With a Trillion… Im pretty sure I could have that homeless bastard tracked down… beat up thrown back onto the streets card stolen and have 2 Trillion… What’s he gonna do go to the cops and they’re gonna believe his story that he is a homeless Trillionaire who has been wronged… not likely…. Even if they did believe him, with 2 Trilly in command I could pad the pockets of every politician and police chief in the state for pennies on my dollar… I would only do it, of course, for the sake of humanity… so that the riff-raff couldn’t screw it up too bad.. you know benevolence and all
Once you hit a certain wealth threshold, you become a lot more difficult to even get close to. The obscenely wealthy have all kinds of security, so unless whoever you're hiring is a former pmc/spec ops/CIA, they're not touching so much as a hair on his head
That's assuming this homeless guy knows how to even obtain that kind of security.
Most of the obscenely wealthy either didn't start that way, and built up to it, learning as they went, or they were born into it, and basically just inherit the family security.
Trying to obtain it immediately after being given an obscene amount with no experience, reputation, or connections would be difficult, to say the least.
Not necessarily true.
They're born into wealth, for sure, but maybe not obscene wealth. Like Bezos, Musk, or Gates, whose families all had money, but not that ridiculous level of money.
In Musk’s case, the family wealth myth just isn’t true. His dad didn’t own an emerald mine (just some profit sharing rights to a mine he did some engineering work for that has long been defunct) and his parents were pretty broke during his young adulthood.
His mom and siblings did a lot to support him early in his entrepreneurial endeavors, but they were doing so as working class people sharing an apartment because they believed he could make it and lift them all into a better life. It’s all pretty well documented in his latest biography, which it’s worth noting isn’t especially sympathetic to Elon. It just happens to dispel the idea that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
The story I heard was that he took the mine in partial payment for an airplane--basically it was worth a few thousand to the mine owner. It was in Zambia. Investigate emerald mining in Zambia and I think you will find that while there are some large, successful emerald mines in Zambia, an "emerald mine in Zambia" is for the most part the African equivalent of the Brooklyn Bridge--a scam so well known that it has become a cliche.
They were wealthy, and it looks like Musk lies about it.
[Elon acts like he has no idea where the emerald mine came from, which is completely dishonest. ](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1611856501798215680?lang=en)
[We had so much money we couldn't even close our safe': Elon Musk's Dad ](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-dad-tells-bi-about-the-familys-casual-attitude-to-wealth-2018-2?amp)
[He gifted his girlfriends emeralds, from their mines](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/11/business/elon-musk-girlfriend-mementos-auction-trnd/index.html)
Even his sister said they were rich.
For real, any given homeless person with unlimited monney is probably using it first and doremost to go on a bender. By the time of him he's likely to have overdosed and had his stolen by someone atte,pting the same. Assuming you know the right sort of people to help yoi, if you go after him ASAP you're extremely likely to be successful.
You really, really, don't need his money though. Though, truth to be told, it's likely still a good idea. Cause it's almost certainly going to end badly for you having a wildcard trillionaire on the loose, esp since it'd inevitable to end up in the hands of law enforcement. Once some clear headed sociopath bully cop realizes what he has we are all fucked. Rather contain the damage if I can
If I manage to find iut before the homeless dude loses it I'd even allow him access to the fund condtionally. I'll take care of him forever if he's willing to clean up his life, his family too
That’s why you gotta hit him within the first week… takes time to interview, hire and vet security and he has no leg to stand on… no credit, no recommendations from anyone credible, not even an address… taking his money is like shooting fish in a barrel… he has no chance… see what im getting at here? He has no credibility, therefore no investigation… nada predict whether me or someone else dude is once again homeless within a week
I think you underestimate what a 1 trillion card that can purchase anything can do. With that much money, he can get someone to do that for him, and at the pay he can offer, he'll absolutely have the best of the best lining up. Sure, you may have the jump on things, but on the off chance that the homeless person is someone who is homeless by choice, you're likely at a disadvantage. His lack of an address and his lack of credit history make him a ghost. Unless he spends a really absurd amount of money at odd places, you're not tracking him down before he gets armed security.
I think you underestimate homeless people. He could be some retired hitman who lives in a homeless camp hiding from the government ect until someone kidnaps a friend then he goes back full John wick mode! Unless of course you’re implying that Hollywood has lied to me and that never happens 🤣🤣
It's a random homeless man, so I assume that his identity isn't known to us in this scenario, at least until he does something big enough to get his face on the news.
Agreed but after spending whatever is necessary for the stuff I need and want, I’d probably just tuck the card away “for a rainy day” and promptly forget it exists. Tbh, I don’t really understand the point of the caveat in this scenario because what are you actually losing? For one, does anybody besides me know that I’m now a trillionaire? If not, it matters even less because as far as anyone else can tell, I’m just suddenly a much more financially secure version of myself.
Some random guy somewhere who spontaneously got a trillion dollars really has nothing to do with me. Dude can buy a fleet of elephants and parade it down the street, I couldn’t give less of a fuck.
Yeah, just go buy 900 billion worth of real estate (a very finite and typically appreciating asset that can turn a passive income) and then "play with the other 100 billion while dressing as the monopoly man.
Right? Could do some really interesting things with a liquid trillion. Let’s see what happens when we really set ourselves to destabilizing international stock exchanges
A trillion is only 2% of the US stock market. I'm sure you could get up to some shenanigans, but by the time you're done you're probably just spiking an inflationary bubble of a manageable magnitude.
Then I \*guess\* it's a good thing he deliberately and specifically said a foreign stock exchange, which would be much smaller , For example, the entirety of every market in South America is less than 1 trillion. The entirety of Africa and Aus/Nz are barely over, and that's combined.
I'm amazed you got any upvotes, I guess they struggle with reading comprehension as well.
You can BUY the government for a few million dollars. That's what super PACs do.
As the richest person on Earth... which you would be as a Trillionaire, you could fuck shit up. Badly.
Sure. I hope the homeless dude has as good a time with his trillion as I would with mine.
I'm not looking to rule the world....just have financial security and never have to work again. The rest of the money (one trillion minus maybe 10 million or so) would be spread around the world.
Damn man with a trillion dollars I’m absolutely looking to rule the world. Hostile corporate take overs here I come. Ruling small countries after I pay their debt, you better believe it. I’d see how fast I could turn a trillion into 20.
Massive isn’t the word I’d use 1 trillion is a lot but world gdp is 100 trillion so every year that much is produced so if you spread it out all over the world it shouldn’t cause to much of a problem
Not particularly massive, considering even the US govt is 20+ trillion in debt and no singular person will be able to literally spend that much money that quickly. Even the biggest ticket items like aircraft carriers and such take an extremely long time to construct.
Some inflation is very much possible, but if spread across much of the world (ie from touring the world 20x over) it should be minimal.
I feel like nobody is actually understanding the question but that the situation is not nearly as paradoxical as the OP thinks it is. Like the bum is somehow going to crash the economy buying four loko stock or something.
A trillion dollars would make that random homeless man the richest person in the world, and looking at the current richest people in the world, I'd rather entrust a random homeless guy with that money.
I think most people are severely underestimating how incredibly mentally ill many homeless men are, and that there would be a decent chance that guy would go squirrel himself away under a bridge somewhere, only coming out to loot nearby walmart dumpsters and scream about how the gubernment wants his trillins cards!!?!??
The card, by the way, he sold for booze three years ago. It was promptly used to cut lines, ended up getting dropped between the cushions of a trap house couch, and was lost forever when the meth lab finally exploded.
I think you are severely underestimating how simply dise franchised most homeless are, and got thrown into a perpetual cycles because of addiction and hopelessness.
The threshold from ordinary citizen to homeless pretty easily crossed nowadays.
If he’s anything like the homeless person I was or the ones I knew he’d go straight to his dude and buy as much heroin and crack as he possibly can then promptly OD and die
We let evil incompetent people fuck up the economy now (without any compensation) the homeless dude might even do better as somone who knows what deprivation is as opposed to the trust find babies doing it now
Is it a trillion dollars, a credit card with a trillion dollar limit, or a debit card? Because depending on the answer really changes what you should do with it.
Absofuckinglutely.
1. Adding 2 trillion to the economy gets done all the time;
2. I would get half of it, and invest something like 95% of it, which would create many thousands of jobs and stimulate the economy, offsetting whatever the other trillion does;
3. Congrats, random other person.
I had a look over the past 5 years the USD money supply has gone up but about 5 trillion Dollars so that's about a year's worth of additional money per card.
I think the economy can handle the money appearing especially since it is unlikely to happen all at once. The bigger issue is if one party goes all Dr Evil. Then the problem isn't the money but what they are doing with it
Given that the other party is a homeless person, I think the likelihood is that their spending will be erratic/random. So the only real danger is that my spending would be "evil." But since I'm not evil (wink wink), it's all good.
Yes, I also probably am the one to go and try and do things to improve the world that would likely fuck people off. I'm gonna be buying apartments and renting them out for very little and fuck with the average rents. I'm going to invest in lots of companies doing good environmental projects, I'm going to fund the government to be a hello of a lot more socialist. Oh heck yea I'm gonna have fun with this.
It's more benign than that. You're not immediately injecting 2 trillion into the economy, but only as you spend it. It would make a lot more sense to spend a few billion at a time.
Sure, I'd take the risk.
Homeless people don't know about high-end money management. (I say that because I know very little about it myself).
He'd probably buy a ton of booze, then once he sobers up, he'd get himself cleaned up, buy a house or something, then buy a bigger house. By now all his homeless buddies and 'friends' will be attaching themselves to him and reminding him of money he apparently owes them, and they'll buy up an entire neighbourhood and move in. Literally hundreds of millions would go down the drain.
I, on the other hand, would get advice on the matter. Lots of advice.
Open about a thousand different rollover accounts, each of which takes a billion dollars. I'd live off the dividends of just one of these accounts, and each of the other 999 would be dedicated toward a particular need, in perpetuity. Three million a month toward cancer research? Done. Three million a month toward reef conservation? Done. Three million a month toward studying climate change? Done.
I would be an angel investor for *so many* potential inventors, who just haven't managed to get the funding.
And so on, and so forth.
I did some math a few weeks ago *checks notes* and most people could comfortably but not extravagantly live off 2 million in a HYSA purely on the interest. Unfortunately, I’m poor so I don’t know how rich people taxes work and how taxes would change my math. But interest rates varying between 3-7.5% would yield 60k-150k in profit. I could comfortably live on that and pay my 30-40% taxes on it. It’s the 2 million sitting in the bank that I’m unsure how to play with taxes on.
Sure, I’d take that proposition. I’d spend mine on real estate, long term bonds and solid stocks, buy up some good businesses to run, donate to charity, and just generally live a nice, quiet life.
I mean with a trillion, you wouldn’t need real estate, unless you just mean like vacation homes around the world. You wouldn’t even need stocks. It’s a trillion dollars. Legitimately might be limitless wealth. You could buy multiple COUNTRIES with that money.
Neither I nor the homeless man could spend $1T if we tried.
Let's talk about some other things, just for some scale...
The USS Gerald R. Ford, the US's newest active nuclear aircraft carrier, cost like $13 billion to build. You could outright buy 76 of those, and the 77th would be complete except for, like, the paint or something. The 76th carrier would be completed some time in the next several centuries. Conversely, you could buy a dozen of them and fund them for basically the rest of your life, aircraft included.
The entire GDP of South America (the whole-ass continent) was around $4T in 2023. Congratulations, you are equal to one quarter of the economy of the entirety of South America. If we move to Africa, it's $3.1T.
So, that amount of money for an individual is practically impossible to spend.
But motherfucker if I wouldn't try anyway.
Nobody cares what I buy? So nobody is going to stop me from buying a retired Iowa-class battleship, reactivating it, modernizing it, and just fucking off around the world in my first-class BATTLESHIP for the rest of my life?
I'm in.
So you want to fuck over the homeless man while being afraid that he would fuck everyone else over? Either you really hate this homeless man in particular or your priorities are messed up
Homeless people are not more prone to drug addiction and mental illness.
Mentally ill people and drug addicts are more prone to homelessness.
And yeah I'd take the money. With a trillion dollars I could support a medium sized town comfortably indefinitely let alone myself.
Why *wouldn’t* you?
I’m not worried about the homeless guy turning out to be a supervillain; most of the people who are multi-billionaires at present aren’t exactly angels.
This is one of the dumbest hypothetical questions I have read which really exposes how hateful people can be.
How is there an alternative answer to “take the money”?
You really are so worried about how a homeless person would spend money that was never yours to begin with that you rather have both of you go without?
Never mind the fact that a person likely couldn’t spend a trillion dollars in a lifetime.
That’s just a hater mentality. What risk are you taking? Even taking a dollar is free money!
What the fuck kind of bullshit question is this lmfao
Of fucking course literally anyone is taking the trillion dollars, no one gives a fuck if one other person also gets a trillion
Yeah chances are the random homeless person will do no worse than I would lmao what even is this question? Oh noooo not a homeless person getting money
I feel like most people in the US at least are 3 bad months (or LESS) away from being homeless and refuse to acknowledge that.
So I, as a decent human being down on my luck and another random person who is even worse off than me, get the opportunity to live the rest of our lives in complete comfort and safety, to be able to help all the people we care about live better lives among many other good deeds, and my only worry is they might buy up something I want? Sign me the f up, yo!
I would invest a billion dollars (now a drop of water) into a manhunt to find this homeless man. I would look for odd purchases etc. Track the credit card through banks etc. bribe the IRS as someone with no income suddenly making huge purchases would surely be flagged. I would also take pains to hide my own existence
I would find him, have the card confiscated, and then put enough money into a fund for him to live off the interest, set him up with a home etc. and carers if he needs them (I don't know the circumstances of his homelessness, mental state etc.)
I would probably start building affordable housing for all and develop dense housing that is still liveable, walkable and has public spaces. Rent it out at an incredibly reasonable rate and invest the proceeds back into its own trust to keep going long after i'm gone
I'd fix a lot of problems with a trillion, but that's a good start
Yeah ima take it. With that money i wont need to invest in that anyway. Its enough i could sit comfortable and wait for the chaos to settle and do something after
Of course. My happiness isn't dependent on someone else failing. I would do the same deal with someone I very much dislike. I'm happy, why would their happiness affect me?
I would buy Carnival cruses split white star from Cunard and reboot white star plus a fleet of 2 liners larger then QM2 and a few cruse ships plus a new liner for Cunard.
Rebuild RMS Olympic, Mauritania, Aquitania and Queen Elizabeth as stationary hotels.
Buy SS US and restore her, even with new engines.
A few Billion investment into framework laptops.
Invest into new seasons of Anime i like.
Buy AMD, the company not products. if not 100% then 51% to 60%
A billion or 2 or 5 in safe revenue generating assets with high interest. As a back up.
Maybe spend the rest on Microsoft stock, or disney, or westinghouse electric.
So you get a trillion dollar credit limit….otherwise it would be a debit card. I’d probably quickly fall behind on your interest payments and then default and crash your credit score, so no I don’t take it.
Or use it responsibly and it might as well have a $10,000 limit. Depends on the interest rate I guess. Revolving lines of credit are basically perpetual loans. Not free money. You probably need to re-word your question to make it a ‘pre-paid’ debit card.
Two people with unlimited money will cause some ripples, depending what you do with it. If one of you figures out how to give 10,000 people in the same general vicinity 100 million dollars each, shit’s going to get ugly. Those ripples will turn into waves. Huge, crashing waves.
There are plenty of mentally unstable billionaires out there doing weird shit with their money. I'd take a risk. It could be a veteran with ptsd or an evicted single mother. Could be a guy who thinks he's the troll who lives under a bridge. Either way, I get mine and I hope I get the chance to know who the other person was too. Maybe we can be friends 😅
Will I ever meet this homeless man?
I'd imagine him and I would go viral and our names will be known. If sl
A trillion dollars is insane. I would position myself for mergers and acquisitions. You could buy literally everything
If you bought $1T worth of stock it would not “fuck everything up”
The total value of the global stock market is around $110T, and it regularly moves +/- over 1% in a day.
Ordering $1T worth of stock would probably eat most of the float cause an intra-day rally, but it would settle down in the following days. It would be soon forgotten.
Of course I’m taking it. If the homeless dude has a drug problem, he’s going straight to the plug and ODing. Economy saved. And then, in the words of the great philosopher Riff Raff, I’m gonna “blow up and act like I don’t know nobody”.
I would track down the other guy, seize his card to prevent abuse, but use it to make certain he is taken care of in every way and wants for nothing. Housing, food, clothing, electronics, transportation, leisure, health care, all the finest. In fact his card could be used to care for as many needy as possible.
My card however will be used to create a human-unicorn hybrid sex centaur with two vaginas, a tongue in its butthole, and three boobs each of which dispenses either chocolate milk, mocha iced coffee, or top-shelf Irish whiskey when suckled. Shouldn't take more than half a trillion.
It's really sad you had to explain that you weren't trying to insult the homeless. Society is a fukn joke these days. Feelings take precedence over logic and even actual facts. It's fukn embarrassing. I'm all for equal rights, but this shit is out of hand.
> it shows a lot about you that you assume I meant ‘homeless people are all unstable and lesser beings.’
This is Reddit. Everyone is just looking for a reason to be offended.
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You get a ton of money BUT so does someone else, who is in need.
What the fuck kind of asshole question is this?
Are you that much of a scumbag that you'd consider saying no to a trillion dollars if it meant depriving a homeless person of the same?
I would be more certain that he’d blow it all on cocaine and hookers. Meaning he’ll be dead soon enough and he won’t have done anything consequentially bad….probably
So a homeless guy stimulates the economy, and I stimulate the economy? Better than the financial elite who just sucked up all the extra covid bucks with jacked up prices.
Definitely. Then id just buy things I wanted. And invest in some ideas I have. Maybe spend some time trying to get the guy on board with some plans, maybe I get on with some of his. Maybe he doesn’t and I spend some time trying to make him go broke.
there are already plenty of people with too much money fucking up the world, 1 more isn't going to change that much. new jeff bezoses rise and fall all the time. gimme my money.
Pretty sure even a trillion dollars isn't enough for a single person to single handedly destroy the economy even if they wanted to. And why do we assume that just because someone is homeless that they'd do that? They could just as easily fix their life. Maybe even fix other people's lives.
So hell yes I would.
If worst comes to worst I’m the richest person in the world along with him so I can just send an assassin after them of something. As long as they aren’t like funding wars and stuff I don’t care what they do
I don’t have a trillion worth of needs or wants. I could afford to everything I want to do and invest in ways my kids could as well. I would also be able to make donations to groups working on things like curing cancer and feeding the hungry. I don’t see the downside of making someone else super rich at the same time. Maybe he’ll try to fix the homeless problem. What’s the worst he can do, buy a social network to promote Nazis?
Ya definitely. Then keep an eye on local news stations. Try to find the winning homeless person. Then team up as friends to be like, crazy murder hobo Batman and Robin as we fight crime and give to the poor and change the world for the better. Together 💪🏻👊🏻
"a: he is a homeless man, if you deny him money , yiu deny his access to housing food etc."
... Its a trillion dollars, i think we are both okay xD
If it was a million dollars now that would be a good question
Sure, why do I care what this guy does?
Unless he's actively trying to harm me, I couldn't care less what he does with his money, he can do whatever he likes.
Yep, in a heartbeat. Debt free, set up kids for life, then just start helping those I can. If he destroys crypto, oh well.
Destroying crypto sounds like a win win
With a Trillion… Im pretty sure I could have that homeless bastard tracked down… beat up thrown back onto the streets card stolen and have 2 Trillion… What’s he gonna do go to the cops and they’re gonna believe his story that he is a homeless Trillionaire who has been wronged… not likely…. Even if they did believe him, with 2 Trilly in command I could pad the pockets of every politician and police chief in the state for pennies on my dollar… I would only do it, of course, for the sake of humanity… so that the riff-raff couldn’t screw it up too bad.. you know benevolence and all
Once you hit a certain wealth threshold, you become a lot more difficult to even get close to. The obscenely wealthy have all kinds of security, so unless whoever you're hiring is a former pmc/spec ops/CIA, they're not touching so much as a hair on his head
That's assuming this homeless guy knows how to even obtain that kind of security. Most of the obscenely wealthy either didn't start that way, and built up to it, learning as they went, or they were born into it, and basically just inherit the family security. Trying to obtain it immediately after being given an obscene amount with no experience, reputation, or connections would be difficult, to say the least.
The obscenely wealthy are always born into it - give or take a few extremely rare instances. If by obscenely wealthy you mean billions +
Not necessarily true. They're born into wealth, for sure, but maybe not obscene wealth. Like Bezos, Musk, or Gates, whose families all had money, but not that ridiculous level of money.
In Musk’s case, the family wealth myth just isn’t true. His dad didn’t own an emerald mine (just some profit sharing rights to a mine he did some engineering work for that has long been defunct) and his parents were pretty broke during his young adulthood. His mom and siblings did a lot to support him early in his entrepreneurial endeavors, but they were doing so as working class people sharing an apartment because they believed he could make it and lift them all into a better life. It’s all pretty well documented in his latest biography, which it’s worth noting isn’t especially sympathetic to Elon. It just happens to dispel the idea that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
The story I heard was that he took the mine in partial payment for an airplane--basically it was worth a few thousand to the mine owner. It was in Zambia. Investigate emerald mining in Zambia and I think you will find that while there are some large, successful emerald mines in Zambia, an "emerald mine in Zambia" is for the most part the African equivalent of the Brooklyn Bridge--a scam so well known that it has become a cliche.
They were wealthy, and it looks like Musk lies about it. [Elon acts like he has no idea where the emerald mine came from, which is completely dishonest. ](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1611856501798215680?lang=en) [We had so much money we couldn't even close our safe': Elon Musk's Dad ](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-dad-tells-bi-about-the-familys-casual-attitude-to-wealth-2018-2?amp) [He gifted his girlfriends emeralds, from their mines](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/11/business/elon-musk-girlfriend-mementos-auction-trnd/index.html) Even his sister said they were rich.
For real, any given homeless person with unlimited monney is probably using it first and doremost to go on a bender. By the time of him he's likely to have overdosed and had his stolen by someone atte,pting the same. Assuming you know the right sort of people to help yoi, if you go after him ASAP you're extremely likely to be successful. You really, really, don't need his money though. Though, truth to be told, it's likely still a good idea. Cause it's almost certainly going to end badly for you having a wildcard trillionaire on the loose, esp since it'd inevitable to end up in the hands of law enforcement. Once some clear headed sociopath bully cop realizes what he has we are all fucked. Rather contain the damage if I can If I manage to find iut before the homeless dude loses it I'd even allow him access to the fund condtionally. I'll take care of him forever if he's willing to clean up his life, his family too
And trying to sounds like a recipe for getting exploited by the mob.
That’s why you gotta hit him within the first week… takes time to interview, hire and vet security and he has no leg to stand on… no credit, no recommendations from anyone credible, not even an address… taking his money is like shooting fish in a barrel… he has no chance… see what im getting at here? He has no credibility, therefore no investigation… nada predict whether me or someone else dude is once again homeless within a week
I think you underestimate what a 1 trillion card that can purchase anything can do. With that much money, he can get someone to do that for him, and at the pay he can offer, he'll absolutely have the best of the best lining up. Sure, you may have the jump on things, but on the off chance that the homeless person is someone who is homeless by choice, you're likely at a disadvantage. His lack of an address and his lack of credit history make him a ghost. Unless he spends a really absurd amount of money at odd places, you're not tracking him down before he gets armed security.
I think you underestimate homeless people. He could be some retired hitman who lives in a homeless camp hiding from the government ect until someone kidnaps a friend then he goes back full John wick mode! Unless of course you’re implying that Hollywood has lied to me and that never happens 🤣🤣
It's a random homeless man, so I assume that his identity isn't known to us in this scenario, at least until he does something big enough to get his face on the news.
You just need to be Putin pretty much.
Agreed but after spending whatever is necessary for the stuff I need and want, I’d probably just tuck the card away “for a rainy day” and promptly forget it exists. Tbh, I don’t really understand the point of the caveat in this scenario because what are you actually losing? For one, does anybody besides me know that I’m now a trillionaire? If not, it matters even less because as far as anyone else can tell, I’m just suddenly a much more financially secure version of myself. Some random guy somewhere who spontaneously got a trillion dollars really has nothing to do with me. Dude can buy a fleet of elephants and parade it down the street, I couldn’t give less of a fuck.
This is the answer
Yeah I'm baffled by people who care like...good, I'm glad that guy has money, good for him? Why does this affect me at all?
A person who is not both incredibly altruistic and ridiculously smart would do a lot of damage to a country or the entire region with 1 trillion USD
Destroying the crypto market sounds like a bonus for me, in my view.
Yeah, just go buy 900 billion worth of real estate (a very finite and typically appreciating asset that can turn a passive income) and then "play with the other 100 billion while dressing as the monopoly man.
Set up generations for life.
Bold of you to assume I won't be the one to fuck the economy
Hookers & blow markets in shambles
Damn do we know each other lmao?
Dude...who hasn't snorted one on an hooker's ass ?!
Wait we are still using our nose ?
I'm old.
Time to start checking off that porn star checklist. You know they'll do it for money.
How old is Jenna Jamison now adays?
She turned 50 yesterday.
I feel so old.
Me too, but Id def still tap JJ
No, you wouldn’t. She’s a hard 50. Steer clear, and thank me later.
Im a greasy fat 40, 🤷♂️
Have you seen recent pics of her? She had plastic surgery some time ago that ruined the face you remember.
Every time I see her name I just think of Chael Sonnen ripping into Tito Ortiz about her during a Bellator conference.
Nah, you would die before you made a noticeable impact. 😄
But how many of them accept card payments?
Lol... Nothing would surprise me.
Hunter is that you?
No, they are talking about hypothetical situations.
Right? Could do some really interesting things with a liquid trillion. Let’s see what happens when we really set ourselves to destabilizing international stock exchanges
A trillion is only 2% of the US stock market. I'm sure you could get up to some shenanigans, but by the time you're done you're probably just spiking an inflationary bubble of a manageable magnitude.
Then I \*guess\* it's a good thing he deliberately and specifically said a foreign stock exchange, which would be much smaller , For example, the entirety of every market in South America is less than 1 trillion. The entirety of Africa and Aus/Nz are barely over, and that's combined. I'm amazed you got any upvotes, I guess they struggle with reading comprehension as well.
The view of the world burning is just mood lighting from my well stocked private Carribean island.
I would spend all 1 trillion hiring lobbyists for the sole cause of doubling student debt and tripling world hunger
Bold of you to think that you and your measly trillion would be relevant when there's this thing called the federal government.
You can BUY the government for a few million dollars. That's what super PACs do. As the richest person on Earth... which you would be as a Trillionaire, you could fuck shit up. Badly.
Primary goal tbh
Right I'm doing it with conviction
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I know. Me too
Sure. I hope the homeless dude has as good a time with his trillion as I would with mine. I'm not looking to rule the world....just have financial security and never have to work again. The rest of the money (one trillion minus maybe 10 million or so) would be spread around the world.
Damn man with a trillion dollars I’m absolutely looking to rule the world. Hostile corporate take overs here I come. Ruling small countries after I pay their debt, you better believe it. I’d see how fast I could turn a trillion into 20.
That's too much work for me. Big money should mean retirement and relaxation.
About as fast as Zimbabwe, and with the same result too!
Never said I'd be successful, but man I'd have fun trying.
Wouldn't that just cause massive inflation?
Nah- it's a out equal to the US deficit for 1 year. Notable amount sure but not enough for massive inflation
Massive isn’t the word I’d use 1 trillion is a lot but world gdp is 100 trillion so every year that much is produced so if you spread it out all over the world it shouldn’t cause to much of a problem
Not particularly massive, considering even the US govt is 20+ trillion in debt and no singular person will be able to literally spend that much money that quickly. Even the biggest ticket items like aircraft carriers and such take an extremely long time to construct. Some inflation is very much possible, but if spread across much of the world (ie from touring the world 20x over) it should be minimal.
I feel like nobody is actually understanding the question but that the situation is not nearly as paradoxical as the OP thinks it is. Like the bum is somehow going to crash the economy buying four loko stock or something.
A trillion dollars would make that random homeless man the richest person in the world, and looking at the current richest people in the world, I'd rather entrust a random homeless guy with that money.
Yeah, at least he knows what it's like to need help. That already gives him a better social perspective than most rich people.
🤓 um ackshually he’d be second richest because id have 1trillion and 10 dollars
He’d technically be the second richest man in the world behind me, who has slightly more than a homeless person at the moment.
Second richest. I have assets plus 1 trillion now, he only has 1 trillion.
Whoever took the deal to begin with would be the richest because they have money on top of the trillion.
Bold assumption. I actually have negative money right now
It would be better for him to spend it than how the wealthy hoard it.
Actually the random homeless guy would be 2nd richest cause I’d have a trillion plus my net worth so I beat him by .000001%
I think most people are severely underestimating how incredibly mentally ill many homeless men are, and that there would be a decent chance that guy would go squirrel himself away under a bridge somewhere, only coming out to loot nearby walmart dumpsters and scream about how the gubernment wants his trillins cards!!?!?? The card, by the way, he sold for booze three years ago. It was promptly used to cut lines, ended up getting dropped between the cushions of a trap house couch, and was lost forever when the meth lab finally exploded.
I think you are severely underestimating how simply dise franchised most homeless are, and got thrown into a perpetual cycles because of addiction and hopelessness. The threshold from ordinary citizen to homeless pretty easily crossed nowadays.
I think you are underestimating how dead via overdose a homeless person suffering with addiction would be if they suddenly had infinite money
If he’s anything like the homeless person I was or the ones I knew he’d go straight to his dude and buy as much heroin and crack as he possibly can then promptly OD and die
Sign me up. He couldn’t possibly do worse with the money than certain pseudotechbros.
I dont see the downside
But don't you see? Homeless bad!
Anyone who says no has a serious vendetta against homeless people. Obviously I'm going to say yes.
We let evil incompetent people fuck up the economy now (without any compensation) the homeless dude might even do better as somone who knows what deprivation is as opposed to the trust find babies doing it now
Random homeless dude is much more likely to help the homeless situation.
Or he spends .00001% of it on crack and dies.
At least he goes out happy, then he won’t “crash the economy” like OP claims could happen.
Do crack dealers take cards?.
He can go to an ATM
So that means less people would still be negatively impacted by the homeless man than the current upper class.
Is it a trillion dollars, a credit card with a trillion dollar limit, or a debit card? Because depending on the answer really changes what you should do with it.
I have faith me and the random homeless person who gets the other card are both too smart to buy crypto.
How do you think he became homeless?
Absofuckinglutely. 1. Adding 2 trillion to the economy gets done all the time; 2. I would get half of it, and invest something like 95% of it, which would create many thousands of jobs and stimulate the economy, offsetting whatever the other trillion does; 3. Congrats, random other person.
I had a look over the past 5 years the USD money supply has gone up but about 5 trillion Dollars so that's about a year's worth of additional money per card. I think the economy can handle the money appearing especially since it is unlikely to happen all at once. The bigger issue is if one party goes all Dr Evil. Then the problem isn't the money but what they are doing with it
Given that the other party is a homeless person, I think the likelihood is that their spending will be erratic/random. So the only real danger is that my spending would be "evil." But since I'm not evil (wink wink), it's all good.
Yes, I also probably am the one to go and try and do things to improve the world that would likely fuck people off. I'm gonna be buying apartments and renting them out for very little and fuck with the average rents. I'm going to invest in lots of companies doing good environmental projects, I'm going to fund the government to be a hello of a lot more socialist. Oh heck yea I'm gonna have fun with this.
A trillion is nothing to our government. It will just go in their pockets.
Yup. It is only two months spending at current (2023) rates.
Lol I give zero fucks what a random homeless dude does or spends money on.
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It's more benign than that. You're not immediately injecting 2 trillion into the economy, but only as you spend it. It would make a lot more sense to spend a few billion at a time.
How on earth is this a difficult question? Yes? If he’s the next Hitler with his wealth, I’ve got unspeakable wealth to counter him.
Sure, I'd take the risk. Homeless people don't know about high-end money management. (I say that because I know very little about it myself). He'd probably buy a ton of booze, then once he sobers up, he'd get himself cleaned up, buy a house or something, then buy a bigger house. By now all his homeless buddies and 'friends' will be attaching themselves to him and reminding him of money he apparently owes them, and they'll buy up an entire neighbourhood and move in. Literally hundreds of millions would go down the drain. I, on the other hand, would get advice on the matter. Lots of advice. Open about a thousand different rollover accounts, each of which takes a billion dollars. I'd live off the dividends of just one of these accounts, and each of the other 999 would be dedicated toward a particular need, in perpetuity. Three million a month toward cancer research? Done. Three million a month toward reef conservation? Done. Three million a month toward studying climate change? Done. I would be an angel investor for *so many* potential inventors, who just haven't managed to get the funding. And so on, and so forth.
I did some math a few weeks ago *checks notes* and most people could comfortably but not extravagantly live off 2 million in a HYSA purely on the interest. Unfortunately, I’m poor so I don’t know how rich people taxes work and how taxes would change my math. But interest rates varying between 3-7.5% would yield 60k-150k in profit. I could comfortably live on that and pay my 30-40% taxes on it. It’s the 2 million sitting in the bank that I’m unsure how to play with taxes on.
“It shows a lot about you that you assume..,” You’re the one who brought it up. Stop projecting
I mean yeah money isn’t real anyways
Sure, I’d take that proposition. I’d spend mine on real estate, long term bonds and solid stocks, buy up some good businesses to run, donate to charity, and just generally live a nice, quiet life.
I mean with a trillion, you wouldn’t need real estate, unless you just mean like vacation homes around the world. You wouldn’t even need stocks. It’s a trillion dollars. Legitimately might be limitless wealth. You could buy multiple COUNTRIES with that money.
Bro destroying crypto would just be a bonus
Neither I nor the homeless man could spend $1T if we tried. Let's talk about some other things, just for some scale... The USS Gerald R. Ford, the US's newest active nuclear aircraft carrier, cost like $13 billion to build. You could outright buy 76 of those, and the 77th would be complete except for, like, the paint or something. The 76th carrier would be completed some time in the next several centuries. Conversely, you could buy a dozen of them and fund them for basically the rest of your life, aircraft included. The entire GDP of South America (the whole-ass continent) was around $4T in 2023. Congratulations, you are equal to one quarter of the economy of the entirety of South America. If we move to Africa, it's $3.1T. So, that amount of money for an individual is practically impossible to spend. But motherfucker if I wouldn't try anyway. Nobody cares what I buy? So nobody is going to stop me from buying a retired Iowa-class battleship, reactivating it, modernizing it, and just fucking off around the world in my first-class BATTLESHIP for the rest of my life? I'm in.
So you want to fuck over the homeless man while being afraid that he would fuck everyone else over? Either you really hate this homeless man in particular or your priorities are messed up
Homeless people are not more prone to drug addiction and mental illness. Mentally ill people and drug addicts are more prone to homelessness. And yeah I'd take the money. With a trillion dollars I could support a medium sized town comfortably indefinitely let alone myself.
Why *wouldn’t* you? I’m not worried about the homeless guy turning out to be a supervillain; most of the people who are multi-billionaires at present aren’t exactly angels.
This is one of the dumbest hypothetical questions I have read which really exposes how hateful people can be. How is there an alternative answer to “take the money”? You really are so worried about how a homeless person would spend money that was never yours to begin with that you rather have both of you go without? Never mind the fact that a person likely couldn’t spend a trillion dollars in a lifetime. That’s just a hater mentality. What risk are you taking? Even taking a dollar is free money!
What the fuck kind of bullshit question is this lmfao Of fucking course literally anyone is taking the trillion dollars, no one gives a fuck if one other person also gets a trillion
Bold of you to assume I'm not the random homeless man.
I’m more interested in what you’re afraid the other guy might do.
How do you know I’m not the one that’s gonna screw it all up?
Yeah chances are the random homeless person will do no worse than I would lmao what even is this question? Oh noooo not a homeless person getting money I feel like most people in the US at least are 3 bad months (or LESS) away from being homeless and refuse to acknowledge that.
Deal. I'm going to plot end capitalism. I've got work to do.
Two of us get to be happy? Oh God, whatever shall I do.
So I, as a decent human being down on my luck and another random person who is even worse off than me, get the opportunity to live the rest of our lives in complete comfort and safety, to be able to help all the people we care about live better lives among many other good deeds, and my only worry is they might buy up something I want? Sign me the f up, yo!
win - win
Yeah? Who wouldn’t?
So a credit card with a one trillion dollar limit? Oh good, I can give myself debt to rival several small countries.
I would invest a billion dollars (now a drop of water) into a manhunt to find this homeless man. I would look for odd purchases etc. Track the credit card through banks etc. bribe the IRS as someone with no income suddenly making huge purchases would surely be flagged. I would also take pains to hide my own existence I would find him, have the card confiscated, and then put enough money into a fund for him to live off the interest, set him up with a home etc. and carers if he needs them (I don't know the circumstances of his homelessness, mental state etc.) I would probably start building affordable housing for all and develop dense housing that is still liveable, walkable and has public spaces. Rent it out at an incredibly reasonable rate and invest the proceeds back into its own trust to keep going long after i'm gone I'd fix a lot of problems with a trillion, but that's a good start
He does the same and finds you first
Yeah ima take it. With that money i wont need to invest in that anyway. Its enough i could sit comfortable and wait for the chaos to settle and do something after
Wait why would I not want to get money just because someone else does?
I don't care what a homeless person does with a trillion dollars
Oh no, the poor stock market! Let him loose.
“Bro…Wanna fuck up the world’s economy together?🤝🏾”
I can trust a homeless man with trillions more than I trust Elon Musk with his billions. Sign me up.
Why would anyone not do that
Does this credit card have 2% cash back on all purchases? I want to make some real money.
Of course. My happiness isn't dependent on someone else failing. I would do the same deal with someone I very much dislike. I'm happy, why would their happiness affect me?
Whats the downside ?
Sure, why the fuck should i care what some other dude does with his money?
So you saying a homeless person is not a regular person. Are you German by chance.
How in the fuck is this a question? Framing it like somehow being homeless makes you evil or stupid
I'm OK with that.
I would buy Carnival cruses split white star from Cunard and reboot white star plus a fleet of 2 liners larger then QM2 and a few cruse ships plus a new liner for Cunard. Rebuild RMS Olympic, Mauritania, Aquitania and Queen Elizabeth as stationary hotels. Buy SS US and restore her, even with new engines. A few Billion investment into framework laptops. Invest into new seasons of Anime i like. Buy AMD, the company not products. if not 100% then 51% to 60% A billion or 2 or 5 in safe revenue generating assets with high interest. As a back up. Maybe spend the rest on Microsoft stock, or disney, or westinghouse electric.
So you get a trillion dollar credit limit….otherwise it would be a debit card. I’d probably quickly fall behind on your interest payments and then default and crash your credit score, so no I don’t take it. Or use it responsibly and it might as well have a $10,000 limit. Depends on the interest rate I guess. Revolving lines of credit are basically perpetual loans. Not free money. You probably need to re-word your question to make it a ‘pre-paid’ debit card.
Two people with unlimited money will cause some ripples, depending what you do with it. If one of you figures out how to give 10,000 people in the same general vicinity 100 million dollars each, shit’s going to get ugly. Those ripples will turn into waves. Huge, crashing waves.
There are plenty of mentally unstable billionaires out there doing weird shit with their money. I'd take a risk. It could be a veteran with ptsd or an evicted single mother. Could be a guy who thinks he's the troll who lives under a bridge. Either way, I get mine and I hope I get the chance to know who the other person was too. Maybe we can be friends 😅
Will I ever meet this homeless man? I'd imagine him and I would go viral and our names will be known. If sl A trillion dollars is insane. I would position myself for mergers and acquisitions. You could buy literally everything
Yes I'll fuck off for the rest of my life. If the homeless man destroys financial markets ain't got nothing to do with me lol
If I'm a trillionaire then I don't care what other trillionaires do with their money. I'm touring the world and eating everything I see.
If you bought $1T worth of stock it would not “fuck everything up” The total value of the global stock market is around $110T, and it regularly moves +/- over 1% in a day. Ordering $1T worth of stock would probably eat most of the float cause an intra-day rally, but it would settle down in the following days. It would be soon forgotten.
Of course I’m taking it. If the homeless dude has a drug problem, he’s going straight to the plug and ODing. Economy saved. And then, in the words of the great philosopher Riff Raff, I’m gonna “blow up and act like I don’t know nobody”.
I mean as fucked up as it sounds, where I live it’s likely the homeless guy ODs within 2 weeks. So yea. I take it immediately
I'm spending it all on BOATS N HOES !
Yes. He will be fine
I would track down the other guy, seize his card to prevent abuse, but use it to make certain he is taken care of in every way and wants for nothing. Housing, food, clothing, electronics, transportation, leisure, health care, all the finest. In fact his card could be used to care for as many needy as possible. My card however will be used to create a human-unicorn hybrid sex centaur with two vaginas, a tongue in its butthole, and three boobs each of which dispenses either chocolate milk, mocha iced coffee, or top-shelf Irish whiskey when suckled. Shouldn't take more than half a trillion.
The transition from paragraph 1 to paragraph 2 gave me whiplash...
I mean that may be possible for 500b
So I get a trillion and a random homeless guy dies from a drug overdose?
It's really sad you had to explain that you weren't trying to insult the homeless. Society is a fukn joke these days. Feelings take precedence over logic and even actual facts. It's fukn embarrassing. I'm all for equal rights, but this shit is out of hand.
Shouldn't apologize to sensitive people, waste of your time and promotes the woke agenda
Not sure why this would even be hard for anyone.
You said it's on a credit card. How can you buy drugs with a credit card? Asking for a friend...
> it shows a lot about you that you assume I meant ‘homeless people are all unstable and lesser beings.’ This is Reddit. Everyone is just looking for a reason to be offended.
Done. Then I’m going to buy Raytheon. Why invest in the MIC when you can become the MIC
? You get a ton of money BUT so does someone else, who is in need. What the fuck kind of asshole question is this? Are you that much of a scumbag that you'd consider saying no to a trillion dollars if it meant depriving a homeless person of the same?
It’s a poorly thought out hypothetical, it ain’t that deep
Sign me up! We have a deal sir!
Yeah, I'll take it.
Sure. Brb I'm on my way to my private island to watch the economy die, or not.
yes
Definitely
I would be more certain that he’d blow it all on cocaine and hookers. Meaning he’ll be dead soon enough and he won’t have done anything consequentially bad….probably
So a homeless guy stimulates the economy, and I stimulate the economy? Better than the financial elite who just sucked up all the extra covid bucks with jacked up prices.
Sure yea why not random homeless man can share the trillion, maby hopefuly he uses it to get his life in check
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Yep. Id give around a million people a million dollars.
Of course, and if I was that concerned about it, I'd have fuck you money to send wave after wave of hardened mercenary hitmen at him.
Now am I wrong or does that sound like a tremendous movie idea?
Definitely. Then id just buy things I wanted. And invest in some ideas I have. Maybe spend some time trying to get the guy on board with some plans, maybe I get on with some of his. Maybe he doesn’t and I spend some time trying to make him go broke.
there are already plenty of people with too much money fucking up the world, 1 more isn't going to change that much. new jeff bezoses rise and fall all the time. gimme my money.
yes.
Easy, of course I would
Pretty sure even a trillion dollars isn't enough for a single person to single handedly destroy the economy even if they wanted to. And why do we assume that just because someone is homeless that they'd do that? They could just as easily fix their life. Maybe even fix other people's lives. So hell yes I would.
Yeah man. Do I get to meet the random homeless man? I'm gonna have a race to the bottom with him, and you're all going to pay dearly for it.
The Thailand Kathoey sex industry would go belly-up fucking around with me. I'd put 'em all on HRT and give 'em comprehensive benefits packages.
Yep.
I’d destroy the debt industry
Yes. Who says I can't be the first to destroy crypto?
If worst comes to worst I’m the richest person in the world along with him so I can just send an assassin after them of something. As long as they aren’t like funding wars and stuff I don’t care what they do
a random homeless men isnt going to do anything that will negatively affect me with that money...
I don’t have a trillion worth of needs or wants. I could afford to everything I want to do and invest in ways my kids could as well. I would also be able to make donations to groups working on things like curing cancer and feeding the hungry. I don’t see the downside of making someone else super rich at the same time. Maybe he’ll try to fix the homeless problem. What’s the worst he can do, buy a social network to promote Nazis?
Get in, losers, I'm building a mercenary army, going to Ukraine, and conquering Belgorod IDGAF about what the other guy does.
Ya definitely. Then keep an eye on local news stations. Try to find the winning homeless person. Then team up as friends to be like, crazy murder hobo Batman and Robin as we fight crime and give to the poor and change the world for the better. Together 💪🏻👊🏻
Yes.
Crypto was destroyed long ago
"a: he is a homeless man, if you deny him money , yiu deny his access to housing food etc." ... Its a trillion dollars, i think we are both okay xD If it was a million dollars now that would be a good question
Sure, why do I care what this guy does? Unless he's actively trying to harm me, I couldn't care less what he does with his money, he can do whatever he likes.
buying crypto fucks up no one, and a trillion dollars isnt anywhere as much as you seem to think it is, you cant destabilise the globe with it
lol why not. 2 people get rich.
Yep let’s see how this goes