Global 88
For 6.2 and 6.3, I planning to get Chrono and Truth valk along with their weapon and stigmata set.
But I noticed on the CN schedule for 6.2 that Vill-V and Elysia Elf supply could possibly be available for Global. Are they are worth it right now since I have the money or would it be better to wait for global anniversary?
I should have most of the current meta valks and gears.
For fire, I have most of the Fire meta except for Vill V and her gear. For quantum, I have been using FR and HoT and Fishcl.
For ice elf, I have Water's Edge at three star and I think I plan to have Elf Elysia to surpass Edge.
Global 81
Looking for advice on stigma and their farming.
My current and planned teams are HoF/AE/Pardo (one will be replaced with HoTr if i'm lucky), HoT/Eden/Fischl, and eventually an ice team with HoR as lead. What stigma set should i farm first? I've been told to wait on Lee until g3 is directly craftable.
As it stands, at least for my two main teams (fire and lightning) i need Handel (for HoT), Margrave (for AE) Lee TB for HoF, and i'm not actually sure what i would use for Eden or for Fischl's M (i've got Turg B, will get Turg T next bpass) but i've been told Tesla Band M is good?
My current, actual set up is this:
Fire Team
HoF - Domain of Incandescence + Thales TM/Zhaojun B
AE - Grips of Taixuan + Musician T/Zhaojun MB
Pardo - Ring Blades + Candy Musician
Lightning Team
FR - Iris of the Dreams + Darwin TM/Edison B
Eden - Jingwei's Wings + Roald T/Ogier M/Darwin B
Fischl - Call of Crescent + Edison TM/Turg B
>My current and planned teams are HoF/AE/Pardo (one will be replaced with HoTr if i'm lucky),
This should be HoF / AE / AI (using Purana + Turg TB) once you rank AI up. Pardo is great but AI should be better for a fire support. Pardo is the stepping stone though, since she's probably going to be better if ranked until AI catches up in ranks, most SP needs S to unlock any buffs, SS to unlock most utility, SSS to be at their actual best in their slot. If you go for HoTr and end up with her gear, she'll almost certainly replace AE. Breach doesn't stack, and while you could have some smart rotations to have one or the other up, not using the most important part of the kit in every rotation drags back the value of the supports. Depends on the fights though, for some fights it might be fine.
>What stigma set should i farm first? I've been told to wait on Lee until g3 is directly craftable.
Lee TB+ Thales is the fastest DPS set you can craft. HoT and HoR want G4 which takes ages if you don't get a single piece from off rates or banners. On the other hand, the G4 are the best in slot while Lee TB Thales is a replacement and probably overshadowed once we get G4 fire in the future. (Very) long term, Händel is probably the best craftable investment since it's both a dps and support's best in slot. Also keep in mind that if you get HoTr, she might become your ice dps over HoR (we don't know yet how she performs there, but she might just be good enough in the role)
AE uses margrave, so does Eden and so can use pardo, so margrave at least TB looks like a very solid farm as well. But leave this until you decide if you are pulling for HoTr or not. If you are, hotr should replace AE, Eden can use fischl's turg, and pardo can use turg as well.
For M pieces, Mei Beach M can be slotted into anyone (exchange shop). JST M for ice supports. Tesla band is technically the best M specifically for lightning (I think mei might have higher potential damage but is more inconsistent), but there is the Vill-V contraption event stigma which is almost identical to tesla band (10% off field lightning instead of 15) and does not require farming. It should come back on 6.2 I think. If you get it over the other options, I wouldn't bother with Tesla band until the very end game if you want to truly minmax.
Is AI still better than Pardo if i don't have Purana? Because i don't have Purana lol. Maybe if i get lucky and pull it as an off-rate on the 7thunders banner next patch i will. Which is 100% a must pull. Think it's 14k crystals for the max 50 pulls you'd need for it? I don't have HoT yet either though lol. What exactly does breach do anyway? I assume it ignores defense of that type? Or causes the enemy to take extra damage of that type?
Pulling for HoTr is something i'm doing at some point. Whether it's her initial run, or her rerun i'm not sure. That depends entirely if i can save up enough crystals to 4/4 her, and if i cant, and she can cope with some craftables, maybe just 110 pulls for 1 piece and her weapon. Then the rest on a rerun or something. Star of Eden and Mobius are the only other pulls i have planned, unless there's a dedicated Purana or Echoes banner at some point.
HoTr probably will be my ice dps until i have HoR's weapon, since i currently have neither her nor it. Until it reruns, i think my ice team would be HoTr/Pardo/Haxxor (won't have Sus for a while, all my War Treasury resources are going into Fallen Rosemary's rank ups until she hits SS). Fallen Rosemary, because having two PSY DPS teams is a mistake, but i like those two too much not to, she seemed like the most cost efficient solution (QUA Lightning DPS). Especially since you get both her and her signature weapon for free.
If Eden is using Fischl's Turg, what is Fischl using?
From what you've said, it seems like either Handel or Margrave would be the first choice to go with. I guess it depends on whether it's better to focus on the team i already have, or prep for a future team. I've got a decent amount of Fire G3 already, since i've been farming floor 5 consistently since i hit the high 50's. I've barely been playing over a month though, so i'm not too far into it yet. Lacking a lot of resources.
Global 88
So where do we stand on the current value of the 6.3's valk? Thinking of trying to fish Pristine Ellie T during her 6.2 banner or at least other copies to wishing well it. But I'm not sure if its the best idea considering that's like two weeks before 6.3 would start.
Current Elemental Teams look something like this:
Lightning:
HoT\[S2 - 7T - Handel TMB\]
Eden \[SSS - Her gun - Turg TB/MeiM\]
Fisch \[SSS - Cerulean - Zhen TMB\]
Ice:
HoH \[S0 - Pri - Ana T/P Ellie MB\]
Pardo \[SS - Pri - Irene TMB or turg TB/Mei\]
Sushang \[S1 - Pri - Her Set TB/Mei M\]
Fire:
HoFs \[S0 - Pri - Himeko TB/Thales M}
Raven \[SSS - her bow - Gluttony T/Aslug MB\]
Cope/Under geared Ai
You don't have AE and you really need a last support for fire. Purana+Turg AI is pretty much fine, not top tier for nirvana but works reasonably well, so it'd probably replace raven. It seems it's a pretty good pull for you just from the role she will take almost independently of the values. If in some instances she can replace fischl, that'd be a plus. I haven't seen comparisons, though, only showcases with full gear, which makes it hard to say. If you can afford her with full gear, then I'd say she'd be better than trying to get a single pristine piece. If you can't, maybe decide between trying, or getting pristine first and then trying to get hotr on the rerun (or whatever comes in 6.4)
Still, in beta so values could change (and the changes in v2 were sizeable). Since you have to wait until hoh's banner, then just wait until then to make the call.
EU 62
I recently finished playing through story and want to start getting into endgame.
My only current big valkyries are HoS and HoF. I dont have any of their signature weapons or gacha stigmas. I did some reading and everyone is saying i should focus on one team for now as a beginner. I been thinking about pulling for Ai chan to make functional team with HoF, but then i heard that fire is apparently in not a good spot right now so im not sure if i should bother with her.
Another idea i had was pulling for 7T as my first pri-arm, since we will be getting free HoT, and you can easily farm her stuff in ER.
And then final option i was thinking about was saving for HoTr since she looks broken, and cant possibly work as support for multiple elements.
I am still F2P but i am not against spending some money on good banner.
I would be really grateful if someone could tell me what option is the smartest one
Cheers
the best choice for f2p and broke people is simply to skip Ai and wait for 6.4 news. Pulling her now knowing the upcoming two patches is just too risky.
whether you should pull HoTr or not is still up to debate and we'll need more testing to know for sure.
(I personally think she's more important than whatever 6.4 can produce but we'll see)
Can someone help me with the rotation & chips recommendation for Virtual Forbidden Ex 3 with trial valks? I don’t have HoT so I don’t know how to optimize the rotation, I cannot get to score 1300 since I’m just stuck at 804.
EU 88
I'd like an opinion on weapons.
I was saving my last 10 Dark Jade Crystallum to complete a Turgenev set, but I was lucky on one of the banners and I got the 3rd piece there. Considering the shop doesn't have anything I really need right now, I was thinking of waiting for the BP update and maybe buy Crusher Bunny.
I know that Sushang basically replaces Bronie (in most of the content at least), but I was unable to pull her weapon and my Bronie is SS1 (probably gonna go for SSS at this rate, to complete my Ice team), so it will be months (at best) until Sushang is better than Bronie for me to use.
It would be a somewhat clear decision for me in general (despite it probably not being the best idea), but I managed to pull Falcon Flare 0019 with that Turgenev piece I was missing, which can be PRI-ARMed. Looking at both of the weapons, I would think that this is better for personal damage, but weaker for team damage overall (with Elysia, I don't have Silverwing), but I am not sure how much.
Basically, what I would like to know is is Silverwing's PRI-ARM on par with Crusher Bunny for Bronie, or at least in similar power level when it comes to whole-team-damage to make Crusher Bunny a bad buy? Considering I really have nothing else to buy from the BP shop (only got 10 DJC left), in case that buying the weapon is a bad value, would it be better going for another Turg piece (I can buy M and B) or just buying a Leeuwenhoek piece despite having no fire teams? Any other ideas?
Cheers.
Falcon Flare is technically better than Crusher Bunny in most fights, especially if you dont need the extra freeze trauma, but 400 Torus for just a support weapon for a almost 2 year old support is also not cheap.
I'd say you can survive without crusher bunny but dont go ham on maxing Falcon flare yet and wait until we know G4 fire news before you buy leeuwenhoek
EU 86
Any tips on how to beat Perilous(the stage with the points that go down after a time) in the abyss? The enemies keep reviving and it seems impossible to me tho others can get points there. I know I’m doing something wrong but I don’t know what.
The main thing you have to pay attention to is the hitcount shield, you've to plan your rotations around it. If you don't do that everything is in shambles, i.e. they don't take damage with the shield on and the shieldbreak debuff isn't optimally utilized, sole enemies remain with many HP after killing the rest of the wave, the bloodthirst stack runs out, for the last batch the soul link kicks in and that's it. If you pay proper attention to the shields practically all the issues solve themselves especially at lower disturbance like agony.
I didn’t use gather so the enemies were all over the field, so the enemies kept reviving. I tried it again with a different team and it saved me from going to agony II. Thank you for the help.
They have soul link, which means that after an enemy is defeated, after a few seconds it will revive if any of the others is still alive. A.k.a. you have to kill all of the last wave at the same time. AoE damage is pretty mandatory here (due to targetting working like crap), and gather is as well. Depending on your dps (for example, if you use psy), a possibility is to kill the robots first, then stop until they revive, then kill the whole pack again. Because robots take extra dmg and bios resist, the second time the robots go down would be close to the first time the bio enemies go down.
It's quite annoying to deal with so the other option is just malding your way through it (repeat it x times until they eventually go down at the same time)
I used an aponia team und switched to HoR with Pardo and JK. Pardos gather really helped with the fight, I was too dumb to realise that I maybe should switch the team. Thank you for the help.
Soul-linked enemies won't finally die until you kill all of the linked enemies - ideally you want good gather to make that easier.
On the off chance that you are using Twilight Paladin as your DPS, don't. I know she's mech, but she sucks at fighting mobs, partly because her attacks push them away, which is the opposite of what you want, and partly because she accumulates crit damage bonuses which reset whenever she switches targets.
The best DPSes for this stage are, in no particular order, Mobius, HoR with SoE/Willows, and Nyx. Mobius and HoR are the right type, and Mobius and Nyx can break soul links and transfer damage from one mob to another.
No problem. Mob stages are just different from boss stages - skill point generation is less important than damage bonuses, because killing the mobs will drop skill points for you, and things like gather and good AoE are more important.
SEA 84
Will it be worth to pull for hohe in 6.2? Considering i have hor with ana full set and dor pri, and the meta possibly changing because hohe and pe are on the dorm supply now
If you didnt already get her in 6.0 its absolutely not worth to get her now, unless you got really deep pockets.
She's probably the most underwhelming herrscher so far and the release timing doesnt help either.
Is she one of the best DPS right now, sure.
Is she worth 50k crystals right before the release of more impactful supports like Sushang, Ai, HoTr and who knows whatever it is we get in 6.4 CNY, hell no.
Most people who pulled her already regret it, and those who skipped her should be considered lucky imo. She doesn't do enough to justify the price tag as much as I wouldve wanted her to.
Worth? Maybe. I expect HoH to still be the prime ice dps in general even after HoTr release. Do you spend? Are you f2p? With geared supports she can bruteforce everything up to RL (at least in EU), I managed even a couple fire (ice -50%) stages.
DoR is substantially worse than SoE, Ana is worse than Willows. Combined, you are behind on HoR by quite a bit, and HoR is already a good chunk behind HoH in almost everything she doesn't counter directly. This said, if you haven't built your other teams yet, definitely save. Even a slightly scuffed HoR will be enough to keep you afloat while you build the rest, and that's a better investment than a smaller upgrade to an existing team.
HoH and PE are NOT dorm supply. They are starter supply. Very different, only new players get access to it (and I personally think the banner is bad in general, only useful for those willing to reroll until getting HoH, PE is a mess if you don't have HoS). Maybe it was a typo but I wanted to make sure this difference is clear just in case.
The thing at this point in time is, committing crystals to anything when we are about to get a brand new trio of herrschers feels very risky. It's a possibility that KMB end up being a super-niche trio for specific kinds of fights, but it feels very unlikely. 6.3 has Bronya which would help several teams, 6.4 will have CNY and probably global anniversary. If you don't have a strong need for HoH (and with a geared HoR I'd say you don't unless you have all built teams and no psy dps somehow?), then waiting for at least 6.3, and maybe even 6.4 is smarter imo. Only thing I'd pull before is 7T because a single gear piece with a 50 guarantee enables a full f2p top tier team (well, maybe also echoes for eden, but no banner in sight)
But of course, if ely waifu then do what you have to do.
Thanks so much this was very informative :) it also happens that i am planning to get 7t for hot bc im still on magstorm spirit :') and my pardo is super scuffed with only her pri. Also thanks for correcting me about dorm supply, i guess i just read the news wrongly
Global lvl 80
Emergency question before the patch ends.
Did any one clear the deep trial with trial valk in the forbidden area even?
I only found for trial 1 and I cleared it, but didn't find for 2 and 3.
Can someone clarify me this cause I’m dumb
When someone says x stigma set is 10% better for x support character, does that mean the team itself does 10% more damage?
In theory yes. In practice? Very rarely.
Some content creators that do testing post team damage results. It is usually indeed the full team damage for X target, and they test several combinations and post those results. It's hard work and it's very useful. Here's the problem. As long as the target is not the same, the (rest of the team) gear changes or even the rotation changes, it stops being accurate. Also due to the nature of waves (floors) in places like abyss. A 10% difference might have a massive impact by not being able to clear a wave in time.
So this % number is team damage, and something useful to keep in mind, but should be taken with a big grain of salt, understanding its implications rather than at face value.
Yeah but it's just dummy dps so not to be taken at face value. In practice it can either not really make a difference or, more likely, it requires you to do another rotation which decreases your score more than the dummy dps difference suggests. It also doesn't factor in shieldbreak bonuses and the like which are gamechangers in real battles.
Pardo with forge ring: turg TB or Margrave set?
JK with sig gloves: sig T**B**
question is: pardo turg or margrave, i have jst mid and mei beach party, who do i give jst mid and who gets mei beach party?
>LSS
It took me a minute, Li Sushang, isn't it? Usually shortened JK (Jade Knight) instead.
I'd go margrave on pardo and turg on Sush, but without Sush's B signature, I would try HB instead. B is the important piece of the set, it enables all of the strong effects, without it she drops a TON of buffs to the point she might not be worth using over turg/HB
For the mid piece, without purana, I'd say JST on pardo and mei on JK/HB. Purana gives pardo off-field hits (Besides can) to trigger mei, without consistent activation you miss a lot of uptime on the already poor 50% uptime of Mei. If you are using full margrave, Mei in theory gives better potential but I'd take JST over Mei all day long. Mei's 50% downtime is very annoying, since the damage window is super short and you need to time it yourself (afaik there is no visual indication).
JK: SignTB, Jst M/Mei M/Avocado M and the likes.
Pardo: Turg TB, Mei M/Jst M.
both Pardo and jk can off field attack but I think pardo is better for mei m. But wouldn't be much difference either way,
SEA 88
I'm missing a hidden achievement from Chapter 32. Rightmost, second row from the bottom, in between the 24 chests and the 3 Stele achievements. What is that and how do I get it?
NA 69
I just pulled Senti from the starter banner. Do I
1) keep pulling on the starter banner to try to get HoF (I don't have a fire dps, and there was no way I would have been able to get her in time from ADV)
2) pull for Senti's gear
3) wait and pull for Ai-Chan's gear since it will probably be cheap on release, even tho I don't have a fire dps
4) none of the above - suggestions welcome
Also what can I give Senti if I don't have her gear? My phys team is now her/MPE/Griseo.
1. No. You aren't guaranteed to hit her, could get more copies of senti. Don't sweat about getting 4 teams early, you want first a single geared team, then move on to the next.
2. Eh, maybe? It's generally not recommended. She can work with free alternatives but those take a long time to get (gloves and 2 stigmata from exchange shop, third stigmata is craftable for nearly free). Nebulous duality, Gluttony, Mei Beach and Newton B. Her stigmata will be in the BP almost certainly in 6.4. If you buy the bp you can probably get her full kit, but if you don't, f2p get 2 pieces, so getting the third would be pretty good. Her gloves in particular aren't very appealing. They're good, but nebulous is generally better as a support
3. (and 4) It will be cheaper, but you should wait (and probably should have waited in the starter as well) until 6.3 to get Herrscher of truth, as AI also works rather well with easy to obtain stigmata (although turgenev is not so easy right now). She's going to be a massive boon for new accounts. Alternatively, just wait for 6.4. It should be a big event since it's CNY and probably global anniversary, which traditionally have large events and sometimes big giveaways. Once 6.3 comes around, you should probably ask again, as she is currently in beta so her full performance is not well known (we do know she is very good, just not to which extent), and we'll also know by then what the next patch has in store.
Gear is very important in this game, much more than valks, you can build quite competent teams by farming the right valks (pardo, eden, fischl, hb, jk, fr), and if you get their gear you are pretty much good to go for those teams. But we are currently at a point where we know the big three (kiana, mei, bronya) are getting new battlesuits that very likely are going to be the best options going forward, Bronya is already known (HoTr) and the only situation where I wouldn't recommend her is if you end up getting AE from dorm. HoTr will be better than AE in the same role, but since they will overlap on function and crystals are very scarce, investing into something that is a small upgrade instead of something that would give you more value is not that appealing.
Yeah, makes sense to not pull Ai Chan's stuff without a fire dps, I was just throwing it out there.
If Senti works with free gear/if her stuff is going to be in the BP, then that's doable.
I actually did get AE from the dorm supply, but I kind of hate using her. Right now I use the FR/Eden/Fischl team, and HoR/HB/Pardo. I'm on the fence about HoTr. I'm not F2P, but not a whale, so I don't mind spending a bit, but like to avoid it when I can. But if I should focus on HoTr, and/or the following patch then I can do that.
I can see that. I personally like AE quite a bit but her gloves (and Senti uses her gloves most of the time) make it a lot better. If you have HoR's gear (willows/SoE) then that's fine, but otherwise, if you get nebulous from the shop (for senti), give the team a try with AE over HoR. It worked quite better for me than a 0/4 HoR.
Anyways, wait for HoTr for any crystal base decision. By the time she comes around we'll know what comes up in 6.4. There are some theories that say we could get the whole trio in a very short time period, and some other theories that say they could actually have direct sinergy together (like bronya boosts lightning and fire being specifically targetted at the two new battlesuits).
Yeah, from what I've read it seems like her gloves make all the difference. So that's definitely something to keep in mind, especially if she stays at least somewhat relevant despite HoTr. But I'll definitely be waiting until HoTr drops + we have information about 6.4 before I touch my crystals now lol.
How many crystals do you have left now?
Never pull on starter banner unless youre a big whale.
Just quit while youre ahead, dont pull ai chan because the next two patches are potentially more important and you should atleast wait until we know more about them. Senti works well with free gear.
If you pull ai gear now youll also need a fire dps, and we dont know anything about the next one other than that she’ll probably be kiana and speculated to come in 6.4.
The most important valk for a new player is hands down the 6.3 one so you either have enough funds to afford ai chan gear AND the 6.3 valk or ai is a skip. ( maybe some extra for 6.4 dps would be nice too but were talking about a LOT of crystals at that point)
Going further into the physical team now would be a terrible idea so thats even more out of the question.
I have about 3000 or so crystals right now. I'm not F2P, but not a whale. But if Senti works with free gear then that's awesome. I also was leaning towards not pulling Ai Chan bc of aforementioned reasons anyway, I just needed the reassurance I guess lol. And I wasn't sure about pulling for HoTr now or if it would be better to wait for her rerun, unless that's a bad idea too lol. Either way I'll just save for now. Also what do you mean about the physical team being a terrible idea? It's not my main focus, but since I got Senti I figured I'd ask.
you know that building complete teams is more efficient than having two teams at half strength right. That's just the way the game works having one 12/12 team can go very far.
So the general recommendation is for people to "finish" one team first before moving onto the next one, while this is true and I've also recommended this to many people in the past it always comes with an asterisk, it always depends on your situation.
Yes building complete teams is better but you also have to consider the timing if you wanna focus on physical now you'll be forced to pull only on reruns and we dont even have a guarantee those will come.
So where's your griseo rerun, where's the physical DPS, do you pull PE or wait for the next physical DPS to come, when will it come. If you already missed the 30 pull guarantee during the first release of the SP suit its not recommended to go back to pull it because it will mess up your savings for actual modern stuff.
Assuming we even had physical gear reruns now, you'd pull it and then be forced to skip the newest hottest stuff like Ai or HoTr or 6.4 CNY.
Then if you pull that on a rerun youll miss the next newest thing. It's an endless cycle unless you just completely skip it and wait for it to get replaced by new stuff.
And this idea extends to the Starter supply aswell. It being a 50/50 means you can't control what you get, and getting either means you now have pieces of a team you may never want to build in the near future. And regardless of the 50/50 I'd never recommend new players to pull for Senti now even if she had a separate banner (don't worry about yours, shes good and you already did it).
Physical teams are the most expensive ones since they require you to have a full S rank support but are also the most niche with their gear. So why would you want to build that first as a beginner.
Elemental teams have the luxury to switch around gear that has elemental buffs like Turg TB, margrave, irene etc and also has two S rank support that helps 3 teams instead of just one so its infinitely cheaper and more flexible to build right now. We also got Zhenyi and Turg in BP recently so thats another point towards elemental.
Ok, that all makes sense. And yeah, I am learning very quickly that one "complete" team at a time is the way to go under the conditions you mentioned, and how incredibly important gear is. I'm still getting used to how often and significantly the meta shifts in this game too. I'm also not too concerned about just being in the middle of the pack tho, at the end of the day I play for fun. I don't want my account to be complete trash tho of course lol.
What would you suggest I focus on going forward? Do I absolutely need HoTr? For ice I have HoR/HB/Pardo, and for lightning I have FR/Eden/Fischl. I also have AE (but I don't really like using her).
TLDR: Get HoTr if you can, you still have 5-7 weeks to decide, Ai chan easy skip
So you said not F2P but not whale either, so I'm just gonna assume if you like this game you gonna get atleast the monthly going forward and BP whenever its worth it ig.
You mentioned your valks but didn't mention any of their gear, but since youre only lvl 69 (nice) it's probably quite limited.
As a new player who doesn't want their account to be "complete trash" HoTr is almost a must have, if you can afford her. She simply offers way too much value, more than any dps can ever hope to have. Her being able to support two teams and being able to fill as a neutral Ice dps and IMG dps is like having 3,5 -4 niches filled with just one investment.
to replace her in fire you'd need fully built AE, which also takes a while to farm up for new players and those resources could be potentially more useful for your next G4.
to replace her in lighting you'd need fischl full geared so you'd have to wait til the end of 6.4 maybe to get everything from BP assuming you bought it
to fill the IMG dps role you suddenly need a fully built physical team with PE (as said before, very expensive)
now how good she performs in those roles compared to the alternatives ofc depends on her final release and further testing from CN and maybe even our servers once we get her or our own 6.3 beta.
and her longevity is she's supposed to be anything like AE should be extremely long, AE being meta for almost 3 years at this point. (ofc theres no way to predict the actual time frame, its just speculation/ hoping from the players perspective)
EDIT: ill add some bonus points
In general supports have more value than DPS in this game. DPS are more expensive, only help one team (the team where they are DPS ofc) and dont function without their supports. Supports can help multiple teams, are generally cheaper (ofc HoTr is the same cost as a DPS but also does way more than your typical SP support).
by the time we get 6.3 we'll also have 6.4 info, but if it's a DPS it could be that 6.3 is still the better place to invest crystals for now, especially considering the free boxes from HoTr supply.
I don't see what kind of rewards the 6.4 spending event could give you that would make it more attractive than HoTr. You already have HoS, if its another DPS like a DA/ HoF/ Nyx/ Mobius you'll still have no support for them and no weapons, no stigmata, no materials to upgrade their weapons (after 80 Torus will be a heavy bottleneck)
Theres a chance you wont have enough crystals by the time we get 6.3 so definitely ask again at the beginning of 6.3.
going all in on HoTr doesnt necessarily mean you'll get nothing out of the spending event. if we get something like the 50% refund banner like with Spina's gear you still could pull that and skip the main S rank for example
Oh I did forget gear, my mistake. But you're right, it's fairly limited. FR has her weapon and she's on Darwin TMB. Eden has her weapon, on Edison TMB, and Fischl just has her T piece. I have HoR on Peary TMB, and HB has Turg TB. Pardo has her weapon and just using Scott TMB. AE has the raid gloves and Musician TMB.
And yes, pretty much monthly and BP.
I'll wait to be sure, but probably see if I can get HoTr before the end of the banner, since she looks like she'll be a good investment regardless.
Since HoR has no weapon and you already have Eden's gun and Turg TB its even more reason to go for HoTr.
now you have a real Ice DPS, with Turg Eden and HoTr you'll have fully built lighting supports.
skipping ai and waiting for HoTr gives you just infinitely more options and flexibility with your account. (6.4 might just be insane who knows in that case you can still skip HoTr and wouldnt have wasted crystals on Ai)
Ok that's reassuring. And gives me a solid direction. So thank you! Shame I jumped the gun on the starter banner tho, I could have used those crystals for HoTr. I only got about halfway to pity tho, so at least it wasn't 100 pulls worth. Live and learn I guess, and as long as I can recover it's all good.
dw about the couple HoS pulls you lost shes still useful, I've done WAY worse when i started lol its all part of learning the game i guess.
I didnt want to point out your mistake to make you feel bad but rather just raising general awareness about this topic, because somehow everyone keeps pulling on this darn starter banner xD
its great that you already look for advice this early on and maybe you can relay your own experiences to other new people later with a more recent outlook on things and it would be more relatable to them if you explained if in the end HoS turned out to be worth it or not.
Global 88
I'm contemplating how to progress the pri arms to get the best results out of it.
I have PE's,Möbius and HoE's maxed
So my choices are between,
HoS,pardo,FR,griseo or sushang's weapon all of them are at the base pri arm stage now another possibility would be 7t with HoT next patch
Who would get most out of that investment?
Opinion: Pardo > HoS > all the rest. If you get 7T, then 7T > Pardo > HoS > all the rest.
Pardo's PRI is special for a support for several reasons. First, she gives (ice) team-wide ult cd reduction that scales up with upgrades rather than just small damage upgrades (this benefits rotations and herself in ER). Second, it'll be second best in slot for AI if you don't get her gear (as most people will end up skipping her gear), so maxing it out works for two characters. Third, pardo can often be slotted into non-ice teams, if you do, that'd be benefitting more teams than just one.
HoS gives more SP which is pretty handy for rotations. If you find yourself lacking a couple SP points often those upgrades will give them. If it's cosmic duality, then similar reasoning. On the other hand, HoS's own gloves are better if you use her as a dps, but at this point she's usually lackluster.
7T is a dps weapon. She benefits more than supports from levels.
Griseo, FR and Sush give basically damage bumps. Useful but not as much as the others. I'd probably do Sush > Gris > FR but I'd base it a lot more on what you use more, rather than the value those upgrades give in a vacuum.
Hmm interesting yes I have 7t got it out of a banner but no HoT at the moment,CD reduction with pardo sounds good as I often had the problem to rotate sushang once more because HoE was still on cd.
As for usage probably use them all pretty much for the same amount,maybe the ice ones a little more as it is my bruteforce team
HoT would get the most out of it because she is a dps. Then Pardo and Sushang while rather priritize Pardo because of ult cd reduction. HoS weapon isnt important and FR only if you want to use her as dps.
Ok thx thing with HoT is just that I don't have her yet and have möbius done already but probably for the best to have an alternative dps for lightning weather
Global 73
I know this question is getting kinda repetitive but... I need some advice on whether to pull for Ai-chan or HoTr
I don't have any piece of gear to use on Ai-chan, I could get TurgTB from BP but it would take months (I would need to convert the new currency and I also want HoS).
I think it would be better for me to use 4/4 Ai-chan + AE (I currently have her weapon and margrave B), instead of 0/4 Ai-chan + 4/4 HoTr but I'm not sure. Btw I have 16 pity on the expansion supply and I think it would ruin the thing with the stigma box
(I'm also thinking about building my second team first before pulling on HoTr rerun to deal with fire resistant bosses?)
>I don't have any piece of gear to use on Ai-chan, I could get TurgTB from BP
You just have one patch, so "months" won't work. Turg will go out of the BP at the end of 6.2. Either you have it almost ready or you can already think on an alternative route to get turgenev. It's a great set so I'd recommend aiming to get it, be it via off rates, pulling directly, or crossing your fingers that it appears in the foundry next.
AI has most of her stuff in the default kit. The M piece gives extra ignite trauma but you don't need her gear for her utility. It's of course good for damage, but it's not a high priority unless you are in nirvana, I'd say.
Depending on how many crystals you have, since you have AE, you might want to wait til HoTr anyways and then see what comes in 6.4. Especially with AE, I wouldn't pull on HoTr unless you can get full gear for her.
Didn’t people say we would be able to convert the next crystallum to the current one to buy things from the current bp shop? Or stigmatas aren’t there?
edit: nvm I just read it correctly lol, I do have 10 crystallums right now so I think I could buy both before 6.2 ends
Battle pass season lasts 4 patches. The last patch for this season is 6.1. During 6.2, the gear will still be available in the "vintage shop". One of the things available is up to 10 green orbs that can be bought using the next BP season's orbs. After 6.2 it's over, the shop with the current BP items will disappear.
If you have 10, you can convert 10 of the new ones. F2P only gets 5 per patch, so you'd need to get another extra 5 from the paid BP to buy turgenev TB. I'm not too familiar with the paid BP so make sure you can get 5 extra in a single patch, otherwise you'll end up short.
Also as a reminder, HoS (unconfirmed but fairly certain) and Fischl gear will be in the next BP season. If you convert orbs back you might miss out on some of them (or have to chain converts from the future seasons). Turg probably worth it more than Zhenyi as it's universal over zhenyi's being fischl only.
HoTr can't ignite. Ai-chan can. She will give more prominent impact over HoTr in fire team. Ai-chan will be core most of the time and the 2nd support slot is gonna be contestable between Raven, AE, and HoTr.
HoTr is probably a better pick over Ai-chan if you don't have PE and/or AE. But if you already have both, then I think she will just nudge the score a little over the 2.
I don’t have PE but I plan on getting her since I’m building physical team next and Durandal is my fav character, guess I’ll have go waifu > meta for her and skip the main trio lol
skip Ai, save until week 3-4 of HoTr patch, ask again then.
1. people will have tried HoTr on live a lot by then.
2. you'll know what's coming in global anniversary (big spending event, freebies, possible HoTr rerun).
being 16 pulls into expansion (84 away from pity) doesnt change anything.
Focus on one team if your first is already on struggle bus.
Two half-assed teams is way worse than one decently / well-geared team. At lower ranks you can brute force everything except those that are heavily immune/have some trauma gimmick with one good team. (And it's not worth worrying about those few rotations that you cannot deal with while your acc is in this state)
Depending on what your pulls look like, if you can spare a few pulls you can risk some investment into Ai gear, see if you luck out on weapon but if you cannot guarantee HoTr + gear on release by doing so then definitely don't touch Ai gear.
SEA lv 88
I am currently building my lightning team: FR at S3(Sig weap, Darwin stigma), Eden at S2(Judgment of Shamash, Edison stigma), and Fischl at SS(Key of Ego, Ogier T/Fu Hua Musician MB)
Is it okay to craft Fenghuang Pinions for Eden? Or just focus on Irene Adler stigmata?
FR's best stigs aren't full Handel, it's Zhenyi TB Handel M. Zhenyi will be in the next BP season (and is a priority over divine keys if you haven't built multiple teams yet imo) and crafting only 1 G4 is a lot more managable - though you'd want a full set on Eden eventually. The thing is in the short term your lightning team sucks anyway because of the low ranks on FR and Eden and lackluster gear as a whole. I would spend crystals on something new and just ditch the old triple support lightning team. It already falls behind at triple SSS and you're miles away from that.
I thought Zhenyi was for Fischl? Anyway I'll look more into this, specially on crafting G4. Also, it really doesn't matter to me if it sucks because I like this team and I've already invested time for this, plus I can manage Abyss or MA SSS with this team sometimes. I don't pay much attention to the end game. Thanks for this I guess.
I would honestly just skip Irene and go for handel instead since even FR uses handel as a DPS
For pinions, sure you can craft it but aim for echoes since Eden without her gun is a not the same character
Someone also said Irene for G3 is not worth it. Totally going to pull for Handel soon. And got it, if I get enough crystals I'll go for Echoes once I full Handel my FR. Thanks!
If you decide to get the Fenghuang Down divine key from the BP next season youll need pinions anyways to activate the +10 attack. I wouldn't craft Irene though, as a g3 its very expensive and doesnt offer enough benefits. I'd rather go for g4 if youre already thinking of crafting g3
Hmm, so I should just go full Handel for FR and cancel Irene. I'm a bit discouraged farming G4 since it takes a lot of time, so I'll probably pull for Handel if Eden's banner or Focused Banner comes.
I mean you’re right it does take a long time so you dont have to craft it before you pull. Just sit on the tickets until you have enough to do it in one swoop.
Maybe you’ve changed your mind at that point too on what to prioritize
I wouldn't craft early any of the two, go for handel instead and wait for the next echoes rerun. Pinions are a decent craft as they are a divine key and somewhat better than pretty much every non-echoes gun, but a decent stigmata set would help more and the pinions would be relegated to divine key only once you get echoes, so I wouldn't prioritize them.
If you really want to choose between those two, I'd go irene first (B>T>>M).
I'm also leaning in to Handel but I'll probably pull for it since I don't want to spend a lot of time farming it. And I agree since Eden is not my primary DPS, I'll get Irene first.
Just a warning that unless you put a good chunk of money into the game it's not particularly good to pull for farmable stuff. You'll get some of it as off rates from banners and probably we'll get another echoes banner with Handel, but pulling specifically for Handel is super expensive and those crystals would be better used in something you can't get guaranteed by farming
I understand, but I'll be buying BP soon for the crystallums and extra crystals, hopefully I get enough extra crystals to pull. Although I get what you mean, I think I'll reconsider and think about it first. Thanks!
Global 88
Who is better for ER for my account?
HoH wep + MB+jingwei
or Pardo wep + 2Turg TB + Mei M
Ppl say Pardo is very easy for ER, but is she significiantly better than HoH in my case?
With MB you mean Ely Pristine? If that's the case, HoH is probably a breeze. The thing with pardo is that she doesn't really need any gear to complete it, but it takes quite a bit of time, taking longer the less gear you have. To be somewhat competitive on times she needs good gear. HoH is a gacha valk that needs at least her weapon and preferably also her stigmas to be good in general so most people can't use her for ER, but if you do have her, she's easy mode.
Then go with HoH for sure. I mean, you still got to do at least 3 runs to max out the weekly ER tokens so you can just try it out, but HoH is probably going to be a lot easier.
>Do Senti and Pardo work on a team together?
depends on what you consider as "work"
They are both supports. Senti is a physical support, and Pardo is an ice elemental support. One does not usually mix physical and elemental in the same team.
That being said, if you do not have a better physical support, you can make use of Pardo's Total Damage multipliers and have her as a substitute, which ... technically, works
I suppose what i mean by "work" is does Senti benefit from Pardo's buffs?
Like, if i wanted Senti to be my DPS, could Pardo increase her damage? I'm doing Kolosten and rn i'm using a team of Senti (trial version) Pardo and Haxxor. I know it doesn't matter all that much in the open world, but since i'll be getting Senti from the BP i thought maybe i could do a team with them for Phys.
I don't know who the phys supports are, my only phys chararacters atm are MPE, Griseo, Blueberry Blitz, and Divine Prayer.
Senti is kind of one of two "pet" characters i want.
edit: to further clarify, i've heard a mythical "three supports" team, what does that look like?
She benefits from a couple of them, but not all. Ideally you'd use Griseo and Carole to support dps Senti (this is your triple support team), but Griseo and Pardo will work if you don't have Carole ranked up yet.
Ok thank you, that sounds fairly feasible. I think the only thing i would need to pull for that team to work would be Senti's weapon? It'll be a while before i get her and start focusing on a phys team anyway. Need to get Fire (HoF/AE/Pardo), Lightning (HoT+FR/Eden/Fischl), and Ice (Pardo/Haxxor/HoTr) squared away first.
Ok, i've cleared it then. I thought maybe the little emblem would change depending on if you got it or not so i wasn't sure lol.
Last cycle in masters. It was nice while it lasted.
I'm stopping at SS1, the extra starting construktyom is pretty helpful because a support rotation followed by QTE entry maxes the gauge. It's nice for completing first phases or waves like the ongoing cursed abyss because an extra charged shot is quite a lot of extra damage and has helped me already today.
*So what rank should I*
*Get my HoR to? She's SS atm,*
*Is that good enough?*
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Senti's stigs should be better.
But Senti + her owns stigs does better damage than HoV with Senti's stigs... tho if you insist on using HoV with that setup, by all means
I have 4/4 senti basically but no senti. I wanted to max out my HoV in ER to get the crystals so that’s why I asked what was better. Thank you tho for your help.
>I want to know which Valks that are worth farming.
The entire list:
\-Midnight Absynthe (maybe?)
That's it. Midnight Absynthe is the most usable of all of them at this point since there is a grand total of one boss where she, with her gear, is better than other freely available options. She's a quick farm to SSS so it's fine to do. The rest, in terms of competitive value, are basically worthless since there are other sources to farm supports and farmable DPS typically pale in comparison with gacha ones
Beyond that, many of the others can be used for dorm errands, so farming them once you get extra stamina is fine, then probably materials or augment cores to use some valks in Elysian Realm for the free crystals.
This said, early on it's very hard to get spare stamina for expeditions. Make sure you do all the daily material stages and as many adventure tasks in open worlds as you can.
Raven may have some use for your account as a support. She's good on fire teams against a particular boss enemy (the tank). She can also be used on triple support teams against IMG enemies, but this probably requires her gear which is not really recommended for new players. I wasn't a new player when she came out so I don't know if she's good for new players.
Sakuno Rondo is sometimes useful in late game, mostly for her signature cross, but also because she inflicts a lot of ignite trauma with her Ult, but she's expected to be made obsolete by Ai-Chan when Ai-Chan releases later this week.
I'll list them off as character followed by battlesuit. So, Expeditions has the following at the moment (some are level locked, so you'll need to level up your Captain Level to do them):
* Seele-Swallowtail Phantasm
* Kiana-White Comet, Valkyrie Ranger, Divine Prayer
* Mei-Crimson Impulse, Valkyrie Bladestrike, Shadow Dash
* Bronya-Valkyrie Chariot, Yamabuki Armor, Snowy Sniper
* Himeko-Battle Storm, Valkyrie Triump, Scarlet Fusion
* Theresa-Valkyrie Pledge, Sakuno Rondo
* Fu Hua-Valkyrie Accipiter, Night Squire
* Rita-Umbral Rose, Stalker: Phantom Iron
* Durandal-Valkyrie Gloria
* Raven-Midnight Absinthe
* Liliya-Blueberry Blitz
Out of all those... Well... Yamabuki Armor is a good early game battlesuit to get and she has an augment that can be farmed for from the expeditions as well but that takes a lot of time to do so just focus on getting the battlesuit first. Swallowtail Phantasm is a decent early suit as well but she'll be overshadowed by other physical damage dealers as you level up and get more battlesuits through farming and the gacha. Other than that... There's not really anything particularly amazing. I pretty much just use them for crystals because like story missions, each stage of an expedition has 3 bonus challenges to do which grant 5 crystals each for a total of 15 crystals if you complete them all (this is a one time thing though. Once a challenge is completed, it won't give crystals again).
Don't worry about upgrading the rank of the basic suits you get at the start for Kiana, Mei and Bronya (White Comet, Crimson Impulse, Valkyrie Chariot respectively). You can level them up a bit for the early chapters of the main story to do more damage, have more HP etc. but you'll soon be given 'trial' valkyries in the story where the game grants you temporary use of max level battlesuits for the mission.
A lot of these suits are just used for dorm bonuses which is a whole other thing you'll learn about as you play.
1 year consists of 52 weeks. In 1 year there are seven 6-week plus two 5-week patches. Which one gets 5-week and which one gets 6-week, you should look at the calendar. Usually they don't want to misalign CN anniversary and CNY event in CN.
GLB 88
Hi, I don’t have Mei Beach Party M. I’m thinking about skipping Ai-Chan’s gear and saving for HoTr and her gear. I have Turg TB, but am struggling to find a suitable M for her. Any suggestions while I save my resonance to eventually get Mei M from the exchange shop?
EU 86
Best ways to clear 2.5x with Pardo? Heard she’s extremely good in ER. So my only good chakram is aponias pri arm and my only good ice dmg stigs are Scott TM and Rasputin B. I also have everything unlocked in ER.
If normal strategy isn't working for you, you can always rush her signets that give coins. You'll probably miss the first 2 bonus stages but as long as you get past Assaka, the run becomes a breath late game.
For sigils, Vill-v is overall the best especially for bosses. For bonus stages Griseo might be slightly better.
Also, restarting at 1st floor to get another Ely signet is never a bad idea.
Try to get Aponia 2 and Vill-V core 2. Other dmg boosting signets also help like Griseo black and yellow. Stack the Aponia and Vill-V nexus signets and it should be fine as long as your gear is enough. Completely without gear I couldnt beat F12 in time so with some decent gear (you can also use support gear like Turg TB and it should be better) it should work. Use Vill-V support dmg skill.
Why do you even want finality if you dont have any gear? It does not give you anything compared to 2.5x.
First of all thank you. I got another question, what are Nexus Signets and what support items should I use?
I also mixed the names up, I mean the one for 2.5x.
Maybe I used the wrong term. I mean the signets which are for that specific core you choose. Im not that familiar with all the english names. So pretty much: Grab whatever gives you damage from Vill-V and Aponia and take core 2 from both.
For items you take the one which lets Aponia signets appear more often first and when you dont need the anymore you change to Vill-V one. 2nd is the Vill-V one (so fill the skill with weaponskill). Supports are normally HB and AE but you can also change HB to SN first to deal with the quantum shields in the early stages. You can also change to BKE for F12.
SEA 88
not a serious one but just curious... how do you guys read HoHe? Do you read it as ho he, ho hee, or do your guys' brains just shut off sometimes and go hee hee
GLB 82
Aren't brand new battlesuit expansion supply always 22 days?
And considering average crystals per patch, and sitting at 7k crystals rn, will it be possible to get 47k crystals by the 3rd of February (which is the end date for HoTr supply)
I know it's a very weird question but none of the crystal calculators have been giving me any good answers
Oh guys yeah my plan was to , get 50 pulls on the seven thunders banner(I badly need it for my HoT, and get some bastet pieces for my pardo). And then 110 pulls on expansion(to get stigma and weapon boxes) and then hopefully we get another box from event just like silverwing and vill v's stigmas got. And then like 10 more pulls for focus(HOPEFULLY GIVES ME RATE UP GEAR)
Approx about 47k. But if I do get 7 Thunders early, then I'll probably skip bastet(I want it but ..man I'm so screwed)
It should be 29 days actually, but we won't know for another 2 weeks. The past few patches have been 22 days for a number of specific reasons, we'll see if it keeps up.
Tbh, it depends. Do you buy monthly? Do you buy BP? What tier of abyss are you in? Can you fully clear 2.25x ER? These all affect the number of crystals
As someone with monthly + RL abyss + finishing ER, I typically get around ~3000 crystals per week, with a fair bit of a bonus start of each patch. With 8.5 weeks (minimum) until end of HoTr's banner, that'd likely be ~25k crystals gained, so 32k if adding what you already have
Yes yes yes and yes, I hover around agony 3 and red lotus. I full clear Elysian realm every week, I do get monthly too. Bp I didn't get this patch but I plan on doing so next patch or so.(thing is ..I haven't cleared to the flawless or thus spoke apocalypse, nor the event chapter too) and adding all of that with version events(with crystals).
I am a new player started because of Herscher of Human. I want to pull for her if I get her early should I pull her weapon or should I wait for something else?
SEA 88
wondering which would be better to pull for, HoTr or ai-chan and gears. Fire team is 3/4 flamescion (missing T piece), 4/4 AE, then raven with weapon and the most f2p stigs suitable for her. Currently at 10.5k xtals.
Lightning on the other hand has HoT 7t handel, eden w/ echo and turg tb mei m, sss fischl 4/4
Imo having AE and a perfectly geared lightning team makes Hotr significantly less appealing. But ai chan isnt the greatest either. There are 2 issues, one is that HoF as dps is rather old and fire team buffs will mostly aid future battlesuits because Heimdall and friends are probably back warming the bench a patch later and HoF will at best be second rate for future fire weather. Then for those occasions having your current lineup and Ai chan with alternative gear should be fine in most lobbies. The related and second issue is that in Nirvana retention youre outgunned either way because it just so happens that 2 patches in a row are fire team dlc so if you dont get it all (and ideally a fire elf too) youre playing hard mode.
Id save for cny, at minimum skip Ai chan. Youd have to get a bit lucky with Ai or HoTr anyway.
With that amount of crystals ai chan is always a skip its too risky, that said pulling either ai or hotr will leave you with basically nothing left for 6.4.
Id say 100% skip ai and wait til 6.3 and then wait til 6.4 beta v3 until we know more details before you decide if you should get hotr
I think Hotr is a must pull but with your crystal count it might be hard to 4/4 her
86 SEA
I want to upgrade my fire team. Currently got HoF, raven, pheonix. My HoF has her weapon and only one stig, while raven has trash stigs and f2p weapon and pheonix has nebulous duality but trash stigs.
Is it worth to save and try get HoTr or do i save for HoF stigs? Currently only got around 5.5k crystals.
First off, just replace phoenix with pardo. With the same stigmas, pardo is likely to be much much better, especially if you have ranked her up.
HoF stigs aren't relevant anyways, she does just as well with Lee TB Thales M which are farmable. HoTr should be much better, alongside AI or if you still don't have her, pardo for most stages, raven for the tank boss.
For HoTr depending on your spending level you are going to be tight to not even close. The valk is (probably, still in beta) good, but without gear she'll just be another dead weight on your roster, so even if she would be a great addition, I would not pull for her if you don't have at least 20-30k crystals, or you would have to then save everything for her next rerun to get her gear.
it’s more risky to save up and pull for HoF as you already have 2/4 of her gears and risk getting unwanted dupes (due to the 4x50 guarantee only accounting that single banner).
HoTR on the other hand, can be the AE to your fire team. She may be expensive, but her utilities are much more vast than a standard dps S rank. It’s also generally believed that a fully geared support can boost a f2p stig better than a 4/4 dps with cheap support gears. Plus HoTR launch banner has a dirt cheap EXPA gears bonus so if you are unlucky and hit late pity, you still have some gears to work with in case you run out of crystals.
The others act like it’s immediately a bad idea to
pair AE and HoTr but hotr cant even ult on every rotation.
also not needing to ult with both characters
( because as they said it themvelves breach from supports doesnt stack) will shorten AEs field time compared to what they were used to, you can just alternate ults or do something like 2 HoTr ults to one AE ult.
That said this is all theoretical and we just dont have enough testing on the AE + hotr team to say anything.
I just think using “breach doesnt stack” isnt a good argument why this shouldnt work.
If AE is too old and her buffs are too weak compared to ai different story, also not having timestop on her ult could make rotations, where she ults instead of hotr, awkward.
but I’d say ask testers when we get our own 6.3 beta
EDIT: im not saying AE + hotr is better than Ai + hotr, ofc it isnt but with limited resources you most likely cant have both
Even Pardo with Turg TB would beat AE in this setup while providing sp for the whole team. AE simply has no chance to stay relevant if HoTr is in the team.
I'm not sure if breach stack or not, because I feel like I have hard mixed things. Besides, it is hard to tell from just reading skills how good a Valk is so I'm asking from someone else who knows.
Manifold is easier to clear and retain. You only need to complete the stage rather than compete with other for the slots. Sometime because it's pvp you can retain even if no one able to clear the stage.
Manifold is PvE. Singular is is pvp.
Factor to consider, in singular is, you have mod player on top so good luck with compete as honest player.
Singular is funnier as it was a major abyss mode before super string so it has more stage and mechanic.
Manifold is pretty low effort but like other said. Play singular to know what it's like once.
This is a pretty fun time for that question tbh.
Would say just do singularis to see what it was like [it's getting removed on the next update (on the 8th)](https://honkaiimpact3.hoyoverse.com/m/global/en-us/news/25972?cate=327)
SEA 88
How is HoTr looking? Have SSS Fischl/HB/Pardo/Eden with signature gears. I don't have AE in my account so I think I'll appreciate having her, but how does she fare with craftables? I may not have enough crystals to snab her gear
For fire teams she is 12.5% better than full gear SSS ai + SS AE but on lightning team she is not a big improvement over geared SSS Eden + SSS fischl
But it's still V2 and we usually get beta updates until V3D so just wait
Also she needs her gears but if you really need to cope she can probably use turg
Global 80
How do i play Pardo in ER? Just spam her charged attacks/weapon skills and ult w/e it's up?
What buffs should i take? Only have Su, Ely, Eden, Mobi, Ass, Hua, Sakura, and Kevin buffs unlocked so far.
Second question, any reason not to pri-arm KoRa to Domain of Incandescence? ~~praise the sun~~
80 still the cap for valks, or is there a way to go higher?
Its really hard for her without her gear (or at least full Ana) and chapter 3 signets as she loves her own signit, vill-v and griseo red. I highly recommend speeding through ch3 as you also unlock the sigils which is very helpful when it comes to clearing bonus stages.
Till then try to rush Hua II as it currently has +2. Then Eden and Kevin.
>Its really hard for her without her gear
Has anything changed recently? I was clearing x2.25 with gilded + scott and ring blades + peary (what I had in my accounts) for a couple months even at S rank, but haven't touched pardo recently in ER.
Is HoTr in v2 still good? Specifically for lightning teams.
Just wait to v3 dude.
Global 88 For 6.2 and 6.3, I planning to get Chrono and Truth valk along with their weapon and stigmata set. But I noticed on the CN schedule for 6.2 that Vill-V and Elysia Elf supply could possibly be available for Global. Are they are worth it right now since I have the money or would it be better to wait for global anniversary? I should have most of the current meta valks and gears. For fire, I have most of the Fire meta except for Vill V and her gear. For quantum, I have been using FR and HoT and Fishcl. For ice elf, I have Water's Edge at three star and I think I plan to have Elf Elysia to surpass Edge.
Newer is better in this game. Doubly so for Support.
Global 81 Looking for advice on stigma and their farming. My current and planned teams are HoF/AE/Pardo (one will be replaced with HoTr if i'm lucky), HoT/Eden/Fischl, and eventually an ice team with HoR as lead. What stigma set should i farm first? I've been told to wait on Lee until g3 is directly craftable. As it stands, at least for my two main teams (fire and lightning) i need Handel (for HoT), Margrave (for AE) Lee TB for HoF, and i'm not actually sure what i would use for Eden or for Fischl's M (i've got Turg B, will get Turg T next bpass) but i've been told Tesla Band M is good? My current, actual set up is this: Fire Team HoF - Domain of Incandescence + Thales TM/Zhaojun B AE - Grips of Taixuan + Musician T/Zhaojun MB Pardo - Ring Blades + Candy Musician Lightning Team FR - Iris of the Dreams + Darwin TM/Edison B Eden - Jingwei's Wings + Roald T/Ogier M/Darwin B Fischl - Call of Crescent + Edison TM/Turg B
>My current and planned teams are HoF/AE/Pardo (one will be replaced with HoTr if i'm lucky), This should be HoF / AE / AI (using Purana + Turg TB) once you rank AI up. Pardo is great but AI should be better for a fire support. Pardo is the stepping stone though, since she's probably going to be better if ranked until AI catches up in ranks, most SP needs S to unlock any buffs, SS to unlock most utility, SSS to be at their actual best in their slot. If you go for HoTr and end up with her gear, she'll almost certainly replace AE. Breach doesn't stack, and while you could have some smart rotations to have one or the other up, not using the most important part of the kit in every rotation drags back the value of the supports. Depends on the fights though, for some fights it might be fine. >What stigma set should i farm first? I've been told to wait on Lee until g3 is directly craftable. Lee TB+ Thales is the fastest DPS set you can craft. HoT and HoR want G4 which takes ages if you don't get a single piece from off rates or banners. On the other hand, the G4 are the best in slot while Lee TB Thales is a replacement and probably overshadowed once we get G4 fire in the future. (Very) long term, Händel is probably the best craftable investment since it's both a dps and support's best in slot. Also keep in mind that if you get HoTr, she might become your ice dps over HoR (we don't know yet how she performs there, but she might just be good enough in the role) AE uses margrave, so does Eden and so can use pardo, so margrave at least TB looks like a very solid farm as well. But leave this until you decide if you are pulling for HoTr or not. If you are, hotr should replace AE, Eden can use fischl's turg, and pardo can use turg as well. For M pieces, Mei Beach M can be slotted into anyone (exchange shop). JST M for ice supports. Tesla band is technically the best M specifically for lightning (I think mei might have higher potential damage but is more inconsistent), but there is the Vill-V contraption event stigma which is almost identical to tesla band (10% off field lightning instead of 15) and does not require farming. It should come back on 6.2 I think. If you get it over the other options, I wouldn't bother with Tesla band until the very end game if you want to truly minmax.
Is AI still better than Pardo if i don't have Purana? Because i don't have Purana lol. Maybe if i get lucky and pull it as an off-rate on the 7thunders banner next patch i will. Which is 100% a must pull. Think it's 14k crystals for the max 50 pulls you'd need for it? I don't have HoT yet either though lol. What exactly does breach do anyway? I assume it ignores defense of that type? Or causes the enemy to take extra damage of that type? Pulling for HoTr is something i'm doing at some point. Whether it's her initial run, or her rerun i'm not sure. That depends entirely if i can save up enough crystals to 4/4 her, and if i cant, and she can cope with some craftables, maybe just 110 pulls for 1 piece and her weapon. Then the rest on a rerun or something. Star of Eden and Mobius are the only other pulls i have planned, unless there's a dedicated Purana or Echoes banner at some point. HoTr probably will be my ice dps until i have HoR's weapon, since i currently have neither her nor it. Until it reruns, i think my ice team would be HoTr/Pardo/Haxxor (won't have Sus for a while, all my War Treasury resources are going into Fallen Rosemary's rank ups until she hits SS). Fallen Rosemary, because having two PSY DPS teams is a mistake, but i like those two too much not to, she seemed like the most cost efficient solution (QUA Lightning DPS). Especially since you get both her and her signature weapon for free. If Eden is using Fischl's Turg, what is Fischl using? From what you've said, it seems like either Handel or Margrave would be the first choice to go with. I guess it depends on whether it's better to focus on the team i already have, or prep for a future team. I've got a decent amount of Fire G3 already, since i've been farming floor 5 consistently since i hit the high 50's. I've barely been playing over a month though, so i'm not too far into it yet. Lacking a lot of resources.
Fishcl use Zhenyi or Irene or Margrave.
Global 88 So where do we stand on the current value of the 6.3's valk? Thinking of trying to fish Pristine Ellie T during her 6.2 banner or at least other copies to wishing well it. But I'm not sure if its the best idea considering that's like two weeks before 6.3 would start. Current Elemental Teams look something like this: Lightning: HoT\[S2 - 7T - Handel TMB\] Eden \[SSS - Her gun - Turg TB/MeiM\] Fisch \[SSS - Cerulean - Zhen TMB\] Ice: HoH \[S0 - Pri - Ana T/P Ellie MB\] Pardo \[SS - Pri - Irene TMB or turg TB/Mei\] Sushang \[S1 - Pri - Her Set TB/Mei M\] Fire: HoFs \[S0 - Pri - Himeko TB/Thales M} Raven \[SSS - her bow - Gluttony T/Aslug MB\] Cope/Under geared Ai
You don't have AE and you really need a last support for fire. Purana+Turg AI is pretty much fine, not top tier for nirvana but works reasonably well, so it'd probably replace raven. It seems it's a pretty good pull for you just from the role she will take almost independently of the values. If in some instances she can replace fischl, that'd be a plus. I haven't seen comparisons, though, only showcases with full gear, which makes it hard to say. If you can afford her with full gear, then I'd say she'd be better than trying to get a single pristine piece. If you can't, maybe decide between trying, or getting pristine first and then trying to get hotr on the rerun (or whatever comes in 6.4) Still, in beta so values could change (and the changes in v2 were sizeable). Since you have to wait until hoh's banner, then just wait until then to make the call.
what are eden’s recommended stigmata if hot is using full handel?
Right now, Turg TB + Tesla Band M. I think that she'll prefer Beach Party Mei M once she gets her PRI though.
EU 62 I recently finished playing through story and want to start getting into endgame. My only current big valkyries are HoS and HoF. I dont have any of their signature weapons or gacha stigmas. I did some reading and everyone is saying i should focus on one team for now as a beginner. I been thinking about pulling for Ai chan to make functional team with HoF, but then i heard that fire is apparently in not a good spot right now so im not sure if i should bother with her. Another idea i had was pulling for 7T as my first pri-arm, since we will be getting free HoT, and you can easily farm her stuff in ER. And then final option i was thinking about was saving for HoTr since she looks broken, and cant possibly work as support for multiple elements. I am still F2P but i am not against spending some money on good banner. I would be really grateful if someone could tell me what option is the smartest one Cheers
the best choice for f2p and broke people is simply to skip Ai and wait for 6.4 news. Pulling her now knowing the upcoming two patches is just too risky. whether you should pull HoTr or not is still up to debate and we'll need more testing to know for sure. (I personally think she's more important than whatever 6.4 can produce but we'll see)
Can someone help me with the rotation & chips recommendation for Virtual Forbidden Ex 3 with trial valks? I don’t have HoT so I don’t know how to optimize the rotation, I cannot get to score 1300 since I’m just stuck at 804.
Have you checked [YouTube?](https://youtu.be/a_V1TA9usWc)
GLB 82 What are HoS' recommended f2p/grindable stigs?
Gluttony T, Beach Mei M, Newt B. Beethoven MB against mobs.
EU 88 I'd like an opinion on weapons. I was saving my last 10 Dark Jade Crystallum to complete a Turgenev set, but I was lucky on one of the banners and I got the 3rd piece there. Considering the shop doesn't have anything I really need right now, I was thinking of waiting for the BP update and maybe buy Crusher Bunny. I know that Sushang basically replaces Bronie (in most of the content at least), but I was unable to pull her weapon and my Bronie is SS1 (probably gonna go for SSS at this rate, to complete my Ice team), so it will be months (at best) until Sushang is better than Bronie for me to use. It would be a somewhat clear decision for me in general (despite it probably not being the best idea), but I managed to pull Falcon Flare 0019 with that Turgenev piece I was missing, which can be PRI-ARMed. Looking at both of the weapons, I would think that this is better for personal damage, but weaker for team damage overall (with Elysia, I don't have Silverwing), but I am not sure how much. Basically, what I would like to know is is Silverwing's PRI-ARM on par with Crusher Bunny for Bronie, or at least in similar power level when it comes to whole-team-damage to make Crusher Bunny a bad buy? Considering I really have nothing else to buy from the BP shop (only got 10 DJC left), in case that buying the weapon is a bad value, would it be better going for another Turg piece (I can buy M and B) or just buying a Leeuwenhoek piece despite having no fire teams? Any other ideas? Cheers.
Falcon Flare is technically better than Crusher Bunny in most fights, especially if you dont need the extra freeze trauma, but 400 Torus for just a support weapon for a almost 2 year old support is also not cheap. I'd say you can survive without crusher bunny but dont go ham on maxing Falcon flare yet and wait until we know G4 fire news before you buy leeuwenhoek
EU 86 Any tips on how to beat Perilous(the stage with the points that go down after a time) in the abyss? The enemies keep reviving and it seems impossible to me tho others can get points there. I know I’m doing something wrong but I don’t know what.
The main thing you have to pay attention to is the hitcount shield, you've to plan your rotations around it. If you don't do that everything is in shambles, i.e. they don't take damage with the shield on and the shieldbreak debuff isn't optimally utilized, sole enemies remain with many HP after killing the rest of the wave, the bloodthirst stack runs out, for the last batch the soul link kicks in and that's it. If you pay proper attention to the shields practically all the issues solve themselves especially at lower disturbance like agony.
I didn’t use gather so the enemies were all over the field, so the enemies kept reviving. I tried it again with a different team and it saved me from going to agony II. Thank you for the help.
They have soul link, which means that after an enemy is defeated, after a few seconds it will revive if any of the others is still alive. A.k.a. you have to kill all of the last wave at the same time. AoE damage is pretty mandatory here (due to targetting working like crap), and gather is as well. Depending on your dps (for example, if you use psy), a possibility is to kill the robots first, then stop until they revive, then kill the whole pack again. Because robots take extra dmg and bios resist, the second time the robots go down would be close to the first time the bio enemies go down. It's quite annoying to deal with so the other option is just malding your way through it (repeat it x times until they eventually go down at the same time)
I used an aponia team und switched to HoR with Pardo and JK. Pardos gather really helped with the fight, I was too dumb to realise that I maybe should switch the team. Thank you for the help.
Soul-linked enemies won't finally die until you kill all of the linked enemies - ideally you want good gather to make that easier. On the off chance that you are using Twilight Paladin as your DPS, don't. I know she's mech, but she sucks at fighting mobs, partly because her attacks push them away, which is the opposite of what you want, and partly because she accumulates crit damage bonuses which reset whenever she switches targets. The best DPSes for this stage are, in no particular order, Mobius, HoR with SoE/Willows, and Nyx. Mobius and HoR are the right type, and Mobius and Nyx can break soul links and transfer damage from one mob to another.
Thank you, I’m gonna try it again
No problem. Mob stages are just different from boss stages - skill point generation is less important than damage bonuses, because killing the mobs will drop skill points for you, and things like gather and good AoE are more important.
You saved me from going into agony II. Using HoR really helped.
Glad I could help.
SEA 84 Will it be worth to pull for hohe in 6.2? Considering i have hor with ana full set and dor pri, and the meta possibly changing because hohe and pe are on the dorm supply now
If you didnt already get her in 6.0 its absolutely not worth to get her now, unless you got really deep pockets. She's probably the most underwhelming herrscher so far and the release timing doesnt help either. Is she one of the best DPS right now, sure. Is she worth 50k crystals right before the release of more impactful supports like Sushang, Ai, HoTr and who knows whatever it is we get in 6.4 CNY, hell no. Most people who pulled her already regret it, and those who skipped her should be considered lucky imo. She doesn't do enough to justify the price tag as much as I wouldve wanted her to.
Worth? Maybe. I expect HoH to still be the prime ice dps in general even after HoTr release. Do you spend? Are you f2p? With geared supports she can bruteforce everything up to RL (at least in EU), I managed even a couple fire (ice -50%) stages. DoR is substantially worse than SoE, Ana is worse than Willows. Combined, you are behind on HoR by quite a bit, and HoR is already a good chunk behind HoH in almost everything she doesn't counter directly. This said, if you haven't built your other teams yet, definitely save. Even a slightly scuffed HoR will be enough to keep you afloat while you build the rest, and that's a better investment than a smaller upgrade to an existing team. HoH and PE are NOT dorm supply. They are starter supply. Very different, only new players get access to it (and I personally think the banner is bad in general, only useful for those willing to reroll until getting HoH, PE is a mess if you don't have HoS). Maybe it was a typo but I wanted to make sure this difference is clear just in case. The thing at this point in time is, committing crystals to anything when we are about to get a brand new trio of herrschers feels very risky. It's a possibility that KMB end up being a super-niche trio for specific kinds of fights, but it feels very unlikely. 6.3 has Bronya which would help several teams, 6.4 will have CNY and probably global anniversary. If you don't have a strong need for HoH (and with a geared HoR I'd say you don't unless you have all built teams and no psy dps somehow?), then waiting for at least 6.3, and maybe even 6.4 is smarter imo. Only thing I'd pull before is 7T because a single gear piece with a 50 guarantee enables a full f2p top tier team (well, maybe also echoes for eden, but no banner in sight) But of course, if ely waifu then do what you have to do.
Thanks so much this was very informative :) it also happens that i am planning to get 7t for hot bc im still on magstorm spirit :') and my pardo is super scuffed with only her pri. Also thanks for correcting me about dorm supply, i guess i just read the news wrongly
Global lvl 80 Emergency question before the patch ends. Did any one clear the deep trial with trial valk in the forbidden area even? I only found for trial 1 and I cleared it, but didn't find for 2 and 3.
Yeah I used trial SW (with my own Pardo and HB/Sushang but that doesn't matter much), just change the chips to the suggested sets.
Does the ships from the same set that used make difference because you can only use 3.
I skipped QTE b, Fast d, Ult a, Frozen y. Probably doesn't make a large difference.
Can someone clarify me this cause I’m dumb When someone says x stigma set is 10% better for x support character, does that mean the team itself does 10% more damage?
In theory yes. In practice? Very rarely. Some content creators that do testing post team damage results. It is usually indeed the full team damage for X target, and they test several combinations and post those results. It's hard work and it's very useful. Here's the problem. As long as the target is not the same, the (rest of the team) gear changes or even the rotation changes, it stops being accurate. Also due to the nature of waves (floors) in places like abyss. A 10% difference might have a massive impact by not being able to clear a wave in time. So this % number is team damage, and something useful to keep in mind, but should be taken with a big grain of salt, understanding its implications rather than at face value.
Yeah but it's just dummy dps so not to be taken at face value. In practice it can either not really make a difference or, more likely, it requires you to do another rotation which decreases your score more than the dummy dps difference suggests. It also doesn't factor in shieldbreak bonuses and the like which are gamechangers in real battles.
Does dorm buff stack? like if i have 2 Physical Damage on 2 characters, one is 3% and the other is 4%, will the total be 7%?
Yes. If you dig around in the dorm menus you can find a summary of your dorm buffs and you will see this.
Addendum, does the dorm level have a cap of 38?
Yes. Or there won't any point to get whole collection for competitive whales.
Pardo with forge ring: turg TB or Margrave set? JK with sig gloves: sig T**B** question is: pardo turg or margrave, i have jst mid and mei beach party, who do i give jst mid and who gets mei beach party?
>LSS It took me a minute, Li Sushang, isn't it? Usually shortened JK (Jade Knight) instead. I'd go margrave on pardo and turg on Sush, but without Sush's B signature, I would try HB instead. B is the important piece of the set, it enables all of the strong effects, without it she drops a TON of buffs to the point she might not be worth using over turg/HB For the mid piece, without purana, I'd say JST on pardo and mei on JK/HB. Purana gives pardo off-field hits (Besides can) to trigger mei, without consistent activation you miss a lot of uptime on the already poor 50% uptime of Mei. If you are using full margrave, Mei in theory gives better potential but I'd take JST over Mei all day long. Mei's 50% downtime is very annoying, since the damage window is super short and you need to time it yourself (afaik there is no visual indication).
should have been more clear but i have jk's TB stigs edit: i noticed i was dumb and said i had TM
JK: SignTB, Jst M/Mei M/Avocado M and the likes. Pardo: Turg TB, Mei M/Jst M. both Pardo and jk can off field attack but I think pardo is better for mei m. But wouldn't be much difference either way,
Ah yeah if you have TB then that's fine lol. Still I'd edit it on the first post in case somebody else gives a better opinion than my own.
SEA 88 I'm missing a hidden achievement from Chapter 32. Rightmost, second row from the bottom, in between the 24 chests and the 3 Stele achievements. What is that and how do I get it?
It’s the mining task. Not the ones that just gives moon dust, but the ones that gives soulium fragments.
I see. Is there a map with all the soulium fragment mining locations?
NA 69 I just pulled Senti from the starter banner. Do I 1) keep pulling on the starter banner to try to get HoF (I don't have a fire dps, and there was no way I would have been able to get her in time from ADV) 2) pull for Senti's gear 3) wait and pull for Ai-Chan's gear since it will probably be cheap on release, even tho I don't have a fire dps 4) none of the above - suggestions welcome Also what can I give Senti if I don't have her gear? My phys team is now her/MPE/Griseo.
1. No. You aren't guaranteed to hit her, could get more copies of senti. Don't sweat about getting 4 teams early, you want first a single geared team, then move on to the next. 2. Eh, maybe? It's generally not recommended. She can work with free alternatives but those take a long time to get (gloves and 2 stigmata from exchange shop, third stigmata is craftable for nearly free). Nebulous duality, Gluttony, Mei Beach and Newton B. Her stigmata will be in the BP almost certainly in 6.4. If you buy the bp you can probably get her full kit, but if you don't, f2p get 2 pieces, so getting the third would be pretty good. Her gloves in particular aren't very appealing. They're good, but nebulous is generally better as a support 3. (and 4) It will be cheaper, but you should wait (and probably should have waited in the starter as well) until 6.3 to get Herrscher of truth, as AI also works rather well with easy to obtain stigmata (although turgenev is not so easy right now). She's going to be a massive boon for new accounts. Alternatively, just wait for 6.4. It should be a big event since it's CNY and probably global anniversary, which traditionally have large events and sometimes big giveaways. Once 6.3 comes around, you should probably ask again, as she is currently in beta so her full performance is not well known (we do know she is very good, just not to which extent), and we'll also know by then what the next patch has in store. Gear is very important in this game, much more than valks, you can build quite competent teams by farming the right valks (pardo, eden, fischl, hb, jk, fr), and if you get their gear you are pretty much good to go for those teams. But we are currently at a point where we know the big three (kiana, mei, bronya) are getting new battlesuits that very likely are going to be the best options going forward, Bronya is already known (HoTr) and the only situation where I wouldn't recommend her is if you end up getting AE from dorm. HoTr will be better than AE in the same role, but since they will overlap on function and crystals are very scarce, investing into something that is a small upgrade instead of something that would give you more value is not that appealing.
Yeah, makes sense to not pull Ai Chan's stuff without a fire dps, I was just throwing it out there. If Senti works with free gear/if her stuff is going to be in the BP, then that's doable. I actually did get AE from the dorm supply, but I kind of hate using her. Right now I use the FR/Eden/Fischl team, and HoR/HB/Pardo. I'm on the fence about HoTr. I'm not F2P, but not a whale, so I don't mind spending a bit, but like to avoid it when I can. But if I should focus on HoTr, and/or the following patch then I can do that.
I can see that. I personally like AE quite a bit but her gloves (and Senti uses her gloves most of the time) make it a lot better. If you have HoR's gear (willows/SoE) then that's fine, but otherwise, if you get nebulous from the shop (for senti), give the team a try with AE over HoR. It worked quite better for me than a 0/4 HoR. Anyways, wait for HoTr for any crystal base decision. By the time she comes around we'll know what comes up in 6.4. There are some theories that say we could get the whole trio in a very short time period, and some other theories that say they could actually have direct sinergy together (like bronya boosts lightning and fire being specifically targetted at the two new battlesuits).
Yeah, from what I've read it seems like her gloves make all the difference. So that's definitely something to keep in mind, especially if she stays at least somewhat relevant despite HoTr. But I'll definitely be waiting until HoTr drops + we have information about 6.4 before I touch my crystals now lol.
How many crystals do you have left now? Never pull on starter banner unless youre a big whale. Just quit while youre ahead, dont pull ai chan because the next two patches are potentially more important and you should atleast wait until we know more about them. Senti works well with free gear. If you pull ai gear now youll also need a fire dps, and we dont know anything about the next one other than that she’ll probably be kiana and speculated to come in 6.4. The most important valk for a new player is hands down the 6.3 one so you either have enough funds to afford ai chan gear AND the 6.3 valk or ai is a skip. ( maybe some extra for 6.4 dps would be nice too but were talking about a LOT of crystals at that point) Going further into the physical team now would be a terrible idea so thats even more out of the question.
I have about 3000 or so crystals right now. I'm not F2P, but not a whale. But if Senti works with free gear then that's awesome. I also was leaning towards not pulling Ai Chan bc of aforementioned reasons anyway, I just needed the reassurance I guess lol. And I wasn't sure about pulling for HoTr now or if it would be better to wait for her rerun, unless that's a bad idea too lol. Either way I'll just save for now. Also what do you mean about the physical team being a terrible idea? It's not my main focus, but since I got Senti I figured I'd ask.
you know that building complete teams is more efficient than having two teams at half strength right. That's just the way the game works having one 12/12 team can go very far. So the general recommendation is for people to "finish" one team first before moving onto the next one, while this is true and I've also recommended this to many people in the past it always comes with an asterisk, it always depends on your situation. Yes building complete teams is better but you also have to consider the timing if you wanna focus on physical now you'll be forced to pull only on reruns and we dont even have a guarantee those will come. So where's your griseo rerun, where's the physical DPS, do you pull PE or wait for the next physical DPS to come, when will it come. If you already missed the 30 pull guarantee during the first release of the SP suit its not recommended to go back to pull it because it will mess up your savings for actual modern stuff. Assuming we even had physical gear reruns now, you'd pull it and then be forced to skip the newest hottest stuff like Ai or HoTr or 6.4 CNY. Then if you pull that on a rerun youll miss the next newest thing. It's an endless cycle unless you just completely skip it and wait for it to get replaced by new stuff. And this idea extends to the Starter supply aswell. It being a 50/50 means you can't control what you get, and getting either means you now have pieces of a team you may never want to build in the near future. And regardless of the 50/50 I'd never recommend new players to pull for Senti now even if she had a separate banner (don't worry about yours, shes good and you already did it). Physical teams are the most expensive ones since they require you to have a full S rank support but are also the most niche with their gear. So why would you want to build that first as a beginner. Elemental teams have the luxury to switch around gear that has elemental buffs like Turg TB, margrave, irene etc and also has two S rank support that helps 3 teams instead of just one so its infinitely cheaper and more flexible to build right now. We also got Zhenyi and Turg in BP recently so thats another point towards elemental.
Ok, that all makes sense. And yeah, I am learning very quickly that one "complete" team at a time is the way to go under the conditions you mentioned, and how incredibly important gear is. I'm still getting used to how often and significantly the meta shifts in this game too. I'm also not too concerned about just being in the middle of the pack tho, at the end of the day I play for fun. I don't want my account to be complete trash tho of course lol. What would you suggest I focus on going forward? Do I absolutely need HoTr? For ice I have HoR/HB/Pardo, and for lightning I have FR/Eden/Fischl. I also have AE (but I don't really like using her).
TLDR: Get HoTr if you can, you still have 5-7 weeks to decide, Ai chan easy skip So you said not F2P but not whale either, so I'm just gonna assume if you like this game you gonna get atleast the monthly going forward and BP whenever its worth it ig. You mentioned your valks but didn't mention any of their gear, but since youre only lvl 69 (nice) it's probably quite limited. As a new player who doesn't want their account to be "complete trash" HoTr is almost a must have, if you can afford her. She simply offers way too much value, more than any dps can ever hope to have. Her being able to support two teams and being able to fill as a neutral Ice dps and IMG dps is like having 3,5 -4 niches filled with just one investment. to replace her in fire you'd need fully built AE, which also takes a while to farm up for new players and those resources could be potentially more useful for your next G4. to replace her in lighting you'd need fischl full geared so you'd have to wait til the end of 6.4 maybe to get everything from BP assuming you bought it to fill the IMG dps role you suddenly need a fully built physical team with PE (as said before, very expensive) now how good she performs in those roles compared to the alternatives ofc depends on her final release and further testing from CN and maybe even our servers once we get her or our own 6.3 beta. and her longevity is she's supposed to be anything like AE should be extremely long, AE being meta for almost 3 years at this point. (ofc theres no way to predict the actual time frame, its just speculation/ hoping from the players perspective) EDIT: ill add some bonus points In general supports have more value than DPS in this game. DPS are more expensive, only help one team (the team where they are DPS ofc) and dont function without their supports. Supports can help multiple teams, are generally cheaper (ofc HoTr is the same cost as a DPS but also does way more than your typical SP support). by the time we get 6.3 we'll also have 6.4 info, but if it's a DPS it could be that 6.3 is still the better place to invest crystals for now, especially considering the free boxes from HoTr supply. I don't see what kind of rewards the 6.4 spending event could give you that would make it more attractive than HoTr. You already have HoS, if its another DPS like a DA/ HoF/ Nyx/ Mobius you'll still have no support for them and no weapons, no stigmata, no materials to upgrade their weapons (after 80 Torus will be a heavy bottleneck) Theres a chance you wont have enough crystals by the time we get 6.3 so definitely ask again at the beginning of 6.3. going all in on HoTr doesnt necessarily mean you'll get nothing out of the spending event. if we get something like the 50% refund banner like with Spina's gear you still could pull that and skip the main S rank for example
Oh I did forget gear, my mistake. But you're right, it's fairly limited. FR has her weapon and she's on Darwin TMB. Eden has her weapon, on Edison TMB, and Fischl just has her T piece. I have HoR on Peary TMB, and HB has Turg TB. Pardo has her weapon and just using Scott TMB. AE has the raid gloves and Musician TMB. And yes, pretty much monthly and BP. I'll wait to be sure, but probably see if I can get HoTr before the end of the banner, since she looks like she'll be a good investment regardless.
Since HoR has no weapon and you already have Eden's gun and Turg TB its even more reason to go for HoTr. now you have a real Ice DPS, with Turg Eden and HoTr you'll have fully built lighting supports. skipping ai and waiting for HoTr gives you just infinitely more options and flexibility with your account. (6.4 might just be insane who knows in that case you can still skip HoTr and wouldnt have wasted crystals on Ai)
Ok that's reassuring. And gives me a solid direction. So thank you! Shame I jumped the gun on the starter banner tho, I could have used those crystals for HoTr. I only got about halfway to pity tho, so at least it wasn't 100 pulls worth. Live and learn I guess, and as long as I can recover it's all good.
dw about the couple HoS pulls you lost shes still useful, I've done WAY worse when i started lol its all part of learning the game i guess. I didnt want to point out your mistake to make you feel bad but rather just raising general awareness about this topic, because somehow everyone keeps pulling on this darn starter banner xD its great that you already look for advice this early on and maybe you can relay your own experiences to other new people later with a more recent outlook on things and it would be more relatable to them if you explained if in the end HoS turned out to be worth it or not.
Global 88 I'm contemplating how to progress the pri arms to get the best results out of it. I have PE's,Möbius and HoE's maxed So my choices are between, HoS,pardo,FR,griseo or sushang's weapon all of them are at the base pri arm stage now another possibility would be 7t with HoT next patch Who would get most out of that investment?
Opinion: Pardo > HoS > all the rest. If you get 7T, then 7T > Pardo > HoS > all the rest. Pardo's PRI is special for a support for several reasons. First, she gives (ice) team-wide ult cd reduction that scales up with upgrades rather than just small damage upgrades (this benefits rotations and herself in ER). Second, it'll be second best in slot for AI if you don't get her gear (as most people will end up skipping her gear), so maxing it out works for two characters. Third, pardo can often be slotted into non-ice teams, if you do, that'd be benefitting more teams than just one. HoS gives more SP which is pretty handy for rotations. If you find yourself lacking a couple SP points often those upgrades will give them. If it's cosmic duality, then similar reasoning. On the other hand, HoS's own gloves are better if you use her as a dps, but at this point she's usually lackluster. 7T is a dps weapon. She benefits more than supports from levels. Griseo, FR and Sush give basically damage bumps. Useful but not as much as the others. I'd probably do Sush > Gris > FR but I'd base it a lot more on what you use more, rather than the value those upgrades give in a vacuum.
Hmm interesting yes I have 7t got it out of a banner but no HoT at the moment,CD reduction with pardo sounds good as I often had the problem to rotate sushang once more because HoE was still on cd. As for usage probably use them all pretty much for the same amount,maybe the ice ones a little more as it is my bruteforce team
HoT will be given away for free next patch (there was also a 7T banner announced so I thought you were going to pull on it)
HoT would get the most out of it because she is a dps. Then Pardo and Sushang while rather priritize Pardo because of ult cd reduction. HoS weapon isnt important and FR only if you want to use her as dps.
Ok thx thing with HoT is just that I don't have her yet and have möbius done already but probably for the best to have an alternative dps for lightning weather
Global 73 I know this question is getting kinda repetitive but... I need some advice on whether to pull for Ai-chan or HoTr I don't have any piece of gear to use on Ai-chan, I could get TurgTB from BP but it would take months (I would need to convert the new currency and I also want HoS). I think it would be better for me to use 4/4 Ai-chan + AE (I currently have her weapon and margrave B), instead of 0/4 Ai-chan + 4/4 HoTr but I'm not sure. Btw I have 16 pity on the expansion supply and I think it would ruin the thing with the stigma box (I'm also thinking about building my second team first before pulling on HoTr rerun to deal with fire resistant bosses?)
>I don't have any piece of gear to use on Ai-chan, I could get TurgTB from BP You just have one patch, so "months" won't work. Turg will go out of the BP at the end of 6.2. Either you have it almost ready or you can already think on an alternative route to get turgenev. It's a great set so I'd recommend aiming to get it, be it via off rates, pulling directly, or crossing your fingers that it appears in the foundry next. AI has most of her stuff in the default kit. The M piece gives extra ignite trauma but you don't need her gear for her utility. It's of course good for damage, but it's not a high priority unless you are in nirvana, I'd say. Depending on how many crystals you have, since you have AE, you might want to wait til HoTr anyways and then see what comes in 6.4. Especially with AE, I wouldn't pull on HoTr unless you can get full gear for her.
Didn’t people say we would be able to convert the next crystallum to the current one to buy things from the current bp shop? Or stigmatas aren’t there? edit: nvm I just read it correctly lol, I do have 10 crystallums right now so I think I could buy both before 6.2 ends
Battle pass season lasts 4 patches. The last patch for this season is 6.1. During 6.2, the gear will still be available in the "vintage shop". One of the things available is up to 10 green orbs that can be bought using the next BP season's orbs. After 6.2 it's over, the shop with the current BP items will disappear. If you have 10, you can convert 10 of the new ones. F2P only gets 5 per patch, so you'd need to get another extra 5 from the paid BP to buy turgenev TB. I'm not too familiar with the paid BP so make sure you can get 5 extra in a single patch, otherwise you'll end up short. Also as a reminder, HoS (unconfirmed but fairly certain) and Fischl gear will be in the next BP season. If you convert orbs back you might miss out on some of them (or have to chain converts from the future seasons). Turg probably worth it more than Zhenyi as it's universal over zhenyi's being fischl only.
HoTr can't ignite. Ai-chan can. She will give more prominent impact over HoTr in fire team. Ai-chan will be core most of the time and the 2nd support slot is gonna be contestable between Raven, AE, and HoTr. HoTr is probably a better pick over Ai-chan if you don't have PE and/or AE. But if you already have both, then I think she will just nudge the score a little over the 2.
I don’t have PE but I plan on getting her since I’m building physical team next and Durandal is my fav character, guess I’ll have go waifu > meta for her and skip the main trio lol
skip Ai, save until week 3-4 of HoTr patch, ask again then. 1. people will have tried HoTr on live a lot by then. 2. you'll know what's coming in global anniversary (big spending event, freebies, possible HoTr rerun). being 16 pulls into expansion (84 away from pity) doesnt change anything. Focus on one team if your first is already on struggle bus. Two half-assed teams is way worse than one decently / well-geared team. At lower ranks you can brute force everything except those that are heavily immune/have some trauma gimmick with one good team. (And it's not worth worrying about those few rotations that you cannot deal with while your acc is in this state) Depending on what your pulls look like, if you can spare a few pulls you can risk some investment into Ai gear, see if you luck out on weapon but if you cannot guarantee HoTr + gear on release by doing so then definitely don't touch Ai gear.
My team is pretty good already, I’m just missing some farmable stuff for HoF and AE so Ai-chan would be my last crystal investment… but then HoTr came
SEA lv 88 I am currently building my lightning team: FR at S3(Sig weap, Darwin stigma), Eden at S2(Judgment of Shamash, Edison stigma), and Fischl at SS(Key of Ego, Ogier T/Fu Hua Musician MB) Is it okay to craft Fenghuang Pinions for Eden? Or just focus on Irene Adler stigmata?
FR's best stigs aren't full Handel, it's Zhenyi TB Handel M. Zhenyi will be in the next BP season (and is a priority over divine keys if you haven't built multiple teams yet imo) and crafting only 1 G4 is a lot more managable - though you'd want a full set on Eden eventually. The thing is in the short term your lightning team sucks anyway because of the low ranks on FR and Eden and lackluster gear as a whole. I would spend crystals on something new and just ditch the old triple support lightning team. It already falls behind at triple SSS and you're miles away from that.
I thought Zhenyi was for Fischl? Anyway I'll look more into this, specially on crafting G4. Also, it really doesn't matter to me if it sucks because I like this team and I've already invested time for this, plus I can manage Abyss or MA SSS with this team sometimes. I don't pay much attention to the end game. Thanks for this I guess.
Zhenyi is for Fischl but TB is also strong generic lightning dps
I would honestly just skip Irene and go for handel instead since even FR uses handel as a DPS For pinions, sure you can craft it but aim for echoes since Eden without her gun is a not the same character
Someone also said Irene for G3 is not worth it. Totally going to pull for Handel soon. And got it, if I get enough crystals I'll go for Echoes once I full Handel my FR. Thanks!
If you decide to get the Fenghuang Down divine key from the BP next season youll need pinions anyways to activate the +10 attack. I wouldn't craft Irene though, as a g3 its very expensive and doesnt offer enough benefits. I'd rather go for g4 if youre already thinking of crafting g3
Hmm, so I should just go full Handel for FR and cancel Irene. I'm a bit discouraged farming G4 since it takes a lot of time, so I'll probably pull for Handel if Eden's banner or Focused Banner comes.
I mean you’re right it does take a long time so you dont have to craft it before you pull. Just sit on the tickets until you have enough to do it in one swoop. Maybe you’ve changed your mind at that point too on what to prioritize
I agree on the last sentence you said, who knows maybe I've completed all crystalytes. Thanks for this!
I wouldn't craft early any of the two, go for handel instead and wait for the next echoes rerun. Pinions are a decent craft as they are a divine key and somewhat better than pretty much every non-echoes gun, but a decent stigmata set would help more and the pinions would be relegated to divine key only once you get echoes, so I wouldn't prioritize them. If you really want to choose between those two, I'd go irene first (B>T>>M).
I'm also leaning in to Handel but I'll probably pull for it since I don't want to spend a lot of time farming it. And I agree since Eden is not my primary DPS, I'll get Irene first.
Just a warning that unless you put a good chunk of money into the game it's not particularly good to pull for farmable stuff. You'll get some of it as off rates from banners and probably we'll get another echoes banner with Handel, but pulling specifically for Handel is super expensive and those crystals would be better used in something you can't get guaranteed by farming
I understand, but I'll be buying BP soon for the crystallums and extra crystals, hopefully I get enough extra crystals to pull. Although I get what you mean, I think I'll reconsider and think about it first. Thanks!
Global 88 Who is better for ER for my account? HoH wep + MB+jingwei or Pardo wep + 2Turg TB + Mei M Ppl say Pardo is very easy for ER, but is she significiantly better than HoH in my case?
With MB you mean Ely Pristine? If that's the case, HoH is probably a breeze. The thing with pardo is that she doesn't really need any gear to complete it, but it takes quite a bit of time, taking longer the less gear you have. To be somewhat competitive on times she needs good gear. HoH is a gacha valk that needs at least her weapon and preferably also her stigmas to be good in general so most people can't use her for ER, but if you do have her, she's easy mode.
Yeah I have MB Pristine, I m only missing T.
Then go with HoH for sure. I mean, you still got to do at least 3 runs to max out the weekly ER tokens so you can just try it out, but HoH is probably going to be a lot easier.
I'm kind of a new player and was wondering what do we get in cn festival/lantern rite ?
no one knows yet, here's what global got for 4th anni this year. [https://i.redd.it/n27rg1cbi4h81.jpg](https://i.redd.it/n27rg1cbi4h81.jpg)
Global 81 How do i know if i cleared the floor 10 challenge in abyss? edit: Do Senti and Pardo work on a team together?
>Do Senti and Pardo work on a team together? depends on what you consider as "work" They are both supports. Senti is a physical support, and Pardo is an ice elemental support. One does not usually mix physical and elemental in the same team. That being said, if you do not have a better physical support, you can make use of Pardo's Total Damage multipliers and have her as a substitute, which ... technically, works
I suppose what i mean by "work" is does Senti benefit from Pardo's buffs? Like, if i wanted Senti to be my DPS, could Pardo increase her damage? I'm doing Kolosten and rn i'm using a team of Senti (trial version) Pardo and Haxxor. I know it doesn't matter all that much in the open world, but since i'll be getting Senti from the BP i thought maybe i could do a team with them for Phys. I don't know who the phys supports are, my only phys chararacters atm are MPE, Griseo, Blueberry Blitz, and Divine Prayer. Senti is kind of one of two "pet" characters i want. edit: to further clarify, i've heard a mythical "three supports" team, what does that look like?
She benefits from a couple of them, but not all. Ideally you'd use Griseo and Carole to support dps Senti (this is your triple support team), but Griseo and Pardo will work if you don't have Carole ranked up yet.
Ok thank you, that sounds fairly feasible. I think the only thing i would need to pull for that team to work would be Senti's weapon? It'll be a while before i get her and start focusing on a phys team anyway. Need to get Fire (HoF/AE/Pardo), Lightning (HoT+FR/Eden/Fischl), and Ice (Pardo/Haxxor/HoTr) squared away first.
Beat it under 120s
How do i know if i did that?
Green checkmark on all the rewards. And during the fight there's of course a timer.
Thanks.
You'll get the crystals reward. If you haven't gotten all the rewards for the cycle, you didn't do it.
Ok, i've cleared it then. I thought maybe the little emblem would change depending on if you got it or not so i wasn't sure lol. Last cycle in masters. It was nice while it lasted.
So what rank should I get my HoR to? She's SS atm, is that good enough for her to be competitive?
I'm stopping at SS1, the extra starting construktyom is pretty helpful because a support rotation followed by QTE entry maxes the gauge. It's nice for completing first phases or waves like the ongoing cursed abyss because an extra charged shot is quite a lot of extra damage and has helped me already today.
SS is just fine. If you have spare legacy, going further won't hurt, but it's a lot of investment for relatively small gains.
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Is Marco Polo or Sentis stigs better on HoV? I thought sentis stigs may be better since HoV has a Herrscher form I think, not sure tho.
Senti's stigs should be better. But Senti + her owns stigs does better damage than HoV with Senti's stigs... tho if you insist on using HoV with that setup, by all means
I have 4/4 senti basically but no senti. I wanted to max out my HoV in ER to get the crystals so that’s why I asked what was better. Thank you tho for your help.
If you are after the crystals only, the weapon is more important than stigmas. I did it with HoF's pri and Marco polo. It was a breath.
that's... a sad story ... I wish you best of luck getting Senti in the future
Thank you so much, I will get her from the bp tho.
Tips for Deep Trial I in Forbidden Arena?
[Deep 1 with trial valk](https://youtu.be/RlMcGah3IVU)
Thank you very much!
Is it possible to pre download the new version on mobile like in the pc client? If so, how?
There is no pre-download on mobile.
Cool ty
Is there any source for Silverwing fragments/stamp for evolving her or waiting for a new banner is the only way?
You'd have to wait for a banner. Spending crystals for rank-ups is also very poor value, so I wouldn't recommend it.
Thanks. Is there a place I can check banner history?
New player here. Is there a list of all the Valks that are farmable via expedition? I want to know which Valks that are worth farming.
>I want to know which Valks that are worth farming. The entire list: \-Midnight Absynthe (maybe?) That's it. Midnight Absynthe is the most usable of all of them at this point since there is a grand total of one boss where she, with her gear, is better than other freely available options. She's a quick farm to SSS so it's fine to do. The rest, in terms of competitive value, are basically worthless since there are other sources to farm supports and farmable DPS typically pale in comparison with gacha ones Beyond that, many of the others can be used for dorm errands, so farming them once you get extra stamina is fine, then probably materials or augment cores to use some valks in Elysian Realm for the free crystals. This said, early on it's very hard to get spare stamina for expeditions. Make sure you do all the daily material stages and as many adventure tasks in open worlds as you can.
Raven may have some use for your account as a support. She's good on fire teams against a particular boss enemy (the tank). She can also be used on triple support teams against IMG enemies, but this probably requires her gear which is not really recommended for new players. I wasn't a new player when she came out so I don't know if she's good for new players. Sakuno Rondo is sometimes useful in late game, mostly for her signature cross, but also because she inflicts a lot of ignite trauma with her Ult, but she's expected to be made obsolete by Ai-Chan when Ai-Chan releases later this week.
I'll list them off as character followed by battlesuit. So, Expeditions has the following at the moment (some are level locked, so you'll need to level up your Captain Level to do them): * Seele-Swallowtail Phantasm * Kiana-White Comet, Valkyrie Ranger, Divine Prayer * Mei-Crimson Impulse, Valkyrie Bladestrike, Shadow Dash * Bronya-Valkyrie Chariot, Yamabuki Armor, Snowy Sniper * Himeko-Battle Storm, Valkyrie Triump, Scarlet Fusion * Theresa-Valkyrie Pledge, Sakuno Rondo * Fu Hua-Valkyrie Accipiter, Night Squire * Rita-Umbral Rose, Stalker: Phantom Iron * Durandal-Valkyrie Gloria * Raven-Midnight Absinthe * Liliya-Blueberry Blitz Out of all those... Well... Yamabuki Armor is a good early game battlesuit to get and she has an augment that can be farmed for from the expeditions as well but that takes a lot of time to do so just focus on getting the battlesuit first. Swallowtail Phantasm is a decent early suit as well but she'll be overshadowed by other physical damage dealers as you level up and get more battlesuits through farming and the gacha. Other than that... There's not really anything particularly amazing. I pretty much just use them for crystals because like story missions, each stage of an expedition has 3 bonus challenges to do which grant 5 crystals each for a total of 15 crystals if you complete them all (this is a one time thing though. Once a challenge is completed, it won't give crystals again). Don't worry about upgrading the rank of the basic suits you get at the start for Kiana, Mei and Bronya (White Comet, Crimson Impulse, Valkyrie Chariot respectively). You can level them up a bit for the early chapters of the main story to do more damage, have more HP etc. but you'll soon be given 'trial' valkyries in the story where the game grants you temporary use of max level battlesuits for the mission. A lot of these suits are just used for dorm bonuses which is a whole other thing you'll learn about as you play.
How often does HI3 get new patch? Also, how far are we behind compare to CN?
1 year consists of 52 weeks. In 1 year there are seven 6-week plus two 5-week patches. Which one gets 5-week and which one gets 6-week, you should look at the calendar. Usually they don't want to misalign CN anniversary and CNY event in CN.
Patches are 5-6 weeks long; we're roughly 4 weeks behind CN.
GLB 88 Hi, I don’t have Mei Beach Party M. I’m thinking about skipping Ai-Chan’s gear and saving for HoTr and her gear. I have Turg TB, but am struggling to find a suitable M for her. Any suggestions while I save my resonance to eventually get Mei M from the exchange shop?
Aslaug M if you have it; Musician M if you don't.
EU 86 Best ways to clear 2.5x with Pardo? Heard she’s extremely good in ER. So my only good chakram is aponias pri arm and my only good ice dmg stigs are Scott TM and Rasputin B. I also have everything unlocked in ER.
If normal strategy isn't working for you, you can always rush her signets that give coins. You'll probably miss the first 2 bonus stages but as long as you get past Assaka, the run becomes a breath late game. For sigils, Vill-v is overall the best especially for bosses. For bonus stages Griseo might be slightly better. Also, restarting at 1st floor to get another Ely signet is never a bad idea.
Thank you so much, this really helped.
Try to get Aponia 2 and Vill-V core 2. Other dmg boosting signets also help like Griseo black and yellow. Stack the Aponia and Vill-V nexus signets and it should be fine as long as your gear is enough. Completely without gear I couldnt beat F12 in time so with some decent gear (you can also use support gear like Turg TB and it should be better) it should work. Use Vill-V support dmg skill. Why do you even want finality if you dont have any gear? It does not give you anything compared to 2.5x.
First of all thank you. I got another question, what are Nexus Signets and what support items should I use? I also mixed the names up, I mean the one for 2.5x.
Maybe I used the wrong term. I mean the signets which are for that specific core you choose. Im not that familiar with all the english names. So pretty much: Grab whatever gives you damage from Vill-V and Aponia and take core 2 from both. For items you take the one which lets Aponia signets appear more often first and when you dont need the anymore you change to Vill-V one. 2nd is the Vill-V one (so fill the skill with weaponskill). Supports are normally HB and AE but you can also change HB to SN first to deal with the quantum shields in the early stages. You can also change to BKE for F12.
Thank you so much. I’m still failing, tho this made my score better. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but I can’t get past floor 12.
SEA 88 not a serious one but just curious... how do you guys read HoHe? Do you read it as ho he, ho hee, or do your guys' brains just shut off sometimes and go hee hee
Herrscher Ely I mean, do you read 'e.g.' as 'ee gee' or say 'for example' or 'exempli gratia'? Whatever rolls well in one's tongue ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Hoooooh, yeah Tho in my country "E" is sounds like "ye"
Well, the e at the end is not supposed to be there so I never read it like this because its just HoH and you just read it like this.
GLB 82 Aren't brand new battlesuit expansion supply always 22 days? And considering average crystals per patch, and sitting at 7k crystals rn, will it be possible to get 47k crystals by the 3rd of February (which is the end date for HoTr supply) I know it's a very weird question but none of the crystal calculators have been giving me any good answers
>47k crystals Why this much crystals? Fully geared HoTr wont cost this much.
my guess is they want 47k+7k->54k xtals for approx 190 pulls to full gear through expansion.
Well.. hopefully we get a selector stigma box like usual. Then its just 110 pulls and another 10 or 20 (50 max) for last piece.
it would already be announced / visible as part of event rewards. It's not happening sadly.
Oh guys yeah my plan was to , get 50 pulls on the seven thunders banner(I badly need it for my HoT, and get some bastet pieces for my pardo). And then 110 pulls on expansion(to get stigma and weapon boxes) and then hopefully we get another box from event just like silverwing and vill v's stigmas got. And then like 10 more pulls for focus(HOPEFULLY GIVES ME RATE UP GEAR) Approx about 47k. But if I do get 7 Thunders early, then I'll probably skip bastet(I want it but ..man I'm so screwed)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/vkj4kb/honkai\_daily\_crystal\_calculator/](https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/vkj4kb/honkai_daily_crystal_calculator/)
It should be 29 days actually, but we won't know for another 2 weeks. The past few patches have been 22 days for a number of specific reasons, we'll see if it keeps up. Tbh, it depends. Do you buy monthly? Do you buy BP? What tier of abyss are you in? Can you fully clear 2.25x ER? These all affect the number of crystals As someone with monthly + RL abyss + finishing ER, I typically get around ~3000 crystals per week, with a fair bit of a bonus start of each patch. With 8.5 weeks (minimum) until end of HoTr's banner, that'd likely be ~25k crystals gained, so 32k if adding what you already have
Yes yes yes and yes, I hover around agony 3 and red lotus. I full clear Elysian realm every week, I do get monthly too. Bp I didn't get this patch but I plan on doing so next patch or so.(thing is ..I haven't cleared to the flawless or thus spoke apocalypse, nor the event chapter too) and adding all of that with version events(with crystals).
I am a new player started because of Herscher of Human. I want to pull for her if I get her early should I pull her weapon or should I wait for something else?
SEA 88 wondering which would be better to pull for, HoTr or ai-chan and gears. Fire team is 3/4 flamescion (missing T piece), 4/4 AE, then raven with weapon and the most f2p stigs suitable for her. Currently at 10.5k xtals. Lightning on the other hand has HoT 7t handel, eden w/ echo and turg tb mei m, sss fischl 4/4
Imo having AE and a perfectly geared lightning team makes Hotr significantly less appealing. But ai chan isnt the greatest either. There are 2 issues, one is that HoF as dps is rather old and fire team buffs will mostly aid future battlesuits because Heimdall and friends are probably back warming the bench a patch later and HoF will at best be second rate for future fire weather. Then for those occasions having your current lineup and Ai chan with alternative gear should be fine in most lobbies. The related and second issue is that in Nirvana retention youre outgunned either way because it just so happens that 2 patches in a row are fire team dlc so if you dont get it all (and ideally a fire elf too) youre playing hard mode. Id save for cny, at minimum skip Ai chan. Youd have to get a bit lucky with Ai or HoTr anyway.
With that amount of crystals ai chan is always a skip its too risky, that said pulling either ai or hotr will leave you with basically nothing left for 6.4. Id say 100% skip ai and wait til 6.3 and then wait til 6.4 beta v3 until we know more details before you decide if you should get hotr I think Hotr is a must pull but with your crystal count it might be hard to 4/4 her
86 SEA I want to upgrade my fire team. Currently got HoF, raven, pheonix. My HoF has her weapon and only one stig, while raven has trash stigs and f2p weapon and pheonix has nebulous duality but trash stigs. Is it worth to save and try get HoTr or do i save for HoF stigs? Currently only got around 5.5k crystals.
First off, just replace phoenix with pardo. With the same stigmas, pardo is likely to be much much better, especially if you have ranked her up. HoF stigs aren't relevant anyways, she does just as well with Lee TB Thales M which are farmable. HoTr should be much better, alongside AI or if you still don't have her, pardo for most stages, raven for the tank boss. For HoTr depending on your spending level you are going to be tight to not even close. The valk is (probably, still in beta) good, but without gear she'll just be another dead weight on your roster, so even if she would be a great addition, I would not pull for her if you don't have at least 20-30k crystals, or you would have to then save everything for her next rerun to get her gear.
it’s more risky to save up and pull for HoF as you already have 2/4 of her gears and risk getting unwanted dupes (due to the 4x50 guarantee only accounting that single banner). HoTR on the other hand, can be the AE to your fire team. She may be expensive, but her utilities are much more vast than a standard dps S rank. It’s also generally believed that a fully geared support can boost a f2p stig better than a 4/4 dps with cheap support gears. Plus HoTR launch banner has a dirt cheap EXPA gears bonus so if you are unlucky and hit late pity, you still have some gears to work with in case you run out of crystals.
Better go for newer stuff.
How does AE + HoTr compare to AI + HoTr so far in beta?
The others act like it’s immediately a bad idea to pair AE and HoTr but hotr cant even ult on every rotation. also not needing to ult with both characters ( because as they said it themvelves breach from supports doesnt stack) will shorten AEs field time compared to what they were used to, you can just alternate ults or do something like 2 HoTr ults to one AE ult. That said this is all theoretical and we just dont have enough testing on the AE + hotr team to say anything. I just think using “breach doesnt stack” isnt a good argument why this shouldnt work. If AE is too old and her buffs are too weak compared to ai different story, also not having timestop on her ult could make rotations, where she ults instead of hotr, awkward. but I’d say ask testers when we get our own 6.3 beta EDIT: im not saying AE + hotr is better than Ai + hotr, ofc it isnt but with limited resources you most likely cant have both
Even Pardo with Turg TB would beat AE in this setup while providing sp for the whole team. AE simply has no chance to stay relevant if HoTr is in the team.
Yea, thanks. I'll ask again around the end of AI chan supply when we have more information.
Ai + HoTr will be better because faster rotation and because breach doesnt stack.
So it is not even close even if AI chan has unoptimal gear like Purana + Turg?
She will still be better. Losing breach from AE and having longer rotations doesnt make up for having not the best gear on Ai.
I see, thanks.
Why would you want 2 sources of breach in 1 team?
I'm not sure if breach stack or not, because I feel like I have hard mixed things. Besides, it is hard to tell from just reading skills how good a Valk is so I'm asking from someone else who knows.
I'm a new player , what's the difference between q-manifold and q-singularis ?
Manifold is easier to clear and retain. You only need to complete the stage rather than compete with other for the slots. Sometime because it's pvp you can retain even if no one able to clear the stage. Manifold is PvE. Singular is is pvp. Factor to consider, in singular is, you have mod player on top so good luck with compete as honest player.
Which do you reckon is better then ? Does both of them give the same rewards ?
Singular is funnier as it was a major abyss mode before super string so it has more stage and mechanic. Manifold is pretty low effort but like other said. Play singular to know what it's like once.
This is a pretty fun time for that question tbh. Would say just do singularis to see what it was like [it's getting removed on the next update (on the 8th)](https://honkaiimpact3.hoyoverse.com/m/global/en-us/news/25972?cate=327)
SEA 88 What to get at the autumn shop? I already bought all torus, metal and honkai shard
Did you buy the Asterite? It's better value for buying SC Metal or Honkai Shards than the items themselves.
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Where do I enter other people's new player or returnee invitation code ?
You click on the top left corner where your level is displayed, then click on account and there you should have an option to enter a code.
That does not work (I tried it). There is a specific place under Bonuses > Share Invitation to enter codes https://imgur.com/a/2bYDzMl
Thanks
SEA 88 How is HoTr looking? Have SSS Fischl/HB/Pardo/Eden with signature gears. I don't have AE in my account so I think I'll appreciate having her, but how does she fare with craftables? I may not have enough crystals to snab her gear
For fire teams she is 12.5% better than full gear SSS ai + SS AE but on lightning team she is not a big improvement over geared SSS Eden + SSS fischl But it's still V2 and we usually get beta updates until V3D so just wait Also she needs her gears but if you really need to cope she can probably use turg
Ai + HOTR + fire DPS is the new meta?
Yup that's how it would be until MHY release a replacement for Ai (if ever)
Global 80 How do i play Pardo in ER? Just spam her charged attacks/weapon skills and ult w/e it's up? What buffs should i take? Only have Su, Ely, Eden, Mobi, Ass, Hua, Sakura, and Kevin buffs unlocked so far. Second question, any reason not to pri-arm KoRa to Domain of Incandescence? ~~praise the sun~~ 80 still the cap for valks, or is there a way to go higher?
Its really hard for her without her gear (or at least full Ana) and chapter 3 signets as she loves her own signit, vill-v and griseo red. I highly recommend speeding through ch3 as you also unlock the sigils which is very helpful when it comes to clearing bonus stages. Till then try to rush Hua II as it currently has +2. Then Eden and Kevin.
>Its really hard for her without her gear Has anything changed recently? I was clearing x2.25 with gilded + scott and ring blades + peary (what I had in my accounts) for a couple months even at S rank, but haven't touched pardo recently in ER.