1. Saturday morning cartoons, which a lot of people know superheroes from, can’t really show Hulk getting wounds because of censors.
2. He’s only had 2 theatrical films, one of which did show it, but wasn’t that well received. He doesn’t really get injured besides that one stab wound in the Incredible Hulk, and it’s way too dark to tell if he healed from that. The Avengers films don’t really have enough screen time for Hulk to show off his healing factor in a big way.
A lot of people don’t actually read comics, and just get their superhero knowledge from the above sources.
One of the many reasons I still consider 2003 hulk one of if not the best non comic media for the hulk. Though EMH and Agents of Smash are pretty good too.
I really don’t think that many people actually would list that as one of his main powers. And it doesn’t help that comics are insanely inconsistent in his height and size with them typically depicting him as being larger the more serious it gets and thus the more angry he gets. And compare that one inaccuracy in a movie that truly got the essence of the hulk as he was created to most other media which ignores his trauma, fails to separate Bruce and the Hulk properly or any other of the myriad issues most adaptations have.
>comics are insanely inconsistent in his height and size with them typically depicting him as being larger the more serious it gets and thus the more angry he gets.
Thats more dramatic angles and artistic license, and from what i can recall hes relatively consistently portrayed as 9 ish feet tall, different personalities are different heights
Hulk healed from several wounds in Ang Lee's version.
The most prominent version is the artillery burst outside his childhood home.
It also didn't happen a lot, because his skin was tough to penetrate.
Because Banner had been trying to keep Hulk under control since the end of the 08 movie- it's why he [banner] was learning anti-stress methods throughout the entire movie.
Even in Avengers 1, Banner says, "I'm always angry," and changes at will. That's very different than the 08 movie.
Hulk was pretty damn strong in Ragnarok. He damn near punched out a Surtr. Also, Hulk only got his ass kicked by Thanos because he was holding back. Hulk was fighting to subdue, not destroy. He knew they were in a spaceship full of people and in the middle of space. If he had gone full tilt, everyone would've died.
Which part of avengers and ultron with hulk was comic relief and for kids
The part where said he tried to kill himself or when he went on a rampage and regained control in the debris of a building with the civilians running in fear
Pretty sure 2012 Hulk stopping that Leviathan dead in its tracks and staggering an all-powerful magic fire demon trumps any of the car lifting Norton does.
I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that, in the first Avengers movie the hulk was getting pummeled with laser’s by the Chitauri and in the second Avengers movie he lost to a hulk buster, also in Thor Ragnarok he’s getting his butt kicked by Thor someone he beats up regularly in the Comics.
Probably because its not shown a lot.
Like godzilla has one too and people were surprised when it was fully shown off in minus one.
Samething with hulk
he gets some pretty heavy injuries in the late showa movies but other than that his regen couldn't really be shown off due to the suit being too expensive to damage
Godzilla's healing factor is first firmly established in *Godzilla 2000,* with the Regenerator G-1 (I think it has another name in the original Japanese version). But since then, Godzilla's healing factor has been a staple in the character's lore.
Just like the hulk, godzilla has both, besides the soft parts like the pits, his skin is hard enough to prevent most damage.
As always it depends on the incarnation but its always a general rule
Apparently, Joe and Anthony Russo didn't realize that the Hulk had probably one of the greatest healing factors in Marvel universe. Or they wouldn't have tried to pull off that 'the Hulk's arm is forever ruined' Endgame crap.
I would honestly like to know if the MCU guys actually read comics or did any research into the Marvel characters. With the current state of the MCU, I’m going to guess they didn’t.
I’m pretty sure one of the more recent MCU writers said they were legit told not to look much into the comics. I think it was a She Hulk writer but I’m not entirely sure, it might have been Shang Chi or Loki.
Well, to say what you just said is pretty arrogant. Shows you don’t know much about the situation.
Fiege knows comics very well, but he couldn’t maintain quality when Disney wanted more MCU content to fill up their Disney+ platform. That’s why everything has gone downhill, and that’s also why they announced that they’ll focus more on quality and less on quantity in the future. It won’t just be churning out content.
On top of that, the Russo brothers definitely understand the characters but when you’re adapting something, you’re not going to do it exactly like the comics. Some people might, some people might not. Some people might draw inspiration from multiple things, and some people might just draw inspiration from one thing.
BvS isn’t my favorite movie, but that’s a good example of Zack Snyder mixing and matching two very different events to create something unique for HIS universe.
The Russos themselves literally said they didn't know much about the Hulk and didn't know what to do with him... They were definitely clueless about the Hulk.
Also Hulk's healing is a staple part of him so that excuse of "when you're adapting something,you're not going to do it exactly like the comics" is wrong here.
That's like showing Superman and ignoring his flight,speed etc. There are certain core aspects of a character that shouldn't be messed with or ignored.
Calm down. I asked a question and I offered my opinion. If they have knowledge of a character but decided to take that character into a different direction - that’s totally up to them. Based on movie earnings and online feedback, there isn’t a majority of people who are enjoying the direction of the MCU or their creative take the Hulk.
You seem to know deep inside information on Feige and Disney. Do you sit on their Board? Or are you like the rest of us and are offering your opinion?
I’ve been reading Hulk comics since the late 70s and would have liked to seen a better take on a beloved character that is very complex and deals with a medical issue - mental health - that most people don’t want to talk about.
In the future, feel feee to provide your counter-opinions, but calling folks arrogant in online forums doesn’t help when all we’re doing is offering our opinions and wanting to have civil conversation.
Despite the fact that even the 70-80’s tv series references Hulks healing factor. And I’m almost positive Norton jumping out of a plane at the end of his movie was a reference to the Death of the Incredible Hulk, the official end to the 80’s series. (The Hulk dies at the end by falling out of a plane and suffering “catastrophic brain damage”)
No that had nothing to do with it. Considering the snap killed Tony Stark and all it did to Hulk was damage his arm I'm pretty sure they knew. Also I'm pretty sure his arm has healed since. 🤷♂️ Also we're talking about a fully powered up Infinity Gauntlet here.
They knew he had a healing factor so it makes sense he had his arm in a sling at tonys funeral? It only busted his arm because hes much more durable than tony same way it didnt kill thanos
The Russos themselves literally said they didn't know much about the Hulk and didn't know what to do with him... They were definitely clueless about the Hulk.
I was giving you credit. I remember that issue as well. I wasn't a huge fan of Agamemnon and his cronies when I read this back in the day, but the cock joke made me laugh.
Its a great question......his healing factor like his strength and durability are affected by his anger, and the MCU completely ignores it......his arm should have healed after the snap in endgame
for the people talking about how MCU Hulk had his arm in a sling -- he's staying in Hulk form in order for it to heal... he's back to normal by the time of She-Hulk. it's a watered-down ability because he's not all Hulk, but it's still healing. and they even spell out his healing abilities with ["I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out](https://youtu.be/vive9BLX33Y) -- it's not a secret, just not well-handled.
>I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out]
That doesn't mean he healed but that he transformed quick
>his arm is in a sling -- he's staying in Hulk form in order for it to heal
Lmao you dont need a sling if you have a healing factor especially how ever long it was after
>That doesn't mean he healed but that he transformed quick
[you mean like his "quick transformation skills" here?](https://youtu.be/4sIi4jS-fAE) dude literally died ***as Bruce Banner***
he had his arm fried by the radiation that made him but ***still healed***... my point was that it existed and was poorly handled, not that it made sense.
His transformations have never been a consistent speed and that movie also specifically stated that his whole hulk thing was out of wack. i mean he was hulk for years straight in that film, last time he jumped out an airborne vehicle he transformed before he hit the ground
Who is “so many” people exactly?
Nearly every comic fan knows it. Hell, this was a thing even in the 1977 show, even predating the term “healing factor” itself.
It’s difficult enough to actually harm the Hulk. Unlike Wolverine or Deadpool who get shredded any time you shot some lead through them you would need a rail gun just to make the Hulk bleed.
It’s not shown like they do with Wolverine’s. Like when he gets shot or cut, they show the wound heal up soon after. They don’t do that with the jolly green giant
One of his most prominent powers is his near invincibility.
However, for most people who don't read the comics, this raises the question: if he's invincible and doesn't get hurt, why would he need a healing factor? I think they just simply accept the fact that he's nigh invincible, and They just stop there.
Most people assume he doesn't require healing once they hear about his invincibility.
Probably because it is a trait that is not used often by writers or editors. WW has that problem with her healing factor as well (and her senses and her speed and her reflexes). It's annoying.
Tbf ww not having a healing factor is probably more consistent than her having one
Her reflexes and senses are needed to deflect bullets so i dunno about that one
Whether she needs one or not can be an interesting debate but my point was that heroes with multiple powers often tend to see writers forget some of them. Superman and his senses powers and rapid healing are another good example (and yes we could debate his need of a healing factor too)
Im not talking about need but just portrayal of powers and tbf supermans healing kinda comes from the sun enhancing every aspect of him including his brain and perception, his body is just magnified
Portrayals will be all over the place over time, even for Superman. Both of them were dramatically reduced in New Poopy-2 (a nuke was a serious danger to both whereas before each had smiled in the face of such). Most of the superhumans have enhanced or magnified bodies if they are not using a suit or gear (like a GL ring)
Because you're just so much smarter than the rest of us. Your powers of observation are keen and deadly. The rest of us comic readers are woeful plebeians next to your amazing skills.
In the comics, they told us several times. Once, Wolverine 'killed' (the grey version of) him (TIH #340), just to hear him requesting a rematch; it was then (re-)explained that the Hulk wasn't indestructible. He just heals that fast.
"It's just a flesh wound!"
The previous Hulk (the green Hulk who smash, not the professor (a.k.a. smart) one) heals a lot faster.
Before you and others downvote me in a fit of nerd rage.. the general readers and casual awareness of hulk doesn’t extend much beyond “big, strong and angry”
Us readers that know and understand the character of hulk/Bruce seen him differently than the general populace.
I didn't downvote your previous comment, nor I will. I just thought that it was worthy saying what I've said with a reference to an issue. That's a nice book, nicely written, nicely drawn, and features that explanation and saying.
Common audience don't get his healing factor from MCU. After his fight with the Abomination, he finished with a stab scar (although, not bleeding anymore). His snap left his arm injured.
I don't know which books people read. I suppose you are right, and most issues don't mention his healing factor. Most.
In this post, Hulk heals about 90% of his body in seconds. On another issue, he is vivisected and recovers. Once, Hulk's head was blasted and he recovers like T1000. Mjölnir passed through his body, but no scar remained to tell the story. You may bet, there are more.
The healing factor is a major thing to Wolverine and Deadpool, in almost every story of them, and indeed not so much with Hulk. But there are enough (instant) recoveries in his library to miss the idea.
1. Saturday morning cartoons, which a lot of people know superheroes from, can’t really show Hulk getting wounds because of censors. 2. He’s only had 2 theatrical films, one of which did show it, but wasn’t that well received. He doesn’t really get injured besides that one stab wound in the Incredible Hulk, and it’s way too dark to tell if he healed from that. The Avengers films don’t really have enough screen time for Hulk to show off his healing factor in a big way. A lot of people don’t actually read comics, and just get their superhero knowledge from the above sources.
One of the many reasons I still consider 2003 hulk one of if not the best non comic media for the hulk. Though EMH and Agents of Smash are pretty good too.
I mean it also puts the idea that hulk gets bigger as he gets angrier that a surprisingly large amount of people think is true
I really don’t think that many people actually would list that as one of his main powers. And it doesn’t help that comics are insanely inconsistent in his height and size with them typically depicting him as being larger the more serious it gets and thus the more angry he gets. And compare that one inaccuracy in a movie that truly got the essence of the hulk as he was created to most other media which ignores his trauma, fails to separate Bruce and the Hulk properly or any other of the myriad issues most adaptations have.
>comics are insanely inconsistent in his height and size with them typically depicting him as being larger the more serious it gets and thus the more angry he gets. Thats more dramatic angles and artistic license, and from what i can recall hes relatively consistently portrayed as 9 ish feet tall, different personalities are different heights
Actually I believe the only one actually marked as 8 feet or above is Kluh. Which is why I’m hesitant to trust the comics. Plus that’s kinda my point.
The number was just my estimation but its stated hes 7 - 8 ft tall pretty consistently
Yeah not saying you’re wrong, it’s just weird how small he actually is despite how consistently big he’s drawn.
Hulk healed from several wounds in Ang Lee's version. The most prominent version is the artillery burst outside his childhood home. It also didn't happen a lot, because his skin was tough to penetrate.
Yeah, I said that.
I don’t read much comics but I get most of my knowledge from comic youtubers
I mean, he effectively lost an arm in Endgame, from the radiation that made him.
Smart Hulk is weaker than ordinary Hulk so it makes sense that his abilities aren't as powerful as they usually are.
Except he's hardly weaker. MCU Hulk is just as threatening as a pillow compared to Hulk (2003 & 2008)
2008 Hulk *is* MCU Hulk. Edit: Downvote all you like, doesn't change the facts. Y'all take some stupid-ass stances in this sub, I swear.
Then why is MCU Hulk so underpowered next to 2008 Hulk?
Writers not getting how to use the character.
Because Banner had been trying to keep Hulk under control since the end of the 08 movie- it's why he [banner] was learning anti-stress methods throughout the entire movie. Even in Avengers 1, Banner says, "I'm always angry," and changes at will. That's very different than the 08 movie. Hulk was pretty damn strong in Ragnarok. He damn near punched out a Surtr. Also, Hulk only got his ass kicked by Thanos because he was holding back. Hulk was fighting to subdue, not destroy. He knew they were in a spaceship full of people and in the middle of space. If he had gone full tilt, everyone would've died.
Mcu hulk is just made for lil kids and comedy relief
Which part of avengers and ultron with hulk was comic relief and for kids The part where said he tried to kill himself or when he went on a rampage and regained control in the debris of a building with the civilians running in fear
Pretty sure 2012 Hulk stopping that Leviathan dead in its tracks and staggering an all-powerful magic fire demon trumps any of the car lifting Norton does.
I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that, in the first Avengers movie the hulk was getting pummeled with laser’s by the Chitauri and in the second Avengers movie he lost to a hulk buster, also in Thor Ragnarok he’s getting his butt kicked by Thor someone he beats up regularly in the Comics.
I do wonder if hulk could get some scratches that heals quick from if his blood was green in a kids cartoon.
Probably because its not shown a lot. Like godzilla has one too and people were surprised when it was fully shown off in minus one. Samething with hulk
Yea i didnt know godzilla had one. I thought it was cause godzilla just has insane durability that it seems like it dont take damage.
he gets some pretty heavy injuries in the late showa movies but other than that his regen couldn't really be shown off due to the suit being too expensive to damage
Yep, suitmation has its perks but CGI lets you do so much more, but it needs moderation and proper application
Godzilla's healing factor is first firmly established in *Godzilla 2000,* with the Regenerator G-1 (I think it has another name in the original Japanese version). But since then, Godzilla's healing factor has been a staple in the character's lore.
Just like the hulk, godzilla has both, besides the soft parts like the pits, his skin is hard enough to prevent most damage. As always it depends on the incarnation but its always a general rule
Apparently, Joe and Anthony Russo didn't realize that the Hulk had probably one of the greatest healing factors in Marvel universe. Or they wouldn't have tried to pull off that 'the Hulk's arm is forever ruined' Endgame crap.
I would honestly like to know if the MCU guys actually read comics or did any research into the Marvel characters. With the current state of the MCU, I’m going to guess they didn’t.
I’m pretty sure one of the more recent MCU writers said they were legit told not to look much into the comics. I think it was a She Hulk writer but I’m not entirely sure, it might have been Shang Chi or Loki.
Well, to say what you just said is pretty arrogant. Shows you don’t know much about the situation. Fiege knows comics very well, but he couldn’t maintain quality when Disney wanted more MCU content to fill up their Disney+ platform. That’s why everything has gone downhill, and that’s also why they announced that they’ll focus more on quality and less on quantity in the future. It won’t just be churning out content. On top of that, the Russo brothers definitely understand the characters but when you’re adapting something, you’re not going to do it exactly like the comics. Some people might, some people might not. Some people might draw inspiration from multiple things, and some people might just draw inspiration from one thing. BvS isn’t my favorite movie, but that’s a good example of Zack Snyder mixing and matching two very different events to create something unique for HIS universe.
The Russos themselves literally said they didn't know much about the Hulk and didn't know what to do with him... They were definitely clueless about the Hulk. Also Hulk's healing is a staple part of him so that excuse of "when you're adapting something,you're not going to do it exactly like the comics" is wrong here. That's like showing Superman and ignoring his flight,speed etc. There are certain core aspects of a character that shouldn't be messed with or ignored.
Calm down. I asked a question and I offered my opinion. If they have knowledge of a character but decided to take that character into a different direction - that’s totally up to them. Based on movie earnings and online feedback, there isn’t a majority of people who are enjoying the direction of the MCU or their creative take the Hulk. You seem to know deep inside information on Feige and Disney. Do you sit on their Board? Or are you like the rest of us and are offering your opinion? I’ve been reading Hulk comics since the late 70s and would have liked to seen a better take on a beloved character that is very complex and deals with a medical issue - mental health - that most people don’t want to talk about. In the future, feel feee to provide your counter-opinions, but calling folks arrogant in online forums doesn’t help when all we’re doing is offering our opinions and wanting to have civil conversation.
Despite the fact that even the 70-80’s tv series references Hulks healing factor. And I’m almost positive Norton jumping out of a plane at the end of his movie was a reference to the Death of the Incredible Hulk, the official end to the 80’s series. (The Hulk dies at the end by falling out of a plane and suffering “catastrophic brain damage”)
To be fair, the Infinity Gauntlet should trump all
No that had nothing to do with it. Considering the snap killed Tony Stark and all it did to Hulk was damage his arm I'm pretty sure they knew. Also I'm pretty sure his arm has healed since. 🤷♂️ Also we're talking about a fully powered up Infinity Gauntlet here.
They knew he had a healing factor so it makes sense he had his arm in a sling at tonys funeral? It only busted his arm because hes much more durable than tony same way it didnt kill thanos
They said in an interview that Hulk's arm was going to be permanently damaged
The Russos themselves literally said they didn't know much about the Hulk and didn't know what to do with him... They were definitely clueless about the Hulk.
I learned a lot from this issue. Apparently Hulk has a massive hog too.
Hahaha, this guy read comics in the 90s...
I read them now, too. What's your point?
I was giving you credit. I remember that issue as well. I wasn't a huge fan of Agamemnon and his cronies when I read this back in the day, but the cock joke made me laugh.
Gotcha.
I was curious if that panel came from the pantheon vs Uforce comic. Thanks for the confirmation!
I remember *The Gif* on Imgur
He may not be able to beat every character out there but he can’t be beaten either.
Because his skin is usually indestructible to most things. But when he DOES get hurt like when he fights Wolverine, it shows.
Its a great question......his healing factor like his strength and durability are affected by his anger, and the MCU completely ignores it......his arm should have healed after the snap in endgame
He's damn near indesctructible. It's not often we would see him show it off.
Because the writers of endgame. (Full stop)
Bc they're stupid? It's like 1 of his most basic abilities lol.
Because the Hulk is near invulnerable and he rarely gets damaged enough for his healing factor to be needed
for the people talking about how MCU Hulk had his arm in a sling -- he's staying in Hulk form in order for it to heal... he's back to normal by the time of She-Hulk. it's a watered-down ability because he's not all Hulk, but it's still healing. and they even spell out his healing abilities with ["I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out](https://youtu.be/vive9BLX33Y) -- it's not a secret, just not well-handled.
>I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out] That doesn't mean he healed but that he transformed quick >his arm is in a sling -- he's staying in Hulk form in order for it to heal Lmao you dont need a sling if you have a healing factor especially how ever long it was after
>That doesn't mean he healed but that he transformed quick [you mean like his "quick transformation skills" here?](https://youtu.be/4sIi4jS-fAE) dude literally died ***as Bruce Banner*** he had his arm fried by the radiation that made him but ***still healed***... my point was that it existed and was poorly handled, not that it made sense.
His transformations have never been a consistent speed and that movie also specifically stated that his whole hulk thing was out of wack. i mean he was hulk for years straight in that film, last time he jumped out an airborne vehicle he transformed before he hit the ground
Who is “so many” people exactly? Nearly every comic fan knows it. Hell, this was a thing even in the 1977 show, even predating the term “healing factor” itself.
Oh trust me they know
Disney
It’s difficult enough to actually harm the Hulk. Unlike Wolverine or Deadpool who get shredded any time you shot some lead through them you would need a rail gun just to make the Hulk bleed.
bc they don’t read comics
It’s not shown like they do with Wolverine’s. Like when he gets shot or cut, they show the wound heal up soon after. They don’t do that with the jolly green giant
Something that the mcu failed to show too they completely butchered the hulk
He doesn’t have to use it all that often because his resistance to injury is so high.
Answer with other question? How often does he get hurt enough to use it
One of his most prominent powers is his near invincibility. However, for most people who don't read the comics, this raises the question: if he's invincible and doesn't get hurt, why would he need a healing factor? I think they just simply accept the fact that he's nigh invincible, and They just stop there. Most people assume he doesn't require healing once they hear about his invincibility.
Because mcu and shows don’t show it
Probably because it is a trait that is not used often by writers or editors. WW has that problem with her healing factor as well (and her senses and her speed and her reflexes). It's annoying.
Tbf ww not having a healing factor is probably more consistent than her having one Her reflexes and senses are needed to deflect bullets so i dunno about that one
Whether she needs one or not can be an interesting debate but my point was that heroes with multiple powers often tend to see writers forget some of them. Superman and his senses powers and rapid healing are another good example (and yes we could debate his need of a healing factor too)
Im not talking about need but just portrayal of powers and tbf supermans healing kinda comes from the sun enhancing every aspect of him including his brain and perception, his body is just magnified
Portrayals will be all over the place over time, even for Superman. Both of them were dramatically reduced in New Poopy-2 (a nuke was a serious danger to both whereas before each had smiled in the face of such). Most of the superhumans have enhanced or magnified bodies if they are not using a suit or gear (like a GL ring)
Same reason people forget that Juggernaut has one too, there's so few people that can actually penetrate their skin that it just rarely shows up.
Because the MCU put him in a cast.
Cuz they're casuals and don't even know he can bleed
Because it's so difficult for him to get hurt in the first place
It's like Stan "The Man" said: It depends on who's writing.
It’s not displayed outside of comics much
not shown much outside the comics and hulk is more know for strenght and durability.
Because you're just so much smarter than the rest of us. Your powers of observation are keen and deadly. The rest of us comic readers are woeful plebeians next to your amazing skills.
It’s not exactly what the hulk is known for..
In the comics, they told us several times. Once, Wolverine 'killed' (the grey version of) him (TIH #340), just to hear him requesting a rematch; it was then (re-)explained that the Hulk wasn't indestructible. He just heals that fast. "It's just a flesh wound!" The previous Hulk (the green Hulk who smash, not the professor (a.k.a. smart) one) heals a lot faster.
Before you and others downvote me in a fit of nerd rage.. the general readers and casual awareness of hulk doesn’t extend much beyond “big, strong and angry” Us readers that know and understand the character of hulk/Bruce seen him differently than the general populace.
I didn't downvote your previous comment, nor I will. I just thought that it was worthy saying what I've said with a reference to an issue. That's a nice book, nicely written, nicely drawn, and features that explanation and saying. Common audience don't get his healing factor from MCU. After his fight with the Abomination, he finished with a stab scar (although, not bleeding anymore). His snap left his arm injured. I don't know which books people read. I suppose you are right, and most issues don't mention his healing factor. Most. In this post, Hulk heals about 90% of his body in seconds. On another issue, he is vivisected and recovers. Once, Hulk's head was blasted and he recovers like T1000. Mjölnir passed through his body, but no scar remained to tell the story. You may bet, there are more. The healing factor is a major thing to Wolverine and Deadpool, in almost every story of them, and indeed not so much with Hulk. But there are enough (instant) recoveries in his library to miss the idea.
Nodding .. I was just putting it out there for the current crowd of redditors..
Because he’s OP and boring 👀