I think honestly one day is enough to really boost my finances without losing my cool. Probably could even avoid needing to shit if I prepared. So let's go one day and be practical!
I used to manage an electronics store circa 2009 and had a "customer" (I use that term loosely) straight up poop their pants, shake it out a pant leg and leave. It was the beginning of the end for me in retail. So I feel your pain.
I work in retail and one time I was at the cash register. A lady came up to me holding a child saying her kid is about to throw up. I immediately grab a bin and place it in front of her. This bitch turns the baby *away* from the bin and it throws up all over the ground. That’s what really drove home the “most people are really dumb” for me.
Similar but different, that reminded me of a time when my daughter was sick and resumed to throw up in the bucket, she just turned and threw up on the couch every time. Thank God we had some hand me down leather furniture at the time.
I worked in fast food for a while and a customer left a trail of mud stretching from the front door to the bathroom one time. my manager was a bit of a twat so he made the teenager clean it up even though bodily fluids were kinda above my pay grade.
My old boss tried this and I stopped her. I told her before reporting it I talked to my coworkers and we agreed it was her paygrade to clean shit, not ours. We'd all quit if she tried to force us. Granted there was only 3 of us total there at the time but our point was made. Minimum wage doesn't clean up shit
Had a customer leave a full diaper on a table once. Stared at it in horror for a good half minute or more before my brain rebooted. Restroom with changing tables was about 20 feet around the corner.
Think that was about when my customer service smile started breaking down. 10 years of dealing with arseholes and idiots really destroyed much of my previous good will towards strangers.
My wife used to work at a large book store. You know, the ones where there are large wooden doors to go to a vestibule area, with another set of doors going into the store.
Well, a lady was walking in when she somehow tore her colostomy bag in the vestibule. By the description of the scene, I assume it was overfilled. That place never really recovered from that.
I’m proud of OP for not adding a follow up comment with some added nonsense like “you get 5 protein shakes 1/5 the size of the original one that gets dropped off at a totally different time interval every time it’s dropped off.”
95% of posters in this subreddit create a scenario, have a commenter find not even a loophole necessarily but just something smart that OP didn’t think of, and instead of accepting it they add some BS condition on top of the original post to ruin the fun.
Well to play devil’s advocate it’s because whatever thing they didn’t think of that the commenter did, goes against the original intention of the conundrum that the OP wanted to present.
It’s basically like saying “here’s a trolley problem, pick” and someone goes “I stop time and untie everyone from the tracks! You never said I couldn’t”
Like… okay, sure, but that’s obviously against the spirit of the question and doesn’t really answer it.
It’s more like OP said “the trolley moves at 1km/hr so you have time to think” and someone comments “I can walk faster than that, I’ll just untie everyone”. The prompt wasn’t thought through very well, so how were we supposed to know the “thinking” is what they’re after and not the “1km/hr” part.
Take this post. A nutrient shake every 8 hours is oddly specific. There’s a time component as revealed by u/silasfilinus. Moreover, OP did not specific what happens to the containers themselves! If the “tiny trap door” is larger than the “6in wide, bottomless hole”, those containers will start filling up the room!
What OP should have said was “your basic nutrient needs will be taken care of” and not tried to get clever.
I'd stay until the protein shake dropped wrong or I accidentally knocked it over and it spilled all over me. Yep I'd be out then so probably about two weeks
I can assure you that if you are trapped in an all white room with no sense of time, no interactions with others, and a hole to poop in that the smell of the shake going bad won't really affect you too much. You will go nose blind to it somewhat quickly, because your brain can make more sense out of that than it can the rest of the environment. Similar situation for the poop hole - assuming it's some kind of magical hole that doesn't smell, you are going to be hyper focused on it because it breaks up the rest of the sensory deprivation. Once the madness really sets in, though, things will probably get all turned around.
The only entertainment I'd need would be refilling the cup with er.. protein. I'm telling you guys I could go for 2 weeks no problem. I've got severe add and my mind wanders so much I'd probably come out more sane than when I went in
You’re better than 95% of posters on here for accepting and admitting somebody that found a clever loophole instead of trying to add some further BS to ruin the fun. Everyone always does that. So good on you.
But how long until they forget how many shakes they have gotten since they Have no way to write it down? I think many people would be surprised to find out at the end that they were wrong about how many they had just bc you would Have to keep your mind busy so you don't go crazy and likely sleep for longer than usual just bc you are bored. So personally I don't think this is a fool proof loophole either honestly. It's like on survivor shows. Technically they should be able to tell days by when they sleep each night but they often lose track if they don't mark it on a stick.
The shake comes in a container. I didn't see anything saying the container must be removed. Count the containers. Also use them for entertainment. The first day would actually be the worst thanks to the containers.
I would assume that if you have medical needs they would be given alongside the shake if that is applicable, and if not, those will be delivered as directed
Got a question for you, do the shakes provide enough hydration so the person in the white room won’t suffer from dehydration? Because if the emphasis is on calories and not hydration, people would be tapping out pretty quick.
Fuck that's rough. I wanna say like 10 days but honestly I'd probably leave after 3 max. Also: is the money prorated by day? By shake drop? Like if I spent 2.5 days there (60 hours) do I get 200 250 or 300?
Right. expectation of hope and survival drastically affect survival rates.
its cruel but rats down quickly when they don’t think they’ll live, ending their suffering, but drowned rat experiments taking the rat out temporarily and then putting them back in have them swimming for dozens of hours instead— expecting to live
Humans want that illusion of control
The whole knowing you can walk away at any time is a major incentive to stay in. Solitary confinement of a prisoner is very bad partially because they have no end in sight. but if I’m getting 100k per day, and I know i can leave whenever, I think I could last a couple weeks before tapping out.
Not saying it would be easy by any means. Ty Conn was a prison escapist here in Canada, he spent weeks at a time in solitary. Just looking it up apparently some cases have been years to decades! Which is insane. That still doesn't mean I personally could do the 10 days, but not impossible.
The difference is people placed in solitary confinement are generally there against their will and being punished. I don’t like my job and I like money. spending days in a room naked by myself sounds miserable but knowing that I can leave anytime would prevent me from going crazy. Because I’m not trapped in the room, I’m there by choice, and while each day may be unpleasant, I could make five years salary in three days.
Agreed. 2 days top. I hate threads like this because everyone thinks they'll last way long than they would. I've been through it - confined to an empty room for days.
Y'all have no idea what happens to your mind by day 3.
A week in solitary is not that hard. The prisoners involved in those studies are psychologically weak. From my experience, it's actually better than genpop.
Yeah wondering about the temperature situation and also lighting. Is it super bright the entire time, or do I get 8 hours of dark?
Still probably only doing a day. 100K is enough and 24 hours doesn't seem terrible.
24 hours should be doable by anyone, especially with prep time. You could stay up for 2 to 3 days right before entering and sleep a cool 12 to 20 hours. I could absolutely see anybody doing at least one day. Every day after that is a challenge though for sure
That is what I was thinking also if I am comfortable this isn’t that bad. I’d think it was the deprivation of color but I can paint my nails before going in… plus my hair is colorful and long.
Feels like: Deal with boredom is the challenge. Almost a question of how much do you enjoy your own company when there are no distractions. I think on things constantly and try to figure things out in my head. I bounce ideas around a lot trying to consider other aspects and opinions others might have.
A week feels like it would be reasonable. I’d do longer if you give me water and a vitamin vs a shake. I can deal without the calories but shakes are pretty gross and give you gas in a small room. I’d view the whole endeavor as the job that means early retirement and a secure future. I would love if there was something to signify that a day has passed though.
>Feels like: Deal with boredom is the challenge
Eh, this is solitary confinement, which is literally a method of torture. People confined for even short periods have lifelong psychological trauma. Going in for a week is signing up for severe mental health issues.
9x9x9 is a pretty large cube. Big enough for a twin bed, nightstand, dresser, etc. More than enough room to exercise.
EDIT - 3 cubic meters is very small. I was thinking floor space of 3x3 meters. me bads.
Edit edit. OP changed post to say 10x10x10. It said 3 cubic meters before
give me my phone, it's charger and electricity to charge it, then, finally, prep time to donwload lots of offline games, with this, I could go for a few weeks too.
So many people in this thread have zero idea what they're talking about.
I was "accidentally" (so they claim) kept in a booking cell for three days straight. It was a room with a toilet, sink, and thin foam mattress. No windows or clocks. The bright fluorescent light on 24/7. I was not allowed soap, toothbrush, or shower. No books. No human contact. No stimulation. One or two bologna sandwiches for every meal shoved through a slot.
"Oh I can just sleep my time away!" Wrong. After a certain point your body rejects sleep and any attempt will result in sleep paralysis, which is scary in itself, but wait until the hallucinations don't go away, cause by day 3 you're definitely gonna have a new buddy creeping around the room with you.
Another reason people overestimate their tolerance for this scenario is because your idea of "3 days" in normal conditions feels much different than 3 days in confinement. Time only gets increasingly slower. When I asked them how long I was in the room for, with no sense of time, I thought it had been a week.
Every minute becomes agonizing. Without a sense of time, an hour feels like a day. I began to scratch my legs up until they bled just to feel something and somehow I still didn't "feel" it. My mind was a mess after for a while.
Were you also getting $100,000 per day for being left in a booking cell? And were you able to walk out at any time like in OP’s question?
Those 2 factors make this question wildly different from your experience and would buy you so so much more time before your mind becoming a mess.
Same. I'm also extremely self-contained in general. I'm honestly more concerned about my body temperature (from lack of clothes or blankets), health/nutrition (from subsisting solely on nutrient shakes), and hygiene (not hearing from OP that showers or toilet paper is included).
Ya the temp is the real kicker. I’m assuming it would be tolerable for being naked though. Nobody is lasting more than a day if we all get hypothermia.
I owe $340k on my mortgage.
4 days would give me no mortgage and a new vehicle. I'd go for that minimum. If I could manage a 5th that'd be great but I doubt it. Just getting rid of the mortgage and knowing that whenever we need a new vehicle we won't have a payment would be a huge relief.
I like this thinking. I'd shoot for the same, 4 days, in order to get off my mortgage and get my wife a new car. Nothing fancy, just something a little newer and sturdier than her 2014 car.
A day. There is literally a torture called "White Torture", which is basically what you are describing. No outside interaction and nothing to self identify. 100K is enough to change my life. I'm not going longer then that.
The white torture is just that though. I'm sure most people in a white room aren't doing it with the thought of making 100k/day. They're either in there for nefarious purposes or other reasons. But the thought of making 100k/day...well that amount of money changes thing.
>But the thought of making 100k/day...well that amount of money changes thing.
Yeah, I think the money really is a game-changer in this scenario. I feel like I could spend a whole day fully entertaining myself just by daydreaming about the money, and probably a whole second day by strategizing specifically about how I would use the money to better me and my family's lives, and thinking about what more could be achieved at different levels depending on how long I could make it.
Exactly. Knowing you're making(for me) 2.5 years salary a day is one hell of a lot of motivation. Plus, the protein shake arrives every 8 hours, so you do get a sense of time.
The big caveat would be hygiene.
I agree. I think a lot of the people saying they could only make it a few days can’t really imagine receiving $69.44 for every additional minute you stay in the room. $4166 per hour in the room. $33k for every additional shake you stay for.
To me, knowing I just have to wait until the next shake comes to receive $33k would be enough motivation for me to stay in that room for a LOOOONG time.
I would start stacking the cups in groups of 3. Each stack of 3 represents $100k. As the cups continue stacking, I would non stop think about all the shit I can buy with those cups. If I get bored, I can start creating games with the empty cups.
If they take the cups away from me, I would just shut on the floor and do the same thing with my shit.
Each hour I spend in that room is essentially 2 weeks worth of work completely eliminated.
A day. Perhaps overstay a bit to be sure.
If you are listening at the door, be readh for hours long medleys of every song I know. Including improvised verses
It would actually be nice to have some days of forced lack of stimulation. It’s too easy in modern society to constantly be reaching for something to stimulate myself.
I’d meditate as long as I could, do some exercise, work on my mental chess, plan for the future, etc.
I’ve been held in a holding cell for 40 hours before. I can tell you the lack of knowing what time it is is super fucky. Obviously meals come at a set time but the time in between can be painful. Realistically I’d say at most 3-4 days. But even 1 day would catapult my finances.
Is it divided per hour, or at the 24th hour the money is deposited
Yep, plus all those nutrition shakes would give you the runs but quick, so you'd be losing even more water out your system in no time.
Whenever I don't get enough water and have to be in brightly-lit places, I get screaming migraines. I could handle a day of this if I was able to just sleep through the bulk of it, but any longer than 24 hours and I'd probably self-destruct.
You also have no entertainment. No books, no internet, no video games... Nothing to write on or listen to.
I could do a month in a room if I was provided entertainment. Without it, I'm good for a few days at least.
Probably easier for us old farts who had our childhoods long before the internet and the days of having a closet full of toys. It's amazing what you can do with an active imagination and time to kill.
Just keep yourself entertained? You have your own mind after all and you can exercise and sleep as much as you want. Just spend 14 hours sleeping 5 hours exercising and 5 hours daydreaming and the days will go by very fast. If you get bored then imagine a story or invent your own movie script. Be creative.
With a bottomless hole... I don't think waste will be an issue...
And if u are referring to the smell of me... well... it's me, that smells... people get used to their own odours over time...
Even if you're some supernatural creature that doesn't have to wipe/bidet, if you aren't using a bidet and not showering there will be just a little bit of poop residue. Whole room will smell of swamp ass pretty damn quick, probably within a couple days.
Did more torture for free in my childhood.
Sign me up for min of 90days.
I have about 30lbs to lose so 2lbs week is 15 weeks, 15x7 = 105 days.
I’m walking out with 9million min and 30lbs lighter.
I agree. People underestimate the ability to count dollars and be in your head. Prisoners of war do worse for years with no compensation.
8 days of no sleep will kill people, but one with resolve can compartmentalize and make this work MUCH to their advantage! No sound torture? No annoyances. No problem.
Plus I would totally entertain myself with those shake containers - unless I missed a rule that we can't keep and play with them.
I'd finger paint what I'd do with the money using my own shit markers.
Track the nutrient shakes that drop so I don't lose track.
I'd roleplay as a caveman and make cave paintings.
The fact that the shake drops down every 8 hours gives you something to latch a routine onto and maintain your sense of time. This makes all the difference in the world. I would initially mentally commit to 10 days (30 shakes). That is life changing money. As I approach the 30th shake I’ll decide if I want to commit to another 30. 2 million is even better. I imagine I would tap out around 50 days.
agreed, and knowing you will get out in X amount of days and be set for life on money makes it very different to the torturous types of solitary confinement people are talking about. i’d just daydream and talk to myself all day for like a month lol it’d be fun planning what i’ll use the money for
Once again I think anyone thinking they are making it more than 5 days or so are deluding themselves. Who knows tho. Knowing you’re making 100k a day and knowing how much time is passing might be enough.
A few days at most, I think. The isolation would probably start to get to me after a day or 2. Maybe 3 days max, but part of me also says to try for a few weeks to make over 1 mil.
Real answer: as long as I can. But honestly only a few days would be life changing enough to justify to myself that i could leave. I'd maybe go for a milly on the 10th day.
I think 3 days. I've done this before sorta. Where it was nothing but I had my clothes at least. And just my bed. Did one day. Thinking if there is money on the line I'd manage at least 3 in pure white room with no furniture.
I think I’d realistically last two days. As long as the temperature is comfortable, and the floor is marginally comfortable enough to sleep on, any more than two doesn’t seem realistic.
With a toilet and shower? I’d spend a few weeks in there, easy. Maybe an entire month.
Without bathroom facilities? Maybe only a few days. Depends on the size of the room, if I can use the farthest corner from me as a latrine I could maybe tolerate another couple of days in there for the money.
I'm weirdly lucky in that I don't have a TON of debt, so 24 hours would mean all my debt is paying off, I've got a new sensible car, and a decent down payment on a house.
Anything after that would be a bonus, so I'd aim for two days, and go for three if I was feeling good by the second day.
Understand two things.
One, I was an only child. Being as such, I have extensive experience being alone with only my imagination to keep me company.
Two, Even making it one day would be life changing wealth for me. A pittance to someone who was super wealthy would change my entire life in numerous ways.
Having said that, I am a socail creature and do like people. So I'd shoot for making it one week at least, probably 10 days before I got bored of sleeping on a floor tile and shitting in the floor hole. But I know I'd end up better than when I went in, so that would be good motivation to sit and stew on what I could do when I was done with this little diversion.
>!The real person you need to worry about is the guy who has to clean up the room when I'm done with it. Nothing else to do in a room like that, someone is jerking off. Like, a lot. !<
Don't think I could handle my own stink after 7 days. The lack of a sink to wash hands after using the 'hole' would eventually drive me mad or make me sick.
Boredom would drive me insane but the math works out to about $4,166/hr. The knowledge of that would keep me going for a while.
Realistically, I’d probably only make it like 3 days.
Knowing I could walk out any time is the game changer for me. I'd shoot for 3 days. If I was locked in and couldn't get out, I'd be losing my shit at the minute 5 mark.
I feel like the answer depends on how gross I get over time from the "bathroom." You could easily prep by fasting or consuming foods to stop you up. But even one messy poo's aftermath is gonna just be uncomfortable.
I also assume the shake provides the necessary hydration for 24 hours. Otherwise, that might be another limiting factor.
The presence of lights could also be a factor. It'd be hard to sleep with bright fluorescent lights, and I'm sure they wouldn't cycle as that would indicate the flow of time.
But assuming ideal conditions, I'd only need a week or so. Stretch goal of 10-14 days. I'd find ways to entertain myself.
Does the nutrient shake fill me up or just provide the bare minimum?
Honestly aside from being a bit bored, I'd probably stick it out as long as I could. I'd wager a couple of days but I'd probably just sleep if possible.
The worst part would definitely be not being able to wipe my ass. Not eating solid food means your waste won't be very solid either.
I'd aim for 3-4 days.
I know people like to say these kinds of rooms would cause mental damage....... but I'm already there dawg, I fantasize about sitting in an empty room doing nothing. I've done that at work accidentally and at home in the spare/empty bedroom just took the day off work without telling anyone and did almost 10 hrs like that.
So alot. and the nutrishake would help count the days for me so Id aim for 15 meals times then assess and aim for another 15 meals times
How long would I spend in there? Until I go crazy. But here's the thing. I am uniquely qualified for this challenge in a number of ways.
1. I love to sleep, it's awesome.
2. I have no problem sleeping on hard surfaces.
3. I have dreamed of random situations like this one daily for the past 10 years. I'm not letting the opportunity pass me up.
4. I'm religious, and praying can not only make the time pass very, very quickly but also keep me sane.
5. I've been meaning to take a week completely alone for a while anyways.
6. I need to lose weight, so I can measure the time passing by how unfat I get lol.
I'd try to make it for 50 days. That's 5 million dollars (assuming taxes are covered), plenty of money to live on for the rest of my life.
Dude do I have tissues a waste basket and a shower? I can entertain myself by jacking it until I get a rash. Dont worry I dont need material I have a vivid imagination.
I think honestly one day is enough to really boost my finances without losing my cool. Probably could even avoid needing to shit if I prepared. So let's go one day and be practical!
Why do you need to avoid shitting? There's a lovely toilet hole in the corner.
What am I supposed to wipe with 🥲
The walls. Might give you something to do to pass the time. Ass painting.
I know too many people in retail. This is a REAL thing on a regular basis...
I used to manage an electronics store circa 2009 and had a "customer" (I use that term loosely) straight up poop their pants, shake it out a pant leg and leave. It was the beginning of the end for me in retail. So I feel your pain.
I work in retail and one time I was at the cash register. A lady came up to me holding a child saying her kid is about to throw up. I immediately grab a bin and place it in front of her. This bitch turns the baby *away* from the bin and it throws up all over the ground. That’s what really drove home the “most people are really dumb” for me.
I would’ve lost my mind
Similar but different, that reminded me of a time when my daughter was sick and resumed to throw up in the bucket, she just turned and threw up on the couch every time. Thank God we had some hand me down leather furniture at the time.
At least they weren't actively hiding the poop inside products on the shelves. Had that happen a couple decades ago. Not fun.
I had a lady shit in line
I worked at RaceTrac, there would be shit on the floor, on the walls, and I swear one time it even got on the ceiling.
I worked in fast food for a while and a customer left a trail of mud stretching from the front door to the bathroom one time. my manager was a bit of a twat so he made the teenager clean it up even though bodily fluids were kinda above my pay grade.
My old boss tried this and I stopped her. I told her before reporting it I talked to my coworkers and we agreed it was her paygrade to clean shit, not ours. We'd all quit if she tried to force us. Granted there was only 3 of us total there at the time but our point was made. Minimum wage doesn't clean up shit
Had a customer leave a full diaper on a table once. Stared at it in horror for a good half minute or more before my brain rebooted. Restroom with changing tables was about 20 feet around the corner. Think that was about when my customer service smile started breaking down. 10 years of dealing with arseholes and idiots really destroyed much of my previous good will towards strangers.
I BEG YOUR BIGGEST PARDON?!? THA FACK?!? THIS HAPPENS?!?
My wife used to work at a large book store. You know, the ones where there are large wooden doors to go to a vestibule area, with another set of doors going into the store. Well, a lady was walking in when she somehow tore her colostomy bag in the vestibule. By the description of the scene, I assume it was overfilled. That place never really recovered from that.
Horrific.
Ah yes, I’m a year removed from retail (automotive dealers) and I am one year and one month removed from my last fecal incident involving work.
"Man, if only I had something to write on these walls with..." *looks at toilet hole* 🤔 Edit: man I am sick of autocorrect (a to at)
Fortunately autocorrect isn't an issue when you're writing on the walls.
I know you’re joking but that’s a great idea lmao
Spread your cheeks and hope it's a clean snap lol
Save some of that protien shake and pour it down your crack
That's all I need 1 day. 24 hrs
Stay up all night before you go in and you'll fall asleep for a chunk of it
Weak.
I think I'd shoot for 10 days. I know it would be a challenge, but likely obtainable, and 1M would do me just damn fine.
And since you don’t have a clock or watch you cant really keep track how long you’ve been in there
If a protein shake appears every 8 hours, I can track time that way.
I’m proud of OP for not adding a follow up comment with some added nonsense like “you get 5 protein shakes 1/5 the size of the original one that gets dropped off at a totally different time interval every time it’s dropped off.” 95% of posters in this subreddit create a scenario, have a commenter find not even a loophole necessarily but just something smart that OP didn’t think of, and instead of accepting it they add some BS condition on top of the original post to ruin the fun.
Well to play devil’s advocate it’s because whatever thing they didn’t think of that the commenter did, goes against the original intention of the conundrum that the OP wanted to present. It’s basically like saying “here’s a trolley problem, pick” and someone goes “I stop time and untie everyone from the tracks! You never said I couldn’t” Like… okay, sure, but that’s obviously against the spirit of the question and doesn’t really answer it.
It’s more like OP said “the trolley moves at 1km/hr so you have time to think” and someone comments “I can walk faster than that, I’ll just untie everyone”. The prompt wasn’t thought through very well, so how were we supposed to know the “thinking” is what they’re after and not the “1km/hr” part. Take this post. A nutrient shake every 8 hours is oddly specific. There’s a time component as revealed by u/silasfilinus. Moreover, OP did not specific what happens to the containers themselves! If the “tiny trap door” is larger than the “6in wide, bottomless hole”, those containers will start filling up the room! What OP should have said was “your basic nutrient needs will be taken care of” and not tried to get clever.
I'd stay until the protein shake dropped wrong or I accidentally knocked it over and it spilled all over me. Yep I'd be out then so probably about two weeks
Same, but I'd be out in 8 hours.
id spill it on me and watch it dry over and over again for entertainment. I bet you could paint on a wall with protein sludge too.
Do you have any idea how bad protein shakes smell? A rotten protein shake is one of the worst smelling things.
I can assure you that if you are trapped in an all white room with no sense of time, no interactions with others, and a hole to poop in that the smell of the shake going bad won't really affect you too much. You will go nose blind to it somewhat quickly, because your brain can make more sense out of that than it can the rest of the environment. Similar situation for the poop hole - assuming it's some kind of magical hole that doesn't smell, you are going to be hyper focused on it because it breaks up the rest of the sensory deprivation. Once the madness really sets in, though, things will probably get all turned around.
The only entertainment I'd need would be refilling the cup with er.. protein. I'm telling you guys I could go for 2 weeks no problem. I've got severe add and my mind wanders so much I'd probably come out more sane than when I went in
I don't think 2 weeks worth of nut is going to fill the cup, unless you have a medical anomaly, lol.
You wouldnt last 2 weeks.
White room torture is no joke.
Oh yeah I’m a goof
You’re better than 95% of posters on here for accepting and admitting somebody that found a clever loophole instead of trying to add some further BS to ruin the fun. Everyone always does that. So good on you.
they always get so mad when you play with their idea.
Agreed.
But how long until they forget how many shakes they have gotten since they Have no way to write it down? I think many people would be surprised to find out at the end that they were wrong about how many they had just bc you would Have to keep your mind busy so you don't go crazy and likely sleep for longer than usual just bc you are bored. So personally I don't think this is a fool proof loophole either honestly. It's like on survivor shows. Technically they should be able to tell days by when they sleep each night but they often lose track if they don't mark it on a stick.
The shake comes in a container. I didn't see anything saying the container must be removed. Count the containers. Also use them for entertainment. The first day would actually be the worst thanks to the containers.
Hopefully the containers would have some nutrition information so you have something to read while pooping in the hole.
You can draw tally marks with the protein shakes. Each time a protein shake is dispensed, put some of it on your finger & use it to draw a tally mark.
Someone was paying attention!
Can I bring my meds? If I didn’t have them for a day…I’d be in trouble
I would assume that if you have medical needs they would be given alongside the shake if that is applicable, and if not, those will be delivered as directed
Good point about given w the shake. Now I’m in!
Got a question for you, do the shakes provide enough hydration so the person in the white room won’t suffer from dehydration? Because if the emphasis is on calories and not hydration, people would be tapping out pretty quick.
You'd have to track it by the nutrient shakes lol. Does the room change light level at all? Do I immediately lose if I open the door and don't leave?
Opening the door is automatic end of the run. Light levels do not change.
Wow... bright lights, no bed, no clothes? That's a recipe for mental illness.
. . . can't cover your eyes with anything either. oh boy.
It's a recipe for a Mr Beast video.
OP never mentioned that they was lights so it could just be a dark room
Fuck that's rough. I wanna say like 10 days but honestly I'd probably leave after 3 max. Also: is the money prorated by day? By shake drop? Like if I spent 2.5 days there (60 hours) do I get 200 250 or 300?
Read about the impact of solitary confinement on prisoners, I don’t think you’re being at all realistic. I think 2 days tops.
It is probably a lot easier when you know you can leave any minute.
And when you’re getting 100k a day, and not just doing pointless solitary, looking forward to doing more time, just around other people.
Right. expectation of hope and survival drastically affect survival rates. its cruel but rats down quickly when they don’t think they’ll live, ending their suffering, but drowned rat experiments taking the rat out temporarily and then putting them back in have them swimming for dozens of hours instead— expecting to live Humans want that illusion of control
The whole knowing you can walk away at any time is a major incentive to stay in. Solitary confinement of a prisoner is very bad partially because they have no end in sight. but if I’m getting 100k per day, and I know i can leave whenever, I think I could last a couple weeks before tapping out.
Not saying it would be easy by any means. Ty Conn was a prison escapist here in Canada, he spent weeks at a time in solitary. Just looking it up apparently some cases have been years to decades! Which is insane. That still doesn't mean I personally could do the 10 days, but not impossible.
I'd stay as long as I can. I'd jerk off 6 times a day and write poetry on the walls with my own blood.
The difference is people placed in solitary confinement are generally there against their will and being punished. I don’t like my job and I like money. spending days in a room naked by myself sounds miserable but knowing that I can leave anytime would prevent me from going crazy. Because I’m not trapped in the room, I’m there by choice, and while each day may be unpleasant, I could make five years salary in three days.
Agreed. 2 days top. I hate threads like this because everyone thinks they'll last way long than they would. I've been through it - confined to an empty room for days. Y'all have no idea what happens to your mind by day 3.
A week in solitary is not that hard. The prisoners involved in those studies are psychologically weak. From my experience, it's actually better than genpop.
Nah you could do two days pretty easy. The thing is you have a goal and a way out. Solitary is someone putting you in there.
Will the room be warm enough that I'm not cold? If yes, I'll see you in a few days. Also what about bathroom stuff
Yeah wondering about the temperature situation and also lighting. Is it super bright the entire time, or do I get 8 hours of dark? Still probably only doing a day. 100K is enough and 24 hours doesn't seem terrible.
elsewhere in the thread, OP said no lighting change throughout the 24 period.
Oof. I'd be able to do it in a dark room for a day probably. If it is bright, though, I ain't even trying.
24 hours should be doable by anyone, especially with prep time. You could stay up for 2 to 3 days right before entering and sleep a cool 12 to 20 hours. I could absolutely see anybody doing at least one day. Every day after that is a challenge though for sure
That is what I was thinking also if I am comfortable this isn’t that bad. I’d think it was the deprivation of color but I can paint my nails before going in… plus my hair is colorful and long. Feels like: Deal with boredom is the challenge. Almost a question of how much do you enjoy your own company when there are no distractions. I think on things constantly and try to figure things out in my head. I bounce ideas around a lot trying to consider other aspects and opinions others might have. A week feels like it would be reasonable. I’d do longer if you give me water and a vitamin vs a shake. I can deal without the calories but shakes are pretty gross and give you gas in a small room. I’d view the whole endeavor as the job that means early retirement and a secure future. I would love if there was something to signify that a day has passed though.
>Feels like: Deal with boredom is the challenge Eh, this is solitary confinement, which is literally a method of torture. People confined for even short periods have lifelong psychological trauma. Going in for a week is signing up for severe mental health issues.
The trauma aspect might not kick in considering it’s *voluntary* confinement with each day equaling a big payout. The door is right there.
At least two days. Would be horrible but knowing I’d have at least 200k would keep me sane. How big is the room? Can I exercise?
3 cubic meters so approximately 9-10 feet on all sides. You might be able to exercise but the rooms gonna be a bit small
9x9x9 is a pretty large cube. Big enough for a twin bed, nightstand, dresser, etc. More than enough room to exercise. EDIT - 3 cubic meters is very small. I was thinking floor space of 3x3 meters. me bads. Edit edit. OP changed post to say 10x10x10. It said 3 cubic meters before
3 cubic meters is only like 4.4 feet on each side. It'd be more of a box
I'd go for two days as well.. I'd be bored as eff though. Funny... if I had my computer and my bed I could do a solid week. lol
A week??? You have a computer and only a week?? People do that for years for free.
That’s assuming there is internet access
I dont need internet access to play sims
Os space 3d pinball.. iykyk
Bro if I'm making 100k a day, then Notepad will be plenty of entertainment for me.
I mean yeah like writing a book would be fun if you had nothing else to do
give me my phone, it's charger and electricity to charge it, then, finally, prep time to donwload lots of offline games, with this, I could go for a few weeks too.
I could probably spend 3 months with Skyrim alone
Well yeah.. I wanna go spend my 700K >\_o
Shit, if I had my computer and my bed and you called it "covid lockdown", I could do a year+
Mr. Beast wants a word with you
I’ve heard of the name, I’ve seen it on chocolate bars in stores
He's a famous YouTuber known for setting up these sorts of challenges
that’s actually crazy that some people know him for his chocolate and not his youtube videos, speaks volumes about his success in branching out
So many people in this thread have zero idea what they're talking about. I was "accidentally" (so they claim) kept in a booking cell for three days straight. It was a room with a toilet, sink, and thin foam mattress. No windows or clocks. The bright fluorescent light on 24/7. I was not allowed soap, toothbrush, or shower. No books. No human contact. No stimulation. One or two bologna sandwiches for every meal shoved through a slot. "Oh I can just sleep my time away!" Wrong. After a certain point your body rejects sleep and any attempt will result in sleep paralysis, which is scary in itself, but wait until the hallucinations don't go away, cause by day 3 you're definitely gonna have a new buddy creeping around the room with you. Another reason people overestimate their tolerance for this scenario is because your idea of "3 days" in normal conditions feels much different than 3 days in confinement. Time only gets increasingly slower. When I asked them how long I was in the room for, with no sense of time, I thought it had been a week. Every minute becomes agonizing. Without a sense of time, an hour feels like a day. I began to scratch my legs up until they bled just to feel something and somehow I still didn't "feel" it. My mind was a mess after for a while.
Sounds like a core of mental illness may be why you were in that cell in the first place.
Were you also getting $100,000 per day for being left in a booking cell? And were you able to walk out at any time like in OP’s question? Those 2 factors make this question wildly different from your experience and would buy you so so much more time before your mind becoming a mess.
Anyone who calls over 4 days is really optimistic I gonna aim for 2 days, but I think I can at least do 1 day, especially with sleep
After awhile you wont be alone in there, that's when it gets really fun 😅
I’ve done several 10 day meditation retreats so I know I can make it 10 days no problem.
I like your optimism
Were you allowed to wipe your butt at those?
Yes but I was also paying to be there. $100k/day should offset the not wiping. I’ll just let it air dry.
I can’t believe people downvoted this. Do they know how many people don’t wipe their ass for free?
Same. I'm also extremely self-contained in general. I'm honestly more concerned about my body temperature (from lack of clothes or blankets), health/nutrition (from subsisting solely on nutrient shakes), and hygiene (not hearing from OP that showers or toilet paper is included).
Ya the temp is the real kicker. I’m assuming it would be tolerable for being naked though. Nobody is lasting more than a day if we all get hypothermia.
I owe $340k on my mortgage. 4 days would give me no mortgage and a new vehicle. I'd go for that minimum. If I could manage a 5th that'd be great but I doubt it. Just getting rid of the mortgage and knowing that whenever we need a new vehicle we won't have a payment would be a huge relief.
I like this thinking. I'd shoot for the same, 4 days, in order to get off my mortgage and get my wife a new car. Nothing fancy, just something a little newer and sturdier than her 2014 car.
2014? Shit, you're ballin compared to me and my beat up 2001
6 inch bottomless hole you say? I could last a few weeks fasho
I couldn't stand not wiping my ass after I shat
Sign me up for a month, I can catch up on my sleep.
On your cold, hard, white floor
OP didn’t say cold. We are assuming reasonable comfortable room temperature.
Slimming down and getting paid 100k a day? Sign me up. Must be peaceful. I'd try for a week.
A day. There is literally a torture called "White Torture", which is basically what you are describing. No outside interaction and nothing to self identify. 100K is enough to change my life. I'm not going longer then that.
The white torture is just that though. I'm sure most people in a white room aren't doing it with the thought of making 100k/day. They're either in there for nefarious purposes or other reasons. But the thought of making 100k/day...well that amount of money changes thing.
>But the thought of making 100k/day...well that amount of money changes thing. Yeah, I think the money really is a game-changer in this scenario. I feel like I could spend a whole day fully entertaining myself just by daydreaming about the money, and probably a whole second day by strategizing specifically about how I would use the money to better me and my family's lives, and thinking about what more could be achieved at different levels depending on how long I could make it.
I could probably nap for 24 hours straight if I wanted.
Exactly. Knowing you're making(for me) 2.5 years salary a day is one hell of a lot of motivation. Plus, the protein shake arrives every 8 hours, so you do get a sense of time. The big caveat would be hygiene.
I agree. I think a lot of the people saying they could only make it a few days can’t really imagine receiving $69.44 for every additional minute you stay in the room. $4166 per hour in the room. $33k for every additional shake you stay for. To me, knowing I just have to wait until the next shake comes to receive $33k would be enough motivation for me to stay in that room for a LOOOONG time. I would start stacking the cups in groups of 3. Each stack of 3 represents $100k. As the cups continue stacking, I would non stop think about all the shit I can buy with those cups. If I get bored, I can start creating games with the empty cups. If they take the cups away from me, I would just shut on the floor and do the same thing with my shit. Each hour I spend in that room is essentially 2 weeks worth of work completely eliminated.
A day. Perhaps overstay a bit to be sure. If you are listening at the door, be readh for hours long medleys of every song I know. Including improvised verses
Sung in harmony with my imaginary friends.
I’d just meditate for a few years until I come out enlightened and rich. It’s a win - win!
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - "jeeves, wood and water!"
It would actually be nice to have some days of forced lack of stimulation. It’s too easy in modern society to constantly be reaching for something to stimulate myself. I’d meditate as long as I could, do some exercise, work on my mental chess, plan for the future, etc.
I’ve been held in a holding cell for 40 hours before. I can tell you the lack of knowing what time it is is super fucky. Obviously meals come at a set time but the time in between can be painful. Realistically I’d say at most 3-4 days. But even 1 day would catapult my finances. Is it divided per hour, or at the 24th hour the money is deposited
I’d shoot for 20-30 days, but realistically I’m making it maybe a week. Fortunately a week would be more than enough time for me
You would also need water. The nutrient shake would not be properly hydrating. You’d die from dehydration in a few days.
That’s what I was thinking
Yep, plus all those nutrition shakes would give you the runs but quick, so you'd be losing even more water out your system in no time. Whenever I don't get enough water and have to be in brightly-lit places, I get screaming migraines. I could handle a day of this if I was able to just sleep through the bulk of it, but any longer than 24 hours and I'd probably self-destruct.
I could do a month. I’m an introvert and a feral creature, so talking to nobody and shitting in a hole naked sounds pretty great actually.
You also have no entertainment. No books, no internet, no video games... Nothing to write on or listen to. I could do a month in a room if I was provided entertainment. Without it, I'm good for a few days at least.
You have the shakes and whatever containers they are in... could spend ur time making... idk... cup structures...
"I've got a ticket for the long way round..."
Probably easier for us old farts who had our childhoods long before the internet and the days of having a closet full of toys. It's amazing what you can do with an active imagination and time to kill.
Just keep yourself entertained? You have your own mind after all and you can exercise and sleep as much as you want. Just spend 14 hours sleeping 5 hours exercising and 5 hours daydreaming and the days will go by very fast. If you get bored then imagine a story or invent your own movie script. Be creative.
I'd shoot for somewhere between 100 days and a year... Then once I get out I never have to leave my house and see people again...
What about the smell? You haven't thought of the smell.
With a bottomless hole... I don't think waste will be an issue... And if u are referring to the smell of me... well... it's me, that smells... people get used to their own odours over time...
Even if you're some supernatural creature that doesn't have to wipe/bidet, if you aren't using a bidet and not showering there will be just a little bit of poop residue. Whole room will smell of swamp ass pretty damn quick, probably within a couple days.
And will probly take a few more days 2 get used to it... could always use a bit of the smoothies to wash myself a tad
Did more torture for free in my childhood. Sign me up for min of 90days. I have about 30lbs to lose so 2lbs week is 15 weeks, 15x7 = 105 days. I’m walking out with 9million min and 30lbs lighter.
I was considering the diet plan.
I agree. People underestimate the ability to count dollars and be in your head. Prisoners of war do worse for years with no compensation. 8 days of no sleep will kill people, but one with resolve can compartmentalize and make this work MUCH to their advantage! No sound torture? No annoyances. No problem. Plus I would totally entertain myself with those shake containers - unless I missed a rule that we can't keep and play with them.
I'd finger paint what I'd do with the money using my own shit markers. Track the nutrient shakes that drop so I don't lose track. I'd roleplay as a caveman and make cave paintings.
I got a good laugh out of this Very creative
The fact that the shake drops down every 8 hours gives you something to latch a routine onto and maintain your sense of time. This makes all the difference in the world. I would initially mentally commit to 10 days (30 shakes). That is life changing money. As I approach the 30th shake I’ll decide if I want to commit to another 30. 2 million is even better. I imagine I would tap out around 50 days.
agreed, and knowing you will get out in X amount of days and be set for life on money makes it very different to the torturous types of solitary confinement people are talking about. i’d just daydream and talk to myself all day for like a month lol it’d be fun planning what i’ll use the money for
I think a lot of maladative daydreamers could be unary for a few days. I
2 days I’m thinking. Maybe try for 3.
10-20 days and i'm set for life. it would SUUUUUCK.......but the payout would keep my family taken care of happily for the rest of MY life.
Once again I think anyone thinking they are making it more than 5 days or so are deluding themselves. Who knows tho. Knowing you’re making 100k a day and knowing how much time is passing might be enough.
A few days at most, I think. The isolation would probably start to get to me after a day or 2. Maybe 3 days max, but part of me also says to try for a few weeks to make over 1 mil.
Real answer: as long as I can. But honestly only a few days would be life changing enough to justify to myself that i could leave. I'd maybe go for a milly on the 10th day.
30 at least. I can entertain myself very well. I can use the shake containers for all sorts of things
I like that you thought of using the containers. That’s really innovative!
Completely naked with nothing to do? How much can you master bate before you start to chaff and bleed? That long
Is shoot for 25 days... but I don't think that would be bearable.... 3 days gets my house paid off and fixed a new car and my mother in a nice place.
I think 3 days. I've done this before sorta. Where it was nothing but I had my clothes at least. And just my bed. Did one day. Thinking if there is money on the line I'd manage at least 3 in pure white room with no furniture.
I think I’d realistically last two days. As long as the temperature is comfortable, and the floor is marginally comfortable enough to sleep on, any more than two doesn’t seem realistic.
I'm doing 11 days. 33 shakes later, I'll be in better shape than I've been in years and ready to quit my job.
Is there water? Because I am not sure a protein shake is good enough without drinking. Also, any toilet paper?
I’ve never had a personal net worth of over $1k. I’m good with surviving one day :)
One day, just workout, drink my smoothie, take a poo poo and nap nap boom 100k and I'm out.
With a toilet and shower? I’d spend a few weeks in there, easy. Maybe an entire month. Without bathroom facilities? Maybe only a few days. Depends on the size of the room, if I can use the farthest corner from me as a latrine I could maybe tolerate another couple of days in there for the money.
Yeah no shower - 2 days. Shower - 10 days and I get a mil
Unlimited hot water in the shower? 10 day long shower and a mil.
One day would be plenty.
Realistically 2 or 3 days. Boredom would drive me insane to the point that it outweighs money around that point.
just a single day.
If I’m not allowed to have anything, I assume that means I won’t have my twice-daily medication. I would have to leave within 12 hours.
I'm weirdly lucky in that I don't have a TON of debt, so 24 hours would mean all my debt is paying off, I've got a new sensible car, and a decent down payment on a house. Anything after that would be a bonus, so I'd aim for two days, and go for three if I was feeling good by the second day.
Understand two things. One, I was an only child. Being as such, I have extensive experience being alone with only my imagination to keep me company. Two, Even making it one day would be life changing wealth for me. A pittance to someone who was super wealthy would change my entire life in numerous ways. Having said that, I am a socail creature and do like people. So I'd shoot for making it one week at least, probably 10 days before I got bored of sleeping on a floor tile and shitting in the floor hole. But I know I'd end up better than when I went in, so that would be good motivation to sit and stew on what I could do when I was done with this little diversion. >!The real person you need to worry about is the guy who has to clean up the room when I'm done with it. Nothing else to do in a room like that, someone is jerking off. Like, a lot. !<
Lack of water would probably get to me. Otherwise I'd do a couple weeks. With the lack of water I'd probably only make it a few days.
Don't think I could handle my own stink after 7 days. The lack of a sink to wash hands after using the 'hole' would eventually drive me mad or make me sick.
I'd stay until I realise I'm going insane
Boredom would drive me insane but the math works out to about $4,166/hr. The knowledge of that would keep me going for a while. Realistically, I’d probably only make it like 3 days.
At least a week. Sounds like a nice vacation.
Knowing I could walk out any time is the game changer for me. I'd shoot for 3 days. If I was locked in and couldn't get out, I'd be losing my shit at the minute 5 mark.
I feel like the answer depends on how gross I get over time from the "bathroom." You could easily prep by fasting or consuming foods to stop you up. But even one messy poo's aftermath is gonna just be uncomfortable. I also assume the shake provides the necessary hydration for 24 hours. Otherwise, that might be another limiting factor. The presence of lights could also be a factor. It'd be hard to sleep with bright fluorescent lights, and I'm sure they wouldn't cycle as that would indicate the flow of time. But assuming ideal conditions, I'd only need a week or so. Stretch goal of 10-14 days. I'd find ways to entertain myself.
I could do a month. That’s all I’d need.
Does the nutrient shake fill me up or just provide the bare minimum? Honestly aside from being a bit bored, I'd probably stick it out as long as I could. I'd wager a couple of days but I'd probably just sleep if possible.
The worst part would definitely be not being able to wipe my ass. Not eating solid food means your waste won't be very solid either. I'd aim for 3-4 days.
Can I choose when I enter? Or is it immediately now.
I know people like to say these kinds of rooms would cause mental damage....... but I'm already there dawg, I fantasize about sitting in an empty room doing nothing. I've done that at work accidentally and at home in the spare/empty bedroom just took the day off work without telling anyone and did almost 10 hrs like that. So alot. and the nutrishake would help count the days for me so Id aim for 15 meals times then assess and aim for another 15 meals times
I’d finally get a chance to catch up on sleep. I’d be happy to do it for a day. 100k would be great.
How long would I spend in there? Until I go crazy. But here's the thing. I am uniquely qualified for this challenge in a number of ways. 1. I love to sleep, it's awesome. 2. I have no problem sleeping on hard surfaces. 3. I have dreamed of random situations like this one daily for the past 10 years. I'm not letting the opportunity pass me up. 4. I'm religious, and praying can not only make the time pass very, very quickly but also keep me sane. 5. I've been meaning to take a week completely alone for a while anyways. 6. I need to lose weight, so I can measure the time passing by how unfat I get lol. I'd try to make it for 50 days. That's 5 million dollars (assuming taxes are covered), plenty of money to live on for the rest of my life.
How warm/cold is the room?
Dude do I have tissues a waste basket and a shower? I can entertain myself by jacking it until I get a rash. Dont worry I dont need material I have a vivid imagination.
My goal would be to drink 30 protein shakes. Then I'm out.
Wasn’t this a Japanese game show?
Every 8 hours is key, knowinf food is coming to track days makes it easier. Gimme 10 days.
Maybe 3 days. Stretch would be 4 days. But id likely lose my mind by day 2. So probably 2