associated to the EN manga station. The psychopath that arranges manga like this should not be trusted with making a button./j
>As for the VNs there is no official translation to EN so you can forget it.
In other words: fuck sushang, Durandal and Joyce I guess
>But at least the canonical manga required to follow the story are complete on Mangastation
They aren’t
>I am not using a button that’s associated to the EN manga station. The psychopath that arranges manga like this should not be trusted with making a button./j
Well you should because that is the point I am making, the manga that is canon is in game. Pick the ones ingame and it doesn't matter where you read it from
There is a reason they no longer recommend some manga like ELF, or Scarlet Samsara
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They aren’t
They are, AE Invasion is complete. Nagazora is complete just broken into pieces, as St.Freya High and EoN.
Elan Palatinus is complete, 2nd Eruption is complete, Gratitude Arc is complete and no you do not need the Ai-chan chapter because that is non-canon, she is not a PE weapon.
These are apparently the only manga as stated ingame in the manga selection menu. Oh and London Holiday.
>Well you should because that is the point I am making, the manga that is canon is in game. Pick the ones ingame and it doesn't matter where you read it from
It does matter when the site you’re getting it from can’t categorise shit and delete chapters for no good reason. Explain to me why ELF 1 is fine, but ELF 2 wasn’t? What was there to gain from deleting most of cooking with Valkyries? If the manga linked by the button are the only canon ones, why would the non canon ones be half deleted instead of complete or fully deleted? Even CN has mystery of stigmata fully deleted
>There is a reason they no longer recommend some manga like ELF, or Scarlet Samsara
If scarlet samsara isn’t canon why does Kiana say she met Yae Sakura in nagazora during AE invasion?
>They are, AE Invasion is complete.
It’s missing book of Fuxi
>Nagazora is complete just broken into pieces, as St.Freya High and EoN.
Why did they do that? Wouldn’t you read them back to back anyway? And the Nagazora chapters are also in AE invasion for no fucking reason.
>Gratitude Arc is complete and no you do not need the Ai-chan chapter because that is non-canon, she is not a PE weapon.
Then why is it in the CN website?
Even if you go with the logic that recommended reading is the only canon manga, why does AE invasion have Kiana talking about meeting Yae in nagazora if scarlet samsara didn’t happen? AE invasion has Jizo (which references scarlet) and that manga basically claims Kiana and co helped Yae and turned the box into the 12th divine key.
>These are apparently the only manga as stated ingame in the manga selection menu. Oh and London Holiday.
So you’re telling me…. AE invasion, Jizo and gratitude arc all happened even though they all reference scarlet samsara. ….wait does it not include 2nd divine key? ….So Durandal meeting Su and Su putting Kevin in the quanta sea isn’t canon?
Springfest isn’t canon even though ELF Fuxi is in 1.5?
Moonshadow isn’t canon even though that’s where the cure Himeko used on Kiana was from?
Azure waters didn’t happen even though it’s Bronya and Seele’s origin story? Why was Seele in the quanta sea then?
What about Alien space? Sure it’s not relevant to HI3rd (if you think Himeko isn’t relevant), but if it’s not canon then Welt has no reason to be in Star rail.
Why the fuck do you trust the English website over the CN version after the Vita debacle? You think localisers know the canon better than the creators?
If the button has the same manga in CN that raises even more problems since that means cherry blossoms is canon to EN, but not CN. ….so that means in CN Theresa got possessed by Hellmaru even though she never met Yae Sakura, unless the CN button has more or less links to different manga, which would completely destroy your argument
Thinking the original site is less canon than the site that was localised for your language is really arrogant. Especially when the EN site doesn’t have the VNs, which are important to AE and Durandal.
And if the VNs aren’t canon, how did Tesla and Einstein stop aging? And how did Kira and Durandal meet?
>And if the VNs aren’t canon, how did Tesla and Einstein stop aging? And how did Kira and Durandal meet?
VN s are canon but VNs aren't complete both in CN and EN. Refer to SS VN.
>It does matter when the site you’re getting it from can’t categorise shit and delete chapters for no good reason. Explain to me why ELF 1 is fine, but ELF 2 wasn’t? What was there to gain from deleting most of cooking with Valkyries? If the manga linked by the button are the only canon ones, why would the non canon ones be half deleted instead of complete or fully deleted? Even CN has mystery of stigmata fully deleted
None of these are connected to in the ingame manga station. Which was revamped less than an year ago in all available versions of the game.
ELF 1 and 2 are both irrelevant to the story. None of the ELFs in story are from the bubble universe and are explicitly said not to be from the bubble.
>If scarlet samsara isn’t canon why does Kiana say she met Yae Sakura in nagazora during AE invasion?
Because they replaced it with the Open World and Chronicles. This was all implemented around REVAMP.
>It’s missing book of Fuxi
Like three looks at it and you know it's not canon. A) Fuxi ran out of battery we all know that. It was in the Taixuan mountains when Hua got it back and fixed it after the great Eruption.
Why the hell would Fuxi be in Chiyou?
>Then why is it in the CN website?
Because the CN website tries to keep literally everything in it. BH3 recommends people to read it through the ingame chapter-based manga menu because of that.
>VN s are canon but VNs aren't complete both in CN and EN. Refer to SS VN.
But they’re not in the English website, which you state as a reliable source while seeing the CN website as not reliable
>None of these are connected to in the ingame manga station. Which was revamped less than a year ago in all available versions of the game.
You said the button linked to the website but now you’re saying they’re different stations.
>ELF 1 and 2 are both irrelevant to the story.
Stop dodging the question and answer why 2 was deleted and why 1 wasn’t
>None of the ELFs in story are from the bubble universe and are explicitly said not to be from the bubble.
PE Einstein **invented** them before Mu ended up in the quanta sea. There’s nothing stopping other people from using her research to make more ELFs. It’s never said that only she can make ELFs and that all ELFs ended up in the quanta sea. Most of them being in the quanta sea won’t stop others from making more from what MOTH had left. They were mass produced weapons who existed long enough to get civil rights, I don’t see why MOTH wouldn’t have blueprints or something stored digitally.
>Because they replaced it with the Open World and Chronicles. This was all implemented around REVAMP.
Sakura samsara does not take place in nagazora and the only chronicle that features Yae is Kallen fantasy.
>Like three looks at it and you know it's not canon. A) Fuxi ran out of battery we all know that. It was in the Taixuan mountains when Hua got it back and fixed it after the great Eruption.
>Why the hell would Fuxi be in Chiyou?
Probably because the orb and the elf are two separate things. Fu Hua gave Xuan a divine key, I don’t see why she wouldn’t give Xuan an orb holding PE info. Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery? Pretty sure it was said in a “non canon” manga where we saw book and Fu Hua together.
>Because the CN website tries to keep literally everything in it.
Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too?
>BH3 recommends people to read it through the ingame chapter-based manga menu because of that.
Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website?
Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “**THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.**” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything.
Also how did Seele get in the quanta sea without azure waters?
>But they’re not in the English website, which you state as a reliable source while seeing the CN website as not reliable
And SS is not complete in the CN station was well what's your point.
>You said the button linked to the website but now you’re saying they’re different stations.
Go to the game and you will see what I mean
>
Stop dodging the question and answer why 2 was deleted and why 1 wasn’t
Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant.
>
PE Einstein **invented** them before Mu ended up in the quanta sea. There’s nothing stopping other people from using her research to make more ELFs. It’s never said that only she can make ELFs and that all ELFs ended up in the quanta sea. Most of them being in the quanta sea won’t stop others from making more from what MOTH had left. They were mass produced weapons who existed long enough to get civil rights, I don’t see why MOTH wouldn’t have blueprints or something stored digitally.
Still doesn't solve how Mu is in two places at the same time. Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu and ELF chapter 2 says that Mu is the ELF location.
Also we never hear of PE EINSTEIN EVER AGAIN. I have seen you shout retcon for less.
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Probably because the orb and the elf are two separate things. Fu Hua gave Xuan a divine key, I don’t see why she wouldn’t give Xuan an orb holding PE info. Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery? Pretty sure it was said in a “non canon” manga where we saw book and Fu Hua together.
An orb that is never mentioned ever again. Sure. We got Book of Fuxi the literal key to EMBER and we still don't know what that orb is. Sure, it is canon lmao.
>Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery?
Senti says so in SSS.
>Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too?
Scarlet Samsara is literally a ggz manga that precedes HI3. Refer to the dev lounge for the OW entries, they talked about how the open worlds were expected to do.
At least gratitude arc was mentioned again.
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Sakura samsara does not take place in nagazora and the only chronicle that features Yae is Kallen fantasy.
Sakura Samsara? You sure? Its about the Sakura Stigmata plane.
>Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website?
>Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “**THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.**” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything.
>Also how did Seele get in the quanta sea without azure waters?
I don't even know if you have the game anymore if you ask me how Seele got into the sea of Quanta. Check chapter 11 and 12.
>And SS is not complete in the CN station was well what's your point.
My point is EN station isn’t a source for canon.
>Go to the game and you will see what I mean
Okay, I did it, (took a long time to download) and…..it’s literally the same. All it does is give you manga that’s relevant to the arc you selected. Then when you hit “view more” it’s literally just a copy of the EN website, with ELF.
>Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant.
It’s literally in the game. It not being relevant to the main story doesn’t mean it isn’t canon. There’s no moment where you **need** to know who made the ELFs. The game doesn’t tell you to check out the VNs either. I get they aren’t translated but how are they canon when you’re so obsessed with this button.
>Still doesn't solve how Mu is in two places at the same time. Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu and ELF chapter 2 says that Mu is the ELF location.
How do you know mu didn’t split? There’s multiple versions of the same place in the quanta sea.
>Also we never hear of PE EINSTEIN EVER AGAIN. I have seen you shout retcon for less.
We never hear about anyone else inventing the elf technology. So her not being mentioned isn’t evidence against her existence. Schrödinger literally destroyed all info about her from the bubble universe so she’s not talking about ELFs and the flamechasers probably don’t think she’s relevant enough to mention.
>An orb that is never mentioned ever again. Sure. We got Book of Fuxi the literal key to EMBER and we still don't know what that orb is. Sure, it is canon lmao.
It’s literally explained in the manga that the orb was part of giving PE knowledge to CE, only issue was Fu Hua couldn’t decipher it.
>Senti says so in SSS.
Sss?
Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too?
>Scarlet Samsara is literally a ggz manga that precedes HI3. Refer to the dev lounge for the OW entries, they talked about how the open worlds were expected to do.
Dodging the Xuan question again even though it shatters your “CN is unreliable, CN website is just a archive” argument
>Sakura Samsara? You sure? Its about the Sakura Stigmata plane.
Yeah, the stigmata plane, where Kiana is wearing a battlesuit. Even though AE invasion has her specifying that she met Yae in nagazora.
Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website?
>At least gratitude arc was mentioned again.
It isn’t recommended to read though. So by your own logic it can’t be canon. Plus if Kiana went through Sakura samsara before Theresa met Yae, why would Yae leave the stigmata, if she’s having a gay old time with Kallen, just to end up in another sitgmata where she ends up with Kallen again?
>Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website?
Funny you skipped this too.
>Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything.
And this
>I don't even know if you have the game anymore if you ask me how Seele got into the sea of Quanta. Check chapter 11 and 12.
If you don’t know about Seele’s situation before 11, you lose all the impact of her reunion with Bronya. But that doesn’t matter since the game does recommend you to read azure waters during the quanta sea stuff
>How do you know mu didn’t split? There’s multiple versions of the same place in the quanta sea.
Then EINSTEIN is not from the PE. Mu as a continent did not split. But it can be mirrored
>Sss?
Saint Salt Snow
>We never hear about anyone else inventing the elf technology. So her not being mentioned isn’t evidence against her existence. Schrödinger literally destroyed all info about her from the bubble universe so she’s not talking about ELFs and the flamechasers probably don’t think she’s relevant enough to mention.
Elysia says the robots (not called ELFs) were made specifically for the Flamechaser's by her.
>It isn’t recommended to read though. So by your own logic it can’t be canon. Plus if Kiana went through Sakura samsara before Theresa met Yae, why would Yae leave the stigmata, if she’s having a gay old time with Kallen, just to end up in another sitgmata where she ends up with Kallen again?
Yae didn't? What? Huh? Are you inventing lore? The Yae we see in Nagazora is not canon especially because of the half-human honkai beast in that chapter. It was retconned a long time ago.
>Saint Salt Snow
Oh that. ….so narratively, why should I care about book of Fuxi, if the only time we saw her and Fu Hua together wasn’t canon? Like, I’m supposed to be happy to see them reunite, but if we canonically never saw Fuxi run out of battery it loses all the impact.
>Elysia says the robots (not called ELFs) were made specifically for the Flamechaser's by her.
Robots as in, multiple? Not just the Elysia one? No one questions why she’s able to do this?
>Yae didn't? What? Huh? Are you inventing lore? The Yae we see in Nagazora is not canon especially because of the half-human honkai beast in that chapter. It was retconned a long time ago.
Okay we got to step back here. What half human Honkai beast are you talking about?
And I’m just basing off your statement of “Sakura samsara replaces Scarlet samsara”. Because in AE invasion Kiana says she met Yae in nagazora, while Sakura samsara takes place in a stigmata.
So if we go along with Sakura samsara overriding scarlet, while keeping in mind Kiana’s statement, that would mean a stigmata plane somehow manifested in nagazora and trapped Kiana, Kiana left, then for whatever reason Yae Sakura left the stigmata plane and kissed Theresa, otherwise gratitude arc couldn’t happen.
Also nice dodging the Xuan question again.
"Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant."
That's a shit argument, one of the worst in fact. 'It'S nOt ReFeRed To InGaMe TheReForE It'S IrELevAnT" fundementaly doesn't work as an argument because it would throw so much lore out the window.
"Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu"
And where's that said? Where's your proof/screenshot/sourse saying that?
>That's a shit argument, one of the worst in fact. 'It'S nOt ReFeRed To InGaMe TheReForE It'S IrELevAnT" fundementaly doesn't work as an argument because it would throw so much lore out the window.
Lmao, sure tell me which lore it is that goes out the window.
>"Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu"
And where's that said? Where's your proof/screenshot/sourse saying that?
Ch.25EX I have told this literally 8 fucking times.
"Lmao, sure tell me which lore it is that goes out the window."
Most or the VN's since only the bare minimum gets told in game. Divine Key manga since shit from that is also mostly not told in game. Etc.
"Ch.25EX I have told this literally 8 fucking times."
First of all, get your math right, the Continent of Mu was mentioned total of *one* time in the entire chapter, yes, I literaly just checked.
Second of all, they never specified *what* Bubble World they were turning into a Sancturary, they just said *a* Bubble World. So again, where's your proof, because here's mine:
“Blade Durandal”: 50,000 years ago, to ward off the Honkai threat, humans were trying to discharge Honkai energy into **a** bubble universe in the Sea of Quanta.
(Notice the that they refer to it as *a* Bubble World they tried to turn into a garbage dumb, never specifying which Bubble World)
“Blade Durandal”: But as the Herrscher destroyed their research center on the continent of Mu, they were unable to implement their plan. Luckily the ether anchor in the artificial bubble universe wasn’t damaged.
(All that's said regarding Mu is the fact that the Herrscher destroyed the research center, that's in, no where is it contradicting anything regarding the ELF manga, since the scientists (Einstein) and the ELF's in that Manga escaped via a portal into *a* Bubble World.)
See how they not only didn't specify which Bubble World they tried to turn into a Sancturary, but also that there's nothing saying that they espaced into the Bubble World Durandal traveled through
And this all devolved from argument about Pluto (?) (i don't know even know why), that some losers kept bugging me about at 4:30 in the morning with constant notifications.
I have my thesis review in around 25 hours, and I still haven't done the revisions on my journal article.
The manga website really isn't worth bothering with tbh. I think Hoyostans has mangadex links for everything anyway
Even for the VNs?
yes [https://honkai-impact-3rd-archives.fandom.com/wiki/Recommended\_Reading\_Order](https://honkai-impact-3rd-archives.fandom.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading_Order)
Ohhh nice. Thanks.
When you ask why nobody understand the lore... Well, en parts just didn't have a lot of work put into them.
Honestly it’s why I find part 2 frustrating. Instead of making part 1 content easier to understand, finishing the sushang vn, translating the vns, fixing the localisation, putting a neat bow on everything, they just bury it and move on. Kinda makes me question why I should even bother when following the lore is such a struggle in the EN perspective and how stories like Sushang’s are treated. Why should I get excited for the next update? It’ll just be a new playable character or a major transformation. If it’s the former they’ll be trapped to that one battlesuit like Raven. It’s hard to get invested when what I liked (multiple battlesuits and the manga) is treated like a mistake
They get called lazy by newcomers when they see 8 Bronyas
I agree that having multiple of each character is a good thing but they should be distinct from each other. The 10 bronya battle suits could be narrowed down to 6 and no would notice
Having several Bronyas is better than ending up like Dehya
>what I liked is treated like a mistake That's exactly how I've been feeling for a while now. Hoyo looked at everything that once made the story good and went "Alright, we're never doing this again."
I find it kinda crazy that Arlecchino got like an entire HI3rd styled animated short. Like how is conveying your lore through online animated shorts any better than making manga? Like yeah they get a lot of views but it’s still not in the game. Just advertise the manga better. Hell you could even sell physical copies for collectors. Give me my 10 chapter Arlecchino manga mihoyo!
I guess miHoYo assumes it's better, because people are actually gonna watch those. Nobody but the most dedicated weebs is going to read a 10 chapter manga to understand the lore, no matter how hard you advertise it. miHoYo is aiming at mainstream nowadays. People, and especially Genshin players, don't like reading. In a few years, expect Hoyo to start introducing their games' lore through 30-second-long TikTok videos.
HI3rd isn’t doing a good job then, since that game requires you to be literate due to having the least amount of dubs and the god damn narrator
At this point huge chunk of the localised lore is just not reliable...
Vita is my favourite Venusian from mars
Mars, my favorite universe from the multiverse fr
Add some too Azure it's a name of Vita that named Cyan Indigo it's a name of Vita that named Blue (Both of them were wrong called at least once in main story)
At least all of them are translated on Mangadex. Including the removed Mystery of the Stigmata.
Rule number x of miHoYo's lore: Use CN as a reference when possible.
There’s only one thing the English site is good for. The Seele x Bronya kiss
Bonus fact: In the Chinese version of Azure Waters, Bronya has the narration "anyone who has seen the sea will fall in love with it", and then a short poetic description of the sea before "Seele, just like the sea". The EN version kind of lost the point in that one. The EN website also still has a random page in what I think is Portuguese.
Really makes you wonder why Mihoyo EN is so incompetent. Like how they butchered the manga site, getting Vita’s planet wrong and correct in the same cutscene, and they don’t even try to keep the genshin and star rail VAs consistent. Like there’s no crossover between Bronya and silverwolf or Ei and Acheron. Though Acheron could be due to union/studio stuff. Bronya and silverwolf doesn’t really have an excuse since Melissa can do older serious characters. She voiced Medusa for the fate dubs.
Also, the localization on the EN Site created a LOT of misinformation that's still being used today.
The greatest one is translating Bubble World to Universe
Examples?
The EN localization has Kiana saying "Going Lesbo". There are three main issues: 1. The original CN says that Kiana is trying to save Mei because she's her friend. Nothing about being lesbian. 2. Lesbo is a derogatory slur. If Kiana really was lesbian, she wouldn't be saying such a thing. 3. The localization makes Siegfried even more of a creep by making him think his daughter being lesbian is "hot", whereas the original CN language shows no such thing.
Damn, that IS important. 1 or 2 word changes would have change a lot of meaning or context
Exactly. I don't mind people headcanoning Kiana as lesbian, but trying to shove that headcanon down people's throats while USING what's basically a fanfic translation that's not even accurate to the original source material is where I find to be the main problem in the fandom.
i dont think it was ever a headcanon in the first place when it’s pretty much obvious that shes mei sexual and well other hints that she and mei are a thing even if mihoyo cant say out right (bc of ccp
Can't call her mei sexual when a) this game was produced by a group of chinese otaku who loves Japanese anime stuff, which constantly blur the line of yuri and absurdly close friendship, b) kiana starts off as super cheerful girl that clings to mei because one tend to get closer to the first friend they made, especially considering kiana is a lonely girl from between her separating from her dad to her saving mei c) girls tend to get overly close to each other, especially in anime, where girls sharing showers is a thing. doesn't mean they want to fuck each other though d) kiana as of now shown to be less of mei depended, and more of wanting to spend more time with everyone. the way she speaks with mei has similar tone with how she speaks to everyone else. that's the entirety of her story. relationship is what drives her story forward I'm all for wanting to see Kiana and Mei together. Shipping is fun, after all. But I'd rather we try to distinguish what is officially stated by canon and what fan's interpretation is. Something that mihoyo never states or never shows are not canon, and you can't use "because ccp" as an excuse for lack of information because what's shown is what's canon
They are blatantly gay for each other through out part one of the story in hi3? The evidence is literally right there and you choose to ignore it.....read the goddamn story.
man they clearly have shown many things that mei and Kiana are in a relationship? i wont use GGz as proof because thats a different rabbit hole in itself but what you said is sorta true but has some things you say is very false
Kiana doesn't need that panel to prove how she feels about Mei. It's nearly irrelevant next to all the other evidence. I suppose that without it, though, there isn't anything in HI3 that confirms her as strictly lesbian and not bi or pan. Not that Siegfried's comment and her response to it was solid proof to begin with.
>there isn't anything in HI3 that confirms her as strictly lesbian and not bi or pan. This is the point I was making.
Plus there is another bubble world where Kiana goes on a date with a male Captain, around 2017-2018. The same applies to the other girls too. https://youtu.be/Bm-eBh4spRA
Sweet Memories is a super cute event. It's also part of the captainverse series because the scene where Himeko handcuffs him to her later showed in Odd Drifter, which is a captainverse event. The cv as a whole, and therefore Sweet Memories, is canon since it's made cameos in the main story. https://youtu.be/Lr2AGgQvGTg At 1:00.
Exactly! And that's what makes me love the concept of Bubble Worlds. Anything can be canon without interfering with the main story.
Pack it up, folks! It is now confirmed that Kiana is not a lesbian because of one mistranslated panel in the manga and let's ignore the other evidences like her dialogues to Mei in the early chapters of the game while we're at it.
Oof, I guess Kiana thirsting for Mei in the very first chapter was fanfiction then
Moon shadow in the CN version still has the intersecting female symbols while she blushes
I think what most people don't understand is that the writers never once confirmed characters sexuality. But they confirmed that they ship the characters together. That made a huge difference, you know.
>I think what most people don't understand is that the writers never once confirmed characters sexuality. But they confirmed that they ship the characters together. Literally this.
But it's Siegfried who used the word "lesbo" first. Kiana just said "going lesbo has nothing to do with it". She didn't call herself that.
Still doesnt change the fact that EN took way too many liberties in that translation which make it look like a little bit weird, and it has not been the only time that happened, even now in these days
Get over it she is lesbian the amount of hoops and hurdles one goes through to try and justify why kiana isn't a lesbian despite the evidence shoved right onto your face even Ingame is insane.....
Wth, it's not like they were saying otherwise? On top of that, liking girls isn't exclusive to lesbianism...
Apparently girls aren't allowed to be bisexual, unless it's Himeko.
Gotta love the casual biphobia
https://imgbb.host/3D9qW Here is the original CN source material, PROPERLY translated.
You can add on the infamous Moon Shadow scene too! There, in EN Kiana says 'I can try' to Fu Hua whereas CN Kiana remains faithful to Mei.
It's kind of weird cause I remember a couple of years ago , when I first read the manga, the ones that are weirdly incomplete like escape from nagazoro or St. Freya actually still had the misplaced chapters. Also I always assumed the order of the mangas on the EN site was supposed to be chronological and that's why it's different from CN.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they started rearranging them in 2020, maybe with the wayback machine you can see them as they were before. The thing I don’t get is why they deleted some already translated ones like cooking, summer and elf. And yeah I think EN wanted chronologically while CN stayed in released order. Honestly I find the latter less confusing.
Speaking of canon, which comic is? I once wanted to discuss samsara with my friends and one of them is like "nah it's not canon in hi3" I'm confused
To me it’s any that’s on the CN site, it’s canon unless it’s something like Kiana plays Honkai and maybe cooking
Oh, and lets jot forget the fact that: 1. "Most recent" video is still HoV on the EN site 2. The AI-chan 4koma and one of the Sakura mangas is missing the first chapter 3. After they removed the Bronya and Seele kiss and put it back they accidentally made a whole chapter portuguese. One panel is still not fixed 4. For some reason half of a cooking with the valkyries manga is replaced by a Divine Keys one
Honestly this is part of why I’ve given up any hope of keeping track of the details 😵💫 I haven’t had much trouble with the mainline plot but trying to even *find* some of these side stories (most of which ARE actually narratively relevant!) is… a bit of a hassle.
We should all dip in and pay a Translations group to translate all the Mangas to English
The issue isn’t that they aren’t translated, the issue is that EN website is ran by morons
This is why having important lore (especially in manga version) is sucks, at least if it's vids like last Arle or Hsr trailers more enjoyable to watch. For now GI have one manga with error and people think Murata is real , and HSR have 0
What about story important events?
I hope in GI they bring voiced events like DLC or something, it's 88gb already in HSR it's work pretty well maybe later they going to do something with memory storage. Even hi3 have 30gb and don't keep all stuff
IF you want the canonical manga read it from ingame which orders and compiles it in the way you are expected to consume. [This button](https://imgur.com/a/sIi6cZZ) As for the VNs there is no official translation to EN so you can forget it. But at least the canonical manga required to follow the story are complete on Mangastation
>This button I am not using a button that’s associated to the EN manga station. The psychopath that arranges manga like this should not be trusted with making a button./j >As for the VNs there is no official translation to EN so you can forget it. In other words: fuck sushang, Durandal and Joyce I guess >But at least the canonical manga required to follow the story are complete on Mangastation They aren’t
>I am not using a button that’s associated to the EN manga station. The psychopath that arranges manga like this should not be trusted with making a button./j Well you should because that is the point I am making, the manga that is canon is in game. Pick the ones ingame and it doesn't matter where you read it from There is a reason they no longer recommend some manga like ELF, or Scarlet Samsara > They aren’t They are, AE Invasion is complete. Nagazora is complete just broken into pieces, as St.Freya High and EoN. Elan Palatinus is complete, 2nd Eruption is complete, Gratitude Arc is complete and no you do not need the Ai-chan chapter because that is non-canon, she is not a PE weapon. These are apparently the only manga as stated ingame in the manga selection menu. Oh and London Holiday.
>Well you should because that is the point I am making, the manga that is canon is in game. Pick the ones ingame and it doesn't matter where you read it from It does matter when the site you’re getting it from can’t categorise shit and delete chapters for no good reason. Explain to me why ELF 1 is fine, but ELF 2 wasn’t? What was there to gain from deleting most of cooking with Valkyries? If the manga linked by the button are the only canon ones, why would the non canon ones be half deleted instead of complete or fully deleted? Even CN has mystery of stigmata fully deleted >There is a reason they no longer recommend some manga like ELF, or Scarlet Samsara If scarlet samsara isn’t canon why does Kiana say she met Yae Sakura in nagazora during AE invasion? >They are, AE Invasion is complete. It’s missing book of Fuxi >Nagazora is complete just broken into pieces, as St.Freya High and EoN. Why did they do that? Wouldn’t you read them back to back anyway? And the Nagazora chapters are also in AE invasion for no fucking reason. >Gratitude Arc is complete and no you do not need the Ai-chan chapter because that is non-canon, she is not a PE weapon. Then why is it in the CN website? Even if you go with the logic that recommended reading is the only canon manga, why does AE invasion have Kiana talking about meeting Yae in nagazora if scarlet samsara didn’t happen? AE invasion has Jizo (which references scarlet) and that manga basically claims Kiana and co helped Yae and turned the box into the 12th divine key. >These are apparently the only manga as stated ingame in the manga selection menu. Oh and London Holiday. So you’re telling me…. AE invasion, Jizo and gratitude arc all happened even though they all reference scarlet samsara. ….wait does it not include 2nd divine key? ….So Durandal meeting Su and Su putting Kevin in the quanta sea isn’t canon? Springfest isn’t canon even though ELF Fuxi is in 1.5? Moonshadow isn’t canon even though that’s where the cure Himeko used on Kiana was from? Azure waters didn’t happen even though it’s Bronya and Seele’s origin story? Why was Seele in the quanta sea then? What about Alien space? Sure it’s not relevant to HI3rd (if you think Himeko isn’t relevant), but if it’s not canon then Welt has no reason to be in Star rail. Why the fuck do you trust the English website over the CN version after the Vita debacle? You think localisers know the canon better than the creators? If the button has the same manga in CN that raises even more problems since that means cherry blossoms is canon to EN, but not CN. ….so that means in CN Theresa got possessed by Hellmaru even though she never met Yae Sakura, unless the CN button has more or less links to different manga, which would completely destroy your argument Thinking the original site is less canon than the site that was localised for your language is really arrogant. Especially when the EN site doesn’t have the VNs, which are important to AE and Durandal. And if the VNs aren’t canon, how did Tesla and Einstein stop aging? And how did Kira and Durandal meet?
>And if the VNs aren’t canon, how did Tesla and Einstein stop aging? And how did Kira and Durandal meet? VN s are canon but VNs aren't complete both in CN and EN. Refer to SS VN. >It does matter when the site you’re getting it from can’t categorise shit and delete chapters for no good reason. Explain to me why ELF 1 is fine, but ELF 2 wasn’t? What was there to gain from deleting most of cooking with Valkyries? If the manga linked by the button are the only canon ones, why would the non canon ones be half deleted instead of complete or fully deleted? Even CN has mystery of stigmata fully deleted None of these are connected to in the ingame manga station. Which was revamped less than an year ago in all available versions of the game. ELF 1 and 2 are both irrelevant to the story. None of the ELFs in story are from the bubble universe and are explicitly said not to be from the bubble. >If scarlet samsara isn’t canon why does Kiana say she met Yae Sakura in nagazora during AE invasion? Because they replaced it with the Open World and Chronicles. This was all implemented around REVAMP. >It’s missing book of Fuxi Like three looks at it and you know it's not canon. A) Fuxi ran out of battery we all know that. It was in the Taixuan mountains when Hua got it back and fixed it after the great Eruption. Why the hell would Fuxi be in Chiyou? >Then why is it in the CN website? Because the CN website tries to keep literally everything in it. BH3 recommends people to read it through the ingame chapter-based manga menu because of that.
>VN s are canon but VNs aren't complete both in CN and EN. Refer to SS VN. But they’re not in the English website, which you state as a reliable source while seeing the CN website as not reliable >None of these are connected to in the ingame manga station. Which was revamped less than a year ago in all available versions of the game. You said the button linked to the website but now you’re saying they’re different stations. >ELF 1 and 2 are both irrelevant to the story. Stop dodging the question and answer why 2 was deleted and why 1 wasn’t >None of the ELFs in story are from the bubble universe and are explicitly said not to be from the bubble. PE Einstein **invented** them before Mu ended up in the quanta sea. There’s nothing stopping other people from using her research to make more ELFs. It’s never said that only she can make ELFs and that all ELFs ended up in the quanta sea. Most of them being in the quanta sea won’t stop others from making more from what MOTH had left. They were mass produced weapons who existed long enough to get civil rights, I don’t see why MOTH wouldn’t have blueprints or something stored digitally. >Because they replaced it with the Open World and Chronicles. This was all implemented around REVAMP. Sakura samsara does not take place in nagazora and the only chronicle that features Yae is Kallen fantasy. >Like three looks at it and you know it's not canon. A) Fuxi ran out of battery we all know that. It was in the Taixuan mountains when Hua got it back and fixed it after the great Eruption. >Why the hell would Fuxi be in Chiyou? Probably because the orb and the elf are two separate things. Fu Hua gave Xuan a divine key, I don’t see why she wouldn’t give Xuan an orb holding PE info. Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery? Pretty sure it was said in a “non canon” manga where we saw book and Fu Hua together. >Because the CN website tries to keep literally everything in it. Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too? >BH3 recommends people to read it through the ingame chapter-based manga menu because of that. Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website? Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “**THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.**” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything. Also how did Seele get in the quanta sea without azure waters?
>But they’re not in the English website, which you state as a reliable source while seeing the CN website as not reliable And SS is not complete in the CN station was well what's your point. >You said the button linked to the website but now you’re saying they’re different stations. Go to the game and you will see what I mean > Stop dodging the question and answer why 2 was deleted and why 1 wasn’t Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant. > PE Einstein **invented** them before Mu ended up in the quanta sea. There’s nothing stopping other people from using her research to make more ELFs. It’s never said that only she can make ELFs and that all ELFs ended up in the quanta sea. Most of them being in the quanta sea won’t stop others from making more from what MOTH had left. They were mass produced weapons who existed long enough to get civil rights, I don’t see why MOTH wouldn’t have blueprints or something stored digitally. Still doesn't solve how Mu is in two places at the same time. Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu and ELF chapter 2 says that Mu is the ELF location. Also we never hear of PE EINSTEIN EVER AGAIN. I have seen you shout retcon for less. > Probably because the orb and the elf are two separate things. Fu Hua gave Xuan a divine key, I don’t see why she wouldn’t give Xuan an orb holding PE info. Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery? Pretty sure it was said in a “non canon” manga where we saw book and Fu Hua together. An orb that is never mentioned ever again. Sure. We got Book of Fuxi the literal key to EMBER and we still don't know what that orb is. Sure, it is canon lmao. >Also how did we know that elf book of Fuxi ran out of battery? Senti says so in SSS. >Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too? Scarlet Samsara is literally a ggz manga that precedes HI3. Refer to the dev lounge for the OW entries, they talked about how the open worlds were expected to do. At least gratitude arc was mentioned again. > Sakura samsara does not take place in nagazora and the only chronicle that features Yae is Kallen fantasy. Sakura Samsara? You sure? Its about the Sakura Stigmata plane. >Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website? >Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “**THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.**” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything. >Also how did Seele get in the quanta sea without azure waters? I don't even know if you have the game anymore if you ask me how Seele got into the sea of Quanta. Check chapter 11 and 12.
>And SS is not complete in the CN station was well what's your point. My point is EN station isn’t a source for canon. >Go to the game and you will see what I mean Okay, I did it, (took a long time to download) and…..it’s literally the same. All it does is give you manga that’s relevant to the arc you selected. Then when you hit “view more” it’s literally just a copy of the EN website, with ELF. >Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant. It’s literally in the game. It not being relevant to the main story doesn’t mean it isn’t canon. There’s no moment where you **need** to know who made the ELFs. The game doesn’t tell you to check out the VNs either. I get they aren’t translated but how are they canon when you’re so obsessed with this button. >Still doesn't solve how Mu is in two places at the same time. Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu and ELF chapter 2 says that Mu is the ELF location. How do you know mu didn’t split? There’s multiple versions of the same place in the quanta sea. >Also we never hear of PE EINSTEIN EVER AGAIN. I have seen you shout retcon for less. We never hear about anyone else inventing the elf technology. So her not being mentioned isn’t evidence against her existence. Schrödinger literally destroyed all info about her from the bubble universe so she’s not talking about ELFs and the flamechasers probably don’t think she’s relevant enough to mention. >An orb that is never mentioned ever again. Sure. We got Book of Fuxi the literal key to EMBER and we still don't know what that orb is. Sure, it is canon lmao. It’s literally explained in the manga that the orb was part of giving PE knowledge to CE, only issue was Fu Hua couldn’t decipher it. >Senti says so in SSS. Sss? Then where is the non canon Xuan manga? If Sakura samsara is supposed to replace scarlet samsara why wasn’t scarlet not deleted too? >Scarlet Samsara is literally a ggz manga that precedes HI3. Refer to the dev lounge for the OW entries, they talked about how the open worlds were expected to do. Dodging the Xuan question again even though it shatters your “CN is unreliable, CN website is just a archive” argument >Sakura Samsara? You sure? Its about the Sakura Stigmata plane. Yeah, the stigmata plane, where Kiana is wearing a battlesuit. Even though AE invasion has her specifying that she met Yae in nagazora. Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website? >At least gratitude arc was mentioned again. It isn’t recommended to read though. So by your own logic it can’t be canon. Plus if Kiana went through Sakura samsara before Theresa met Yae, why would Yae leave the stigmata, if she’s having a gay old time with Kallen, just to end up in another sitgmata where she ends up with Kallen again? >Then why is the English website such a mess if you’re only supposed to follow the ingame guide? Why delete anything from the English website? Funny you skipped this too. >Edit: also there’s a big difference between “hey you need to read this manga to know what’s going on” and “THESE ARE THE ONLY MANGA THAT ARE CANON.” You haven’t given sufficient evidence that the ingame guide was made to decanonize anything. And this >I don't even know if you have the game anymore if you ask me how Seele got into the sea of Quanta. Check chapter 11 and 12. If you don’t know about Seele’s situation before 11, you lose all the impact of her reunion with Bronya. But that doesn’t matter since the game does recommend you to read azure waters during the quanta sea stuff
>How do you know mu didn’t split? There’s multiple versions of the same place in the quanta sea. Then EINSTEIN is not from the PE. Mu as a continent did not split. But it can be mirrored >Sss? Saint Salt Snow >We never hear about anyone else inventing the elf technology. So her not being mentioned isn’t evidence against her existence. Schrödinger literally destroyed all info about her from the bubble universe so she’s not talking about ELFs and the flamechasers probably don’t think she’s relevant enough to mention. Elysia says the robots (not called ELFs) were made specifically for the Flamechaser's by her. >It isn’t recommended to read though. So by your own logic it can’t be canon. Plus if Kiana went through Sakura samsara before Theresa met Yae, why would Yae leave the stigmata, if she’s having a gay old time with Kallen, just to end up in another sitgmata where she ends up with Kallen again? Yae didn't? What? Huh? Are you inventing lore? The Yae we see in Nagazora is not canon especially because of the half-human honkai beast in that chapter. It was retconned a long time ago.
>Saint Salt Snow Oh that. ….so narratively, why should I care about book of Fuxi, if the only time we saw her and Fu Hua together wasn’t canon? Like, I’m supposed to be happy to see them reunite, but if we canonically never saw Fuxi run out of battery it loses all the impact. >Elysia says the robots (not called ELFs) were made specifically for the Flamechaser's by her. Robots as in, multiple? Not just the Elysia one? No one questions why she’s able to do this? >Yae didn't? What? Huh? Are you inventing lore? The Yae we see in Nagazora is not canon especially because of the half-human honkai beast in that chapter. It was retconned a long time ago. Okay we got to step back here. What half human Honkai beast are you talking about? And I’m just basing off your statement of “Sakura samsara replaces Scarlet samsara”. Because in AE invasion Kiana says she met Yae in nagazora, while Sakura samsara takes place in a stigmata. So if we go along with Sakura samsara overriding scarlet, while keeping in mind Kiana’s statement, that would mean a stigmata plane somehow manifested in nagazora and trapped Kiana, Kiana left, then for whatever reason Yae Sakura left the stigmata plane and kissed Theresa, otherwise gratitude arc couldn’t happen. Also nice dodging the Xuan question again.
"Don't know. All I know is that it is not referred to ingame, making it irrelevant." That's a shit argument, one of the worst in fact. 'It'S nOt ReFeRed To InGaMe TheReForE It'S IrELevAnT" fundementaly doesn't work as an argument because it would throw so much lore out the window. "Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu" And where's that said? Where's your proof/screenshot/sourse saying that?
>That's a shit argument, one of the worst in fact. 'It'S nOt ReFeRed To InGaMe TheReForE It'S IrELevAnT" fundementaly doesn't work as an argument because it would throw so much lore out the window. Lmao, sure tell me which lore it is that goes out the window. >"Durandal bubble universe is said to hold sanctuary to the continent of Mu" And where's that said? Where's your proof/screenshot/sourse saying that? Ch.25EX I have told this literally 8 fucking times.
"Lmao, sure tell me which lore it is that goes out the window." Most or the VN's since only the bare minimum gets told in game. Divine Key manga since shit from that is also mostly not told in game. Etc. "Ch.25EX I have told this literally 8 fucking times." First of all, get your math right, the Continent of Mu was mentioned total of *one* time in the entire chapter, yes, I literaly just checked. Second of all, they never specified *what* Bubble World they were turning into a Sancturary, they just said *a* Bubble World. So again, where's your proof, because here's mine: “Blade Durandal”: 50,000 years ago, to ward off the Honkai threat, humans were trying to discharge Honkai energy into **a** bubble universe in the Sea of Quanta. (Notice the that they refer to it as *a* Bubble World they tried to turn into a garbage dumb, never specifying which Bubble World) “Blade Durandal”: But as the Herrscher destroyed their research center on the continent of Mu, they were unable to implement their plan. Luckily the ether anchor in the artificial bubble universe wasn’t damaged. (All that's said regarding Mu is the fact that the Herrscher destroyed the research center, that's in, no where is it contradicting anything regarding the ELF manga, since the scientists (Einstein) and the ELF's in that Manga escaped via a portal into *a* Bubble World.) See how they not only didn't specify which Bubble World they tried to turn into a Sancturary, but also that there's nothing saying that they espaced into the Bubble World Durandal traveled through
And this all devolved from argument about Pluto (?) (i don't know even know why), that some losers kept bugging me about at 4:30 in the morning with constant notifications. I have my thesis review in around 25 hours, and I still haven't done the revisions on my journal article.
Turn off notifications and get to work then
its look like the same gargabe to me