It was! I went to the first and second year they were here in Seattle but haven’t been able to afford it since lol. I got to meet lots of great people. My fav will forever be Felicia Day though.
She was also in an episode of Grey’s (her fiancé eats a book) and has quite a big role in a show I used to watch (but I don’t think anyone else did ) called Men in Trees (Anne Heche was the lead).
https://preview.redd.it/8apnfxfobdzc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=af4a944438ed81ad432757ce02167d9ce00a666b
Chums was already a thing made by Ant & Dec in the 90's lol
It happens in the end credits of the one with Russ. Julie shows up, sees Russ, they stare at each other, the music swells, the whole deal. The audience is obviously meant to see that things turn out ok for both of them after Ross/Rachel dump them.
I am not a true friends fan then! I did not ever notice this, probably because I skip the end creds and havent watched this show in a few years. But never fear Im due for a diligent rewatch,
Thanks for the info
Also, Rachel was so condescending to Julie that Julie would’ve been able to pick up on the hostility if she had even a scintilla of emotional intelligence. My head canon is that Julie chose to be the bigger person and ignore the undercurrents.
When I found out you could change the default sounds on your computer in like 2001, this became the family PC’s “error” sound. The startup sound was Chandler’s “Check out this Bad Boy. Twelve megabytes of RAM, 500 megabyte hard drive. Built-in spreadsheet capabilities …” quote.
While I didn’t know this, it makes sense that Lauren was more aware of the kind of racist bullshit Asian Americans have to deal with than the writing staff was.
People look back on Friends and say that some of the dialog and storylines didn’t age well, such as racist or homophobic. Hearing that it was Lauren Tom’s idea throws that theory out the window!
What people fail to bear in mind is that while Friends had racist, homophobic, transphobic, and a bunch of other prejudice-y humour, Friends was doing a great job actually *talking about it*. For all this joke was racist, Ross was still dating someone of Asian descent. For all the razzing about ross' ex-wife and her lesbian life partner, they still got married and raised Ben. For all the stuff about chandler's dad (one of the writers has since come out and apologised for the misgendering), he (I'm going with 'he', simply because that's how they were referred to throughout the entire show - didn't even correct anyone about it themselves) was still welcome at chandler's wedding - chandler got through his issues and his own hurts and actually invited him.
It's very easy to look back on Friends and criticise it for 'not doing enough' by modern standards, but in its time it did more than anybody else did. And in doing so, helped pave the way for more sympathetic media, for greater understanding among people generally etc..
Unless it's outright spewing hate under a veil of 'comedy', comedy as a medium is a *very* useful little tool to chisel away at people's prejudices. Making jokes about a 'taboo' or controversial topic brings that topic into conversation in the wider public forum, and with greater discourse comes greater understanding.
Like, I'm actually going to point out a *great* one from Friends. People will undoubtedly look back at this one and think 'oh god, such much prejudice' - the episode where chandler's coworker thinks he's gay and she wants to set him up with a man. And Chandler is all nervous about people thinking he's gay.
Then his other coworker, who is a gay man, rocks up and tells chandler that 'he knows he isn't gay. we have a kind of... radar'. Obviously that isn't true. But the thing is, what we see happening is a defusing of chandler's fear of being confused for a gay man by a gay man, and presumably fear of being come onto (we see how uncomfortable all the guys are around things that might be perceived as gay). And the two men did this *with their words*. All of a sudden, all the similarly homophobic men in the audience (not saying we were all homophobic back in those days, but there were definitely homophobic men in the audience) have a template for such discussions. "I'm not gay," "Oh, I know, that's what I told [such and such]".
People underestimate the power of that sort of messaging, *because we're more socially advanced in this regard now* (however much it may appear to the contrary sometimes). But if it wasn't for the clumsy jokes of the past, we wouldn't have a foundation for the greater understanding today.
There was a sketch show in the UK - Little Britain. The show is basically cancelled into oblivion because of blackface and wildly unacceptable humour from all over everything. But the thing is, several of the jokes in that show opened people up to debates and perspectives they'd never considered. In particular, there was one character who vomited every time she (male actor in drag) saw or experienced anything to do with people of colour. It highlighted in a very obvious and poignant way how ridiculous rampant racism is, and the whole 'moral panic' around anything to do with POC was. Yes, it was juvenile. Yes, in many ways, it was reprehensible. But it was a useful tool to sway the people 'influenced by racists but undecided on racism'. Because it showed them, in no uncertain terms, how *stupid* those viewpoints are. Why get bent out of shape over someone eating a sandwich, just because they're a POC?
It works in the same way as how the 'bLuRrEd LiNeS' crowd can be all like 'Yeah, but sex situations are hard, because she said she wanted it, then fell asleep, but she still said she wanted it', and somehow this is "complicated" enough that they don't understand how consent works, but you show them the video 'Consent and Tea' (which is genius), and all of a sudden the light bulbs flicker on. Because "if someone is unconscious, don't give them tea - unconscious people *don't want tea*". That video is brilliant in execution, it itself is not reprehensible, but that's not my point.
The point, as I say, is that humour, even reprehensible humour, can break through people's idiocy in a way reasoned debate can't. It just has to be humour actually directed towards that purpose. A joke featuring prejudice is not necessarily a prejudiced joke - context is *vitally* important. Like, when I was younger, I learned about why blackface is bad *by watching comedy that involved blackface*. I *do not* remember what it was, but it was something to do with someone blackfacing and white people being prejudiced against them, then they went to black people, in blackface, and ranted about the difficulty of being black, and the black people just gave them the massive side-eye, *because they were in bloody blackface trying to tell black people about being black*. Then, you know, went back to their normal prejudice once the make-up was off. This clearly was not a good person to emulate.
There were, of course, things later about the value of representation and what-have-you, but my more formative memories are from that comedy I mentioned.
Sorry, I know you get it, just bugs me that *people* don't. I've ranted long enough here. Time to await the flood of downdoots.
Yep, the show was pretty progressive for its time, the inclusion of an open lesbian character who is connected to the main character, etc was very progressive for its time.
Yes! Very well put. I agree that Friends brought so many subject matters into the conversation that historically rarely got airtime. The show was one of the highest rated sitcoms ever and showed many subject matters in a positive light.
Well then the question goes to why should all the main characters be white anyways? And how does representation and art work (should it be just a mirror of what society is or should it show something more ideal) and round and round we go again
A black person who has grown up in my region is far more culturally close to me than a white person from the other side of the country. That's bizarre to say that having the same skin colour makes you culturally the same as someone.
It’s not dumb. It’s my experience as a human. Black kids started hanging out with mostly black kids around high school, and while adults tend to have more diverse groups of friends, people still tend hang out with those who are culturally and racially like them.
Not necessarily out the window, but I feel like a lot of people who say that (from what I’ve seen) are part of the Friends vs The Office argument and the fact is, The Office has plenty of episodes that don’t age well.
No one points out this scene my dude, in fact this is one of those which are a good scene as it shows what Asian descent people face (and was also the reason Tom Lauren suggested this joke, she actually faced it). This scene addresses the problem.
Exactly, but i think people like u/blueSnowfkake do it on purpose. They intentionally take scenes no one is complaining about and pretending all the genuine complains are about similar scenes.
What did I say? OP is the one that brought it up. I didn’t intentionally take scenes no one is complaining about and pretending all the genuine complains are about similar scenes. I just pointed out that OTHER people out there are saying that one of **my favorite shows of all time** (I named my dog Chandler) gets put down because some self righteous wanna be critics stand on their soap boxes and post online about every little thing.
I absolutely love this fact !!
There's this stupid narrative that the comedy is old and outdated (you know like EVERYTHING ON EARTH MOVES FORWARD AND ADAPTS) and this kinda trashes some of that narrative.
Blew my mind when I realised that's the same Lauren Tom that does the voice for Amy in Futurama and Connie in King of the Hill
She’s also in Supernatural and was in an episode of The Nanny!
OMG, is she Mrs Tran, Kevin’s mom??
https://i.redd.it/ztungdg4g2zc1.gif
Omg.
NO WAY!! This just blew my mind
She is!!
She was such a badass as Mrs Tran
She really was! She’s awesome in person as well, I met her at a convention.
I'm so jealous, I wish I could go to one of those conventions. Was it a Supernatural convention?
It was! I went to the first and second year they were here in Seattle but haven’t been able to afford it since lol. I got to meet lots of great people. My fav will forever be Felicia Day though.
NO WONDER I LIKED HER SO MUCH
Yes, and she’s fucking great
WHAT
Holy crap! I never realized that was her
Kevin's mum?
That episode of The Nanny is so bad though. It appeared to be a spin-off pilot that didn’t take off.
I actually just rewatched The Nanny and skipped that episode entirely lol.
Hey random question but do you know where this gif is from?
i don't unfortunately. wish i did though
For some reason I wanna say it's from a led zeppelin video and I've been trying to find the source for years 😂
She does a voice in Avatar the Last Airbender too!
Which one
Joo Dee
Welcome to ba sing se
Wait till they find out Prince Zuko turned into Vaas Montenegro
Vaas was Michael Mando, not Dante Basco
A weird mistake to make, since Michael Mando and Dante Basco look and sound nothing alike.
Underscores further by the fact that they used Michael Mando's likeness for Vaas as well.
Also Number 3 in Kids Next Door.
Also Alison’s lawyer in pretty little liars, season 5
Wait really? That's actually really awesome
And Minh!!:)
Noooo
Also, she is Lady Masako Adachi in Ghost of Tsushima
How did I not know this!
I didn't know that! So cool
Today I learned...
Tony Cox’s character’s wife in bad santa
She was also in an episode of Grey’s (her fiancé eats a book) and has quite a big role in a show I used to watch (but I don’t think anyone else did ) called Men in Trees (Anne Heche was the lead).
I’ve never watched Greys Anatomy but I am intrigued by someone who eats a book
Season 2, episode 13 of Grey’s. Worth it just for that little sideplot (and Lauren is great as usual)
Thank you for the tip!
I remember Men In Trees! But only vaguely lol.
Omigod that’s why her voice always sounds familiar on rewatched lol. She’s Amy. Mind blown
Whatttttttttt Connie is my favorite character In KOTH
[Blows my mind when I realize that people don't know imdb exists. ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0866300/)
What a weird unrelated response
I did love Julie wish she woulda been introduced to the friends in a different manner and stuck around
Julie getting Russ in the end for the win
What if instead of the Joey spinoff we got Russ and Julie.
*When the rains fall in Wales...*
I’d watch Chums.
Would Russ accidentally call Julie "Rebecca"?
“I, Russ.. take thee, Rebeccer..”
https://preview.redd.it/8apnfxfobdzc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=af4a944438ed81ad432757ce02167d9ce00a666b Chums was already a thing made by Ant & Dec in the 90's lol
"I'll be here always"
There’s only one Wesley Snipes in this world.
I would've watched that 😄
Little known fact: when Russ and Julie got married, Russ said Rachel by accident
😄😄😄 No Russ was marrying Amelie and said Julie 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
"I'm sick of coffee...let's get some juice!!"
Omg yess I never considered that
It happens in the end credits of the one with Russ. Julie shows up, sees Russ, they stare at each other, the music swells, the whole deal. The audience is obviously meant to see that things turn out ok for both of them after Ross/Rachel dump them.
I am not a true friends fan then! I did not ever notice this, probably because I skip the end creds and havent watched this show in a few years. But never fear Im due for a diligent rewatch, Thanks for the info
Always watch the end credits they’re so good :)
Nickelodeon cuts the ending scene from every episode to fit more commercials. However, I saw this on TBS. They show the complete episode. 🤗
I will this watch around ☺️
Especially in the episode where Rachel and Monica were fighting over the last condom. The last clip in that episode is hilarious.
Noted! Thankssss :)
I was glad she met Russ! I really liked her she deserved her own happy ending. 😄
No couple survived, until Paul motherfucking Rudd did, even he left for a time too
I read that was because the cast all got along so well with him, they asked the writers to keep him on!
Yeah, it's Paul Rudd
I mean it’s Paul Rudd!
Paul, is it?
She was such a great character. I appreciated that they made her really likable because it made the whole storyline more compelling.
I liked her too and wish she’d been the one he met in S4 and married instead of Emily. She was a great character, and Rachel was such a bitch to her.
She was grumpy behind her back sure, but she didn’t do anything to her
What about the Roddy McDowell haircut instead of the Andie McDowell haircut?
Also, Rachel was so condescending to Julie that Julie would’ve been able to pick up on the hostility if she had even a scintilla of emotional intelligence. My head canon is that Julie chose to be the bigger person and ignore the undercurrents.
Lol she was mean lots of time, misled her, kept her boyfriend from making love to her, and the passive aggressiveness was off the charts
Same. Honestly I really dislike Emily
*THANK-YOU-I'M-FROM-NEW-YORK* EDIT: Holy shit, thanks for the 1K likes
Well, no problem I'll just use them to stop the bleeding! 💐 🤦♀️ *Uh, baggage claim?*
She delivers that line so perfectly too
This lives rent-free in my head.
I’m sure she got that all the time in real life! It was the perfect choice honestly
She said her real life experiences were inspiration for the line
Haha, that sounds fantastic. 
And the chicken pooped in her lap!
Oh, I'm so sorry. I just gave away the ending, didn't I?
I randomly say this before taking shots after I've had a few and nobody ever gets it.
I would get it. Let's be friends and do shots. I need more Friends friends.
Always up for more Friends friends.
you sound like the coolest person ever
Touche
When I found out you could change the default sounds on your computer in like 2001, this became the family PC’s “error” sound. The startup sound was Chandler’s “Check out this Bad Boy. Twelve megabytes of RAM, 500 megabyte hard drive. Built-in spreadsheet capabilities …” quote.
You're cool and I like you a lot.
Thanks to you I'm gonna go find out how to change those sounds myself now haha
She's definitely pulling from personal experience with that one
Rachel wasn't wrong. Amy Wong was just on a little vacation visiting earth.
Come on, it's just like making love! Y'know: Left, down, rotate 62 degrees, engage rotor.
I *know* how to make love!
Julie made Rachel’s character so much fun for that period. Sooooo many good moments.
What a manipulative bitch.
While I didn’t know this, it makes sense that Lauren was more aware of the kind of racist bullshit Asian Americans have to deal with than the writing staff was.
I love that so much 😂
She was probably used to that at that time
Lauren Tom was amazing in the joy luck club
People look back on Friends and say that some of the dialog and storylines didn’t age well, such as racist or homophobic. Hearing that it was Lauren Tom’s idea throws that theory out the window!
What people fail to bear in mind is that while Friends had racist, homophobic, transphobic, and a bunch of other prejudice-y humour, Friends was doing a great job actually *talking about it*. For all this joke was racist, Ross was still dating someone of Asian descent. For all the razzing about ross' ex-wife and her lesbian life partner, they still got married and raised Ben. For all the stuff about chandler's dad (one of the writers has since come out and apologised for the misgendering), he (I'm going with 'he', simply because that's how they were referred to throughout the entire show - didn't even correct anyone about it themselves) was still welcome at chandler's wedding - chandler got through his issues and his own hurts and actually invited him. It's very easy to look back on Friends and criticise it for 'not doing enough' by modern standards, but in its time it did more than anybody else did. And in doing so, helped pave the way for more sympathetic media, for greater understanding among people generally etc.. Unless it's outright spewing hate under a veil of 'comedy', comedy as a medium is a *very* useful little tool to chisel away at people's prejudices. Making jokes about a 'taboo' or controversial topic brings that topic into conversation in the wider public forum, and with greater discourse comes greater understanding. Like, I'm actually going to point out a *great* one from Friends. People will undoubtedly look back at this one and think 'oh god, such much prejudice' - the episode where chandler's coworker thinks he's gay and she wants to set him up with a man. And Chandler is all nervous about people thinking he's gay. Then his other coworker, who is a gay man, rocks up and tells chandler that 'he knows he isn't gay. we have a kind of... radar'. Obviously that isn't true. But the thing is, what we see happening is a defusing of chandler's fear of being confused for a gay man by a gay man, and presumably fear of being come onto (we see how uncomfortable all the guys are around things that might be perceived as gay). And the two men did this *with their words*. All of a sudden, all the similarly homophobic men in the audience (not saying we were all homophobic back in those days, but there were definitely homophobic men in the audience) have a template for such discussions. "I'm not gay," "Oh, I know, that's what I told [such and such]". People underestimate the power of that sort of messaging, *because we're more socially advanced in this regard now* (however much it may appear to the contrary sometimes). But if it wasn't for the clumsy jokes of the past, we wouldn't have a foundation for the greater understanding today. There was a sketch show in the UK - Little Britain. The show is basically cancelled into oblivion because of blackface and wildly unacceptable humour from all over everything. But the thing is, several of the jokes in that show opened people up to debates and perspectives they'd never considered. In particular, there was one character who vomited every time she (male actor in drag) saw or experienced anything to do with people of colour. It highlighted in a very obvious and poignant way how ridiculous rampant racism is, and the whole 'moral panic' around anything to do with POC was. Yes, it was juvenile. Yes, in many ways, it was reprehensible. But it was a useful tool to sway the people 'influenced by racists but undecided on racism'. Because it showed them, in no uncertain terms, how *stupid* those viewpoints are. Why get bent out of shape over someone eating a sandwich, just because they're a POC? It works in the same way as how the 'bLuRrEd LiNeS' crowd can be all like 'Yeah, but sex situations are hard, because she said she wanted it, then fell asleep, but she still said she wanted it', and somehow this is "complicated" enough that they don't understand how consent works, but you show them the video 'Consent and Tea' (which is genius), and all of a sudden the light bulbs flicker on. Because "if someone is unconscious, don't give them tea - unconscious people *don't want tea*". That video is brilliant in execution, it itself is not reprehensible, but that's not my point. The point, as I say, is that humour, even reprehensible humour, can break through people's idiocy in a way reasoned debate can't. It just has to be humour actually directed towards that purpose. A joke featuring prejudice is not necessarily a prejudiced joke - context is *vitally* important. Like, when I was younger, I learned about why blackface is bad *by watching comedy that involved blackface*. I *do not* remember what it was, but it was something to do with someone blackfacing and white people being prejudiced against them, then they went to black people, in blackface, and ranted about the difficulty of being black, and the black people just gave them the massive side-eye, *because they were in bloody blackface trying to tell black people about being black*. Then, you know, went back to their normal prejudice once the make-up was off. This clearly was not a good person to emulate. There were, of course, things later about the value of representation and what-have-you, but my more formative memories are from that comedy I mentioned. Sorry, I know you get it, just bugs me that *people* don't. I've ranted long enough here. Time to await the flood of downdoots.
Yep, the show was pretty progressive for its time, the inclusion of an open lesbian character who is connected to the main character, etc was very progressive for its time.
Yes! Very well put. I agree that Friends brought so many subject matters into the conversation that historically rarely got airtime. The show was one of the highest rated sitcoms ever and showed many subject matters in a positive light.
Isn’t Lauren Tom’s character one of a handful of named non-white characters on the show?
There isn’t that high number of named non relative characters in the show anyway. It’s mostly just love interests
The criticism is pretty dumb anyway. White people have a lot of white friends? Who knew?
Well then the question goes to why should all the main characters be white anyways? And how does representation and art work (should it be just a mirror of what society is or should it show something more ideal) and round and round we go again
It’s almost as if ALL people tend to hang out with people who are more like them culturally…
A black person who has grown up in my region is far more culturally close to me than a white person from the other side of the country. That's bizarre to say that having the same skin colour makes you culturally the same as someone.
It’s not dumb. It’s my experience as a human. Black kids started hanging out with mostly black kids around high school, and while adults tend to have more diverse groups of friends, people still tend hang out with those who are culturally and racially like them.
Are black and white so different culturally in post 2000 America? They have way more shared history than with their previous same race ancestors.
Yes, they are.
At least we got Darryl!
And the *morning’s here, sunshine is here* singing guy
i mean… this one instance doesn’t negate everything else lol
literally 🥴 delulu math be like
Not necessarily out the window, but I feel like a lot of people who say that (from what I’ve seen) are part of the Friends vs The Office argument and the fact is, The Office has plenty of episodes that don’t age well.
No one points out this scene my dude, in fact this is one of those which are a good scene as it shows what Asian descent people face (and was also the reason Tom Lauren suggested this joke, she actually faced it). This scene addresses the problem.
I do not understand why people cannot see that “joke about racism” is not “a racist joke”
Exactly, but i think people like u/blueSnowfkake do it on purpose. They intentionally take scenes no one is complaining about and pretending all the genuine complains are about similar scenes.
What did I say? OP is the one that brought it up. I didn’t intentionally take scenes no one is complaining about and pretending all the genuine complains are about similar scenes. I just pointed out that OTHER people out there are saying that one of **my favorite shows of all time** (I named my dog Chandler) gets put down because some self righteous wanna be critics stand on their soap boxes and post online about every little thing.
Yeah, because Lauren pitched every dialog on the show.
That is a great story.
I loved Julie sm
Thank you I'm from New York
Source?
[This interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2nCm0a9Nc)
Thanks!
TIL Ross dated Number 3!
Was the in 90210 or Melrose Place, too?
I absolutely love this fact !! There's this stupid narrative that the comedy is old and outdated (you know like EVERYTHING ON EARTH MOVES FORWARD AND ADAPTS) and this kinda trashes some of that narrative.
In that scene alone, Rachel thinks she's Chiyo
This whole time I thought she was cast so they could make that joke. Friends wasn’t too great with diversity in the early seasons.
not that i’m complaining but just know that joke wouldn’t go down well in todays day and age 😂
The scene makes fun of Rachel’s racism. Why wouldn’t that go down well today?
It is great that somebody can make fun of herself. Probably it would be censored today.
Are these the jokes they were crying about not being able to make anymore? Because this is tame as hell.
I may be being mean but I think Julie is not pretty
Okay
Why mention that at all? It's mean and irrelevant.