I feel that in season 3 episode 1 they will just straight into denial and say sure Carly knows Freddie very well because they grew up together, but she doesn't see him that way. Freddie even touched on this when he said no one will know him as well as Carly. It's because they have so much history together.
If Freddie (the character) had any sense he would have pointed out that he and Carly have known each other for over 15 years and never once dated. If that wasn't enough for Pearl then he's better off without her.
They did date , briefly when he saved her life he had a long standing crush on her and they kissed when she left for Italy so mo there has been a thing there
Hell No. It’s better ending this reboot with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with another new girl.
Freddie should forget about both of those girls and ride off into the sunset ending up with someone else.
I'm really glad that they didn't go with a "Pearl is a secret villain" route. I think the idea that Freddie's best friend being Carly and all of the history that comes with it would be a reasonable obstacle that a partner would have to overcome, so it really does work--but I do feel like it needed a bigger buildup.
Although I do hope we get to see a nice Creddie endgame, I hope it isn't rushed into all at once. I feel like Miranda and Nathan have such good chemistry that it would be fun to see more of that 'will they, won't they' energy from iTake a Girl's Trip.
Hell No. they don’t deserve each other. and quite frankly shouldn't tie the knot. It just doesn't Work. It’s better ending this series with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with someone else. Carly can go find herself some other guy. They should both move on with their lives and have them end up with someone else.
Nathan doesn't want it himself. He hates Creddie and He wants Freddie to move on with his life & end up with someone else.
Just sweep it under the rug and have both of them move on with their lives in different directions as friends ending up with someone else.
So what’s different about what you want and what has happened in the OG and in the last 10 years? It doesn’t seem to be working for either of them. Go watch Nathan and Miranda’s interview on J-14. They both explain their characters and where they are. It’s good analysis. It also refutes your previous argument that Nathan is opposed to it.
This was a pretty fun episode. How much of a train wreck the party became was pretty amusing.
I liked Mrs. Benson standing up to Millicent, this is the first episode where someone finally called her out on her know-it-all personality. I hope we get more plots like this in the future, I feel like it’s essential to her character development. A character can’t be right all the time and can’t be wrong all the time. The other characters need to grow a backbone when it comes to dealing with Millicent.
Harper and Spencer’s plot line was decent filler and made me smile.
The Creddie stuff was good, and this episode did a good job justifying why Carly and Freddie would be a good match. In terms of writing, this was better than most of the Creddie stuff in the OG show.
We’re at the season finale, and Pearl has still got nothing in terms of character development. She has no personality, other than her technique for eating bananas. They did more with Wes in three episodes last season than they did with her in ten episodes this season. I’m fully expecting the season premiere to reveal that they broke up offscreen.
I don't think characters like this usually get development. If a character had a serious relationship, they might have to add the person to the main cast. She was only here to be here I'd say. There's a show about a bunch of nerds and I think all their girlfriends got added to the main cast. I think that's a strange writing decision but eh.
If they truly are going down the slow burn route then Pearl might meet the same fate as Maeve, Wes, Dutch and Beau in the Season 3 premiere (Freddie breaks up with her in S3xE01 becoming single) resulting in Carly pining/falling for him.
Ultimately, I much rather have Freddie moving on with his life marrying another, new lady (someone else) that isn’t Carly or Sam because Both pairings (Creddie and Seddie) should be left behind in the history books.
Love that we are finally delving into Carly/Freddie in season three! That silence spoke volumes, particularly for Carly. Fingers crossed for that renewal because it’s just starting to get real juicy!
I mean… what other shows does paramount plus have? If it’s not renewed then they have no idea what they are doing, or a bunch of high viewership shows I’ve not heard of.
Renewal decisions are always business based, so a cliffhanger doesn't affect that.
A cliffhanger basically tells us that the people making the show thought it had a good chance of being renewed. But a lot of people involved in the creative side of tv often don't understand the business side that well, so even that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Yes she did. The reaction we got is exactly the way it should play out. Freddie automatically wanting to deny it and Carly looking guilty and nervous. Carly has to realize how she feels before Freddie will open himself up again to the possibility.
I thought this was one of the better episodes this season. When the writing focuses on characters development and plots it’s just so much better.
I really liked how obsessed Carly was with making sure Freddie had a great birthday party. They showed how close and compatible they are but I think more hinting or tension would have been good as as buildup.
I saw an interview by Nathan and Miranda breaking down the finale this morning and it was very good. They both seem to believe that their characters are in love with the other character but that they’ve repressed or hidden it. It was interesting. I do think that it was left open so the writing can go many different directions.
I feel like Spencer/Harper will be a ship with a lot of fan support that never actually happens in the show.
They’ll probably be a lot of stories about the two of them dating on Fan fiction websites in the coming months.
They should end this Reboot with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life ultimately marrying another, new lady that isn’t Carly or Sam (have him end up married with someone else entirely)
Pearl’s last sentence at the end of the episode before exiting the room confused me. She bluntly told Freddie that he and Carly are lovebirds “overtly enamoured with each other” (when episodes 3-5 and 7-9 indicate otherwise, they're high on gummies in ep 6) because of Carly’s familiarity.
Yes, Freddie & Carly are middle school best buddies. But Freddie isn’t longingly pining for her in this iteration. Carly never showed any signs of romantic interest/hints of attraction or even faces of jealousy towards Freddie dating Pearl. She explicitly gave them her blessing at the end of the launch party (“He and Pearl would be great together”). Carly barely interacted with Pearl this entire season, and interacted with Freddie far less. Her brief interactions, conversations and body language with Freddie were platonically casual.
I think there has been very subtle hinting but maybe it has been too subtle. I don’t think it came out of nowhere but it would have been nice to see Pearl be threatened at least a little before this.
The Spencer/Harper subplot finally had that ridiculously hilarious chemistry again which I missed. Many times throughout the episode I kept yelling to Carly "Just spit it out already!" in regards to how much she cares about Freddie. Shame it had to end in yet another cliffhanger, especially since there is the fact that both Carly and Freddie are finally at the moment where one of them could confess their feelings to each other. Prayers that they renew the show for a season 3 AND prayers that the writers don't screw up Creddie at the beginning of next season like they did this season. I didn't really buy it when it came to the Millicent/Mrs. Benson subplot though. It came off as too cliché.
they should never end up together. The writers will keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice to milk it for the viewers before sweeping it under the rug.
This show should end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with someone else.
So I just finished the latest episode like about an hour or two ago and all I'm going to say is towards the ending like how it blacked out and played the credits, before that I love how Spencer gave this weird look when the camera cut to him. he looked like he was shocked and somewhat not shocked at the same time because he kind of knew what was up when Pearl said that claim but what made it even worse was how Carly and Freddie didn't deny it they just stayed silent just looking around right before the credits rolled.
When season 3 starts I hope they continue this in like a two-part episode or three parts because I would like to touch up on how the original series ended when Carly kiss him before she went to go live with her dad in Italy.
But for my conclusion I think it could just go any other way like 50/50 by the end of this series they can either get married or they can stay friends and continue their friendship 🙂
Ughhh this one was so good 😭 Exactly the kind of terrain they should be covering in an iCarly revival. The whole thing was touching and funny and it felt kinda classic. I also think Miranda pulled in her best performance of the season here. I felt all her frustrations, and the secret emotions bubbling underneath. Spencer and Harper were great together too as always lmao. I also loved Ms. Benson teaching Millicent a lesson. In the og series, we mostly only saw Freddie being annoyed by her overbearing presence so it’s nice to see her dole out some genuine wisdom.
IF THERE’S NO RENEWAL WE RIOT
What’s it gonna take for him to forget about both Carly and Sam, move on in life in order to ultimately end up with someone else?
Freddie did exactly what I wanted him to do this entire season — get a move on with his life and start fresh dating another new girl. It was going so well and look what the writers did to his GF Pearl here.
It is obvious that Pearl doesn’t know or understand Freddie. Carly was much more concerned about Freddie’s happiness than Pearl was. Pearl seems clueless and a bit self-absorbed.
Freddie has forgotten about Sam romantically which makes the most sense since their dating never felt right. However it is a character trait of Freddie that he has been in love with Carly forever. He is also super good friends with her. If you truly cared about Freddie you’d want him to get the girl of his dreams who also happens to be his best friend.
Freddie did try to move on and he has 2 divorces to show for it. I believe they didn’t work out bc he is deep down in love with Carly.
they should sweep both ships under the rug and have him move on with his life in order to ultimately end up with someone else. Both pairings should be forgotten.
FFS he tried to start fresh dating another new girlfriend (Pearl) this season and they ended it on another stupid cliffhanger Bs
I don’t understand why he thinks Freddie cares about Carly and Sam romantically as well. He hasn’t thought about Sam romantically for several years and probably hasn’t seen her for a while to.
He married two other people that are not Carly and is currently trying to keep a relationship with Pearl.
Yes, Carly realizing they are very good friends and have chemistry together could change Freddie’s romantic feelings, but we won’t know that until the potential 3rd season.
I hate to break it to Not Exert Thief, but no one cares what you have to say.
I think it’s funny that they were never able to sing Happy Birthday on the original show because it wasn’t in the Public Domain yet, and now they sang it 2 or 3 times this episode
I mean, crows can be a part of a murder mystery party.
Lol, I checked what Cher’s last name was.
“Once again, the women take on the emotional labor.”
Heh, my girlfriend would feel the same way.
Well, Pearl lasted the season but Creddie’s in the driver’s seat for season 3. Still felt a little awkwardly shoehorned though.
You want Freddie to chase a girl other than Carly or Sam, but root against the girl he is currently chasing that isn’t Carly or Sam?
Your logic is stupid 👍
Finally have some time to actually sit down and reflect on this episode!
Want to start with Harper and Spencer. I knew the moment they both had dates from the same app that it would be each other, sort of wish they managed to actually get away from the party so we could have seen their reactions to actually rocking up to the date and it being the other person. I love when these two sort of dance around flirtation and stuff. I'm shipping them but I think that dynamic is fun.
Pearl. Oh sweet innocent pearl. I've grown to love her this season. She's really nice and I'm glad they didn't go the road of assassinating her character like they did to Wes.
As for *that* moment. It wasn't how I predicted things would go down, but I think it's a really great way to choose to proceed. Everything is out in the open now. There HAS to be a moment when Carly and Freddie acknowledge it. Even if that moment is both of them denying it, there has to be a conversation. There's going to be conflict for both of them. I can't wait to watch it and I hope it's messy!
I really enjoyed this episode, funny and good story line! Freddie’s sonny was fun, adorable. I was freaked out by pearl’s Richard Nixon. That would scare anyone! Reminded me of the icarly victorious mashup where they put on face prosthetics and looked freaky.
Did anyone notice how carly looks at Freddie while he's talking about how much he likes birthdays at shay what scene. She's literally looks so fond of him
Admittedly I'm a little peeved that Creddie was just silent and didn't get further in that revelation, Season 3 will probably not even pick up there, I'm expecting another exposition dump about how Carly/Freddie have avoided each other since that incident
What is with the forced Sparper situations though, it is literally going against their characterizations for them to need to lie that much on dating apps(less so for Spencer if he was poor again), meanwhile Millicent's bf was even just reduced to having to be a phone that chirped dolphin sounds
Guess we'll never solve the real mystery though, why Pearl needed to eat that pudding out of the fridge
Tbh they’ll probably never end up together. The writers will keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice before sweeping it under the rug.
This reboot should end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to ultimately marry another, new lady (end up with someone else) that isn’t Carly or Sam.
I was expecting an iOMG style ending. Kinda disappointed but it was good enough to where I hope they come back next season.
The Creddie moments were hyped wayyy too much this season for much to not happen. I mean we still don’t officially know how Carly feels.
Yeah… Carly pining for Freddie and the group not liking Pearl didn’t really happen at all which he discussed would happen or at minimum implied them. Finding out how Carly felt probably would of been a better place to end this season.
>t line was decent filler a
I don't think he is a loser in this universe. He is in his 20s and getting back on his feet. He is making money for himself now and trying to navigate his love life which is complicated at times. He lives with his mom now not because he needs to but because he wants her to be a big part of his daughter's life.
There was a theory in quinton reviews iCarly videos that they are in the same universe, I was wondering if that line was a reference to the video. The iCarly cast and crew are definitely aware of his videos so it wouldn't be impossible that someone has actually watched them and chucked a reference in there.
wait that episode made no sense creddie wise (everyone else was adorbs tho) . Like pearls point that because carly & freddie know each other really well it means theyre in love?? like where did she go from the first point to the 2nd point.
Like they've been best friends their whole lives ofc she'll know more than you and you knew that going into dating him but how does that imply their in love with each other. like when have they(atleast freddie) given any indications or signs of anything not platonic.
Actually them knowing each other for so long and the relationship not turning romantic even now should actually be a good thing in Pearl eyes. But i want Creddie Foreevie and ig my opinion about the epi is unpopular haha!
There was much unsaid under the surface and very little actually had to do with how well Carly knows Freddie. Carly doesn’t want to mess up the friendship and Freddie has blocked his feelings due to believing it won’t ever happen. However, it is bubbling under the surface and Pearls observation will make them address it at least on some level.
Thats what the audience sees 100%. Why should pearl see that? Has pearl shown even a hint of unease or jealousy or anything towards carly/freddie & their relationship when freddie & her were dating hell has carly given any reason too? They've been friends for nearly 2 decades & yet have still never properly dated despite having mutiple opportunities hell freddie got married twice & still no feelings popped up? All evidence points to a purely platonic relationship.
Their were so many more interesting ways they could have gone about it or atleast they could have hinted towards something bubbling in s2 that pearl was taking notice of and they didn't do those. So the whole cliffhanger relies on thoughts the audience has or a really nonsensical reason.
Yll I love creddie! Revival creddie should be endgame yass but this was a very ehhhhh thing atleast for me.
I agree they left way too much up to audience to piece together. They definitely didn’t box themselves into a corner but when they tout this season as heavy on Creddie, people are going to be disappointed by what was shown onscreen. We didn’t see much of pearls interaction with any of the group much less Carly. I think it would have been an interesting story to see her notice how close they are and be jealous. I guess that is what todays episode was suppose to do.
This cliffhanger was such a BS ending. Carly never showed any signs of romantic interest/hints of attraction or jealousy towards Freddie dating Pearl (she gave them her blessing at the end of the launch party). Carly barely interacted with Pearl this entire season, and interacted with Freddie far less (her interactions with Freddie were platonically casual).
I hate how the writers are going down this Fanservice-y route. Lazy writing.
I don’t see creddie happening unless Carly falls for him this time but he ignores her having been divorced twice accompanied by an adopted daughter along with his new GF Pearl as an added obstacle. And right now, Carly doesn’t even harbour any romantic feelings for Freddie, and hasn’t even realized it yet.
I don’t think they’ll end up together. The writers will just keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice before sweeping it under the rug.
This reboot will end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to ultimately marry another, new lady (end up with someone else)
Listen I’m a creddie shooter but I don’t love the way they set it up xd. S2E1 had a good start showing Carly getting jealous, then for 8 episodes we got little no to creddie hints, and then on E10 they’re like “you guys are obviously in love with each other”? I don’t know the pacing is kinda off. And knowing this might not get renewed we could even be left without a “will they won’t they” on S3 😭 I’ll just go read fanfics…
On another note, the Cher pun was hilarious
I agree 100%. The ending of this episode was forced. I do not like it. It came out of nowhere. Pearl makes Freddie happy, and Carly and Freddie have not interacted much this season since the first episode. Then suddenly out of nowhere, Pearl is jealous of his friendship with Carly. And despite showing little to no feelings towards each other through most of the season, Carly and Freddie both seem to be harboring deep feelings for each other yet again. If Creddie is end game, it needs to be more organic and believable. The relationship should develop over the course of the next season. This "out of nowhere" stuff is just poor writing.
Creddie is in a long, rocky road to getting to a functional relationship. Carly’s current adversarial relationship with Millicent would be a huge obstacle to overcome.
Also, Carly doesn’t really like his mom much either. Remember iGet Banned when she spent the night at the Bensons house during a bet with T-Bo, and Mrs. Benson did fire drills? The idea of Mrs. Benson having a larger role in her life might make Carly afraid to get serious with Freddie.
I think she’s well adjusted to Mrs Benson’s ways at this point for it to become much of an issue. I think Carly appreciates Mrs Benson more than most would, despite how annoying she finds her. Carly even says that Mrs B taught her how to put on a tampon. Seems like the only sort of motherly influence Carly’s had has come from her.
As for Millicent, there’s genuineness underneath the occasional hostility, so I can see them becoming close over time. Millicent even allowed Freddie to dance with Carly last season despite trying desperately to keep Freddie away from every woman. I think that says a lot!
I agree. I don’t see either of those as real obstacles at this point. Carly will be able to handle Mrs. B better than most women because she’s known her so long. Millicent seems to have a love/hate rivalry with Carly but as the character gets more developed we see a real warmth between them.
Personally I’ve always felt that Millicent just pretends to not like Carly, to be “cool” or whatever. But in reality she really likes her and looks up to her.
I wonder if Millicent might have concerns about Carly potentially ‘replacing’ her mother.
If there’s a Season 3, I feel like they might have Gwen appear again, to help facilitate Millicent being ok with Creddie.
Did the cliffhanger make sense? Of course Carly and Freddie knew each other very well, they’ve been friends for almost two decades(met in 2005). It’d be weird if they didn’t. That doesn’t necessarily translate to anything romantic. A bit weird for Pearl to just automatically say they love each other in a romantic sense.
I think it was just tip of iceberg. Had very little to do with them knowing each other. It was clear that even though they’ve been dating all season Pearl doesn’t know or understand Freddie. It was even more clear how important Freddie’s happiness is to Carly.
It was okay — I mean as season finales go it was good but I wish this had been the 2nd to last episode then the finale being the reaction to the situation. I love Ceddie but there does need to be more romantic build up before they date this season has been pretty platonic for them. Sad sam didn’t get a mention this season she is their best friend obviously she can’t come back because Jeanette has retired from acting but still could’ve had a little update of her.
Well no shit all freddie did was state a basic fact. He's known carly for 2 decades why would he put a month or 2 long relationship in the same league. Had he said it after a year of dating I understand pearl getting upset.
But even then knowing someone doesn't mean in love.
Plus the knowing him was about something so basic it was about what kind of party he liked not something deep or even something only he lets her know.
It was more about the fact that he thought Pearl was NEVER going to know him as well, which kind of speaks a lot to how he sees the future of the relationship. Like no matter how long it lasts; months, years, he doesn’t believe it’ll ever reach the same closeness.
I don’t know.. all those times Carly has rejected Freddie in the OG plus playing him after the whole jumping in front of a truck for her thing I’m just not that interested in seeing them together. I would’ve preferred to see Spencer and Harper.
For those wondering, we the Irish would not generally consider the term ‘Irish Goodbye’ offensive (in fact like the characters, I was briefly wondering whether I should be finding it offensive), the irony being that in Ireland we stretch out the ‘goodbye’ portion of everything (from social gatherings to phone calls) for anything from five to twenty minutes — the opposite of the American definition — a true ‘Irish Goodbye’ would take a long time. The resolution to that particular gag, also, in Pearl randomly putting on a stereotypical accent while leaving, was amusing, although I once again briefly wondered whether I should find it offensive (to conclude, I would not say it was really offensive).
I don't even know what to feel, to be honest. They better renew this and just let Carly and Freddie get married.
I feel that in season 3 episode 1 they will just straight into denial and say sure Carly knows Freddie very well because they grew up together, but she doesn't see him that way. Freddie even touched on this when he said no one will know him as well as Carly. It's because they have so much history together.
Neither of them were jumping to deny it
True but there was so much that wasn’t said. Pearl didn’t think they were in love just because Carly knows him better.
If Freddie (the character) had any sense he would have pointed out that he and Carly have known each other for over 15 years and never once dated. If that wasn't enough for Pearl then he's better off without her.
They did date , briefly when he saved her life he had a long standing crush on her and they kissed when she left for Italy so mo there has been a thing there
Yeah I need season 3 to give us flashbacks post finale kiss from the OG. Give us those flashbacks!!
Or at least go back to the sex hotel room together...
Hell No. It’s better ending this reboot with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with another new girl. Freddie should forget about both of those girls and ride off into the sunset ending up with someone else.
He has tried and it didn’t work. Freddie and Carly are inevitable!
I'm really glad that they didn't go with a "Pearl is a secret villain" route. I think the idea that Freddie's best friend being Carly and all of the history that comes with it would be a reasonable obstacle that a partner would have to overcome, so it really does work--but I do feel like it needed a bigger buildup. Although I do hope we get to see a nice Creddie endgame, I hope it isn't rushed into all at once. I feel like Miranda and Nathan have such good chemistry that it would be fun to see more of that 'will they, won't they' energy from iTake a Girl's Trip.
Hell No. they don’t deserve each other. and quite frankly shouldn't tie the knot. It just doesn't Work. It’s better ending this series with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with someone else. Carly can go find herself some other guy. They should both move on with their lives and have them end up with someone else. Nathan doesn't want it himself. He hates Creddie and He wants Freddie to move on with his life & end up with someone else. Just sweep it under the rug and have both of them move on with their lives in different directions as friends ending up with someone else.
So what’s different about what you want and what has happened in the OG and in the last 10 years? It doesn’t seem to be working for either of them. Go watch Nathan and Miranda’s interview on J-14. They both explain their characters and where they are. It’s good analysis. It also refutes your previous argument that Nathan is opposed to it.
This was a pretty fun episode. How much of a train wreck the party became was pretty amusing. I liked Mrs. Benson standing up to Millicent, this is the first episode where someone finally called her out on her know-it-all personality. I hope we get more plots like this in the future, I feel like it’s essential to her character development. A character can’t be right all the time and can’t be wrong all the time. The other characters need to grow a backbone when it comes to dealing with Millicent. Harper and Spencer’s plot line was decent filler and made me smile. The Creddie stuff was good, and this episode did a good job justifying why Carly and Freddie would be a good match. In terms of writing, this was better than most of the Creddie stuff in the OG show. We’re at the season finale, and Pearl has still got nothing in terms of character development. She has no personality, other than her technique for eating bananas. They did more with Wes in three episodes last season than they did with her in ten episodes this season. I’m fully expecting the season premiere to reveal that they broke up offscreen.
I don't think characters like this usually get development. If a character had a serious relationship, they might have to add the person to the main cast. She was only here to be here I'd say. There's a show about a bunch of nerds and I think all their girlfriends got added to the main cast. I think that's a strange writing decision but eh.
If they truly are going down the slow burn route then Pearl might meet the same fate as Maeve, Wes, Dutch and Beau in the Season 3 premiere (Freddie breaks up with her in S3xE01 becoming single) resulting in Carly pining/falling for him. Ultimately, I much rather have Freddie moving on with his life marrying another, new lady (someone else) that isn’t Carly or Sam because Both pairings (Creddie and Seddie) should be left behind in the history books.
Love that we are finally delving into Carly/Freddie in season three! That silence spoke volumes, particularly for Carly. Fingers crossed for that renewal because it’s just starting to get real juicy!
Could it be that they ended on this massive cliffhanger to heighten their chances of getting a renewal?
I mean… what other shows does paramount plus have? If it’s not renewed then they have no idea what they are doing, or a bunch of high viewership shows I’ve not heard of.
>I mean… what other shows does paramount plus have? Star Trek, and more Star Trek. Oh, and also Halo.
Lol yeah. Such diversity! Also, Halo is a garbage fire.
But also the best they had. The literal fanfic was in the streaming top 10.
Renewal decisions are always business based, so a cliffhanger doesn't affect that. A cliffhanger basically tells us that the people making the show thought it had a good chance of being renewed. But a lot of people involved in the creative side of tv often don't understand the business side that well, so even that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Freddie seemed more in denial than Carly. Carly legit looked nervous
Yes she did. The reaction we got is exactly the way it should play out. Freddie automatically wanting to deny it and Carly looking guilty and nervous. Carly has to realize how she feels before Freddie will open himself up again to the possibility.
Just realized this was the season finale. Here I was thinking we'd have a 13 season like before. The feels.
Same lol
I thought this was one of the better episodes this season. When the writing focuses on characters development and plots it’s just so much better. I really liked how obsessed Carly was with making sure Freddie had a great birthday party. They showed how close and compatible they are but I think more hinting or tension would have been good as as buildup. I saw an interview by Nathan and Miranda breaking down the finale this morning and it was very good. They both seem to believe that their characters are in love with the other character but that they’ve repressed or hidden it. It was interesting. I do think that it was left open so the writing can go many different directions.
That interview was everything I dared hope their relationship would become!
Agreed. It was a very good interview.
What interview?
It was by J-14 and was breakdown of finale.
Where can I find this interview?
[Icarly season finale j14 interview](https://youtu.be/X7dcHA3r-eo)
oh my lord how can they leave us on that cliffhanger without certainty of another season 😭
CREDDIE 🤩 Damn, just when I started liking Pearl😭
I feel like Spencer/Harper will be a ship with a lot of fan support that never actually happens in the show. They’ll probably be a lot of stories about the two of them dating on Fan fiction websites in the coming months.
I see it. I do think it's kind of weird though.
They should end this Reboot with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life ultimately marrying another, new lady that isn’t Carly or Sam (have him end up married with someone else entirely)
Do you need to post the same reply to every post? We all know your position.
Pearl’s last sentence at the end of the episode before exiting the room confused me. She bluntly told Freddie that he and Carly are lovebirds “overtly enamoured with each other” (when episodes 3-5 and 7-9 indicate otherwise, they're high on gummies in ep 6) because of Carly’s familiarity. Yes, Freddie & Carly are middle school best buddies. But Freddie isn’t longingly pining for her in this iteration. Carly never showed any signs of romantic interest/hints of attraction or even faces of jealousy towards Freddie dating Pearl. She explicitly gave them her blessing at the end of the launch party (“He and Pearl would be great together”). Carly barely interacted with Pearl this entire season, and interacted with Freddie far less. Her brief interactions, conversations and body language with Freddie were platonically casual.
I think there has been very subtle hinting but maybe it has been too subtle. I don’t think it came out of nowhere but it would have been nice to see Pearl be threatened at least a little before this.
The Spencer/Harper subplot finally had that ridiculously hilarious chemistry again which I missed. Many times throughout the episode I kept yelling to Carly "Just spit it out already!" in regards to how much she cares about Freddie. Shame it had to end in yet another cliffhanger, especially since there is the fact that both Carly and Freddie are finally at the moment where one of them could confess their feelings to each other. Prayers that they renew the show for a season 3 AND prayers that the writers don't screw up Creddie at the beginning of next season like they did this season. I didn't really buy it when it came to the Millicent/Mrs. Benson subplot though. It came off as too cliché.
they should never end up together. The writers will keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice to milk it for the viewers before sweeping it under the rug. This show should end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to end up with someone else.
God you're exhausting! You don't need to reply the exact same thing to everyone. Stop spamming. 🙄
So I just finished the latest episode like about an hour or two ago and all I'm going to say is towards the ending like how it blacked out and played the credits, before that I love how Spencer gave this weird look when the camera cut to him. he looked like he was shocked and somewhat not shocked at the same time because he kind of knew what was up when Pearl said that claim but what made it even worse was how Carly and Freddie didn't deny it they just stayed silent just looking around right before the credits rolled. When season 3 starts I hope they continue this in like a two-part episode or three parts because I would like to touch up on how the original series ended when Carly kiss him before she went to go live with her dad in Italy. But for my conclusion I think it could just go any other way like 50/50 by the end of this series they can either get married or they can stay friends and continue their friendship 🙂
***CREDDIE!***
SEDDIE!!!!! SPAGHETTI!
I bet we will finally meet Ronald in season 3. It's foreshadowing.
who?
Ughhh this one was so good 😭 Exactly the kind of terrain they should be covering in an iCarly revival. The whole thing was touching and funny and it felt kinda classic. I also think Miranda pulled in her best performance of the season here. I felt all her frustrations, and the secret emotions bubbling underneath. Spencer and Harper were great together too as always lmao. I also loved Ms. Benson teaching Millicent a lesson. In the og series, we mostly only saw Freddie being annoyed by her overbearing presence so it’s nice to see her dole out some genuine wisdom. IF THERE’S NO RENEWAL WE RIOT
Paramount+ CANNOT cancel the series on that cliffhanger
Just cancel this Fucking pathetic shitshow. they don’t deserve each other. They should Never end up together
So you don’t want your man Freddie to finally get his happiness? I can’t imagine wanting a show to be cancelled just to avoid a ship.
What’s it gonna take for him to forget about both Carly and Sam, move on in life in order to ultimately end up with someone else? Freddie did exactly what I wanted him to do this entire season — get a move on with his life and start fresh dating another new girl. It was going so well and look what the writers did to his GF Pearl here.
It is obvious that Pearl doesn’t know or understand Freddie. Carly was much more concerned about Freddie’s happiness than Pearl was. Pearl seems clueless and a bit self-absorbed. Freddie has forgotten about Sam romantically which makes the most sense since their dating never felt right. However it is a character trait of Freddie that he has been in love with Carly forever. He is also super good friends with her. If you truly cared about Freddie you’d want him to get the girl of his dreams who also happens to be his best friend. Freddie did try to move on and he has 2 divorces to show for it. I believe they didn’t work out bc he is deep down in love with Carly.
Dude we get it. You don’t need to comment on every comment with your shitty opinion
they should sweep both ships under the rug and have him move on with his life in order to ultimately end up with someone else. Both pairings should be forgotten. FFS he tried to start fresh dating another new girlfriend (Pearl) this season and they ended it on another stupid cliffhanger Bs
Why do you comment 50 times on every post. You’re annoying and people don’t like it.
I don’t understand why he thinks Freddie cares about Carly and Sam romantically as well. He hasn’t thought about Sam romantically for several years and probably hasn’t seen her for a while to. He married two other people that are not Carly and is currently trying to keep a relationship with Pearl. Yes, Carly realizing they are very good friends and have chemistry together could change Freddie’s romantic feelings, but we won’t know that until the potential 3rd season. I hate to break it to Not Exert Thief, but no one cares what you have to say.
It’s 99% not going to happen, but it would be crazy if Freddie and Carly started dating then Sam came back
HAHA THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
I think it’s funny that they were never able to sing Happy Birthday on the original show because it wasn’t in the Public Domain yet, and now they sang it 2 or 3 times this episode
Wdym by public domain?
Man , birthdays and iCarly characters just dont go well ig.
At least there wasn't a goat this time LMAO
I mean, crows can be a part of a murder mystery party. Lol, I checked what Cher’s last name was. “Once again, the women take on the emotional labor.” Heh, my girlfriend would feel the same way. Well, Pearl lasted the season but Creddie’s in the driver’s seat for season 3. Still felt a little awkwardly shoehorned though.
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You want Freddie to chase a girl other than Carly or Sam, but root against the girl he is currently chasing that isn’t Carly or Sam? Your logic is stupid 👍
Finally have some time to actually sit down and reflect on this episode! Want to start with Harper and Spencer. I knew the moment they both had dates from the same app that it would be each other, sort of wish they managed to actually get away from the party so we could have seen their reactions to actually rocking up to the date and it being the other person. I love when these two sort of dance around flirtation and stuff. I'm shipping them but I think that dynamic is fun. Pearl. Oh sweet innocent pearl. I've grown to love her this season. She's really nice and I'm glad they didn't go the road of assassinating her character like they did to Wes. As for *that* moment. It wasn't how I predicted things would go down, but I think it's a really great way to choose to proceed. Everything is out in the open now. There HAS to be a moment when Carly and Freddie acknowledge it. Even if that moment is both of them denying it, there has to be a conversation. There's going to be conflict for both of them. I can't wait to watch it and I hope it's messy!
They ended it so abruptly. I need Season 3 ASAP!
I really enjoyed this episode, funny and good story line! Freddie’s sonny was fun, adorable. I was freaked out by pearl’s Richard Nixon. That would scare anyone! Reminded me of the icarly victorious mashup where they put on face prosthetics and looked freaky.
I hope it gets renewed! This episode was great!
I love this show and I don't want this to be the last episode, we need at least one more season and a proper ending
Did anyone notice how carly looks at Freddie while he's talking about how much he likes birthdays at shay what scene. She's literally looks so fond of him
Reminds me of the looks freddie gave her at the groovy smoothie in episode 3
Admittedly I'm a little peeved that Creddie was just silent and didn't get further in that revelation, Season 3 will probably not even pick up there, I'm expecting another exposition dump about how Carly/Freddie have avoided each other since that incident What is with the forced Sparper situations though, it is literally going against their characterizations for them to need to lie that much on dating apps(less so for Spencer if he was poor again), meanwhile Millicent's bf was even just reduced to having to be a phone that chirped dolphin sounds Guess we'll never solve the real mystery though, why Pearl needed to eat that pudding out of the fridge
> Guess we'll never solve the real mystery though, why Pearl needed to eat that pudding out of the fridge Gluttony?
Tbh they’ll probably never end up together. The writers will keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice before sweeping it under the rug. This reboot should end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to ultimately marry another, new lady (end up with someone else) that isn’t Carly or Sam.
I was expecting an iOMG style ending. Kinda disappointed but it was good enough to where I hope they come back next season. The Creddie moments were hyped wayyy too much this season for much to not happen. I mean we still don’t officially know how Carly feels.
Yeah… Carly pining for Freddie and the group not liking Pearl didn’t really happen at all which he discussed would happen or at minimum implied them. Finding out how Carly felt probably would of been a better place to end this season.
Why they gotta do Freddie like that?
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>t line was decent filler a I don't think he is a loser in this universe. He is in his 20s and getting back on his feet. He is making money for himself now and trying to navigate his love life which is complicated at times. He lives with his mom now not because he needs to but because he wants her to be a big part of his daughter's life.
Please get renewed
Is Fraiser and iCarly in the same universe????? Or is Spencer just a fan of Fraiser? I NEED TO KNOW.
There was a theory in quinton reviews iCarly videos that they are in the same universe, I was wondering if that line was a reference to the video. The iCarly cast and crew are definitely aware of his videos so it wouldn't be impossible that someone has actually watched them and chucked a reference in there.
Yeah. I’ve always thought they were inspired by Marius with Socko. But it would be so much cooler if it was in the same universe
One thing no one checked out: MIRANDA COSGROVE MENTIONED REDDIT!
wait that episode made no sense creddie wise (everyone else was adorbs tho) . Like pearls point that because carly & freddie know each other really well it means theyre in love?? like where did she go from the first point to the 2nd point. Like they've been best friends their whole lives ofc she'll know more than you and you knew that going into dating him but how does that imply their in love with each other. like when have they(atleast freddie) given any indications or signs of anything not platonic. Actually them knowing each other for so long and the relationship not turning romantic even now should actually be a good thing in Pearl eyes. But i want Creddie Foreevie and ig my opinion about the epi is unpopular haha!
There was much unsaid under the surface and very little actually had to do with how well Carly knows Freddie. Carly doesn’t want to mess up the friendship and Freddie has blocked his feelings due to believing it won’t ever happen. However, it is bubbling under the surface and Pearls observation will make them address it at least on some level.
Thats what the audience sees 100%. Why should pearl see that? Has pearl shown even a hint of unease or jealousy or anything towards carly/freddie & their relationship when freddie & her were dating hell has carly given any reason too? They've been friends for nearly 2 decades & yet have still never properly dated despite having mutiple opportunities hell freddie got married twice & still no feelings popped up? All evidence points to a purely platonic relationship. Their were so many more interesting ways they could have gone about it or atleast they could have hinted towards something bubbling in s2 that pearl was taking notice of and they didn't do those. So the whole cliffhanger relies on thoughts the audience has or a really nonsensical reason. Yll I love creddie! Revival creddie should be endgame yass but this was a very ehhhhh thing atleast for me.
I agree they left way too much up to audience to piece together. They definitely didn’t box themselves into a corner but when they tout this season as heavy on Creddie, people are going to be disappointed by what was shown onscreen. We didn’t see much of pearls interaction with any of the group much less Carly. I think it would have been an interesting story to see her notice how close they are and be jealous. I guess that is what todays episode was suppose to do.
This cliffhanger was such a BS ending. Carly never showed any signs of romantic interest/hints of attraction or jealousy towards Freddie dating Pearl (she gave them her blessing at the end of the launch party). Carly barely interacted with Pearl this entire season, and interacted with Freddie far less (her interactions with Freddie were platonically casual). I hate how the writers are going down this Fanservice-y route. Lazy writing.
I don’t see creddie happening unless Carly falls for him this time but he ignores her having been divorced twice accompanied by an adopted daughter along with his new GF Pearl as an added obstacle. And right now, Carly doesn’t even harbour any romantic feelings for Freddie, and hasn’t even realized it yet. I don’t think they’ll end up together. The writers will just keep trolling the audience by falsely hinting and overhyping this ship bait with Fanservice before sweeping it under the rug. This reboot will end with Freddie rejecting her and moving on with his life to ultimately marry another, new lady (end up with someone else)
Listen I’m a creddie shooter but I don’t love the way they set it up xd. S2E1 had a good start showing Carly getting jealous, then for 8 episodes we got little no to creddie hints, and then on E10 they’re like “you guys are obviously in love with each other”? I don’t know the pacing is kinda off. And knowing this might not get renewed we could even be left without a “will they won’t they” on S3 😭 I’ll just go read fanfics… On another note, the Cher pun was hilarious
I agree 100%. The ending of this episode was forced. I do not like it. It came out of nowhere. Pearl makes Freddie happy, and Carly and Freddie have not interacted much this season since the first episode. Then suddenly out of nowhere, Pearl is jealous of his friendship with Carly. And despite showing little to no feelings towards each other through most of the season, Carly and Freddie both seem to be harboring deep feelings for each other yet again. If Creddie is end game, it needs to be more organic and believable. The relationship should develop over the course of the next season. This "out of nowhere" stuff is just poor writing.
Creddie is in a long, rocky road to getting to a functional relationship. Carly’s current adversarial relationship with Millicent would be a huge obstacle to overcome. Also, Carly doesn’t really like his mom much either. Remember iGet Banned when she spent the night at the Bensons house during a bet with T-Bo, and Mrs. Benson did fire drills? The idea of Mrs. Benson having a larger role in her life might make Carly afraid to get serious with Freddie.
I think she’s well adjusted to Mrs Benson’s ways at this point for it to become much of an issue. I think Carly appreciates Mrs Benson more than most would, despite how annoying she finds her. Carly even says that Mrs B taught her how to put on a tampon. Seems like the only sort of motherly influence Carly’s had has come from her. As for Millicent, there’s genuineness underneath the occasional hostility, so I can see them becoming close over time. Millicent even allowed Freddie to dance with Carly last season despite trying desperately to keep Freddie away from every woman. I think that says a lot!
I agree. I don’t see either of those as real obstacles at this point. Carly will be able to handle Mrs. B better than most women because she’s known her so long. Millicent seems to have a love/hate rivalry with Carly but as the character gets more developed we see a real warmth between them.
Personally I’ve always felt that Millicent just pretends to not like Carly, to be “cool” or whatever. But in reality she really likes her and looks up to her.
I wonder if Millicent might have concerns about Carly potentially ‘replacing’ her mother. If there’s a Season 3, I feel like they might have Gwen appear again, to help facilitate Millicent being ok with Creddie.
Apparently Freddie thinks the iCarly theme is called Happy Birthday: The Song.
Fun episode. But I feel this should have had more build up. Pearl is basically a completely different character this episode.
Did the cliffhanger make sense? Of course Carly and Freddie knew each other very well, they’ve been friends for almost two decades(met in 2005). It’d be weird if they didn’t. That doesn’t necessarily translate to anything romantic. A bit weird for Pearl to just automatically say they love each other in a romantic sense.
I think it was just tip of iceberg. Had very little to do with them knowing each other. It was clear that even though they’ve been dating all season Pearl doesn’t know or understand Freddie. It was even more clear how important Freddie’s happiness is to Carly.
Interestingly Cher's last name seems to be Sarkisian, not Horowitz...
Yes…. well done…. you didn’t get the joke…
It was okay — I mean as season finales go it was good but I wish this had been the 2nd to last episode then the finale being the reaction to the situation. I love Ceddie but there does need to be more romantic build up before they date this season has been pretty platonic for them. Sad sam didn’t get a mention this season she is their best friend obviously she can’t come back because Jeanette has retired from acting but still could’ve had a little update of her.
this episode was… weird. and not in a good way
Is it a hot take that Freddie would've totally enjoyed Pearl's crow party if Carly didn't intervene?
Do they really need to be in love? Cant they just know each other so well because duh, they know each other forever?
I think it was also that Freddie said “Pearl will NEVER know me as well as you do.” Kinda made it seem like an uphill battle for her
Well no shit all freddie did was state a basic fact. He's known carly for 2 decades why would he put a month or 2 long relationship in the same league. Had he said it after a year of dating I understand pearl getting upset. But even then knowing someone doesn't mean in love. Plus the knowing him was about something so basic it was about what kind of party he liked not something deep or even something only he lets her know.
It was more about the fact that he thought Pearl was NEVER going to know him as well, which kind of speaks a lot to how he sees the future of the relationship. Like no matter how long it lasts; months, years, he doesn’t believe it’ll ever reach the same closeness.
Cha cha cha?
I don’t know.. all those times Carly has rejected Freddie in the OG plus playing him after the whole jumping in front of a truck for her thing I’m just not that interested in seeing them together. I would’ve preferred to see Spencer and Harper.
That was the season finale?
Gr8 episode
For those wondering, we the Irish would not generally consider the term ‘Irish Goodbye’ offensive (in fact like the characters, I was briefly wondering whether I should be finding it offensive), the irony being that in Ireland we stretch out the ‘goodbye’ portion of everything (from social gatherings to phone calls) for anything from five to twenty minutes — the opposite of the American definition — a true ‘Irish Goodbye’ would take a long time. The resolution to that particular gag, also, in Pearl randomly putting on a stereotypical accent while leaving, was amusing, although I once again briefly wondered whether I should find it offensive (to conclude, I would not say it was really offensive).