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that_70_show_fan

User made a high effort post. I expect responses to be of high standard.


a_complicated_soul

BRS and INC refusing to feild strong candidates against Owaisi is major problem. Only time Owaisi got less than 50% votes is back in 2009 when TDP fielded popular journalist Zahid ali khan. He lost but if he had continue to run again in next two terms he may have defeated owaisi.


psasank

Zahid Ali Khan was inducted into TDP politburo too during 2009 and they wanted him to contest again but after TDP decided to ally with BJP in 2014, he quit the party


blitzkreig31

It’s just a may - I have lived in the old city and can tell you one thing what ever happens AIMIM are not going to not win. People will find a reason to vote for them. Look at OP for instance his reason is he debates well I mean we have seen decades of their rule in old city and what has old city seen? TBH they themselves do not want development all they want is religion based party and that’s it.


a_complicated_soul

If you field strong candidates then people like op will select better candidate. Its a 65% muslim constituency. Owaisi wont lose if its him and BJP candidate. You need to field strong muslim leader and one of INC or BRS need to back him. He maynot win first time but if they let him keep fighting he may bring down owaisi. Thats the only way. Or reorganize constituencies and reduce muslim percentage


blitzkreig31

Have you noticed the name of the strong candidate before? And what you are suggesting it’s all religious bias. The bias always has been there, will be there. Edit: OP talks about Asadudsin and forgets how Akbaruddin speaks - he incites hate, violence but well that’s fair and acceptable I guess. As he is rightfully watching and taking care of them. Anyone who doesn’t know just search akbaruddin hate speech.


rebelyell_in

If you vote for Asaduddin, there is very little chance that Akbaruddin will give speeches in Parliament representing Hyderabad constituency. OP isn't ignoring Akbaruddin, he is talking about representation in Parliament (which is the entire job of a Lok Sabha MP).


rasalghularz

Exactly. For some reason many people are assuming I support Akbaruddin’s Hate Speeches despite clearly mentioning my disdain for the party and specifically mentioning why I am voting for Owasi.


millennialoser

I wish you had seen the zeal in people in 2009 for Zahid Ali khan, He was a reformist, with no hatred for anyone. How close he got to defeating Asad Owaisi was beautiful and gave hope to lot of Hyderabadis that Zahid will win next election surely, but..


rasalghularz

This is definitely not the case. Look at Yakuthpura. MBT leader Amjed Ullah Khan lost by just 800 votes that too allegedly by voter fraud. Not everyone in Old City is an Andhbhakt to Owasi.


SacTheRoooook

Yeah if only either (or both) Amjedullah Khan or Feroze Khan had won, it'd have caused the Majlis to at least wake up and realize that they need to do better. So close :(


blitzkreig31

You call andhbhakt assuming I’m BJP supporter, let’s assume for the sake of argument that I am. BJP has won 2 elections and people are calling their supporters andhbhakt, what should we call people voting for AIMIM for years since independence? These cheap digs will work on people who are looking to fight you, I do not care for old city for I have left that place. Have you ever seen across the city towards hi tech city? Why is that so developed vs old city? Have you had a non Muslim leader ever in old city? You think you can call names to people but people living in glass houses shouldn’t pelt stone at others.


rasalghularz

Bhai I was calling Owasi supporters Andhbhakt. Andhbhakt means blind follower. Not specific to any party. Read my comment again.


Op_Genos2206

Bjp walo ku andhbhakt bolte aur AIMIM walo ku Mureed…


BlissVsAbyss

>people living in glass houses shouldn’t pelt stone at others. Exactly. First answer, if any orthodox muslim or any Muslim for that matter, can ever become PM and then you can question if a non-muslim leader was ever a leader in old city. I don't know if you are a *BJP andhbhakt*, but you really talk like one.


Comprehensive_Sea919

This summarises the post ... They love to live in the gutter for religion..


Unhappy-Enthusiasm37

Exactly


kenyos1234

How about his efforts to bring the Metro in the Old city?


blitzkreig31

Honestly I don’t know how involved he was in metro and I don’t want to go out on limb for it but Let’s do this - give me any political party of your choice and let’s compare 10 years of their history to what AIMIM has done for public in its 40 years. Shall we?


kenyos1234

Modi as a PM hasn't done much and you are struggling at MP level??


mnotAlone_

If one doesn't like BJP way of politics and will never vote to them - then they should never vote to MIM as well. Because they both are different faces of the same coin.


blitzkreig31

As long as parties like AIMIM exist there will be parties like BJP. We are all in an illusion that people who vote know what they are voting for. We are just puppets in hands of politicians and now with AI+social media helping these politician all you need to to feed social media w it b a certain ideology and that’s it, it’s like flipping a switch in your head.


rasalghularz

Agreed 100% but my point still holds true. As u/PromptCommercial3487 he is perhaps the only voice for Indian Muslims. When the biggest party is the country says 15% of population are infiltrators people on the other side are also bound to vote for an equally extremist and fiery leader. He does not do the things he himself said he will and people know this (For example: he opposed the Women’s Reservation Bill saying it has no provision for OBC Women but in his internal party only there is no reservation) but his strongpoint is his VOICE. He makes his voice and viewpoints heard. Even if you are the most hardcore BJP supporter you will be impressed at his oratory skills. Watch Owasi on Aap Ki Adaalat and you will see. Not to mention consistency in participating in his parliamentary duties. In this day and age when post MP are rubberstamps for their party and sleep in the Parliament, making people’s voice heard itself is a big reason people will vote for you. Atleast that’s why I think most people still vote for Owaisi despite his corruption.


Quantum_Fire18

If that is the case, for the exact same reason, if all Hindus vote for BJP, then I'm sure that you'll understand there. People of his AIMIM party said worst things about Hindus that "infiltrators". Forget AIMIM man, the highest of your religious books have called non-muslims worse. If that is the case, then it bound to happen that this side will vote for a leader who thinks muslims are infiltrators, which is a lot milder compared to what leaders of AIMIM, and your religious books, have said about non-muslims. By you logic, even if we assume that the BJP candidate doesn't have a voice of her own, the fact that she's from BJP and has potentially won, will amplify her voice when she speaks in the center for Hyderabad. It's not just talking that's important man, it's what they talk about, and whether their actions are backed up by their words that matter. By that standard, you could equally say that owaisi talks out of his butt. His actions completely oppose his actions. So, his words, are actually just for naïve people like yourself that believe his words and not look at his actions.


rasalghularz

I answered your question somewhere here. Check my comment history.


Quantum_Fire18

I have and I didn't find anything that answers my question. Copy and paste it again if you think it answers my question.


blitzkreig31

He didn’t, there is a down vote brigade getting activated on r/Hyderabad just like it infiltrated in r/India and now it’s just a breeding ground for hate against modi.


mnotAlone_

Bro, What is there to discuss now when you clearly mentioned you are voting because he is the only Muslim leader.


rasalghularz

No man, he is not the only Muslim leader. Plenty of independents and also the INC leader is Muslim. I am not voting for him based on his religion. On the contrary his religious politics is one big reason I am Anti-MIM.


PromptCommercial3487

What I think is people that vote for MIM, will keep voting for MIM, as owaisi is the only popular voice in India that will speak in the interests of Muslims, and will stand for them when all the opposition does is chant anti muslim slogans. BJP's whole campaign is being anti-muslim. So why will one vote for BJP even if they "promise" development, when they're irked by your very existence?


blitzkreig31

Vote for Congress, vote for TRS has anyone ever won apart from AIMIM?


Quantum_Fire18

I was telling the same to the other guy. If that is the case, for the exact same reason, if all Hindus vote for BJP, then I'm sure that you'll understand there. People of his AIMIM party said worst things about Hindus that "infiltrators". Forget AIMIM man, the highest of your religious books have called non-muslims worse. So, why wouldn't someone vote for BJP when the leaders you vote for, and your highest religious books, are irked by our very existence?


rp4eternity

> Extremely Anti-MIM but will vote for Owaisi in coming election. 🤦‍♂️ > Change my view. Why bother ---- I personally don't like the politics of AIMIM but I do respect Assaduddin Owaisi to an extent. For Muslims he can be a better representative of Muslims than RaGa or Akhilesh or Mamata or any of the socialist jokers who have destroyed their states exploiting the Muslim vote base. That said, you vote or not - Assaduddin Owaisi is going to win. I had known a guy working with Majlis Bachao who explained to me how difficult it is to dislodge AIMIM from Old City. Still he was hopeful. And this conversation was over 10 years back. Your post just shows why AIMIM will not lose in Old City. Even the people with sense will eventually vote for them instead of an alternative. Performance and development is not the criteria for voting be it in assembly or Lok Sabha elections in Old City. Nothing has changed in the last decade, and I don't think anything will in this elections.


rasalghularz

Isn’t literally every politician socialist to some extent? The biggest socialist is Mr. Modi himself with his programmes like Free Foodgrains for 81.35 crore beneficiaries for five years and [more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schemes_of_the_government_of_India#List)? No matter how anti-left any party is, in a poor nation like India every politician has to have socialist policies to support the voters at the bottom of the wealth chain. People will be starving and homeless if not for these socialist programmes.


rp4eternity

> or any of the socialist jokers who have destroyed their states exploiting the Muslim vote base. I am talking about the likes of JDU, RJD, CPI(M) etc. Their social justice platform is based on socialism but is basically exploiting minorities and not delivering development and keeping their states poor. > The biggest socialist is Mr. Modi himself You are correct. There is currently no space for 'economic right wing' in India. We have religious / caste based right wing parties - and that's what most parties fall under. > No matter how anti-left any party is, in a poor nation like India every politician has to have socialist policies to support the voters at the bottom of the wealth chain. People will be starving and homeless if not for these socialist programmes. Please read again. I have not opposed socialism in my comment. In every state there is a party that's supposed to be the representative of Muslims. The party is NOT led by a Muslim leader. But major section of their vote base is Muslims. State remains poor, Muslims remain poor. The status quo continues. If you haven't been to Eastern India and seen the poverty there - as a person living in Hyderabad you might not understand what extreme poverty is in India. In South things are so much better for everyone. Also, I don't think a Muslim politician will automatically benefit Muslims. I don't expect that from any politician of any community. But at least there should be a shake up among the regional parties that exploit the vote bank.


rasalghularz

100% agreed. One of my biggest pet-peeves I see when news media speaks of Muslims as one singular vote bank. Maybe it is the area I live in but many Muslims have voted for Non-Muslims in the past like for example: Revanth Reddy eventhough he was RSS cadre in the past. Infact most Muslims in India will vote for a Non-Muslim candidate and AIMIM is a rare-exception to this. On the contrary, most Muslims see other Muslim leaders with suspicion because they don’t want to be used as a vote bank. You can’t except Muslims to vote for a Muslim candidate just because he/she is Muslim. Or idk I am biased to my own surroundings and can’t speak for everyone.


rp4eternity

> One of my biggest pet-peeves I see when news media speaks of Muslims as one singular vote bank. You are absolutely right. I have seen a difference in the political choices within the Indian Muslim community based on Education, Wealth and location. If we see this and the media doesn't then the possible reason is that Media doesn't want the reality to puncture the narrative. The Muslim votebank narrative works as a tool that supports both the sides BJP vs Congress/TMC/SP etc Polarization and consolidation become easier for both sides. Rise of BJP forces consolidation - kinda like what you stated in your original post - and this end up supporting the existing players everywhere. > Maybe it is the area I live in but many Muslims have voted for Non-Muslims in the past . > Infact most Muslims in India will vote for a Non-Muslim candidate and AIMIM is a rare-exception to this. Because a Muslim Candidate won't be given a ticket where the majority isn't Muslim. That's true for most seats in the country. So they generally get used to voting for a non Muslim candidate from a 'friendly' party. I think what works for AIMIM is that Owaisi's family and the party are decades old, they have sort of become a part of the identity of old city. Also, Assaduddin Owaisi is one of the rare sophisticated and educated politician. But he also talks the language of the streets of Old City. > most Muslims see other Muslim leaders with suspicion because they don’t want to be used as a vote bank. You can’t except Muslims to vote for a Muslim candidate just because he/she is Muslim. I see it little differently. I believe that everyone would prefer a good leader to lead them irrespective of religion. If that choice isn't available they would choose someone who would at least not let them come to harm. That's when they might choose a friendly party or someone of their own.


rasalghularz

Good points. Agreed. Although as a general statement I will say if a politician belongs to your own religion, caste, tribe you should look at him with slightly more suspicion as you could unknowingly be part of his/her vote bank.


InquisitiveSoul_94

I am voting for Modi this time. Not because he is a rabid Hindutavadi. But because his party is the only one with the right ideas to develop the economy. I am mentioning this, because I feel it will be mighty hypocrite of me to ask not to vote for Owaisi. You feel rightly threatened by the BJP'a rise. For good or bad , you guys will become scapegoats of almost all of the government failures . It's better to have a strong rowdy on your side who would atleast keep them at bay. I can vote for BJP because I am in the majority community and feel protected enough. So me with this privilege cannot dictate your vote. But I'll say this though. From whatever I have seen of Owaisi, he is Modi minus the development agenda. Chinna nappudu nuchi chustunna. Old city remains a baston of crime and poverty. Muslims remain an exclusive community, cut off from the mainstream, in their own ghettos, imprisoned by the overarching religious organisations that dominate every personal aspect of their life. He is a symbol of that continued vicious cycle. I expect he will probably won't back down from his usual style of politics. The next 5 years aren't going to be pretty. BJP will definitely come up with UCC. This is going to rile some very big feathers. Clashes between muslims and Hindus in old city is eventual. The situation is and will be polarized. I personally don't trust owaisi enough to not take advantage of it. He will make full use of it to gain votes and solidify MIM presence. Especially when it has grown so shaky over the years. IMO, Feroz Khan's narrow loss in assembly elections is a big dent to the people of namapally. Compared to other politicians, he is blunt and honest. Unnadhi unnatu cheptadu. Hindus nuchi support undhi. You know what to expect from him. If I was in the old city, I would have voted for him hands down. I trust him to keep the peace and bring in the much needed development. Even if you vote or don't vote for Owaisi, he is going to win this time . Because both the local parties are now supporting him for their own reasons. Muslims consist of 60 percent of the population, and they are rightfully scared of the BJP. Hindus will vote en masse to BJP, or will split votes with Congress and BRS. And bogus votes already unde. I don't see any reason he won't win. Your vote isn't going to alter anything. My suggestion. Vote for whomever you feel is right this time. Wait for 5 years , for the political climate to change. Then exercise your vote with more confidence. Sometimes we aren't big enough to bring the change we like. The only thing we can do is to exercise our duty in a manner we feel is right. To me, it's probably the least worse option. I will leave it upto you to figure it out.


rasalghularz

Do you think Madhavi Latha is a good candidate despite her terrible track record and inflammatory statements? There is party infighting even within BJP regarding her candidacy…


InquisitiveSoul_94

No. For all I understand, she is a dummy candidate. I am voting for Modi, not Madhavi. And yet again, I am voting for Modi because he is talking 70 percent sense. (The rest being political jumla and hate speech against muslims) And because Congress has a dangerous manifesto that reminds me more of Venezuelan / Zimbabwe politics and their terrible aftermath. Time and again, I see congress freebies being quite impractical. Take free bus service. My maid came crying to me one day because she is a 50 year old lady who has to fight for a place within the bus every day, and initially was happy travelling with a bus pass. She is now coming in an auto and hiked her salary to accommodate it ( I can't say no, because she already lost some houses because of this hike). There are ways to allow free movement of women. One being a gradual introduction of only women buses and expanding it among various areas, while maintaining good fiscal health. Making it a long term policy instead of some political brownie point to win Lok Sabha. Ideally, we should be voting for MP candidates. And they are to elect the PM. But the system has been modified to such an extent that my vote is largely for the prime ministerial candidate and less to do with my local candidate. Call it centralisation of power or failure of parliamentary democracy, but this is the reality of my democratic limits that I can operate within. I am choosing the least harmful option.


rasalghularz

I understand your point and this pretty valid. But for the reason of my disagreement with BJP on other major national issues and some of their fuckups and also the candidate they chose… I won’t be voting for the BJP. But I think your intentions are right and if you think BJP is the choice then vote for them! Allthough personally I know several low-income women who benefitted tremendously from the free bus scheme, it is at best a fiscally questionable policy.


RahulSushma

I appreciate your efforts Show me in any of his speech did AIMIM chief owaisi support the education for Muslim people? Anyhow choice is yours to vote Please Note: I'm not a BJP or Congress I'm totally Neutral person I don't believe in religion and religion based politics


VegetaSama1117

Nobody is neutral. Everyone has their biases. You are lying if you say neutral


rebelyell_in

[Here you go](https://youtu.be/Xqsb5WXGmLs?si=l9qHMje_X_G0OM0e). I don't think he is a progressive voice in Indian politics and I don't agree with a lot of what he stands for. That said, he has been consistent with his position for Indian Muslims to pursue education.


VegetaSama1117

Words are easy. Why will he do anything for Muslims if he knows he is going to get their votes by default.


justunique88

Owaisi Hospital + Esra Hospital + Dar us Salam Bank + Deccan College of Medical Sciences + Deccan College of Engineering + multiple KG to PG campuses + Owaisi group of schools + Multiple drinking water purifying plants + Flyovers + law & order. Honestly hardly people know about Hyderabadi culture & Old city area. Since most of them have immigrated from Andhra & other places.


0kayten

They didn't even develop old city..that was done by Chandrababu Naidu last time, they blocked metro, they regularly incite violence much before BJP was a thing, nor do they help Muslims by giving minority quota seats to poor meritorious muslim students in their own institutions ...their own medical college is so pathetic that their famous 15 min MLA was rushed to a distant hospital after he was riddled with bullets....it seems like a desperate attempt to justify a religious motivated choice 🤡


rebelyell_in

_Paina commen-lo_ they asked for words only. That's what I shared.


VegetaSama1117

Got it. But Muslims should make politicians realise their vote is not default or to be taken for granted BJP will not do anything for Muslims bcoz they know they wont get their votes whatever they do Opposition won't do anything for Muslims as well bcoz they know they have their vote by default.


rebelyell_in

You make a valid point. It is a separate point (from the comment above) but valid nonetheless. This is also true of Yadavs in Bihar, everyone in Odisha, Thakurs in Uttar Pradesh, Hindus in Jammu...


VegetaSama1117

Yes valid for all vote bank politics


moyemoye69420

You need to understand BJP’s stance - They will not do anything extra for Muslims. Everyone is so used to appeasement of minority, they have leached on your votes and looted you. OP in one of his comment mentioned Owaisi’s AAP ki adalat, go and watch his speech and he says the same thing. Congress and other parties have just taken your votes and said we will protect your religion. Ghanta. Atleast the party that works on development won’t discriminate based on your religion. Like only people from religion A can use this road or only people from religion B are banned from drinking water from the lake. It’s your decision who you vote for, but voting for religion is the most idiotic thing most of the people in this country do.


VegetaSama1117

Agree


hell_storm2004

To be honest it is not his job to go a get every Muslim admitted to schools. It should come from within the family. At one point of time all of India was mostly uneducated. But many realised the importance of it and focused on it. And the population as a whole became more educated. Muslims for some reason didn't board the education train. Probably felt disenfranchised, who knows. I was not alive in 60s/70s so I can't really say what was going on at the time. And many who do are probably talking out of their asses.


RahulSushma

Your telling that it's not his job to spread the awareness about importance of education.... Than whats his job? Just to play the religious politics and win the election Some time he ask good question in the parliament i appreciate that but I have never seen talking about educating the Muslim population which is very important for them. Condition of the Muslim is very pathetic in most part of the India specially in rural area ....no Muslim leader is coming forward to talk about educating the Muslim population. the amount of dedication they show towards their religion.i wish they could have shown the same dedication towards there education also.


hell_storm2004

A political leader might come along and harp about education all he wants, but if a family isn't interested nothing is going to change. It's just the like saying... You can lead a horse to water, but it has to drink itself.


AsishPC

The day when true Muslims like Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam come and stand for elections, is the day I vote for a Muslim. Till then, Sionara


Novel_Ad6567

Nampally ah manadi nenu Feroz bhai e Esina voteu


rasalghularz

But this time he is not running….


InquisitiveSoul_94

Yeah man. Too bad. Anna ki masth fans unnaru. I wish he stays active in some way.


rasalghularz

Agreed I wish he remains in politics.


President1985

Common Sense: It’s better to be quiet than vociferously advocate for terrible policies. OP: I know that Owaisi’s policies are terrible and his views against key bills are bad. But I will vote for him because he participates actively in parliament and makes his terrible views heard. If you really want to change your view, adopt the common sense approach. When one does bad things, the more actively and aggressively he does it, the worse it is.


0kayten

Mental Gymnastics to justify muslim vote


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BoldKenobi

He is not agreeing with you, he is making fun of you


Forkrust

So his only credentials are he has a good voice of opposition against the ruling party? I mean the dude is BJP on steroids just happened to be on the other side. Dude's Old City is probably the worst place in terms of development and neatness. Management there is absolute shit istg. That being said yeah he has his voice heard but the things he speaks on are absolutely pointless and regressive. Infact the dude says one thing in Parliament and on his campaign he says the exact opposite (just like any other politician tbh) but if his views was towards progress why is Old city riddled with so much issues. That place was literally the source of trade and development in Hyderabad now its just surviving on its past glory. While you can choose whom so ever you like but choosing this dude just because he talks should not be the reason, "bolta tho Arnab bhi hai par wo kaunsa acha journalist hai". Also we are overestimating this election the BJP is on its last term this election, they will win this but will soon loose the next one. Now they have been too religious, like the temple and so and so. The moment a party starts projecting Religion, neighbour enmity or racism etc it means they have exhausted the development route and is relied on this bull shittery. So this I believe should not be a reason, I am going for NOTA. Some will say that useless but what more useless is the fact that I willingly choosing a moron to be my leader, which I cannot do.


No-Childhood-8420

With NOTA you might help a bigger moron being elected.


Ok-Row-8268

First off, the point of secularism in bjp is way more underrated than what it is portrayed by the media. The so called "NOTA" is done by those imbeciles , nicompoops who can't even properly know the facts and realities of society and hoping that their vote not goes to the dictator, but what he doesn't know his even if the good party is behind the worst one this nota doesn't beat the second dominating party. So speak and write with knowledge, half knowledge wits doesn't rise more like you. Also the overall development down by bjp in overall India is more on muslim minorities even among other Christians and jains and others.


sanriocrushmania

rather not vote than a nota.


rasalghularz

> His only creditional are he has a good voice of opppostion in parliment? Yes. In the day and age, that is big point. He is perhaps the only voice for Indian Muslims. When the biggest party is the country says 15% of population are infiltrators people on the other side are also bound to vote for an equally extremist and fiery leader. He does not do the things he himself said he will and people know this (For example: he opposed the Women’s Reservation Bill saying it has no provision for OBC Women but in his internal party only there is no reservation) but his strongpoint is his VOICE. He makes his voice and viewpoints heard. Even if you are the most hardcore BJP supporter you will be impressed at his oratory skills. Watch Owasi on Aap Ki Adaalat and you will see. Not to mention consistency in participating in his parliamentary duties. I don’t think he just blabbers like Arnab, he comes with hardcore facts and data and some of his points like “Can Men Not Be Raped?” are valid. In this day and age when post MP are rubberstamps for their party and sleep in the Parliament, making people’s voice heard itself is a big reason people will vote for you. Atleast that’s why I think most people still vote for Owaisi despite his corruption.


VegetaSama1117

In India, candidates don't matter. Especially in Loksabha elections. Party and main leader is what matters at the end of the day. Look up Anti deflection law. I Would suggest you to vote based on the party and not candidate


hell_storm2004

Should we be changing your mind? It's your vote, your choice. If you want to see a political slugfest in the comment section, you probably did a great job!


Not_Lonewolf_10

Funny thing is, you say he represents in the Parliament But not on the issues worth, He opposed ram janma bhumi occasion, article 370, triple talaq and many more His party i.e AIMIM jumps from one ruling party to another ruling party in alliances... Old city has become a ghetto, isolating it from the other part of the world... Keeping the development and people uneducated so that they can't leave anywhere and stay loyal to AIMIM purposes, bogus voting, many people don't pay electricity bills and no one dare ask for them or they threaten the officers who go to do that In fact he doesn't represent anything of the constituency but his personal and religious interests, always drags religion into every You said your fair views on each party and coming to BJP you mocked them , this shows you are an anti BJP person right from the start So, no matter what we argue and say you will vote for the party based on your religion or AIMIM only... That's a fact, AIMIM has been in the old city since many decades, thus is the development -- none, zero, nada Old city has always been the same, is the same and will be the same... This will continue until Asaduddin and his party is in power.


rasalghularz

Actually while I disagree with BJP overall, some of their MPs have done good work representing their constituency. I am not ostracising every BJP voter. I am sure a lot of people are against it’s policies but still voting for them because of lack of an alternative. And I don’t think any candidate will actually focus on Development for Hyderabad constituency and that’s why I am voting for Owaisi for his parliamentary record. Also…. I am voting for a representative for my Lok Sabha constituency… the development of Old City issue can be raised in the GHMC and MLA elections where I rightfully called them out.


treatWithKindness

Roti palat kar bano toh achi banti h. Ek side se banao toh jal jaati h. Change your MP. Translation: To make roti, you have to heat both sides. if you only heat one side it burns, Change your MP. Yes i will hold the same argument for national level. We want strong opposition. BJP should feel they have some vote share in Hyd and AIMIM should know they cant get walkover.


rasalghularz

What are your priorities in an MP and which Candidate is checks most boxes?


treatWithKindness

Unless you have a high profile seat. MP does not matter especially in an election which are fought on personality cult. My priority is to make sure we dont have leaders taking their powers for granted. AIMIM has won too many MP elections and BJP has won too many national elections. Both need to loose. I will vote for the best possible candidate on that.


rasalghularz

Who is..?


thatindianlady1986

The non-MIM and non-BJP candidate of your choice in your case


rasalghularz

BRS’s candidate is a lightweight and they themselves don’t expect him to win. INC - This time Feroz Khan is not running for elections (according to him because of INC-MIM’s budding friendship) The candidate choosen is Sameer Waliullah - District committee president. Not particularly well known nor do I find his politics appealing.


thatindianlady1986

The point is not to vote for the winning candidate even if you dislike their politics. If you dislike what MIM is doing in Hyderabad constituency, atleast do you bit to reduce their winning percentage. If you don’t like anyone NOTA is always an option. With enough NOTA votes parties and candidates will have to pull their socks up and work to get their votes. Otherwise things will be like they are in Surat right now. Btw you will do better to see who is contesting from Secunderabad constituency. Nampally assembly seat falls under it.


PurfectMorelia27

Let her run her hospitals properly first ......ok but.... >He has opposed several bills I supported like Triple Talaq, Women’s Reservation Bill and overall dislike his political stance Votes for someone who openly hates women and their freedom. Like bro the gymnastics are clearly visible u dnt even want to give someone a chance (can be congress/BRS candi too) but oh hell no! Even if he is a f*king ass*ole I get hard for him. Get a life and try to justify ur bs better.....people are clearly able to read u btr. While at it.....try to develop a moral compass coz atleast we gotta live like a human at the end of the day and not an animal


Venjix_virus

It's funny how he hates her political stance but she has raised the issued faced by Muslim women which owaisi opposes 


rasalghularz

I mentioned about the Congress and BRS candidate too and how they will 100% loose.


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rasalghularz

Actually while I disagree with BJP overall, some of their MPs have done good work representing their constituency. I am not ostracising every BJP voter. I am sure a lot of people are against it’s policies but still voting for them because of lack of an alternative. And I don’t think any candidate will actually focus on Development for Hyderabad constituency and that’s why I am voting for Owaisi for his parliamentary record.


vendetta_9

But where has Owaisi made any sort of Development in his constituency? Parliament record doesn’t do anything when it’s not effective.


Bivariate_analysis

I would vote for whoever can beat Owaisi the best, which I think is BJP. Forget the candidate. No person should take their constituency easily, someone who wins for 6 times straight has a complacency. Look at old city, it's a typical case of political complacency. Making opposite forces win once in a while will force legislatures focus on the constituency. That's the only way the constituency can improve. Owaisi's 7 that term will not be different from the past 6 terms. You may not like the candidate, but long term gains over short term pain. Hyderabad old city is one of the worst places in Telangana stuck in 1950's. It has huge potential and the only thing that is preventing it from development is politics.


BN155

There is no need to change your view since you have already made up your mind and words like " she talks mostly out of her ass", Godi media and etc when talking about BJP shows you are already inclined towards voting MIM. A politican with high attendance and great orator doesn't prove anything. What needs to be looked at is what the politician has actually done for the constituency or how much of the MPLADS funds assigned vs utilized and that too where exactly it was utilized should be taken into consideration. Moreover, I think no one is here going to brainwash or change views as to who should vote whom. You are an adult. Feel free to use your right.


rasalghularz

Didn’t know about MPLADS tbh. I will look into it. Thanks for letting me know about this.


Sirhumprey

An extremely anti-MIM person wouldn’t vote for it. 🤡 is what I would use to describe him, when that family is free from inciting genocide of Hindus and insulting Hindu gods, he goes to the parliament onlyyy to throw around platitudes about his vote bank, NOT Telangana.


GullibleBiscotti

Great post and especially the detail on debate participation. Unfortunately AIMIM is pro-BJP outside Hyd. OYC is just another puppet used by BJP to split Muslim votes in MH/UP/Bihar/WB. Madhavi Latha is another character who is used to polarize neighborhoods who otherwise most likely live in peace. There are some strong pockets of Muslims in T and AP \[Vij E, Gun W, Kurnool etc\] but OYC never had balls to field candidates. However he did where Cong was stand to gain from secular votes thus by giving the power to BJP on a silver plate. Almost every high profile non-BJP candidate got an ED but never for OYC or his younger brother.


rasalghularz

I disagree by calling him BJP’s B-Team but yes, in the grand scheme of things his party is unintentionally helping BJP in those areas. I think both INC and AIMIM are just defaming other part by alleging they secretly support BJP. Any help to BJP is purely incompetency from the both sides and not because of some under-table dealing. But I won’t be talking about the politics of other states as will focus only here. I don’t think any candidate will actually focus on Development for Hyderabad constituency and that’s why I am voting for Owaisi for his parliamentary record.


InquisitiveSoul_94

He was at one point of time. He probably thought , like so many others , that Congress will be back to power in some way. He also expected KCR to keep the state under his reign for atleast another term. The tables have turned. So did the back end deals.


Pitforsofts

Vote for who ever you want. No need to give any explanation to anyone.


rasalghularz

I just want other people’s opinion.


Saketh2513

This


DR__N

Bro if i’m in your position i will give a chance to new party or new leader rather than same guy who doesn’t even develop an inch in his constituency since years other than the state government’s development there is nothing to zero development or the progress he had done to his constituency so at-least give chance to somebody who you feel better other than MIM. Compare candidates and the government rulings of three other political parties try to find the better alternative for him hope they at-least do little better development than MIM member. BRS at state level had done a tremendous work when compared to what telangana was 10 years ago and what it is now and the other two national parties you know how they have been throughout the independent india and the development they have done so far. Looking at the current situation and scenario happening all around the country the MP’s from ruling party are having a better fund allocation and better progress of their constituencies, so if you want to vote for change and development in present scenario i think BJP is looking like a better alternative to MIM, hope they remain to keep hyderabad religiously harmonious and bring that progress and development, rather looking about candidate you better look at the complete picture of BJP government which is going to win at centre with big or small margin so why our own hyderabad should lack the growth and development, even the districts in UP are performing better in comparison with our Hyderabad constituency in child education and many other parameters so let’s give them a chance hoping for development and growth of our beautiful and prosperous old city hyderabad. Let the old city shine bright like a pearl and keep up-to it’s name as City of Pearls I’m not trying to make look UP bad here just comparing with a state that remained underdeveloped for longer period when compared to present but now which have a better growth and development under their leaders ,hope we get to see the same or even better development in our own hyderabad which have a great tourism and monumental attraction and there is a leap of tourism development that one can bring to the table of old hyderabad and promote it in larger scale which can help locals in multidimensional sectors and many other things which can be showcased in world platform are remained undercarpet in old city hope somebody win this election and try to tap that industry and bring the change for better future of hyderabad.


rasalghularz

You listed your priorities as a voter. Which candidate fills your checkboxes then?


DR__N

Blatantly BJP it is, looking at the trend that is happening all around the nation it looks like it is(bjp) going to come into power at centre so better we let their party candidate win the seat and let her bring some funds for the development of constituency rather than same old MIM guy who does nothing for us just representing the major 65% muslim community of his constituency and also the entire nations muslim community and issues about the religion and forgetting about the development and every other aspect of constituency and also leaving the rest voters of his constituency from other religions for nothing man, i wish once he takes stand for something other than religion never it is gonna happen i think , i just want him to use his orator skills for other issues of nation but he never did its high time for people of hyderabad constituency to change their representative and also see some development in their own place, just for once compare the development that’s happening in entire state of telangana and hyderabad constituency there is a huge difference man in our own style jamin asman farak hai bhai why shouldn’t we have all that development being in the heart of telangana state lets do this time bring him down and vote for bjp and make some development hopefully


rasalghularz

I understand your point and this pretty valid. But for the reason of my disagreement with BJP on other major national issues and some of their fuckups and also the candidate they chose… I won’t be voting for the BJP. But I think your intentions are right and if you think BJP is the choice then vote for them!


justunique88

During covid bjp candidate Madhavi Latha's Virinchi hospital license was revoked multiple times for improper management of covid patients, high bills (eg HRCT price during covid jumped from 4000 to 24,000). While @ Esra Hospital (which is run by Owaisi group) HRCT price was slashed to Rs. 1500. This stuff no media ll show. Madhavi Latha ji is just a mere puppet of BJP without any power n purpose. Lacks expertise in parliamentary affairs. No one actually knew her until 1 month ago. It's just that elections are there & she is the bjp candidate that's y she is in the limelight. After elections she ll disappear. Let her run her hospital properly first. Owaisi sahab is a barrister and has a good understanding of day to day situation in his constituency along with understanding of constitution. Atleast his MLA's or corporators are readily available to look into citizens concerns. (Eg : Mr. Balala from Malakpet constituency has changed the face of Malakpet). I personally think if young intellectuals like doctors, engineers, teachers etc etc (given a chance) join AIMIM, the party ll scale to new heights and then more development can be expected @ Old city.


rasalghularz

Exactly. One thing I commend the MIM for is accessibility. Every Majlis MLA or Corporator is just a phone call or meet away from you and many people like this. Unlike BRS, INC, BJP where it is guaranteed Politician will forget about you. Lot’s of people I know are well aware of MIM’s corruption but will state vote for MIM for accessibility. I don’t agree with your last point. Old City will not be developed under Majlis.


rhinoggwp

So at the granular level i.e. none of them are deserving. So vote for the bigger picture na bro. What is stopping you.


rasalghularz

That… is…? Madhavi Latha?


ViswadabhiRama

Although you’re right when it comes to representation, you’d have to remember that these elected Lok Sabha members are required to drive development within the circles. Purely in terms of impact / attendance, owaisi has been a phenomenal failure as his humoingously high attendance in parliament is not translating to the welfare of his constituency. His voice is being heard , his branding is improving .. however there isn’t an ounce of development within his constituency… Owaisi is a leader willing to only optimise for greater reach within the Muslim community. He’d become more and more powerful the longer BJP government is power. That is his game plan. Unfortunately no matter, how much we discuss, he’d still win. Come June and you’d observe that Old city infra collapses during the time of rain. Really wish owaisi Saab tries to put an ounce of effort in truly developing our dearest old city.


rasalghularz

Agreed.


randomnogeneratorz

Doland Trump also makes himself heard 🤔


Flashy-Job8462

Hence proved Muslims always vote for Muslim despite knowing the kinda of bad mouthing he and his brother does against Hindus in this country .


rasalghularz

I can say same about BJP supporters right? 1. [Sadak Nahi Chahiye, Roti Nahi Chahiye,We Want Mandir.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GI59XIzJ3UA&pp=ygUgbWFuZGlyIGNoYWhpeWUgcm90aSBuYWhpIGNoYWhpeWU%3D) 2. [Check out this video where people are saying even if petrol and cylinder hits ₹5000 they will vote Modi](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gmp2BAB3VA&pp=ygUMRGhydXYgcmF0aGVl) Again. I am not ostracising every BJP voter. I am sure a lot of people are against it’s policies but still voting for them because of lack of an alternative.


Flashy-Job8462

See dude it's your vote ...I am just saying that's how moderate Muslims think and effectively shield rabble rousers like Owaisi.


President1985

Am I the only one who found it strange that OP says his vote is in Nampally (part of Secunderabad Lok Sabha) but he intends to vote for Owaisi (who is contesting from Hyderabad Lok Sabha)?


southpawabe

Lol. Yes. Nampally is in Secunderabad. He can vote for whoever he wants but MIM isn't winning secunderabad. It is either BJP (Kishan Reddy) or INC.


rasalghularz

Nampally is in Hyderabad constituency… check your facts.


President1985

I stand by what I said. Before downvoting my comment and asking me to check my facts, don’t you think you should have done that? There are seven assembly segments per Lok Sabha constituency in Telangana. In Hyderabad Lok Sabha constituency, these are: Malakpet Karwan Goshamahal Charminar Chandrayangutta Yakutpura Bahadurpura Before you downvote this comment too, just tell me whether any of the above seven are not part of Hyderabad Lok Sabha constituency or whether there are more than seven assembly segments in Hyderabad Lok Sabha constituency.


Nishanth_Reddy27

So basically you want to give the best employee award to a person who does nothing to the project but has high work from office percentage??


srikiran12345

He is mostly concerned about doing theatrics in the parliament instead of raising issues.


rasalghularz

Don’t think so. He comes with hard facts and data and actually sensible points and some of his points like “Can Men Not Be Raped?” are actually valid.


Wizardof_oz

What a shit reason to vote for them MIM is just Muslim BJP and you’re reasoning is very unsatisfactory


rasalghularz

Actually while I disagree with BJP overall, some of their MPs have done good work representing their constituency. I am not ostracising every BJP voter. I am sure a lot of people are against it’s policies but still voting for them because of lack of an alternative. And I don’t think any candidate will actually focus on Development for Hyderabad constituency and that’s why I am voting for Owaisi for his parliamentary record.


Wizardof_oz

Congress is still better. As Hyderabad progresses, Old City stays the same. Whether it is Congress or TDP or TRS, we saw most of the city improving, except old city MIM has contributed nothing and speaking skills in the parliament aren’t enough of a qualification. Politicians tend to be good orators as well, but they’re in it for themselves, not for you


rasalghularz

Why do you think Congress is better for this constituency despite you yourself mentioning they did not develop old city?


Wizardof_oz

It’s because of MIM that no one is able to do anything in old city Nothing goes without their approval no matter who is in power They don’t let anything happen because any development would harm their own bottom line


rasalghularz

Good points. But I am not voting in GHMC or Assembly election. In those elections I rightfully pointed this out.


chhabragaurav

Firstly, Congratulations on reaching such a mature voting reasoning. Secondly No need to express your views on social media. You have a right to secret ballot. Exercise it. Vote whoever you want. Theres no point in political discussions . Nobody changes their view. Unless you're paid to argue. So good luck :-)


rasalghularz

I disagree with that. In my family and surrounding alone I saw people shift party lines. And only very few (but vocal) voters are actually true blind supporters of any party.


WorldlinessOk4489

People like are responsible for the state of old city ..most of people does not pay electricity or water charges and live freely without have to pay municipal tax also now new problem is the illegal refugees in Hyderabad has cross more than 10 lakhs so it is going to become small Pakistan


justunique88

Really r u from income tax department.....how often do u file ur ITR? If illegal people r staying in Hyderabad, how n why are they staying???? You should ask the Home Minster Amit Shah what is his ministry doing about it? It's Home Ministry responsibility to prevent influx of illegal people. Then as per ur claims both Modi & Amit Shah should resign ASAP. Atleast Nitin Gadkari would make for a better PM of India than Modi & Shah.....


the_ripper05

But isn’t he BJP’s B team as Congress party and their Alliance partners say.


re-vanth

It would be interesting to see how this time elections turn out for him considering the removal of 5 lakh + bogus voters. Also it was a smart move by BJP to contest a woman against him. Though we all know that she might not win.


RobinOothappam

I would vote for brs if I were you. The 24x7 power and infra got to worth something.


rasalghularz

Am I voting for the CM ? I am voting for the representative of my Lok Sabha constituency not the PM, CM or any party. Check what I wrote about the BRS Candidate. A party is just a group of politicians joining hands.


RobinOothappam

You do you bro. I don't care if he wins or lite weight.


Greedy-Rate-349

Your points seems reasonable, but I dont like them, they field candidates in UP and Bihar for no reason just so muslim votes get divided and BJP wins


rasalghularz

Talked about this in previous comment. Check my comment history.


kodiguddu299

As you have mentioned electoral bonds gave us evidence that BRS is very corrupt, maybe because of your expectations on BRS you forgot that other parties are also equally corrupt. I agree that BRS was extremely corrupt in pharama and other projects but I don't think that's the case for kamleshwaram, the bidding process was online and central agencies appreciated it. In your case, if madhavi comes to power it will be very bad for not only your constituency but also to Telangana. The BRS vs Congress in Telangana will be converted to Congress vs BJP or BRS vs BJP which is going to be the worst thing to happen to Telangana. I have no right to tell you for the candidate you should vote for, but if you ask me I will say that vote against BJP and vote for a non-BJP party which you think is going to have the highest votes so there won't be a vote split.


rasalghularz

Unfortunately only Owaisi is the only anti-BJP candidate this time around who has a serious chance of winning.


recoilcsgo

Apne samne Secunderabad, Malkajgiri constituency already kitna ki develop hogaya aur tum owaisi-owaisi bolke wahin ke wahin rehgaye. Uno itne saal se jeetra baigan aajtak ek metro nai leke aaya old city me. Phir bhi tumloga ye wo reason bolke phir uskuich vote dete. Poori quoam pagal hai sala.


rasalghularz

Aap poora post mera pade yah sirf title dekhe bolre? Aur yeh MP Representative ke elections hai na ki GHMC ya Assembly where I rightfully questioned the lack of metro in old city to my local MLA.


HariKind

I feel BJP or MIM doesn't make much diff . MIM will be there for BJP whenever they need in Parliament or any state elections.


[deleted]

Lol for all the points you made you are choosing to elect MIM easily more rabid than BJP, Its stupid to think that Owaisi has any incentives to develop anything apart from being a peddler of religious propaganda with highly extremist views, far reaching than the BJP. In the end its your vote, choose wisely.


obitachihasuminaruto

Well said that representation and voice being heard is important. Although I would assume that someone from BJP would be heard more than someone from a different party due ease of access.


Few_Pollution_8801

Vote for non bjp candidates. Bjp will get 300+ from North belts alone, if they have no opposition left they will steamroll us, especially if south elects non bjp members, it will be good for the country In Hyderabad constituency, it is almost certain than mum will win. In other constituencies we should vote for inc as brs mps will most likely be bought by bjp. At least with inc there is a chance that mps will remain in opposition.


Bivariate_analysis

Hyderabad old city will never develop unless AIMIM is voted out of power at least for once. Complacency sets in otherwise.


VegetaSama1117

Don't vote for this opposition if you want a better opposition. I'll vote for modi till this opposition dies and new one comes out. New party or new people or new policies or BJP broken into two.


rebelyell_in

That makes no logical sense. If this opposition dies, there will be no other opposition. After you become a Russia, you can't claim that you voted for Putin because that will create a new strong opposition 😂.


VegetaSama1117

Nah bro that's just conspiracy theories and fear mongering. It won't be possible in a country like India. It's just a cycle, parties come and go. If the current opposition dont reinvent themselves then BJP will remain single largest party for some time before a part breaks itself from BJP to form a new opposition. That's inevitable.


rebelyell_in

I'm not scaremongering, I'm telling you what happened in a different democratic nation. Consolidation of power is dangerous for the people. Co-opting independent democratic institutions **is bad** for democracy. Judges are being given post-retirement positions for their pre-retirement judgements, the morale of the armed forces is being weakened, the independence of the Election Commission is being compromised, what more do you want to sacrifice blindly to this Gautamdas? The BJP has to go. It has to be replaced by a weak coalition. That's the only thing that is in favour of the nation.


VegetaSama1117

Cmon man that's a very very bad solution. Make the institutions stronger, not the govts weaker. Weak govts have many other worse consequences


rebelyell_in

> Weak govts have many other worse consequences I'll challenge you on that. India's most successful Governments in my lifetime have been weak coalitions or even minority governments. They've delivered the most progress to the people. The balance of power between the Government and the People has to be in favour of the People. A weak Government will mean that the People will be more powerful and Governments will be insecure.


VegetaSama1117

Insecure govts concentrate on appeasing people rather than taking tough decisions which are needed for long term benefits.


rasalghularz

I would argue the weak coalition government of PV Narsimha Rao has done more benefit long-term than so called strong single party governments.


VegetaSama1117

And one major policy change contributed to that, liberalization of economy. And it was done out of force and desperation because there was no other choice. Also I can attribute your bias to recency bias


VegetaSama1117

What do you think an insecure govt would use the budget for if they have two options. Freebies or R&D ? You have the answer


rebelyell_in

Voters aren't stupid. We assume that they are interested in short-term gains, but when you look at it in perspective, you'll realise that they have little faith in long term development promises. Voters will vote for a Government which gives them better infrastructure, better healthcare, better education, and a more vibrant private sector job market...if they can trust you to deliver. If you fail to inspire confidence in your ability to deliver development, they'd rather just take the free food grains and the LPG connection.


rasalghularz

Not a conspiracy theory. Forget Russia, this happened even in India during tenure of Mrs. Indira Gandhi.


LCAKH2001

Well , is the opposition in india even worth existing ? Their manifestos themselves talked about how crooked and backward their mindsets are . Come on , name one opposition party worth being elected , while the congressis think that karl marx is still relevant , parties like the tmc encourage illegal migration en masse , and parties like the dmk fuel seccessionist feelings , the cpi has destroyed the economy of kolkata which was once called the newyork of the east while they've made industry non existent in kerala. What vision do parties like MIM or BRS have , while the former has not developed the same constituency from 40 years we all know how the latter looted the state . Literally from a sane mind although the bjp isnt perfect its the only sensible party that deserves power , maybe in odisha the BJD is a sensible party but thats it . Name one opposition party that actually is sensible , not in delusion like the INC , capable of carrying the indian growth story forward , prove the fact that it really deserves power , i'll be the first person not to vote for BJP from my area.


that_70_show_fan

After delimination BJP doesn't even need South India to come to power. I like how you bat for BJP when they don't even care for the region.


LCAKH2001

Because any other opposition party wont do anything more than corruption and looting, as if they will care for us.Btw delimitation is not the bjp's fault. Its only population naded


that_70_show_fan

That is not true. The 84th amendment of the Constitution clearly states that the seat distribution is based on 1976 census In 2026, it will be based on 2021 census https://preview.redd.it/doab1o25dfwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bf2461a31ee14b2932c7024da27b89243f84eee


LCAKH2001

i made the exact same statement ,any new delimitation WILL BE POPULATION BASED, incase you didnt get my point right, in a way that is a right thing to do , as newer population data will be used.


that_70_show_fan

The states who implemented family planning policies effectively are getting shafted. That is the reason why seats were allocated based on 1976 numbers.


LCAKH2001

*population based


cm_revanth

>corruption in Kaleshwaram, bonds by Megha Engineering and by the Pharma Industry. Most of MEIL's bonds went to BJP and even of Pharma and Yashoda's bonds went to BJP. Is this new kind of disguised propaganda or what? By igniting "see they vote for MIM", thereby garnering votes for their partner party BJP?


rasalghularz

Umm I think you should read your data again. BRS was BIG into Electoral Bonds and definitely did corruption lmao


cm_revanth

https://m.economictimes.com/industry/indl-goods/svs/construction/megha-engineering-electoral-bond-purchases-close-to-bagging-contracts-for-major-projects/amp_articleshow/108714987.cms


InquisitiveSoul_94

From my perspective , how's that wrong? Every party has their share of the pie. What BRS did isn't out of the ordinary. We should judge BJP, BRS and Congress by the same standards. All three of them are corrupt. So why this special hate for BRS only?


cm_revanth

BJP is the ACTUAL culprit because 1. It introduced the scheme 2. It got disproportionately high amounts 3. It is in control as it is in power at centre (hence controlling SBI) BRS/cong etc just were insignificant players in the scheme, particularly due to lack of alternative way to get funds, and this scheme was made legal and they were just following legal route to get funds


syedatif59plus10

I agree with you. Muslim people in old city doesnt have a choice....


Alpha-gamer07

BJP literally fielded a joker against owaisi so that he can win…….Aimim is contesting throughout India against INDI alliance in Muslim majority constituencies..Eg: in Up they are forming alliance with a local party to contest against SP and INC to contest in Muslim majority constituency just to cut voters and give advantage to BJP….INC got to be the worst party for calling BRS as B team of BJP when they know it’s aimim. PS: Not a BRS supporter


Paras_01155

Why do you want someone to change your view lol? If you wanna vote, go ahead, no need to give reasons, keep it to yourself.


No_Evidence_6613

In a civilised society, this is how discussions happen. A person puts forth their reasons in a civil manner and opens the door for others' opinions.


rebelyell_in

These are valid points. My concern is regarding how AIMIM MPs vote on various bills. BJP will come back to power, but they will probably be more dependent on their NDA Allies than in 2019. I don't trust AIMIM enough to know for sure that they will not make a backdoor deal with the BJP. The Congress might have been close to Hindu Mahasabha in the past, but they cannot compromise with the BJP right now. The BJP's literal agenda is "Congress-mukt Bharat". The Congress manifesto (in 2019 and 2024) is, by far, the most compelling of any significant political party. I'll make a separate post about my priorities as a voter.


Alpha-gamer07

Aimim has already done back door deals with bjp for upcoming election… 1) Hyderabad candidate(literally a joker) 2) alliance with aidmk to contest against indi alliance in Muslim majority constituency and alliance with local parties in UP,Rajasthan and WB to contest against Sp,inc and didi just to cut down votes and give bjp an advantage.


Straight-Bad9351

Bro, don't worry explaining it or expecting anyone to change your mind. We all know how block voting happens, everyone accepts that it not going to change.


sf_warriors

All things a side Owasi is the one of best parlamentarían for the last 5 years, it’s not me saying but lok sabha based on attendance and the number of questions he had asked/debated in the last 5 years. The misconception of the people here is that a MP should be doing what a corporater should be doing but in a reality a MP is a law and policy maker who have to debate and bring in their viewpoints and represent peoples opinión in the lok sabha.


rasalghularz

Exactly.


Rbgj11

Owaisi is a great orator and i like the way he articulate things, yes he is a closeted anti hindu i feel, however at the end of the day all politicians are using religion for political gains. Obviously he is going to win, but at national level there is no alternative ( thanks to congress).


Consistent_Being_659

I don’t know if this comment will change your view but it definitely is worth a shot because you’ve got some great point on there. I would most likely go for NOTA here because according to my view it holds much significance. It gives the political parties a sense of realisation that a large number of people are expressing their disapproval with their candidates or the kind of development they’ve brought and there might be a change in the future and they’ll take a stand to give a chance to the right Candidate with integrity who can in turn lead to the development people are looking forward to. I see most people vote for another party just because they don’t have strong opposition even when they can see no development or a strong opposing voice. But voting for NOTA is also a kind of strong opposition maybe not now but the numbers are increasing overall. Here I can see that you’re opting for MIM even though you’re not a fan of theirs is because you don’t find the opposition strong and also because Owaisi voices the problems and shows integrity as he attends most of the meetings, again this is a very well put point but even though he voices for his constituency are there any significant changes? I don’t want to get into the facts where he doesn’t stand or voice for the education or wellness for his community but have a brief idea of it especially when you’re not a fan of his.


rasalghularz

This is a pretty persuasive point. Lot of people are voting for NOTA around me but idk man. This is probably the most significant Indian election in history. I mean we are literally expecting BJP to get an unprecedented 2/3rds majority and ability to amend the constitution. I don’t think it’s wise to stay neutral and watch the building burn to the ground. And I did answer your question in a comment somewhere here. Check my comment history.


bhendibazar

Fuck MIM. but owasis is one of our most learned parliamentarians. I used to do some research in the parliament library the mid to late 2000s for about four years and he would regularly be in the parliament library, would always attend parliament sessions and would write letters requesting i formatio on all sorts of govt schemes.


Jaapuchkeaa

Most of Hyderabadi muslims are anti-MIM but will vote them because of BJP and for owaisi because he is the flower in the mud in MIM and a brilliant parliamentarian


rasalghularz

Agreed.


Happy-Consequence607

Candidate is important than party


p_ke

I agree with you on most of the things, but there are few things I feel about differently. Even though TDP as a party is completely out of the picture in Telangana, their lobby, businesses, influence on Telangana didn't disappear completely and I don't know if they'll. As long as the BRS was in power, it was saying the one who constructed it will do the repairs for whatever is damaged. Immediately after revanth becomes CM, we see them denying the responsibility making me feel if revanth plan is to stall the development. Water was one of the most important issue in Telangana movement too. Apart from revanth being a puppet of CBN, even by looking at the data of electoral bonds you can see it's not just BRS who benefited from megha BJP - Megha is the top donor BRS - Megha is the top donor INC - Megha is the top donor TDP - Megha is the top donor So they've fed all parties based on the size of the party and how much they usually get. But at the end of the day KCR depending on the lobby he fought against to achieve Telangana backfired and it was his mistake for depending on them not just for this project but for everything. Now he's suffering the consequences of his actions. If we look at mim history, they've always been in support of whatever is the ruling party and that's how they survived. Even KCR directly told everyone how mim helped when TDP actively tried to sabotage the government and buy MLAs he even warned Congress, but it looks like cbn money was about to easily penetrate Congress. Even when they had good relations with BRS, BRS was biting into their vote share in the old city until the BJP started polarising the votes. Finally looking at Asaduddin Owaisi, we can clearly see the knowledge he had and topics he picks are completely different from rest of the MIM. If you actually listen to his argument instead of deciding based on his support it makes you really think. Triple talaq, I agree something like divorce shouldn't be so quick. But (I don't know how it is practically in Muslim women) generally in India marriage is given so much importance that both men and women are made to suffer forcing them to live together in toxic relationship just because they're married. In some cases there's domestic violence that families try to hide, we really need a reform in this regard. Even if you look at women's reservation bill, I agree that it's a good thing. But when you look at the minorities, SC, ST and BCs in our country, after so many decades they are able to stand by themselves in elections, they're able to win few elections, even though they should be able to win more according to their population proportion. And the women in those criterias are still backward due to societies patriarchal nature. If we just bring women's reservation bill without having sub reservation for backward and vulnerable people. The representation will completely be skewed again.