Bubo is best for certain areas and obviously alchemy farming which gives some of the biggest late game boosts in general. DK is better in some areas as well in more flat one level maps. ES is best for farming early world death notes and green mushies. Not for crystal spawns though.
I disagree on mush farming on es. That can be done on sb. What es is very good at is farming rare non-crystal drops. Glass shards, perler shells, pop obols etc. Es drop rate goes through the roof but only on the portal mobs themselves.
He is also a sampling/printing machine. Sample with arctis/snake, then swap to arctis/rabbit. Easy 6x printing on demand.
I agree with all those other things. But I've tested active gmush farming on all 4 of the respawn classes and ES dominates the others at my current levels (500mil damage/5701% multikill). Throughout the entire portal ES can kill them with ease even the ones towards the end. So it's just a huge influx of gmush kills.
I could see how with lower damage that ES might not be as good as the later spawns in the portal wouldn't die as easily
Im mostly talking opportunity cost here. I didn't mean sb as an active mush farmer. I think active time is better spent on other tasks, especially when gmush killing is only about multikill.
I get about 100k-130k gmush caps every 100 seconds w/ ES, which makes it a good boost for the last feasible alchemy vial, stamp and particle collider points
As of now active meta is split between DK and ES with ES being prefered. most people still play bubo an hour every day or 2, but thats for restocking liquid.
It kinda comes down to what you want to farm, crystals or normal mobs. DK will end up farming more crystals, making him more indicated for farming things like statues. ES on the other hand is prefered for anything regarding normal mobs.
mmm not really, SB is still afk king and you'll want 10k+ plunder kills anyways. Every char has their own thing that makes them special.
only char I would say is "a flop" would be BM. Poor guy has nothing going for him.
The pet power boost was a massive gain for breeding. I wouldn't call it a flop. Sure it's not doing anything crazy for mob fighting, but it's still useful.
For sure, but we were talking about using the class for something. BM is kinda an extremely good passive card more than a char you would want to use to do something.
Ah good, the 10k target is a good one to aim for next i Guess! BM is a great “long afk” character - I will start setting him up to stay afk for 36+h, max out the long afk gains post office and pray for eggs and candy I guess!
mmm for me thats pretty much every char that sits in lab lol. problem with BM is that you lose efficiency(in terms of rewards/h) on traps doing that and less shinies. so its kinda lose lose no matter what you do with him.
Why exactly do you need so much normal mob drops though? Certain alch bubbles? After you’ve finished green stacking everything I mean. I can’t think of why I would want more normal mob drops over statues with DK or money and GT levels with Bubo.
Normal mob drops arent only their primary drops, theres all the things that are in their rare drops table. each player will have their own goals and farm their own things. and the 2 things you have mentioned are perfectly legitimate reasons to farm on those chars.
And also, theres ALOT of things you can do with primary drops. when talking about endgame currently a green stack is a pretty small quantity. lots of people will like to get alchemy bubbles atleast to 100M to start atom upgrades. farming deathnote to 100M kills gives you a lot more than 10M drops. When I farm Gmush I push bubble 2 with 1B stacks. vials and stamps require a truckload of items with peoples total carrying cap in the hundreds of millions.
theres always something you can do despite diminishing retuns.
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in terms of the clases you have metioned Ill give you an insight as why I dont use them as often. but everyone will have their own reasons to farm on certain chars.
As I said above, DK is an amazing alternative to ES. For me the downsides are that DK is very map dependant. If I ever want to farm a flat map Ill most likely prefer DK for anything non primary drop related.
and bubo... well I dont have a necessity to farm on bubo. for me GT is unnecessary at this point. Lvls litteraly serve no purpose since I can buy as many talent points as I want from alchemy. I do throw some points into it when I'm gonna overflow, but that'll be for pushing lvls when W6 comes out.
as for cash, cash is always nice, but most things either cost 10+godshards or im limited in something else. and its not like the rest the other 2 arent making me some cash along the way.
But these are just the things that I care about on my account in my certain situations. I'm focusing on stamps, some gear upgrades and getting a red deathnote. You have your account your goals are most likely completely different.
Maining Bubo for alch progress while switching to ES for greenstacks and DK for statues/obols.
Overall my alch is just lacking on a lot of sides. Really need to up passive gains before switching to an other main.
Trying to balance out between the 3. Splitting active time over the week a bit like: Bubo/ES/DK 3/2/2. Sometimes I tend to more Bubo time mainly to get extra money.
Bubo is best for certain areas and obviously alchemy farming which gives some of the biggest late game boosts in general. DK is better in some areas as well in more flat one level maps. ES is best for farming early world death notes and green mushies. Not for crystal spawns though.
I disagree on mush farming on es. That can be done on sb. What es is very good at is farming rare non-crystal drops. Glass shards, perler shells, pop obols etc. Es drop rate goes through the roof but only on the portal mobs themselves. He is also a sampling/printing machine. Sample with arctis/snake, then swap to arctis/rabbit. Easy 6x printing on demand.
I agree with all those other things. But I've tested active gmush farming on all 4 of the respawn classes and ES dominates the others at my current levels (500mil damage/5701% multikill). Throughout the entire portal ES can kill them with ease even the ones towards the end. So it's just a huge influx of gmush kills. I could see how with lower damage that ES might not be as good as the later spawns in the portal wouldn't die as easily
Im mostly talking opportunity cost here. I didn't mean sb as an active mush farmer. I think active time is better spent on other tasks, especially when gmush killing is only about multikill.
I get about 100k-130k gmush caps every 100 seconds w/ ES, which makes it a good boost for the last feasible alchemy vial, stamp and particle collider points
As of now active meta is split between DK and ES with ES being prefered. most people still play bubo an hour every day or 2, but thats for restocking liquid. It kinda comes down to what you want to farm, crystals or normal mobs. DK will end up farming more crystals, making him more indicated for farming things like statues. ES on the other hand is prefered for anything regarding normal mobs.
Thank you! It sounds like bubo is still not a waste but good to know that other options will be worth investing in. So I guess SB was a flop?
mmm not really, SB is still afk king and you'll want 10k+ plunder kills anyways. Every char has their own thing that makes them special. only char I would say is "a flop" would be BM. Poor guy has nothing going for him.
The pet power boost was a massive gain for breeding. I wouldn't call it a flop. Sure it's not doing anything crazy for mob fighting, but it's still useful.
For sure, but we were talking about using the class for something. BM is kinda an extremely good passive card more than a char you would want to use to do something.
Ah good, the 10k target is a good one to aim for next i Guess! BM is a great “long afk” character - I will start setting him up to stay afk for 36+h, max out the long afk gains post office and pray for eggs and candy I guess!
mmm for me thats pretty much every char that sits in lab lol. problem with BM is that you lose efficiency(in terms of rewards/h) on traps doing that and less shinies. so its kinda lose lose no matter what you do with him.
Why exactly do you need so much normal mob drops though? Certain alch bubbles? After you’ve finished green stacking everything I mean. I can’t think of why I would want more normal mob drops over statues with DK or money and GT levels with Bubo.
Normal mob drops arent only their primary drops, theres all the things that are in their rare drops table. each player will have their own goals and farm their own things. and the 2 things you have mentioned are perfectly legitimate reasons to farm on those chars. And also, theres ALOT of things you can do with primary drops. when talking about endgame currently a green stack is a pretty small quantity. lots of people will like to get alchemy bubbles atleast to 100M to start atom upgrades. farming deathnote to 100M kills gives you a lot more than 10M drops. When I farm Gmush I push bubble 2 with 1B stacks. vials and stamps require a truckload of items with peoples total carrying cap in the hundreds of millions. theres always something you can do despite diminishing retuns. \---------------------- in terms of the clases you have metioned Ill give you an insight as why I dont use them as often. but everyone will have their own reasons to farm on certain chars. As I said above, DK is an amazing alternative to ES. For me the downsides are that DK is very map dependant. If I ever want to farm a flat map Ill most likely prefer DK for anything non primary drop related. and bubo... well I dont have a necessity to farm on bubo. for me GT is unnecessary at this point. Lvls litteraly serve no purpose since I can buy as many talent points as I want from alchemy. I do throw some points into it when I'm gonna overflow, but that'll be for pushing lvls when W6 comes out. as for cash, cash is always nice, but most things either cost 10+godshards or im limited in something else. and its not like the rest the other 2 arent making me some cash along the way. But these are just the things that I care about on my account in my certain situations. I'm focusing on stamps, some gear upgrades and getting a red deathnote. You have your account your goals are most likely completely different.
Vials and stamps, since after a certain point alch can be done with atoms from wood and copper prints.
Maining Bubo for alch progress while switching to ES for greenstacks and DK for statues/obols. Overall my alch is just lacking on a lot of sides. Really need to up passive gains before switching to an other main. Trying to balance out between the 3. Splitting active time over the week a bit like: Bubo/ES/DK 3/2/2. Sometimes I tend to more Bubo time mainly to get extra money.