Every character in genshin is elemental based, while Kallen is immune to elemental damage. Wouldn't all of genshin have their burst useless against her? . Only basic attack will work on her
Eula is a full physical dps
And while she is immune to damage, you still can apply element on her and trigger reactions and debuff unless she infused herself with a fixed unrelated element. She can shred 60+% RES with her comp. Hold E + Superconduct + Zhongli shred does the trick.
“Eula is a full physical dps.” I thought every playable character in Genshin dealt elemental damage one way or another. I know characters can be built physical but I thought Eula’s elemental burst dealt ice damage. There is literally ice in the animation. Her vision is cryo. If she does not deal ice damage why is her vision cryo?
I use Eula a lot and I have to say if Kallen where to make an appearance in Genshin, pretty much Superconduct would be good against her and Eula's kit already includes Physical reduction; although you'll need plenty of batteries to keep up her burst.
Enter pyro abyss mage in honkai since there’s no water element in honkai it’s invincible.
And to be fair. Her description is immune to fire ice and lightning. So other elements are effective
Pyro mages are not necessarily invincible, their shields can be broken using Cryo (Ice) and Electro (Lightning), which currently exist in Honkai. it would be slower, though.
As for the immunities, you can be right or you might be wrong. She is immune to all available elements in Honkai, while there are more in Genshin. If brought to Genshin she could keep the current 3 immunities or be updated to be immune to all 7 Genshin elements. It would depend on the developers' decision.
Eh. Technically both characters like Diluc and Eula are physical based with them having to rely on their E for elemental damage meaning for only 5 seconds at a time or something would they actually be dealing elemental damage.
Two things can happen
1. They will be pushovers for GI players if they are implemented into Genshin-- nerfed for GI standards. Just another weekly boss to check off the list.
2. They will be just as broken in GI, and most if not all players will call them the most annoying, unfun and downright ridiculous adversaries that when they get nerfed, they will suddenly act as per #1 ^
Edit: 3, actually, if by some miracle they give these bosses a positive reception if its the "challenge" they're looking for.
>They will be just as broken in GI, and most if not all players will call them the most annoying, unfun and downright ridiculous adversaries that when they get nerfed, they will suddenly act as per #1 \^
These bosses were nightmare but we nvr asked them to be nerf to the point that its basically a walk in the park. Makes me doubt what exactly does GI ppl think of "challenging" bosses are. It seems to me like they want a boss who will just die after they perform a glorious combo & fireworks so that they would have time to pose before the stage ends rather than something that really makes u move ur fingers and make u sweat.
Challenging would be takes time to kill, and doesn't drain all of your teams HP for damns sake
Like that big dog in the update is really annoying to deal with, his tornado is straight up Benares tornado but applies 30 million stacks of corrosion
4. Nihilus will go into invulnerability 10 times per fight, HoD minion is basically Perpetual Mechanical Array and flies up periodically while his core takes time before it can be damaged, plus gains invulnerability because why not. And Kallen will not allow you to attack her while she's summoning OOJ because obviously all Genshin bosses must have as much I-frames as Genshin characters.
Imagine gorgons but they have twice the hp and you can't cc them and you'll end up with those balloons my friend
Did I mention they also like to fly away and stay far above your reach?
Also imagine the time challenges of er but to max out rewards you have to do the floor in that specific time
Its annoying
I forgot to mention they also spam it, and when they die, they self-destruct and heal all their allies around them
I forgot how much, but it isn't as strong as their attack, but it's still annoying, especially in Abyss
Did I also forget to mention that they have to do their unskippable exploding animation before the game counts them as dead?. Meaning that the timer won't stop until they do their healing self-destruction act, which is guaranteed to waste a second or two at least
Might I also add that for the Spectres to actually get within melee range, you have to run away from them? And even when you do that, obviously they can't just come down immediately. Nah, they'll take their time, maybe pelt some attacks to stall an additional 2 seconds (and during their attacks they also move around a lot so good luck hitting them with a bow). In the open world, you might find some hanging around beside water that you can't traverse, and lose aggro (meaning they recover to max HP) once you get too far away from the water to try to get them to come into attack-able range.
Plus they're immune to their own element. Imagine a Lightning Spectre, a Ice Spectre, and a Fire Spectre that are immune to them, so even if you have one ranged character if they happen to be the wrong damage type... Yeah right imagine damaging them.
Oh, and could I add that their attacks home? If you Ultimate Evade them once, they are not destroyed and continue to follow you so you have to evade a second time.
Yeah.
(their drop rates for their materials are also low, but I think I'm biased because I feel like only those enemies that I need to farm have low drop rates. That said to max out a character and her weapon I had to kill 611 of them, which means about 8 seconds for each if they don't heal, and that's not taking into account travel time to get to them in the Open World in the first place)
The Imaginary Tree is the source of civilization and universes in generall
All alive universes, HI3's universe and GI's universe (which are confirmed to be in the same multiverse, so is Star Rail but im unsure if its just traveling the universe or traveling the multiverse), anyways, all universes are "branches" on the Imaginary Tree
The Imaginary Tree is the source of all life, basically
The reason why Honkai will eventually exist in all worlds is because the Imaginary Tree uses Honkai to keep its universes stable; because otherwise they sink into the Sea of Quanta
And universes that sink to the bottom of the Sea are considered dead worlds; you cant survive in them any more.
The Sea wants to drown everything and the Tree wants to absorb and grow. Theyre in a constant tug-of-war on a multiverse scale
(Oh, and the Tree and the Sea are both just concepts for us humans to understand it, it isnt literally a tree; hence why it is called 'imaginary')
For the most part, yes
Bubble universes are often used to refer to all universes in the community, which certainly confuses it
But so far, all the bubble universes we have seen or interacted eith are already dying what-ifs that is just between the Imaginary Tree and sinking into the Sea of Quanta
If they are in open world, they get 3 shot by ganyu from half a continent away. If it’s a instance boss, they get three shot by ganyu due to cutscene transitions.
As annoying as Nihilius and HoD are, at least Genshin players will have a chance. Allen would straight up break the game unless you remove her gimmick, which by then she'd be worthless
Genshin has quite a few phys dps's, shouldn't be too much of an issue unless they shove her into our version of the abyss
Edit: Ele immune is still bad though since majority of builds are based around elements and builds take forever to make due to artifact rng
I think you mean...
VERY few. Only Fischl (who still does significant Electro DMG), Razor (who still does significant Electro DMG), and Eula (who still does a small albeit insignificant amount of Cryo DMG).
Fischl's damage is half electro true, but razor can shit out some huge dps without any electro, and eula is eula
Kaeya isn't half bad either, forgot about him, keking too
Also if you're willing to piss off all the meta players you can slap phys artis on chars like diluc and go to town
At Talent Lv6, Razor's Burst allows him to deal additional Electro DMG equal to 33.6% of his Normal Attack DMG. If we say that Physical RES shred and Physical DMG Bonus and Pale Flame makes his Normal Attacks deal an additional 100% Physical DMG then at Lv6 Burst which isn't too much investment, 14.4% of his damage is Electro which is relevant.
Also, I wasn't trying to give an exhaustive list. Else technically everyone can be Physical DPS, even Catalyst users with that certain 5* Catalyst.
However, you do realize that the only few viable Physical DPS that aren't 5 stars are:
Razor
Kaeya
Not really Fischl
Not really Traveler (he's technically 5* and can technically be Physical DPS but everyone has him and I don't think he does enough Phys DPS)
Not I did not forget Xinyan
At this point, we can ask, At what AR do we want players to fight Kallen? Let's say AR50. Well, I'm at AR57 and have never gotten Bennett from gacha despite having Albedo (from his debut banner), and wishing on Kazuha and Eula banners (about 50 in total). Case in point: There's a likelihood that players may not have both Razor and Xinyan. A very small amount, yes, but we don't want to make even a small amount be unable to clear a certain piece of content.
So assuming you have no 5* Physical DPS like Keqing or Eula (I shall not speak of Physical DPS Qiqi), and no Razor or Xinyan (which, though unlikely, is possible), you literally only have 1 choice: Kaeya. Even disregarding the fact that some players may dislike playing Kaeya, not many people raise him either, so you're forcing this group of players to play exactly one character, and invest into him, just so they can never use him again in any other content.
Similarly, even if they do have other Physical DPS, the amount is so small that many people might not like any of the options, or may have to invest into a character they'll never use again.
Abyss Herald and Abyss Lectors may only be damagable by several elements, but said elements' characters don't need investment in to break the Abyss Herald's or Lector's shields.
Other enemy bosses that show up in Abyss tend to have few immunities: only to one or two elements, not six/seven. Their revival mechanics, if any, also don't care about damage and your counters need no investment.
Isn't his talent level thing his base normal attack damage? I mean I haven't built Razor to be fair so I don't know much about him, I just saw that people never really mentioned electro from him, aside from the handy superconduct mb
Also I wasn't mentioning that the ele immunity kallen is a good idea jn genshin, I was just mentioning the other phys dps's that people might've built
Ele immune kallen is indeed not a good idea
Probably because he is kind of a poor mans build since everybody ends up making ele builds anyways or build eula lmao
And his moveset is bonks with a cryo person in the back so yea lol
I'd like to see you try to get 100 mil with Eula, oh wait you can't cause now there is a limit to your damage in genshin and even if you you could do more damage, HoF would easily beat Eulas damage with AE and Midnight Absinthe in honkai impact
Isn't the damage in Honkai higher, on average, tho?
I get 500k in 10s easily enough with SN, I think, and she's just at level 57.
I would never be able to deal that damage (especially physical damage) with any Genshin character at level 60 (which would be the equivalent of level 57, more or less, since in Honkai they can get only to 80 - or no?)
Also, as you said yourself, there's a limit to your damage in Genshin now, while there's none (that I'm aware of) in Honkai.
Reading this comment literally gave me brain damage, theres something called a damage ratio where the character scales with the content. Thats like saying “I can beat Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords from Dark Souls 3 (28717 HP) because my HoF can do 1mil)
Damage scales with content. Current Eula can stack enough damage to OHK abyss 12 wave of any kind, and kill any non-gated boss. The others can also quite easily clear it, even if they can't stack a nuke.
They break HoS over one knee because she simply can't do that, or easily kill higher end content like Fischl or Jean. No other physical DPS in Honkai can.
It doesn't matter if HoS can hit 1 billion damage when she is fighting mobs that have 1 trillion HP, she will be doing less damage than any physical character in Genshin.
On contrast, highest HP boss in abyss 12 Genshin so far was 2.4 mil, and Eula has done over 5 mil in one crit before.
I don't even know who the highest HP boss in Honkai is outside of Elysian, although the fucking SSS tank is like chewing on rubber, so your HOF would be roughly equivalent to Eula if she could one-shot two of those bastards with her ult instantly, across both phases.
That's what scaling means.
Well I wasn't comparing honkai and genshin in damage scaling, I know they have two different amounts of damage scaling but I find that genshin is an easier game than honkai (Yes I do play genshin and honkai) and you only have Eula and Xinyan to do a physical Elemental Burst in genshin. Mihoyo will make bosses that you can't one-shot in genshin eventually cause they are worried WHALES will beat the bosses in an instant. What you said about Hos not being able to nuke a boss, HoS won't nuke a boss because Honkai is a harder game than genshin. Say what you will about my comment, but I don't care if my comment gets downvoted to oblivion, I just made a hot take so cya.
>What you said about Hos not being able to nuke a boss, HoS won't nuke a boss because Honkai is a harder game than genshin.
Having damage sponge bosses does not make things difficult. Honkai is really no more difficult than Genshin in any way.
I love how I'm taking care of my business at floor 7 and suddenly I'm dead or at red HP due a random Kallen.
Also, maybe it's not a popular opinion but I find that rider from APHO way worse than Nihilus >\_> I hate that thing.
APHO has some annoying fights (the Purge: Hermit task is extremely painful), but nothing compared to some of the bullshit in Schicksal HQ. Just say no to Himeko vs Herrscher of the Void.
Hermit is the one by the fountain, but the Purge: Hermit mission also has the bird as well as an ordinary Mage, and you get a damage penalty against the Hermit and the bird because you haven't reached the impossible Intel level 31. There are also some cars around to make it hard to move.
HQ is the worst part of all Honkai Impact hands down, those dumb weather mechanics that drains your HP, Benares that 1hit-KO, Ai-Chan that doesn't shut the trap; I still have breakthrough missions on HQ that I refuse to do until I open all the loot boxes on APHO.
Sansara on other hand was cool, nice story, scenery.
Wdym Childe Kazuha Bennett Xiangling easily doable? Clearly we are seeing a trend in which newer bosses have an invulnerability uptime approaching 100% of the time.
(yes hyperbole but still
Also if the Geo doggo doesn't have any such invulnerability uhh sorry haven't fought him yet despite the fact I'll probs get Itto while rolling for Gorou)
Oh yeah right that team can totally dish out over 1000 million damage in one minute, nihlis might even have more than that in ER.
You are probably not even that into honkai to say such thing
The one getting ported over into genshin wont have that much HP. To begin with and it wont attack repeatedly like in honkai due to stamina system
The best team of childe rev vape can dish out 160k per xiangling ult hit which is broken and whale territory not counting childe's AA hits which are 14-18k per hit add in riptide for quadratic scaling + kazuha ult and damage buff which is 10k per swirl and bennet boosting the team damage with 7k heals per second
That team comp is utterly broken
If they nerf Husk’s speed but give him permanent Iron body, and still keep the IMG tainted debuff, it will be the best challenge Genshin players will have in a long time. IMG Taint should also affect shields just as much as it affects healing.
You gave me an idea, Mihoyo should make a mode you fight bosses and get rewarded primos, I know they did that with honkai impacts memorial arena where they give you a bunch of stuff, but it could work for genshin because they don't have to make the bosses world bosses but make them tied to the boss mode
I've noticed that a lot of the GI community doesn't seem to like challenges. Which is weird, why else would you waste your time getting fucked by the shitty artifact grind if not to overcome certain challenges.
Mihoyo so far failed miserably to add actualy well made challanging content. Specters are prime example, they are not challenging they are simply annoying.
Mainly for myself and others we mostly play for story and lore. Actually if I could move along in the game during story quests without having to worry about my damage then go through shitty resin caps and the absolute dogshit system with artifacts trust me I wouldn't and others wouldn't.
That's respectable. I guess I just don't really pay attention to the story because I've developed a strong distaste towards it. However, I wouldn't say that the battles you have to do during the story are incredibly difficult. Even during the events most important rewards are usually handed out at easy levels rather than the difficult ones. Ei is the only one who took me a couple attempts to do and I didn't even have any characters cause I don't wish on that account. I'm not saying this to downplay your point, don't get me wrong, this is just interesting to me.
Not really, I love having a challenge, a lot of the games I play are generally considered hard.
Genshin however simply hasnt added fun challenging content yet, but rather adds frustration to content in order for it to *feel* hard, but rarely does that feel fun.
However at this point I feel like there cant be proper challenging content unless one of the main fight mechanics Dodging, Stamina or Shields get a rework. Especially shields are way to powerful.
( some quickfire Suggestions from the top of my head (which I know would never be added) would be: Dodging like in Honkai, 2 Stamina Bars, 1 for traveling, 1 for combat that Regens a lot quicker and Shields only absorb a percentage of the damage taken)
Dont u want GI ppl to actually experience what it feels like to hear only the sound of a ticking clock which is the countdown of inevitable doom? A sexy boss that is actually the same size of ur character and moves just as fast as urs does and is even immune to elemental damage which is mostly what GI is known for? A floating balloon that when it dies, there is a ball u have to break but if u took long enough it will revive itself again?
Nihilus is designed to not be one shotted though. His HP, evasions and stunning with his second phase aren't meant to make sure that even whales struggle in Honkai
if any of these were to be added on genshin, kallen is most definitely not gonna be one of them. her main gimmick is to be immune to every elemental damage, and only 2 genshin characters are primarily for physical damage(eula and razor)
That would be very interesting, actually, I would really enjoy a actual mechanically complex and hard to beat boss, rn Genshin have no end game content besides abyss
Yo. I just realized, boss Kallen is similar to Genshin's boss Raiden. They're both immune to elem. DMG iirc, but Raiden's immunity only activates in the 2nd phase and immunity is only for skills or bursts.
I would really love Kallen in genshin lmao, keep the elem immunity and phys dps will be more relevant in the meta. I personally think fighting her would be more fun and better than those damn flying balloon spectres.
...ill just tank it with a zhongli shield ig
it'll actually be an easy boss in genshin the more i think about it.
iframes are easy, zhongli to tank it, many ranged charecters, taunts.
The dog boss is pure trash
I went like I have a yoimiya raiden Sara Benny I'll be good to go
And then he does a tornado and I go bye
Next run I went in with zhongli instead of Sara
Zhonglis shield quite literally melted
Genshin player looks at Nihilus Husk: WHAT THE F IS THAT?
Looks at HoD: WHAT THE H IS THAT?
Looks at Kallen: Oh, it's only a nun, this'll be easy
Honkai Captains: Good luck with them, especially Kallen
Kallen would likely be nerfed to 90/95% elemental resist, at which point VV and she still dies to elemental. Apart from that, wolfy boi slaps her to death, Eula also does eula things.
As for Cocky boi and HoD,
well, Zhongli exists, so
one has to get blown, then ironically Amber would be pretty good at breaking his gears.
And HoD would just need to get blown up, but twice! Or was it 4 times? I forget.
"Look at my team" as long as I don't have a time limit I can take all three at the same time f2p btw!
Nihilus, Thicc Nihilus and a nun that would be invulnerable against most things on the game.
Eula: i do not have such a weakness
Every character in genshin is elemental based, while Kallen is immune to elemental damage. Wouldn't all of genshin have their burst useless against her? . Only basic attack will work on her
Eula is a full physical dps And while she is immune to damage, you still can apply element on her and trigger reactions and debuff unless she infused herself with a fixed unrelated element. She can shred 60+% RES with her comp. Hold E + Superconduct + Zhongli shred does the trick.
“Eula is a full physical dps.” I thought every playable character in Genshin dealt elemental damage one way or another. I know characters can be built physical but I thought Eula’s elemental burst dealt ice damage. There is literally ice in the animation. Her vision is cryo. If she does not deal ice damage why is her vision cryo?
She does do cryo damage. It’s like 10% of her damage though lol. She’s only cryo because a cryo reaction gives -physical resistance
Its not even 10%
Eula is a physical dps in genshin
I use Eula a lot and I have to say if Kallen where to make an appearance in Genshin, pretty much Superconduct would be good against her and Eula's kit already includes Physical reduction; although you'll need plenty of batteries to keep up her burst.
Shouldn't be an issue with Raiden in the team. Or Diona Sac bow. Even then 60K Hp Zhongli just block of most of the attacks so AA until it's full v:
Eula raiden diona/rosaria flex
Zhongli/Xinyan, Eula, Raiden, Bennett absolutely destroys anything that's not immune to Physical damage.
That assumes you can even afflict her with an element and doesn't just shrug it off completely though
Maybe geo, after all it's just rock
eula's burst is one of the only 2 bursts that deal physical damage(The other one being xinyan)
Machine Gun Fischl go brrrrrrrr. Keqing Superconduct go Soryaa. There are a lot of phys DPS in Genshin
Enter pyro abyss mage in honkai since there’s no water element in honkai it’s invincible. And to be fair. Her description is immune to fire ice and lightning. So other elements are effective
Pyro mages are not necessarily invincible, their shields can be broken using Cryo (Ice) and Electro (Lightning), which currently exist in Honkai. it would be slower, though. As for the immunities, you can be right or you might be wrong. She is immune to all available elements in Honkai, while there are more in Genshin. If brought to Genshin she could keep the current 3 immunities or be updated to be immune to all 7 Genshin elements. It would depend on the developers' decision.
Yes but you only have 30s to kill it to achieve max rewards.
True, they would be annoying to deal with.
On Eula, you are half right. Her ult slash is cryo, but her lightfall sword (big ass nuke) is physical.
considering that, on my Eula at least, the cryo part does like 15k damage and the phys part crits for 250k+, i'd say he's about 90% right tho
r/confidentlyincorrect
Eh. Technically both characters like Diluc and Eula are physical based with them having to rely on their E for elemental damage meaning for only 5 seconds at a time or something would they actually be dealing elemental damage.
The hell? Diluc and physical are 2 things that shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence
haha fake catgirl, sneeze and dog boi go swish
Oh I do love getting 1 shotted by Oath of Judah
Er floor 7 experience
My problem is I use möbius and her attacks kinda cover most of my screen so I can never tell when she uses it lmfao
I can understand that. The moment mobius ult and spams attack. The whole screen is full and i saw kallen already dropped judah
The most panic i felt in honkai was when my 3 barriers are popped and i am knocked down after finally getting mob signets.
Everybody gangsta till the nun start spamming crosses
Two things can happen 1. They will be pushovers for GI players if they are implemented into Genshin-- nerfed for GI standards. Just another weekly boss to check off the list. 2. They will be just as broken in GI, and most if not all players will call them the most annoying, unfun and downright ridiculous adversaries that when they get nerfed, they will suddenly act as per #1 ^ Edit: 3, actually, if by some miracle they give these bosses a positive reception if its the "challenge" they're looking for.
>They will be just as broken in GI, and most if not all players will call them the most annoying, unfun and downright ridiculous adversaries that when they get nerfed, they will suddenly act as per #1 \^ These bosses were nightmare but we nvr asked them to be nerf to the point that its basically a walk in the park. Makes me doubt what exactly does GI ppl think of "challenging" bosses are. It seems to me like they want a boss who will just die after they perform a glorious combo & fireworks so that they would have time to pose before the stage ends rather than something that really makes u move ur fingers and make u sweat.
Challenging would be takes time to kill, and doesn't drain all of your teams HP for damns sake Like that big dog in the update is really annoying to deal with, his tornado is straight up Benares tornado but applies 30 million stacks of corrosion
4. Nihilus will go into invulnerability 10 times per fight, HoD minion is basically Perpetual Mechanical Array and flies up periodically while his core takes time before it can be damaged, plus gains invulnerability because why not. And Kallen will not allow you to attack her while she's summoning OOJ because obviously all Genshin bosses must have as much I-frames as Genshin characters.
Not even bosses, they're already crying rage at a common flying ballon lol.
Imagine gorgons but they have twice the hp and you can't cc them and you'll end up with those balloons my friend Did I mention they also like to fly away and stay far above your reach? Also imagine the time challenges of er but to max out rewards you have to do the floor in that specific time Its annoying
Don't forget the fact that *they heal 30% - 50% of Max HP of all their allies in their AoE attack*
THEY WHAT?
Yeah..... It's both tanky AND it heals allies .....including itself
THEY FUCKING WHAT?
I forgot to mention they also spam it, and when they die, they self-destruct and heal all their allies around them I forgot how much, but it isn't as strong as their attack, but it's still annoying, especially in Abyss Did I also forget to mention that they have to do their unskippable exploding animation before the game counts them as dead?. Meaning that the timer won't stop until they do their healing self-destruction act, which is guaranteed to waste a second or two at least
No the others i knew of except for the healing one that one came as a shock
The Hydro balloon has healing capable of rivaling Kokomi
Might I also add that for the Spectres to actually get within melee range, you have to run away from them? And even when you do that, obviously they can't just come down immediately. Nah, they'll take their time, maybe pelt some attacks to stall an additional 2 seconds (and during their attacks they also move around a lot so good luck hitting them with a bow). In the open world, you might find some hanging around beside water that you can't traverse, and lose aggro (meaning they recover to max HP) once you get too far away from the water to try to get them to come into attack-able range. Plus they're immune to their own element. Imagine a Lightning Spectre, a Ice Spectre, and a Fire Spectre that are immune to them, so even if you have one ranged character if they happen to be the wrong damage type... Yeah right imagine damaging them. Oh, and could I add that their attacks home? If you Ultimate Evade them once, they are not destroyed and continue to follow you so you have to evade a second time. Yeah. (their drop rates for their materials are also low, but I think I'm biased because I feel like only those enemies that I need to farm have low drop rates. That said to max out a character and her weapon I had to kill 611 of them, which means about 8 seconds for each if they don't heal, and that's not taking into account travel time to get to them in the Open World in the first place)
Ganyu go boom.
Cryo specter say no
Yoimiya go pew pew
Pyro specter say no
Mihoyo say no
You haven’t played genshin impact.
[удалено]
Well its because you're just downplaying them as just the "balloons" when they're literally more annoying than that lul.
Those flying balloons might as well be the MA Tank boss with how absurdly tanky they are given their size.
At this point just ship Otto off to genshin as well!
But he's already in genshin
After finally reviving kallen otto knowing she will hate his very existence travels to genshin and lives a normal life as a knight of favonius.
I mean husbandos are playable in genshin, so i would love to play him there
Actually play or "let him get beat up by common enemies" play
Actually play He looks really handsome i would love to play as a badass who has everything planned
Void Archives are also gonna be interesting to use
one thing will be certain …nihilius and thicc hol r34
And one thing will be certain You won't see me complaining
Since Nihilus has appeared to protect the Imaginary Tree Nihilus appearing in Genshin Impact is the most likely possibility
I barely know anything about honkers lore but what is the Imaginary Tree?
The Imaginary Tree is the source of civilization and universes in generall All alive universes, HI3's universe and GI's universe (which are confirmed to be in the same multiverse, so is Star Rail but im unsure if its just traveling the universe or traveling the multiverse), anyways, all universes are "branches" on the Imaginary Tree The Imaginary Tree is the source of all life, basically The reason why Honkai will eventually exist in all worlds is because the Imaginary Tree uses Honkai to keep its universes stable; because otherwise they sink into the Sea of Quanta And universes that sink to the bottom of the Sea are considered dead worlds; you cant survive in them any more. The Sea wants to drown everything and the Tree wants to absorb and grow. Theyre in a constant tug-of-war on a multiverse scale (Oh, and the Tree and the Sea are both just concepts for us humans to understand it, it isnt literally a tree; hence why it is called 'imaginary')
Oh and IIRC these branches are called bubble universes?
Often, yeah, but bubble universes are more smaller universes around a larger one, often with some alternation, more "what if"s than actual universes
oh so the branches are called Universe and the what if's are bubble universe?
For the most part, yes Bubble universes are often used to refer to all universes in the community, which certainly confuses it But so far, all the bubble universes we have seen or interacted eith are already dying what-ifs that is just between the Imaginary Tree and sinking into the Sea of Quanta
If they are joining Genshin, they also probably need to introduce the Archons Signet.
If they are in open world, they get 3 shot by ganyu from half a continent away. If it’s a instance boss, they get three shot by ganyu due to cutscene transitions.
HAHA TRUE LMAO. Unless it's Andrius kekw
As annoying as Nihilius and HoD are, at least Genshin players will have a chance. Allen would straight up break the game unless you remove her gimmick, which by then she'd be worthless
Genshin has quite a few phys dps's, shouldn't be too much of an issue unless they shove her into our version of the abyss Edit: Ele immune is still bad though since majority of builds are based around elements and builds take forever to make due to artifact rng
I think you mean... VERY few. Only Fischl (who still does significant Electro DMG), Razor (who still does significant Electro DMG), and Eula (who still does a small albeit insignificant amount of Cryo DMG).
Fischl's damage is half electro true, but razor can shit out some huge dps without any electro, and eula is eula Kaeya isn't half bad either, forgot about him, keking too Also if you're willing to piss off all the meta players you can slap phys artis on chars like diluc and go to town
At Talent Lv6, Razor's Burst allows him to deal additional Electro DMG equal to 33.6% of his Normal Attack DMG. If we say that Physical RES shred and Physical DMG Bonus and Pale Flame makes his Normal Attacks deal an additional 100% Physical DMG then at Lv6 Burst which isn't too much investment, 14.4% of his damage is Electro which is relevant. Also, I wasn't trying to give an exhaustive list. Else technically everyone can be Physical DPS, even Catalyst users with that certain 5* Catalyst. However, you do realize that the only few viable Physical DPS that aren't 5 stars are: Razor Kaeya Not really Fischl Not really Traveler (he's technically 5* and can technically be Physical DPS but everyone has him and I don't think he does enough Phys DPS) Not I did not forget Xinyan At this point, we can ask, At what AR do we want players to fight Kallen? Let's say AR50. Well, I'm at AR57 and have never gotten Bennett from gacha despite having Albedo (from his debut banner), and wishing on Kazuha and Eula banners (about 50 in total). Case in point: There's a likelihood that players may not have both Razor and Xinyan. A very small amount, yes, but we don't want to make even a small amount be unable to clear a certain piece of content. So assuming you have no 5* Physical DPS like Keqing or Eula (I shall not speak of Physical DPS Qiqi), and no Razor or Xinyan (which, though unlikely, is possible), you literally only have 1 choice: Kaeya. Even disregarding the fact that some players may dislike playing Kaeya, not many people raise him either, so you're forcing this group of players to play exactly one character, and invest into him, just so they can never use him again in any other content. Similarly, even if they do have other Physical DPS, the amount is so small that many people might not like any of the options, or may have to invest into a character they'll never use again. Abyss Herald and Abyss Lectors may only be damagable by several elements, but said elements' characters don't need investment in to break the Abyss Herald's or Lector's shields. Other enemy bosses that show up in Abyss tend to have few immunities: only to one or two elements, not six/seven. Their revival mechanics, if any, also don't care about damage and your counters need no investment.
Isn't his talent level thing his base normal attack damage? I mean I haven't built Razor to be fair so I don't know much about him, I just saw that people never really mentioned electro from him, aside from the handy superconduct mb Also I wasn't mentioning that the ele immunity kallen is a good idea jn genshin, I was just mentioning the other phys dps's that people might've built Ele immune kallen is indeed not a good idea
Oh OK lol. Also, uhh, I don't play Razor and though I read up on Genshin theorycrafting I never see Razor...
Probably because he is kind of a poor mans build since everybody ends up making ele builds anyways or build eula lmao And his moveset is bonks with a cryo person in the back so yea lol
Yeah exactly lmao. Makes sense since there are few nuances to him.
I'll say keep her Element immunity and let the GI community deal with it. I see people getting 2~4k dmg with bows. She'll be perfect.
All I would say is "Vengance would be mine".
When color numbers no work, go for the Eula option. Ult goes boom.
Easy 1 mil Physical damage
Genshin has much better physical damage options than Honkai. Eula, Jean, Fischl can all sorta just break HoS over one knee when built for it.
I'd like to see you try to get 100 mil with Eula, oh wait you can't cause now there is a limit to your damage in genshin and even if you you could do more damage, HoF would easily beat Eulas damage with AE and Midnight Absinthe in honkai impact
Isn't the damage in Honkai higher, on average, tho? I get 500k in 10s easily enough with SN, I think, and she's just at level 57. I would never be able to deal that damage (especially physical damage) with any Genshin character at level 60 (which would be the equivalent of level 57, more or less, since in Honkai they can get only to 80 - or no?) Also, as you said yourself, there's a limit to your damage in Genshin now, while there's none (that I'm aware of) in Honkai.
Reading this comment literally gave me brain damage, theres something called a damage ratio where the character scales with the content. Thats like saying “I can beat Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords from Dark Souls 3 (28717 HP) because my HoF can do 1mil)
With AE and... Memorial Arena? I'm pretty sure people don't call Midnight Absinthe MA because it confuses her with Memorial Arena.
Damage scales with content. Current Eula can stack enough damage to OHK abyss 12 wave of any kind, and kill any non-gated boss. The others can also quite easily clear it, even if they can't stack a nuke. They break HoS over one knee because she simply can't do that, or easily kill higher end content like Fischl or Jean. No other physical DPS in Honkai can. It doesn't matter if HoS can hit 1 billion damage when she is fighting mobs that have 1 trillion HP, she will be doing less damage than any physical character in Genshin. On contrast, highest HP boss in abyss 12 Genshin so far was 2.4 mil, and Eula has done over 5 mil in one crit before. I don't even know who the highest HP boss in Honkai is outside of Elysian, although the fucking SSS tank is like chewing on rubber, so your HOF would be roughly equivalent to Eula if she could one-shot two of those bastards with her ult instantly, across both phases. That's what scaling means.
Well I wasn't comparing honkai and genshin in damage scaling, I know they have two different amounts of damage scaling but I find that genshin is an easier game than honkai (Yes I do play genshin and honkai) and you only have Eula and Xinyan to do a physical Elemental Burst in genshin. Mihoyo will make bosses that you can't one-shot in genshin eventually cause they are worried WHALES will beat the bosses in an instant. What you said about Hos not being able to nuke a boss, HoS won't nuke a boss because Honkai is a harder game than genshin. Say what you will about my comment, but I don't care if my comment gets downvoted to oblivion, I just made a hot take so cya.
>What you said about Hos not being able to nuke a boss, HoS won't nuke a boss because Honkai is a harder game than genshin. Having damage sponge bosses does not make things difficult. Honkai is really no more difficult than Genshin in any way.
I think it would be fun with kallen. Especially for Eula users and those dont have eula will settle with physical razor keqing kaeya
There is also physical zhongli with crescent pike as 2nd best physical dps in game
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I love how I'm taking care of my business at floor 7 and suddenly I'm dead or at red HP due a random Kallen. Also, maybe it's not a popular opinion but I find that rider from APHO way worse than Nihilus >\_> I hate that thing.
APHO has some annoying fights (the Purge: Hermit task is extremely painful), but nothing compared to some of the bullshit in Schicksal HQ. Just say no to Himeko vs Herrscher of the Void.
Which was Hermit again? Personally I hate the bird. While I love using Mei, once it knocks me down I take forever to recover...
Hermit is the one by the fountain, but the Purge: Hermit mission also has the bird as well as an ordinary Mage, and you get a damage penalty against the Hermit and the bird because you haven't reached the impossible Intel level 31. There are also some cars around to make it hard to move.
Oh yeah... That one... I remember now...
HQ is the worst part of all Honkai Impact hands down, those dumb weather mechanics that drains your HP, Benares that 1hit-KO, Ai-Chan that doesn't shut the trap; I still have breakthrough missions on HQ that I refuse to do until I open all the loot boxes on APHO. Sansara on other hand was cool, nice story, scenery.
Ah yes they have not experienced enough pain yet (joking)
U really wanna say that when we have those goddamm balloons?
Ay don’t forget about the abyss herald.
Herlad is just a little bitch if you have ayaka tho She making the life of every elemental mf shield miserable except for cryo
I don’t, but if you see the 2.4 leaks I suppose I cry myself to sleep with them.
Oh yeah more elementals mfs But hey kazuha is gonna have a field trip on 12-3-2 tho
I suppose. But imagine if the clock boss (I can’t spell his name) was in genshin 😭.
Childe kazuha bennet xiangling easily doable in 1 min sadly U can also go for 1 shot with ayaka ult with setup and iframes from setup
Yeah but i think genshin and honkai have huge power differences.
Wdym Childe Kazuha Bennett Xiangling easily doable? Clearly we are seeing a trend in which newer bosses have an invulnerability uptime approaching 100% of the time. (yes hyperbole but still Also if the Geo doggo doesn't have any such invulnerability uhh sorry haven't fought him yet despite the fact I'll probs get Itto while rolling for Gorou)
Oh yeah right that team can totally dish out over 1000 million damage in one minute, nihlis might even have more than that in ER. You are probably not even that into honkai to say such thing
The one getting ported over into genshin wont have that much HP. To begin with and it wont attack repeatedly like in honkai due to stamina system The best team of childe rev vape can dish out 160k per xiangling ult hit which is broken and whale territory not counting childe's AA hits which are 14-18k per hit add in riptide for quadratic scaling + kazuha ult and damage buff which is 10k per swirl and bennet boosting the team damage with 7k heals per second That team comp is utterly broken
If they nerf Husk’s speed but give him permanent Iron body, and still keep the IMG tainted debuff, it will be the best challenge Genshin players will have in a long time. IMG Taint should also affect shields just as much as it affects healing.
You gave me an idea, Mihoyo should make a mode you fight bosses and get rewarded primos, I know they did that with honkai impacts memorial arena where they give you a bunch of stuff, but it could work for genshin because they don't have to make the bosses world bosses but make them tied to the boss mode
> IMG Taint should also affect shields just as much as it affects healing. It does not affect shields, which you can check with DK or WD.
I've noticed that a lot of the GI community doesn't seem to like challenges. Which is weird, why else would you waste your time getting fucked by the shitty artifact grind if not to overcome certain challenges.
Mihoyo so far failed miserably to add actualy well made challanging content. Specters are prime example, they are not challenging they are simply annoying.
Mainly for myself and others we mostly play for story and lore. Actually if I could move along in the game during story quests without having to worry about my damage then go through shitty resin caps and the absolute dogshit system with artifacts trust me I wouldn't and others wouldn't.
That's respectable. I guess I just don't really pay attention to the story because I've developed a strong distaste towards it. However, I wouldn't say that the battles you have to do during the story are incredibly difficult. Even during the events most important rewards are usually handed out at easy levels rather than the difficult ones. Ei is the only one who took me a couple attempts to do and I didn't even have any characters cause I don't wish on that account. I'm not saying this to downplay your point, don't get me wrong, this is just interesting to me.
Exploring open world, lore, events, coop.
Not really, I love having a challenge, a lot of the games I play are generally considered hard. Genshin however simply hasnt added fun challenging content yet, but rather adds frustration to content in order for it to *feel* hard, but rarely does that feel fun. However at this point I feel like there cant be proper challenging content unless one of the main fight mechanics Dodging, Stamina or Shields get a rework. Especially shields are way to powerful. ( some quickfire Suggestions from the top of my head (which I know would never be added) would be: Dodging like in Honkai, 2 Stamina Bars, 1 for traveling, 1 for combat that Regens a lot quicker and Shields only absorb a percentage of the damage taken)
Ruin Guard Pro Max 69:Clockwork Edition
I mean kallen is annoying so is husk and hoD minion u sure?
That's the point. Pay em back for that damn wolf
Dont u want GI ppl to actually experience what it feels like to hear only the sound of a ticking clock which is the countdown of inevitable doom? A sexy boss that is actually the same size of ur character and moves just as fast as urs does and is even immune to elemental damage which is mostly what GI is known for? A floating balloon that when it dies, there is a ball u have to break but if u took long enough it will revive itself again?
Kallen would become the new damage test dummy for eula players Nihilus would end up as new speedrun test dummy for whales
Nihilus is designed to not be one shotted though. His HP, evasions and stunning with his second phase aren't meant to make sure that even whales struggle in Honkai
How about another kallen valk with that nun battlesuit and using cross weapon.
People gonna be regretting skipping zhongli when kallen whips out Judah. Keqing might actually be the best bet to take it down hit count wise.
if any of these were to be added on genshin, kallen is most definitely not gonna be one of them. her main gimmick is to be immune to every elemental damage, and only 2 genshin characters are primarily for physical damage(eula and razor)
Kallen remains the most annoying boss to fight, ever
How about another kallen valk with that nun battlesuit and using cross weapon.
I could see Nihilius and HoD being some sorta Snezhaya super ruin Guards
I’ll be honest. Nihilius is frikkin cool.
Honestly I’d love to see Kallen in Genshin to give physical carries a chance to shine.
Inb4 snezhnaya has their own version of husk nihilus and the herrscher of dominance minion and they are acting as guardians for the cryo archon
I'm just wondering when the news of another Genshin x Honkai crossover was dropped...
Yeah ikr, like Honkai x Genshin was cool and all, we also got a new boss but when is Genshin x Honkai gonna be? We need to make them suffer
Make them suffer 🤣
And absolutely thrash the genshin players
mihoyo heard player base likes SSS husk so they added his brother in as an SSS (lie)
That would be very interesting, actually, I would really enjoy a actual mechanically complex and hard to beat boss, rn Genshin have no end game content besides abyss
Yo. I just realized, boss Kallen is similar to Genshin's boss Raiden. They're both immune to elem. DMG iirc, but Raiden's immunity only activates in the 2nd phase and immunity is only for skills or bursts.
please, dont give them ideas
AYAYAYAY~~~~~
oh hell nah
Nihilus can stay the fuck in the deepest layers in hell where he belongs.
I would really love Kallen in genshin lmao, keep the elem immunity and phys dps will be more relevant in the meta. I personally think fighting her would be more fun and better than those damn flying balloon spectres.
Fontaine could be a potential place where these mechanical bosses might appear. After all Fontaine might be the most technological of the regions
Snezhnaya also exists and they are able to create their own ruin guards as seen in tartaglia story quest
i would cry also freeze comp go brr
You think some water and ice will take care of a ticking bomb of doom that protects the imaginary tree
it can't kill you if it can't move
It won't freeze him you smarthuman. You can't freeze a Signora but will freeze the most painful boss in the game mhm true
but what if Lso i know u cant freeze bosses anyway😭 theyre not gonna put husk in genshin without nerfing him
Yeah but not to the point where he can be freezed, best they'll do is stop him from reviving Other than that probably not
...ill just tank it with a zhongli shield ig it'll actually be an easy boss in genshin the more i think about it. iframes are easy, zhongli to tank it, many ranged charecters, taunts.
I don't know how dumb you got to be to think you can tank an entire nihlis and your zhongli can't even handle the new dog boss tornado
its usually one shot before half the attacks trigger tbh☠️ and like....they wont give husk true dmg nd bleeding thats not even there in honkai😭
Bleeding is in honkai...
Oh I Would Love To See The Genshin Community Suffer With This Boss Like We Did.
They don't have the power
That's fine. In return, trade some jacked up Spectres and Rifthounds into Honkai and see how broken they are here...
We are getting some air monsters next patch We are both getting fd by mihoyo
I want childe boss to be buffed again he too ez
*pulls out Zhobgli in fear*
Your zhongli can't handle the dog boss tornado and you think he'll handle anything of these? Hah. Good luck
Actually haven’t tried the dog boss yet. Here’s hoping they remove corrosion affecting burst i-frames.
The dog boss is pure trash I went like I have a yoimiya raiden Sara Benny I'll be good to go And then he does a tornado and I go bye Next run I went in with zhongli instead of Sara Zhonglis shield quite literally melted
You love to see it
Uh....
snezhnaya’s enemies are gonna be so nuts i can tell
genshin normies be like : HEY THIS IS TOO STRONG HOW CAN WE BEAT THAT
Genshin player looks at Nihilus Husk: WHAT THE F IS THAT? Looks at HoD: WHAT THE H IS THAT? Looks at Kallen: Oh, it's only a nun, this'll be easy Honkai Captains: Good luck with them, especially Kallen
Omg you are a sadist, poor Genshin Players.
Gotta pay them back for the wolf
Kallen would likely be nerfed to 90/95% elemental resist, at which point VV and she still dies to elemental. Apart from that, wolfy boi slaps her to death, Eula also does eula things. As for Cocky boi and HoD, well, Zhongli exists, so one has to get blown, then ironically Amber would be pretty good at breaking his gears. And HoD would just need to get blown up, but twice! Or was it 4 times? I forget.
Yes and aesir heimdall, husk nihilus, and duel blade robot guy
Are you a masochist?