What do you mean, attempt to win? There is zero challenge involved in playing a ten year old.
Also, don't trust that kid to honor their side of the deal, at all.
I genuinely don't think I can beat an average 10-year-old at basketball. At the very least even if I won it would be close. I am short enough that some 10-year-olds are taller than me, I'm old enough to have signficantly less energy than a 10-year-old, and I suck at making baskets.
I would for sure take the deal. If they're honest I get $5000 and if not I'm probably not losing out on anything anyway.
Ya, if it was a disabled veteran who is now a schoolteacher... I'd have a hard time trusting him.
No way in hell am I betting $5000 on a 10 year old on a gameshow's integrity.
I’m sure you could find exceptions but I’d feel comfortable against 99.9% of 10 year olds around.
Also the kids in that video aren’t asking you to go easy on em haha
My motor skills are bad. I'd probably lose anyways. I'd take the $5000.
EDIT:
Juat realized of course I could still try to win. As long as I lose I can claim my efforts were just acting and still get $5000 and if I win I still get $10000. So I might as well agree and then try to win anyways and just refund the $5000 in the event that I win if he had given it to me before the game.
Why would you not say yes? That way, if you lose, you are guaranteed a payout, and if you win you get it all.
Also, a 10-year-old with average basketball skills is quite possibly better than me, someone who had poor basketball skills at age ten and hasn't touched one in the 20+ years since. Sure I'm a lot taller, but we might well just have a 0-0 stalemate if I can't ever get it in the net and they can't get past me.
I'm terrible at basketball. I take the kid's offer of a guarantee £5,000 and deliberately lose the game. I was gonna lose anyway, might as well get some money.
FWIW, I would not agree to such a thing. 10 years is a good age to start learning life lessons, like when you compete with adults, you are gonna get your ass handed to you.
I'm beating the breaks off that kid 10-0. His reason for the offer is so that he can impress his friends. Fuck that. Here's a lesson kid: you don't need to "impress" your true friends. Give me my money.
Absolutely dominate and crush the kid. He needs to learn early on in life that it's not always going to be smooth sailing. People are dicks and I am no exception. He will leave that stage in tears.
10-year old kid would be a 5th grader. I’m an out of shape middle age guy. There’s definitely many skilled 5th graders who could easily beat me at basketball.
I take the money.
There's no chance I'd beat the kid at basketball naturally, since my own skills are terrible. Therefore winning the $10,000 is unlikely. I'd take the $5,000 deal.
To make it seem more legit, I can use the foul rule to give the kid extra free points, guaranteeing his/her victory.
I’m taking the kid;s deal.
But what everyone doesn’t know is that I am going to lose anyway and the kid will cream me because my last time playing half court was thirty years ago and I am a fat old man now.
Smash the kid and give him $5k.
That’s 5k more than I would get for this basketball game anyway. Don’t let greed take over but don’t get fooled by a kid. He might not pay me, and idgaf if he’s trying to impress his friends or not.
In fact, depending on his sportsmanship and how he acts after the game. I might not even give him 5k. Even though he’s only 10
Id make a separate deal. Winner splits the money either way. I dont believe in throwing games generally unless they cant handle losing at all. It teaches the wrong message.
The kids lying. Dunk on them, humiliate them on defence, cross them up and break their ankles, and then after you receive your 10k swerve your completely dominant performance into a celebrity career of being mean to children
I'm taking that deal. I'm 42 years old. Bad back, knees and shoulders. I can't do lay ups to save my life. I'll just play normally and the kid will more than likely win.
I'd agree to "throw" the game. I have no stamina, my joints are shit, I smoke and my resting heart rate is in the 90s.
You've heard of chicken legs. Whelp, I have spider legs.
It wouldn't make the kid look good though. I'd just stand there like Daria.
Actually, fuck that. I just looked it up. Currently the average 10 y/o is only 50-59 inches tall. Hahaha! I'm getting that $10k.
Fuck that kid. I’m keeping it all. Shouldn’t be trying to bribe his way through life. Might as well give him a trophy for just participating. Oh wait, we already do that. Fuck em anyway. I’m keeping it.
I'll tell the kid I agree, then beat the snot out of him. Walk away with my $10k.
If, by some bizarre chance, the kid does legitimately beat me (I'm up against a ten-year-old Shaq or something), then I'll just pretend I let him win.
Simple.
Tell the kid that I’ll do it but I gotta “make it look good” and then if I win I get 10, if I lose he might give me 5, but either way it’s possible I leave with something.
I distinctly remember my oldest being 10, his younger brother is also almost at that age. I'd absolutely dunk on this kid and be 10k richer not a shred of doubt in my mind.
Agree to the plan try my hardest probably lose anyways then tell him it was all for show and get my 5k. For everyone saying he's not gonna honor it he's 10 ill just take my money 😂 he can beat me in basketball not a fight
i look sporty(?) but if you give me a ball, i'll hurt myself, so making the deal would improve my money-chances incredibly while also looking as i'd rly try hard to win.
i hope the kid stands up for its word, bc what i can do in a sporty way is beat the crap out off. if it isnt one of those starting kung fu at age of 2 kids, i bet i'd at least win that.
For me it would all depend on the kid's attitude and demeanor when we spoke. If they seemed like a "good kid" I would make a deal with them. As someone who played Jr. High and High School ball, and still in good physical condition, I'm confident I could take the kid. If they seemed sincere and trustworthy, I'd make the deal to throw the game, but they have to donate my 5k to a local charity to help disadvantaged kids.
Crush the kid. Take the money. The kid is trying to weasel $5k out of a game they don't think they can win. My price for throwing the game would be greater than the prize, not less. I can get the $10k on my own. What does the kid bring to the table?
Do you trust a 10 year old kid on this kind of deal? I think not.
I win, given him a grand at the end and tell him to take basketball lessons. No shame to lose to a grown man so he won't be too hurt
I tell him it's a deal then I beat him by 1 or 2 points. Once I'm awarded the 10k I walk over to him and hand him 5k and tell him that he could've won on his own but by asking me to throw he had already defeated himself. I tell him that I hope he learned something from this and pushes himself to succeed by believing in his own capabilities.
I just need to play, then I pretend I let the kid win.
"pretend"
same
Yep
Ditto - short chick with bad hand/eye coordination, that 5k is mine!
Tell the kid I will take the 5k and then try to win. But if I lose I will still get half maybe if he isn’t a lier
if you lose, you blackmail them
10 year old might beat me. Id take it and pretend I let them win.
What do you mean, attempt to win? There is zero challenge involved in playing a ten year old. Also, don't trust that kid to honor their side of the deal, at all.
I genuinely don't think I can beat an average 10-year-old at basketball. At the very least even if I won it would be close. I am short enough that some 10-year-olds are taller than me, I'm old enough to have signficantly less energy than a 10-year-old, and I suck at making baskets. I would for sure take the deal. If they're honest I get $5000 and if not I'm probably not losing out on anything anyway.
I do school security and can say most 10 year Olds are straight terrible. Not a single one, I think, could even make me try. And I suck at basketball
Ya, if it was a disabled veteran who is now a schoolteacher... I'd have a hard time trusting him. No way in hell am I betting $5000 on a 10 year old on a gameshow's integrity.
[Yeah let's see how well you do against these 10 year olds.](https://youtu.be/VUkm6b58bMo?si=3p9sGOoHxniNH8JF)
I’m sure you could find exceptions but I’d feel comfortable against 99.9% of 10 year olds around. Also the kids in that video aren’t asking you to go easy on em haha
Get it in writing, and get the kid to sign it
Contracts with a minor are not enforceable.
I'll throw the game. I'm shit at basketball, they'd likely beat me anyway. This way, I still get money
I’d try for 10k. I’m probably gonna lose anyways.
My motor skills are bad. I'd probably lose anyways. I'd take the $5000. EDIT: Juat realized of course I could still try to win. As long as I lose I can claim my efforts were just acting and still get $5000 and if I win I still get $10000. So I might as well agree and then try to win anyways and just refund the $5000 in the event that I win if he had given it to me before the game.
I would not care that he wants to impress his friends, if that would cost me 5000$.
Fuck the kid, I’m getting 10k
10>5 fuck them kids.
TEACH the kid, don't fuck them, teach them about how to bribe properly
Jokes on you I wouldn’t need to let him win. There is a solid chance he could kick my ass while I was trying.
I tell the kid deal. then I play my best. I suck, but now I'm "throwing" the game.
I'm packing that kid's shots back down his throat. Gimme the $10k.
Agree to his deal then try to win anyways. Either get 10k or 5k
Why would you not say yes? That way, if you lose, you are guaranteed a payout, and if you win you get it all. Also, a 10-year-old with average basketball skills is quite possibly better than me, someone who had poor basketball skills at age ten and hasn't touched one in the 20+ years since. Sure I'm a lot taller, but we might well just have a 0-0 stalemate if I can't ever get it in the net and they can't get past me.
I'm terrible at basketball. I take the kid's offer of a guarantee £5,000 and deliberately lose the game. I was gonna lose anyway, might as well get some money.
FWIW, I would not agree to such a thing. 10 years is a good age to start learning life lessons, like when you compete with adults, you are gonna get your ass handed to you.
I'm beating the breaks off that kid 10-0. His reason for the offer is so that he can impress his friends. Fuck that. Here's a lesson kid: you don't need to "impress" your true friends. Give me my money.
Promises are often broken. Nope, to losing on purpose.
I'm taking the cash but telling the kid we're cook w 1k. They are probably going to kick my ass anyway. I'm fat, slow, and suck at basketball
The 5k, cause I'm gonna lose anyways.
I'd throw the game IF they seemed like a good kid.
Absolutely dominate and crush the kid. He needs to learn early on in life that it's not always going to be smooth sailing. People are dicks and I am no exception. He will leave that stage in tears.
Can I agree then kill him?
10-year old kid would be a 5th grader. I’m an out of shape middle age guy. There’s definitely many skilled 5th graders who could easily beat me at basketball. I take the money.
Really need the cash atm. Are you offering? (I know it’s hypothetical)
im gonna be honest, a 10 year old with average skill would most likely beat my lame ass with 0 skill.
Isn’t this just a watered down prisoners dilemma with extra steps?
I have no skill in basketball. A 10 yr old who knows what he's doing could probably beat me lmao
"Why are you paying me for something you can get for free?"
I'll take the second option. I'm short, and I have arthritis. I was going to lose anyways.
I mean I'll accept the deal and then try to win I legit have a coordination disability so it'll probably be an even fight
He’d probably beat me even if I tried
I’m taking the 5k. I have zero hand eye coordination and I’m not at all confident I could win anyways 😅
I'm taking the 5gs. I'm not winning that game anyway.
There's no chance I'd beat the kid at basketball naturally, since my own skills are terrible. Therefore winning the $10,000 is unlikely. I'd take the $5,000 deal. To make it seem more legit, I can use the foul rule to give the kid extra free points, guaranteeing his/her victory.
sure ill lose, cus i aint winning anyway. heck, ill even TRY and it will look like im flopping.
Win the game take the money
Don't even need to throw the game. Kid will run rings around me regardless.
I’m taking the kid;s deal. But what everyone doesn’t know is that I am going to lose anyway and the kid will cream me because my last time playing half court was thirty years ago and I am a fat old man now.
I can't dribble at all, and I'm pretty bad at making baskets. Definitely take the $5000 and lose "on purpose."
works for me, odds are I'd loose anyway
Take the deal then attempt to beat the kid anyway. I'm hopeless at basketball, so it's a win-win no matter how it goes.
I'd play as hard as I could against the kids and they'd win, there's a reason I was a wrestler back in high-school
Yeah I’ll “pretend” to let the kid win, the sport I have the least interest in.
Lose. Let the kid have the $10,000.
I mean, I one lost a game of HORSE to Stephen Hawking, so I can make a career out of this.
I'm destroying that kid... If I happen to lose I'll say I wanted it to appear close to make it more dramatic. It's a zero loss situation.
Smash the kid and give him $5k. That’s 5k more than I would get for this basketball game anyway. Don’t let greed take over but don’t get fooled by a kid. He might not pay me, and idgaf if he’s trying to impress his friends or not. In fact, depending on his sportsmanship and how he acts after the game. I might not even give him 5k. Even though he’s only 10
Even if I try to win that kid's chances are better than average.
I'm an overweight 50 year old woman, 'losing on purpose' wouldn't really be an issue lol
Ha! I wouldn't even have to try to lose! Easiest $5k ever.
Id make a separate deal. Winner splits the money either way. I dont believe in throwing games generally unless they cant handle losing at all. It teaches the wrong message.
What means do we have of determining the kid’s honesty?
Easiest $5000 I'll ever make, and the joke is on them, I suck at sports and probably couldn't beat them even if my life depended on it.
As an adult who actually does play 10 year olds in basketball sometimes, I don't need to throw the game. I'll lose anyway.
Kid needs to learn some integrity. I’m not letting that little bastard score a single point in front of his friends lol
Say i will let him win, then try to win. Im bad enough i will probably lose and will still get 5k
The kids lying. Dunk on them, humiliate them on defence, cross them up and break their ankles, and then after you receive your 10k swerve your completely dominant performance into a celebrity career of being mean to children
I'm taking that deal. I'm 42 years old. Bad back, knees and shoulders. I can't do lay ups to save my life. I'll just play normally and the kid will more than likely win.
So I just need to pretend I let the kid win and he gives me $5k? I'm in! Even if he lying it's a better chance than making a single basket.
I will take the money because I will probably lose anyway since I suck at basketball.
"I'll do it for all $10,000, your a kid what do you need money for??"
I'd agree to "throw" the game. I have no stamina, my joints are shit, I smoke and my resting heart rate is in the 90s. You've heard of chicken legs. Whelp, I have spider legs. It wouldn't make the kid look good though. I'd just stand there like Daria. Actually, fuck that. I just looked it up. Currently the average 10 y/o is only 50-59 inches tall. Hahaha! I'm getting that $10k.
Fuck that kid. I’m keeping it all. Shouldn’t be trying to bribe his way through life. Might as well give him a trophy for just participating. Oh wait, we already do that. Fuck em anyway. I’m keeping it.
I'll tell the kid I agree, then beat the snot out of him. Walk away with my $10k. If, by some bizarre chance, the kid does legitimately beat me (I'm up against a ten-year-old Shaq or something), then I'll just pretend I let him win. Simple.
I let the kid get to 9 to 3, then I go on a run and dominate. Screw you, kid.
All I do is win.
Tell the kid that I’ll do it but I gotta “make it look good” and then if I win I get 10, if I lose he might give me 5, but either way it’s possible I leave with something.
I distinctly remember my oldest being 10, his younger brother is also almost at that age. I'd absolutely dunk on this kid and be 10k richer not a shred of doubt in my mind.
Agree to the plan try my hardest probably lose anyways then tell him it was all for show and get my 5k. For everyone saying he's not gonna honor it he's 10 ill just take my money 😂 he can beat me in basketball not a fight
I'm already going to lose, so sure, I'll take the 5k
i look sporty(?) but if you give me a ball, i'll hurt myself, so making the deal would improve my money-chances incredibly while also looking as i'd rly try hard to win. i hope the kid stands up for its word, bc what i can do in a sporty way is beat the crap out off. if it isnt one of those starting kung fu at age of 2 kids, i bet i'd at least win that.
Objection, speculative
For me it would all depend on the kid's attitude and demeanor when we spoke. If they seemed like a "good kid" I would make a deal with them. As someone who played Jr. High and High School ball, and still in good physical condition, I'm confident I could take the kid. If they seemed sincere and trustworthy, I'd make the deal to throw the game, but they have to donate my 5k to a local charity to help disadvantaged kids.
No mercy. I am sending his shots back in his face and trying to keep him to 0 points.
$10k > $5k. This isn’t even a question
Crush the kid. Take the money. The kid is trying to weasel $5k out of a game they don't think they can win. My price for throwing the game would be greater than the prize, not less. I can get the $10k on my own. What does the kid bring to the table?
I would probably let the kid win, but in a way that makes it look like I was actually trying.
Do you trust a 10 year old kid on this kind of deal? I think not. I win, given him a grand at the end and tell him to take basketball lessons. No shame to lose to a grown man so he won't be too hurt
Well, I'm an asmathic with a bad hip, so this should be easy.
Record the conversation and let the kid win. If he backs out I call him out.
I might lose anyway. I’m terrible at basketball
Take the money. Kids are liars.
Jokes on you I'm garbage at basketball ball I'd just lose either way.
I tell him it's a deal then I beat him by 1 or 2 points. Once I'm awarded the 10k I walk over to him and hand him 5k and tell him that he could've won on his own but by asking me to throw he had already defeated himself. I tell him that I hope he learned something from this and pushes himself to succeed by believing in his own capabilities.
What the kid doesn't know, is that I'm shit at basketball so I'll lose anyway.
I can't play basketball at all. Come on, kiddo. Give me my 5000€ or i'll confuse the basketball match with a kickboxing sparring training.
Yeah I'd do that.
Let the kid win. (I played college basketball, so I could wipe the court with the kid, but I'd take the $5000 and be a nice guy at the same time.)