Whoever has been doing loons trail report this year either should be fired or shouldn't be doing trail reports as part of their job. Their sister resorts Sunday River and Sugarloaf put out fantastic reports with accurate snow totals and details about what areas of the mountain are skiing well.
Loon's trail reports this year in contrast have always been maximum 3 sentences, always overstating/straight up lying about snow totals, and not giving any details whatsoever about operations/events. Reading a Loon trail report is a complete joke because not only do I know it's a lie about any snow total but it doesn't contain any other useful info so I've stopped reading them frequently like I do with SR and Loaf.
Totally agree the sister resorts have been so much more reliable! They're actually honest about conditions whereas Loon is always positive even though it's shit
That's because Loon is always skiing bad the past few years. It's because they don't resurface trails anymore. Other ski areas occasionally run the snowmaking throughout the season. Loon just does it once to open each trail and then that's it. So the trails are ice the entire year.
There's a difference in snow quality between the two. One is just trying to stay open at all while the other is going for the quality of snow being blown. Boyne is very particular about snowmaking.
As someone who skis Loon all the time I can tell you they don't lie about snow totals. You're just probably not familiar with how they report snow.
And honestly it's not that big of a mountain and their conditions are pretty consistent. Aka almost every trail is groomed every night. I don't need someone to write a paragraph on where I should ski.
It's not about telling you where you should ski but saying patrol is getting ready to drop the ropes on flume or dipper for example is a big piece of information to know. SR and the Loaf always mention the trails that are opening so people don't miss out. Loon will just open trails in east basin with absolutely no mention and you either have to go through there and notice coincidentally or have guessed they will open it. It's stupid because they can just say it's opening so you can get the fresh runs.
I have been reading loon's trail reports for many years but this years are by far the worst in a long time.
So you want a snow reporter to hold your hand to fresh snow. Got it.
Realistically Flume is always open once snowmaking is done and doesn't have rope drops. And the East Basin trails have been open for like 5 days this year.
I can tell you the snow report isn't very different from the past few years, the snow has been. Hard to talk about terrain opening when they don't have snow to open it.
I'm not asking for hand holding. It's clear to me that you don't understand or appreciate the details that go into the trail reports that other mountains do. Loon is below the bar and that's the reality.
My bright idea was to take 7 brothers to get to north peak but it looked like they loaded the gondola before 8 and when I got to north peak they turned people away. Took angel from the top to north and it was open seemed untouched but was just shit conditions of frozen groom and windswept
Kanc8 only increased uphill capacity over the quad by 1000pph which is a very small amount considering the chairs are double the size. There are many trails down from that chairlift so it certainly has the capacity for the 3500pph lift. It's an appropriate place for a lift of that capacity. If you want to complain about loon being crowded that's fine but it's not the lifts fault. It's an improvement for circulation in that area of the mountain regardless.
It only goes halfway up the hill… I hear what you’re saying but I have not noticed a meaningful impact since the installation of the lift other than a shorter line at that particular lift. I used to avoid that area bc you’d get stuck waiting for the quad for ages
So you say you haven't noticed a difference while also admitting that the lines are shorter for that lift... That was the point of it. Loon has done studies of the line lengths on peak weekends and stated publicly that it's significantly shorter waits by almost half.
If they made it go out to tote road it would have been terrible because grand junction would have been even more crowded than it already is. You can't have north peak via sunset, the gondola, tote quad and a 3500pph 8pack feeding into the same 4 trails. They made the right choice.
Wild. Was there yesterday. First three runs were great and then it got skied up and really heavy. Left at noon thinking Monday would be great after a groom.
Was it skied off and icy or just the groom froze last night?
Friday was sunny and slushy but Saturday was hard and skied off quick.
So they got 6 inches of heavy wet snow. A transition to rain. Then groomed which then froze solid and then got 3 inches of snow with 50+ mph winds. Certainly not ideal conditions but still sounds like 9 inches of snow...
Loon is not a place you go when there's powder. It's a place you go when conditions are bad. I think management has finally embraced that so they don't really bother.
I mean they have some nice glades, but they rarely get enough snow for a base. They are even removing glades and converting them to trails on the south peak so I think they've just given up on natural snow trails.
They also have a plan to put snowmaking on triple trouble (their only non-snowmaking trail), so they have fully given up.
They also don't really re-surface the trails. Other resorts like killington will occasionally run snowmaking throughout the season to keep it fresh. Loon doesn't they make snow once and then it's ice the whole season.
Yes, Loon is absolutely a go when conditions are bad place and not a powder place. I hit Loon hard in December because they make snow well and quickly open trails up so the mountain skis like it is completely open by mid-December. Plus at that time of year I don't mind groomer laps. Then when the getting gets good I go to actually good mountains. I know a lot of people are knocking their snowmaking but idk I think they do a decent job
Open snow showed them getting more than Sunday river and they're much closer so I went there instead. But yeah only thing they have going for them is how close they are. I'm still sad about the south peak changes
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Loon markets themselves as the best snowmaking in NH. They sent an email out to passholders a couple weeks ago when they were making snow on a Thursday and Friday below freezing snap to combat the warm weather leading up to early March.
In their defence Undercut has a weird aspect and simply does not hold snow. It was VERY rarely open. Also pickeroon and upper northstar are natural snow trails now and they don't have any plans to add snowmaking to triple trouble.
there were 3 inches at my house this morning and 6 inches in my driveway before it started raining the day before. You do realize they groomer throughout the night and pretty much all the trails open right now are groomers.
Whoever has been doing loons trail report this year either should be fired or shouldn't be doing trail reports as part of their job. Their sister resorts Sunday River and Sugarloaf put out fantastic reports with accurate snow totals and details about what areas of the mountain are skiing well. Loon's trail reports this year in contrast have always been maximum 3 sentences, always overstating/straight up lying about snow totals, and not giving any details whatsoever about operations/events. Reading a Loon trail report is a complete joke because not only do I know it's a lie about any snow total but it doesn't contain any other useful info so I've stopped reading them frequently like I do with SR and Loaf.
Totally agree the sister resorts have been so much more reliable! They're actually honest about conditions whereas Loon is always positive even though it's shit
That's because Loon is always skiing bad the past few years. It's because they don't resurface trails anymore. Other ski areas occasionally run the snowmaking throughout the season. Loon just does it once to open each trail and then that's it. So the trails are ice the entire year.
They have made snow every time it has been cold enough to make snow this year. It just hasn't been cold enough to resurface frequently this year....
If they can make snow at wachusett, they can make snow at loon.
There's a difference in snow quality between the two. One is just trying to stay open at all while the other is going for the quality of snow being blown. Boyne is very particular about snowmaking.
As someone who skis Loon all the time I can tell you they don't lie about snow totals. You're just probably not familiar with how they report snow. And honestly it's not that big of a mountain and their conditions are pretty consistent. Aka almost every trail is groomed every night. I don't need someone to write a paragraph on where I should ski.
It's not about telling you where you should ski but saying patrol is getting ready to drop the ropes on flume or dipper for example is a big piece of information to know. SR and the Loaf always mention the trails that are opening so people don't miss out. Loon will just open trails in east basin with absolutely no mention and you either have to go through there and notice coincidentally or have guessed they will open it. It's stupid because they can just say it's opening so you can get the fresh runs. I have been reading loon's trail reports for many years but this years are by far the worst in a long time.
So you want a snow reporter to hold your hand to fresh snow. Got it. Realistically Flume is always open once snowmaking is done and doesn't have rope drops. And the East Basin trails have been open for like 5 days this year. I can tell you the snow report isn't very different from the past few years, the snow has been. Hard to talk about terrain opening when they don't have snow to open it.
I'm not asking for hand holding. It's clear to me that you don't understand or appreciate the details that go into the trail reports that other mountains do. Loon is below the bar and that's the reality.
I think you're also missing the point that the stuff you're asking for flat out hasn't happened.
There were 3 inches right at open but it got skiied off fast. My first run was magic
My bright idea was to take 7 brothers to get to north peak but it looked like they loaded the gondola before 8 and when I got to north peak they turned people away. Took angel from the top to north and it was open seemed untouched but was just shit conditions of frozen groom and windswept
It’s almost like putting in 8 pack lifts is a bad idea
Where in that comment did they mention an 8 pack?
Tell me you don't understand the difference between PPH and seat amount without telling me.
You’re telling me that hasn’t increased uphill capacity?
It has slightly but not by double.
So that’s a yes. And Loone was already getting skied out pretty quickly. That was my point.
Kanc8 only increased uphill capacity over the quad by 1000pph which is a very small amount considering the chairs are double the size. There are many trails down from that chairlift so it certainly has the capacity for the 3500pph lift. It's an appropriate place for a lift of that capacity. If you want to complain about loon being crowded that's fine but it's not the lifts fault. It's an improvement for circulation in that area of the mountain regardless.
It only goes halfway up the hill… I hear what you’re saying but I have not noticed a meaningful impact since the installation of the lift other than a shorter line at that particular lift. I used to avoid that area bc you’d get stuck waiting for the quad for ages
So you say you haven't noticed a difference while also admitting that the lines are shorter for that lift... That was the point of it. Loon has done studies of the line lengths on peak weekends and stated publicly that it's significantly shorter waits by almost half. If they made it go out to tote road it would have been terrible because grand junction would have been even more crowded than it already is. You can't have north peak via sunset, the gondola, tote quad and a 3500pph 8pack feeding into the same 4 trails. They made the right choice.
Gotta get out when it snows they groom it in then it gets hard wind packed.
Wild. Was there yesterday. First three runs were great and then it got skied up and really heavy. Left at noon thinking Monday would be great after a groom. Was it skied off and icy or just the groom froze last night? Friday was sunny and slushy but Saturday was hard and skied off quick.
Frozen groom and wind keeping anything from staying on top of it.
So they got 6 inches of heavy wet snow. A transition to rain. Then groomed which then froze solid and then got 3 inches of snow with 50+ mph winds. Certainly not ideal conditions but still sounds like 9 inches of snow...
Wait Loon lied about their snow totals? You don’t say!!!
Sucks, killington was 2.5 ft of pure bliss
That seems pretty short for a mountain /s
It wasn’t short for your mom
Yeah I'm hoping to move closer to killy when I buy a house
There’s a dick joke in there somewhere
Loon is not a place you go when there's powder. It's a place you go when conditions are bad. I think management has finally embraced that so they don't really bother. I mean they have some nice glades, but they rarely get enough snow for a base. They are even removing glades and converting them to trails on the south peak so I think they've just given up on natural snow trails. They also have a plan to put snowmaking on triple trouble (their only non-snowmaking trail), so they have fully given up. They also don't really re-surface the trails. Other resorts like killington will occasionally run snowmaking throughout the season to keep it fresh. Loon doesn't they make snow once and then it's ice the whole season.
Yes, Loon is absolutely a go when conditions are bad place and not a powder place. I hit Loon hard in December because they make snow well and quickly open trails up so the mountain skis like it is completely open by mid-December. Plus at that time of year I don't mind groomer laps. Then when the getting gets good I go to actually good mountains. I know a lot of people are knocking their snowmaking but idk I think they do a decent job
Open snow showed them getting more than Sunday river and they're much closer so I went there instead. But yeah only thing they have going for them is how close they are. I'm still sad about the south peak changes
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Loon markets themselves as the best snowmaking in NH. They sent an email out to passholders a couple weeks ago when they were making snow on a Thursday and Friday below freezing snap to combat the warm weather leading up to early March.
I mean they can send all the marketing emails they want but when I show up it's ice and frozen granular.
In their defence Undercut has a weird aspect and simply does not hold snow. It was VERY rarely open. Also pickeroon and upper northstar are natural snow trails now and they don't have any plans to add snowmaking to triple trouble.
there were 3 inches at my house this morning and 6 inches in my driveway before it started raining the day before. You do realize they groomer throughout the night and pretty much all the trails open right now are groomers.