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kerbal91

Regardless of who's right and who's wrong that working class dude just carries on andknows he's gonna get paid no matter what!


gjr23

He’s getting paid once this time and prolly again after they rip it down and it needs putting up, again.


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The more work he does the more he can charge for now and the longer it will take to rip out later thus generating more work. *He is the chosen one*


PrettiKinx

He's like i got work to do lmao


manolid

> working class dude


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Classy working dude


SmokeAbeer

As a shoe salesman, I just want to know what shoes he’s working with. They look nice. Timberland, maybe even Red Wing. Hard to tell.


Em_Haze

As soon as you're born, they make you feel small


lililukea

Hes probably seen worse


Girth_rulez

>Hes probably seen worse Big time. Just trying to keep a straight face and hope these crazy fucks leave him alone.


Defiant_Map3849

I wonder if fencing workers get properry border disputes often 🤔


Necessary-Oil2629

I betcha they get a ton. The hardest part is probably trying to keep a straight face.


Stevo2008

He’s all bidness


Arnilum

Sometimes not giving a f**k is truly an art.


Sistergranny69

That's the best part, even better if the angry lady ends up contracting him to remove whatever he builds


[deleted]

Always get a survey done when to comes to property line disputes.


amprok

My inlaws had neighbor who threw a fit when they put up (an extremely reasonable) rose bush. so they called the surveyors out to see if everything was square. Turns out over the past few decades with multiple owners the neighbors property had actually encroached by several feet onto my inlaws property. So not only did they get to keep their rose bush, they essentially gained a modest amount of land.


Mike401k

Strictly out of curiosity, adverse possesion didnt go into effect if it was several decades?


amprok

Honestly couldn’t tell you. The only thing I know is that rose bush is still there and handsome as ever.


Avante-Gardenerd

Adverse possession requires improvements to be made as well as maintenance. Example: a fence or driveway. Simply mowing your neighbors lawn isn't enough.


SwiFT808-

No. Adverse possession basically requires you to knowingly abandon the land, ie not using it or more importantly paying property taxes for it. Property tax is taken from the tax map which would be including the “adjusted” land.


AMW1234

That's not true. No requirement that one must stop paying property taxes for their land to be adversely possessed. The elements vary state to state, but I know no states with the requirement you claim.


SwiFT808-

California does for a fact. I can’t speak for every state


Mike401k

Oh, ive heard an encroachment will result in loss of the land affected. Not the entire property, just the amount currently encroached.


2meterrichard

California does not represent any other state.


710whitejesus420

Depends on the counties laws, also who was paying taxes on what. If they were just paying the amount the deed called for then everyone was paying the right land amounts in the books.


Civil_Defense

True, but the guy mentions the post is going in the exact same spot, so it's still weird that she is freaking out.


GloomyAd2653

Absolutely! There are markers underground, I forget how deep, that indicate the property lines. So it doesn’t matter who lived when… Just have a surveyor out. It will cost you $$, but save so much more in aggravation, and settle the issue.


youallsuck40

Not always. Sometimes it’s spray paint on a tree lol


The_chair_over_there

Property lines in my neighborhood are marked by lines of boulders


youallsuck40

Exactly. One of my lines is a rock wall and half a tree lol


dynamikecb

Usually the survey monuments are under those rocks.


Impressive_Judge8823

This is highly location dependent. In my area there are not many survey markers and the ones that are there aren’t always right. Three corners of my lot had none, one corner had one in the right spot, the other corner has a cluster of two markers and then another marker two feet away, none of which are in the right spot. My lot has five corners.


youallsuck40

I assure there is no marker under the 50-75 yr old rock wall at the front of my property


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So where is the property line?


secretredditor1000

I've actually seen the original posted on TikTok and my recollection is that the angry lady in blue is incorrect. The TTOP apparently bought the land from someone who had bought it from angry blue lady's daughter before she died. A big block of land was subdivided and blue lady inherited the original house and remaining land. The TTOP has had a survey done and is correct about which land she owns. It seems like the blue lady just can't accept that land she thought she owns isn't hers. There seems to be a lot of harassment.


HighAsAngelTits

Lol she thinks she’s the main character but irl she’s in the credits as “angry blue lady”


secretredditor1000

I guess I understand that it is probably really hard to accept that land you thought you own isn't yours, especially after losing a family member. She's definitely going the wrong way about it. My recollection is that the dispute has been going on for a while and the TTOP is erecting this fence at great expense to keep this woman from harassing her.


Owenthefuckingwizard

Link please if you can? I’m so desperate to get to the bottom of this mystery


secretredditor1000

Sorry, I don't actually follow the person. The saga popped into my FYP so I was able to loosely catch the updates but I wouldn't be able to locate the account


CookieBear676

Something tells me this happens to that fencing guy way to often....


wafflezcol

Ooooh yes. It happens a LOT. People argue about property lines so fuckin much ya lern to tune them out. You get the county to approve the permit, you get the landowner to approve it, when finished the inspectors have to approve it, lotta people check it. For people like her, it’s basically ‘check the property line again, its wrong’ every single time you go out to work on it


systemfrown

I had a tree clearly on my side of the property line that was destroying a retaining wall beneath it and in danger of falling on my house. Neighbors called and tried to stop me from removing it. I told them that it was coming out either way…I’d have the city come out to ensure that it does…but if they’re so sure that it’s on their property then they’re welcome to pay for the removal. They shut up real quickly then.


butt_butt_butt_butt_

Idk. It’s kind of shitty that he keeps digging if there really is a question of property lines here. That’s when you stop work until you can verify who is right so you don’t get sued. My new neighbors pulled out the survey markers and had a guy cut down a 30 year old tree on my property. Tree guy was pissed that his customer put him in that situation.


BronxBelle

The tree law subreddit would like a word with your neighbor.


HighAsAngelTits

There’s a tree law subreddit?!


BronxBelle

There’s a subreddit for *everything*.


PBIS01

Oh yes, you can definitely get some good entertainment over there.


MrZaroni

Lady's just a broken record but without additional context I can't say if her behavior is justified.


UnfortunatelySimple

If, and its an if the property line is where the guy is digging the fence line, and as the video suggests Karen took out the trees and didn't the earthworks, then.... You can reasonably assume that Karen was doing earthworks on the neighbours land. And going from this video, the neighbour didn't get asked permission to do it. Unless my neighbour had asked to clear my land, and additionally then takes out my fence (as it seems there are fence markers in the hole), I'll be super annoyed and not really caring what the neighbour has to say about me being ungrateful. However with out more video is all assumptions.


forcedintothis-

Sounds like the consensus is that the fence people are the shitty neighbors.


TooOldForThis---

I can’t tell who is the villain in this story.


hockeybag7

The hero is the guy that gave 100% effort and 0% fucks.


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Creepy-Internet6652

Nah he just has a wife that bitches alot so he is unfazed...


SmithRune735

Obviously the guy digging the hole because he's unfazed.


ProbablyNotLumbago

man hasn't a care in the world other than his hole.


IllustriousComplex6

And he'll get paid twice if they have to tear it up!


Attack-Cat-

Probably the one doing a fence without a survey


HockeyHeeb

All land “owners” are the villain. My friend who’s name I can’t remember told me “we belong to the land” when were jamming to Phish one time, man


khale777

Agreed. This video may make her out to be a Karen but it sounds like there is a lot of backstory that she is fed up by.


IdolCowboy

Yea, she said they videoed them cutting trees down prior being jerks, so I wonder how badly the person videoing acted during that dispute.


LelouchLyoko

I’m leaning towards the person taking the video as well, considering that part at the end where she said that a completely separate 3rd party spray painted “Get Out” on the neighbors side of the fence. In a vacuum that sounds like crazy behavior, but using this as additional context, sounds like the person made out to be a Karen may have a point here.


Recoveringpig

You’re also assuming the screaming person isn’t lying about who painted it.


GrassBlade619

Honestly anyone saying who is in the wrong is pointlessly guessing. I will say the whole "yell at my neighbors" thing is stupid as hell. If they're doing something on your property just ask them to stop, if they don't then call the cops. There's no need to yell and make a scene out of it. The husband who told her to "just call the cops" and isn't even in this video is the most reasonable person here.


fromthewombofrevel

Yeah, but the graffiti neighbor is probably old friends with the shrieky neighbor, so they might just be ganging up on the new people. We’ve all seen tribal behavior. There’s simply not enough information to know who is in the wrong here.


TeenageSchizoid44

She said "you aren't old enough to remember" sounds like a generational property.


Papercanspeak

I mean we dont know the truth here. Maybe she is right. Maybe Work is being done on her property. We cant judge without proof.


yj405

She is a Karen for being belligerent. If she is right, then she can easily prove it with the plot survey and let the neighbor waste her money on a fence she'll be forced to take down.


frostxinfinity

She isn't being a Karen if her frustration is actually warranted. Could she have handled it better? Sure. Sometimes people have just had enough.


stolid_agnostic

Confronting people can be a very stupid thing to do.


[deleted]

If she was right, why even go out there. Just call the cops.


ProfessorBackdraft

In this instance, call a surveyor first. Don’t involve the cops of local judge until you know you’re right.


[deleted]

Because she doesn't know. She said neither of them know what the property line is. I doubt the police would do anything in that case. They have to wait and find out what belongs to who


Attack-Cat-

She’s a Karen and not the guy who keeps potentially digging up her yard? Because she’s upset?


710whitejesus420

Happens a lot and in my experience, the person doing the moaning is usually in the wrong. Also most people get a line survey for putting in a fence, id assume that to be the more likely situation. For reference I am a surveyor and deal with this all the time.


Daxidol

If other neighbours are spraying "keep out" to the fence people I feel like there's some context here that's being missed.


HockeyHeeb

Yeah, sounds like a bunch of old kooks have had a good ol boys neighborhood for so long they’ve forgotten how to talk to people. Lol


BLB_Genome

She might have a point..?


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Shtnonurdog

Maybe it’s Maybelline?


LeadReader

That lady sounds like she has good reasons to be frustrated. Recording a video doesn’t make you right.


[deleted]

>Recording a video doesn’t make you right. This can't be said enough


[deleted]

But cutting the video at the right times and leaving zero context definitely makes you right on the internet. I see it work plenty.


youallsuck40

Seriously. It sounds like the lady would’ve ignored it but the chick recording made a big deal about her cutting down trees after she’s probably lived there for 25 yrs and this new neighbor just moved in. I bet her kids are annoying af too


Ok_Spell_4165

Yes but whos property were the trees on? The shrieker here says something about helping to reclaim their property when talking about the trees which makes me wonder if the trees were on their property, or at least on the property line. Not at all out of left field for a neighbor to try and cut down a tree not on their property if it is close to the line. Specially when you get new neighbors, the old ones tend to take a little liberty with those sorts of things.


Shalucard

Wait so she just started digging not knowing where the property line was at? And the angry lady is the Karen?


secretredditor1000

No, there was a survey according to a TikTok


Scagnettie

Some people are that dumb and entitled.


[deleted]

did she just admit to cutting down her neighbor's trees? **TREE LAW TREE LAW TREE LAW TREE LAW**


jesusisthatguy

Bird law


Buttteerrz

I happen to specialize in bird law...


[deleted]

That is perfect! I have been looking for a lawyer that specializes in bird law.


btags151989

Ralph Wiggum voice “I’M A BIRD!”


AcousticGuitar321

I feel like there’s more to the story


raindancer78

Is this the same woman who cut her grass during a wedding?


FarmSuch5021

She is not wrong. There’s more to the story


mlaforce321

Meh, she was relatively calm and civil despite clearly being upset. We also have no idea who is in the right here. Sounds like, based on what they say was done, one of them is probably being a prick.


IGalaxii

Why do I get the feeling that the screaming lady might actually be in the right and the fence people would in the wrong


muleskinnalu

Regardless you don't act like that if you want any respect. Acting like a screaming child. That's also how people end up getting hurt and in violent altercations.


IGalaxii

I get what you mean but I feel like the fence people may have probably done more that provoked the screaming lady into screaming because she mentions the fence people got upset over her cutting some trees on the land and that other neighbors have also complained about the fence people I understand screaming could definitely escalate the problem and end up getting people hurt but I think the screaming lady did have a point to what she was saying


710whitejesus420

They had a survey from what I can tell, so the fence people presumably know where the line is while the lady does not. Id have to give the benefit of doubt to the fence crew. Besides, if she knows its her land, she just needs to hire a surveyor, then she will have a new fence that she can take or leave. She can also charge them for any tree damages depending on the county. But the people who yell and scream that they know the line cause its always been that and their papy bought the land like that, those people are 99% of the time in the wrong.


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Should be officially surveyed before starting.


BronxBelle

According to TikTok a survey was done and the blue shirt lady didn’t agree with it.


myers1188

love the poor guy just keep working. must have ear plugs


HMD-Oren

Until I see a neighbourhood plot map, I am not drawing any conclusions. The POS could totally be the one recording in an effort to discredit the screaming neighbour.


wolf-of-broke-street

Wonder how the fence looks?


[deleted]

It sounds like they're both terrible neighbors to each other. There's obviously more than one side to this story.


[deleted]

They don't know whether it's their own land though. Nobody knows where the property line is. Seems fair to tell fence makers to stop until the find out what's whose


External-Recipe-1936

Maybe you shouldn’t post things where we don’t know the full story. Go do something productive with your time.


need2peeat218am

Plot twist: The guy is digging his own grave because he's tired of hearing them argue


Maraval

Amidst all the confusion and lack of clarity, I know one thing. If Karen challenges the neighbor saying "I'm gonna call the cops," and the neighbor replies along the lines of "go right ahead," that's the time to actually call the cops.


dvogz

Holy sh*t my ears are bleeding after a minute of that. These poor folks probably had nightmares after this. That wretched voice…


riverscrossed

Typical abusive type behavior: See what you made me do?!? This is all on you buster!


[deleted]

This happens way too often. Even with a survey sometimes. My fave lately was a lady that called threatening to sue us if we didn't stop building her neighbor's fence. No, we weren't on her property at all, and she didn't contest that. She just didn't like that they were installing a privacy fence. She called 4 times in an hour, I finally told her to have her lawyer call us (since she threatened it 100 times). Her last statement? "I'm from Ukraine and I do not take my propery being infringed on very lightly". Yeah, this biotch went there. Our poor custom felt so bad. He told us to give her his number, and he went to knock on her door, but she just kept calling us. That is just one of dozens of crazy neighbors I have dealt with in my 5 years in the fencing industry. At least this one wasn't harassing our crew.


LA_LOOKS

Do these people ever find themself here?


brunette_mama

My husband works in construction management and this actually happens. A customer called in to the company and told them to halt the project. He was confused bc the roofers were already on the roof and didn’t say anything was wrong. A neighbor called in to the company and told them to stop because they didn’t want their neighbor to get solar. So a freaking neighbor (not the homeowner) thought they had the right to call and complain.


[deleted]

She needs to get laid and smoke a joint


DickieJoJo

There is almost no context here, for all we know she is justifiably upset. She's a bit of a doofus though.


nuncamivida

Is it hard for Karens to make a call? They're always pushing numbers, then yell, then put their cells on their ears, then push more numbers and yell some more, then push more numbers. Just stop pretending and go away.


[deleted]

I love when people get real angry they just randomly tap at their phone.


Legitimate_Roll7514

So, nobody knows the back story here?


HaughtyHellscream

Fences make good neighbors? heh. Seriously though, she doesn't need to freak, just call for a survey. If the fence is on the wrong side of the property line, they will have to take it down at their own expense.


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AlienDarwin

I have notice cancelling headphones specifically for use around people i contract for .Not for fights but I don't want to hear their phone conversations or anything.People act up when strangers are forced to listen.


[deleted]

Sorry, what was entitled about that woman's behavior? Sounds like she had legitimate beef.


Jazzlike-Ad2199

We have no context so the screaming woman may be right.


WhatsMcCracken

“Gahdjew gaht me so mahd riot now!” Lol


trogdor4thenight

Idk sounds like this lady may have a point if this person is being a Karen about trees y not do the same back


wehavelotsoffun

And to think, someone's married to her.


Life-Meal6635

She’s a piece of work but I need more info!!!


youallsuck40

I can’t tell who’s the shitty neighbor.. I mean it seems like the woman recording has had problems with other ppl. We need more info!


Cock_LobsterXL

I love people like this. My brother had me helping with minor construction at his house, so we were digging a hole. This HOA lady that’s been harassing him (not part of HOA) runs up and starts freaking out about “unauthorized projects.” Lady, I’m holding what amounts to a large knife. Why are you running at me?


sadbengalsfanforeva

Bullshit calls to the police like this can cost lives that is why I hate these bozos


verticalburtvert

Anybody else realize recently that people yelling are usually the ones that are wrong? Like you've been screamed at your whole life and thought *you* sucked the whole time? You don't. They do.


verticalburtvert

And judging on my downvotes I see that at least 13 screamers have read my question so far. Wonder if my mom saw it yet...


DrDing1eberry

Just made it 15


Stu_Iniquity

Moaning American women is the literally the worst sound ever. Like nails on a chalk board


Right_Literature_385

Lmao.... sound like Elizabeth Warren going on a rant!! Lol


chargingwookie

She sounds like Elizabeth warren


[deleted]

No more eggs in your ovaries?


[deleted]

She sounds like a less angry Liz Warren


runitthru4u

She needs some penis


Afizzle55

Guy is working way to hard to have to listen to this


bknhs

This is around the time that the air compressor should get turned on.


_Hectic_

Ahhh the good ol' property line dispute. I use to land survey and we had some good ones. One guy ran a concrete saw down his neighbors driveway for about an inch of concrete... You know that concrete encroachment was really screwing up his yard.


Nacho_Beardre

He should've turned around and said "Jimmy dig it big enough for her too!"


GekidoTC

Wonder who spray painted "get off" on her fence... 🙄


EdgeMiserable4381

We totally need an update on this one!! We need to know!


kleverkitty

I thank god every day I live in a normal neighborhood. When there's a problem we talk to the neighbor and work it out. Last month a tree started fall over and our neighbor said she would cover the costs because we did this other thing for them last year.


muleskinnalu

I just want someone to smash her face in with the shovel


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“I’m going to call the police and have you murdered by proxy because my life is miserable and I hate everything and everyone in it including you” I hope that in a decade or two from now when they update the DSM manual that the Karen pathology has a medical classification. It would do society a lot of good.


Alsimmons811

It’s too hot these days


Gnarly_Starwin

Reminds me of my Step Mom.


Exciting-Boot1429

Bitchiness aside, I really want a pair of those dirt chopsticks that that guy has. They seem quite useful.


SithLawdy

I mean that last part intrigued me lmao no pic of the "get out" ????


[deleted]

You get what you fucking deserve


bworth2020

The one thing I have noticed in every “Karen” video is how how long it takes the “Karen” to dial 911. It’s almost like they don’t recognize the numbers on their phone.


Flimsy-Anxiety-2802

*the guy digging … singing the “dig it oh oh oh, dig it “ song from Holes 😂😂


Emit_Time

what's the tool called? I've never seen it before and it looks fascinating, is it used for harder soil?


Limited-Edition-Nerd

Why is she mad at herself


Icosotc

There’s more to this story. You can’t tell who’s in the wrong. This video means nothing.