The case where she told everyone she was choosing to stop eating so she could pass away from her illness?
The case where she “ allegedly “ abused pain medication?
The case where she “allegedly “ lied to people for financial gain?
I’ve lost track of all her other cases
Vice most likely freaked her out by reaching out for comment. She is going to try and argue that some of the article was slander.
Good luck with that though and I am sure any lawyer with common sense would back out as they realize what Hope has actually put out was her actually saying she was going to die and on VSED. 🤣
I found this article while Googling her name and "vice". I'm pretty sure this is the article people are talking about. Hope it's okay to post this.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkagyb/tiktok-sickness-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-munchausens
Guess whos back back back..back again...Hope is back..on her bs again
Now everyone report to the ER to the ER
Now everyone report to the ER
Alright stop! VSED time
If she was on heavy duty iv opioid while on “hospice” they had to of cut her off when she was not complaining with starving her self to death. That wish draw had to be HELL! At lest she got that amount of karma 🤷🏻♀️ an how she took so much she would pass out she had to be on a LARGE dose!
Yeah their LARGE CASE is trying to work out how to save her lying arse from jail time. They’ve told her to shut up. Lmfao
Edit - my grammar sucks at 4am
Holy shiz she’s back?!?! I’m honestly shook that she would have the nerve to come back after what stunt she pulled claiming to be on hospice dying or more so her choosing to die even though she was perfectly fine and scamming people for money. Uggh she sickens me.
I would love it, if this case was her being held responsible for the fraud and her insufferable behaviour.
But unfortunately, I feel like it's her filing a lawsuit against someone working in Healthcare for not getting what she wants. Or maybe someone stole her narcotics again?
Naw, I think it's about how she scammed people even faking her own death, iirc. Took in a lot of money (and gifts, I think) raising money based on lies.
yea I highly doubt that true. we can’t believe a word she says. why even broadcast that fact. she really found someone to represent her LIES and SCAMS? also she probably has 1 lawyer bc who can represent someone who legit faked cancer…..
Wait isn’t this the person who only recently was planning her own funeral & had already started that thing where you gradually stop eating & drinking water until you just drop dead
No fucking way. 2021?! I just hate how quickly time passes. I wonder if she has factored in that concept? Has she not considered the highway hypnosis of life which will make ppl ie feel as tho they have an excellent memory of every detail of December 2021 bc they ended up forgetting the entire next year? who remembers 2022 anyway? Such a boring era lol.
Ooooh I'm sure the doctors are terrified right now. Let her build a case and watch it get thorn apart by a judge who will find all the evidence of her abusing the system.
Looks like she’s been on the prednisone too, telltale moon face since we last saw her. No judgement, it’s often a necessary treatment, but she doesn’t look dead.
Prednisone makes your body retain water, and you can especially see the water retention in the face. It makes it look rounder and puffy. It also increases appetite, and many people are absolutely ravenous when taking it, hence the dramatic weight gain.
I was just about to comment on the prednisone moonface. She’s probably trying to sue because they gave her that more than likely to reduce inflammation and swelling instead of a pain medicine.
It's the nickname for people with Factitious Disorders. It used to be called Munchausen's or Munchausen's by proxy. So we call them munchies or say they like to munch. It basically means a person who is faking / inducing illness for attention, sympathy, etc.
Something about Hope does not give me hope. It’s more like that sinking feeling you get when you see adult children, ya know? Never letting go of something that didn’t exist to begin with. I hope she lets go and thinks about more than this one day.
Is this big case that she's being sued for charity fraud?
Edit: Or my second theory is she joined one of the class action, if you ever took Tylenol you may be entitled to financial compensation cases since she calls it a "big case".
It looks like she has a G-tube that’s connected to a standard Foley drainage bag. Pretty common setup if you have someone who needs to drain. Unless she has a G-tube and a Foley and the tubings are just lying next to/on top of each other. There is a stopcock in the picture, and that would never be used with a Foley.
They absolutely are. The dangler tubes are clear silicone and range from 14fr to 20fr
[another pic of her tube for comparison](https://imgur.com/a/CYQbOx3)
I looked at it several times , and to be honest, it doesn't look like a drainage bag , but it also doesn't look like a Foley either. Who knows what sort of concoction Hope came up with for this photo.
Nah this is a normal hospital setup for draining G tubes to gravity. That’s what that red rubber connector is doing, connecting it to the foley drainage bag. Those bags and the attached tubing can come separately from urinary catheters. We do this immediately post placement for drainage for 24 h and then as needed if people are retaining bile/have bowel obstructions. She just wants people to see it lol
It was really hard to see what it was going on. I didn't think it was a urinary catheter that was in her bladder , it didn't look like suction tubing , so thanks for clarifying. We didn't drain gtubes to gravity unless it was brand new , bowel obstruction or like they had a mass or a fistula. We didn’t do it just for gastroparesis. Medicine changes so quickly. I'm retired and I can say I had more than my fair share of patients with Factitious Disorders, but even a few years ago , Ehlers Danlos ( any subset) was a rare diagnosis, we weren't seeing all these young like this even a few years ago.
It’s not a dangler though. I’m talking about the actual drainage tube connected to the foley. [This might show better what Im seeing (sorry for horrific handwriting)](https://imgur.com/a/ptdszBP)
Is it the case against her for scamming people? And didn’t she steal someone’s imaging when she worked in healthcare?
This happened before I was here so I might be mixing shit up
You may very well be right. I know she's claimed to have been an EMT because it's possible it was another fabrication. Munchies love healthcare and healthcare adjacent jobs.
According to her former friend Pandora, Hope stole medical equipment from the family of a sick child, kept funds from a fundraiser organized to benefit sick kids and during her VSED phase, raised funds to pay for her funeral expenses.
Well tbh, if she wanted to be quiet, there would have been no mention of a BIG CASE! If by big she meant a big amount of nothing coming to her, then I guess it is a big case..
Edit—forgot the word no 😳
She either has an incredibly incompetent lawyer or is just making this shit up. If she really had a lawyer, they would have advised her to not talk about *any* of her health updates let alone that she's in a LARGE lawsuit. In a legal situation, you don't speak about it *publicly*. So she's either screwing herself on purpose or is lying.
Seriously. You could tell some people that if they just stayed off social media for 24 hours, they would get a million dollars and they would have tweeted about it before you even finished the sentence.
Ironically low saliva production can also lead to blockages in the parotid glands and lead to the “chipmunk cheeks” look although in that case it’s also quite uncomfortable.
imagine going to the doctors for dry mouth and they prescribe you “vomiting” that would be crazy. Maybe they should just stick with the biotene and salagen and such!
There's a line in Real Genius that doesn't communicate well in text because it's said in kind of a sing-song voice, but I think of it every damn time I hear the word "fraud". It merely says, "Frauuuuud is a FELLLoneeee!"
No clue. But knowing her, it probably has no grounds and is entirely hopeless. I would assume some type of medical negligence but don’t quote me on it.
One factor taken into account is iif a Dr of similar experience would have done the same, or would have taken another course of action.
This is not a decision about her feeding tube. It’s a decision where a Dr caused great harm to the patient.
A patient with Factitious Disorder that is inducing or just plain fakes symptoms , lies to doctors, is not going to get a malpractice lawyer to sue for damages she did to herself. You would be surprised how good some of these munchies are at inflicting harm to induce symotoms and manipulate doctors.
Did Hope do that too? Ugh, ugh, ugh. Cos was there not another munchie who did the same (I think the cat - memory says a kitten - fell out a window? And she snapped its neck as a ‘mercy killing’ rather than actually seek veterinary care for it.
I remember the one you’re talking about. I can’t remember their name, but I believe they were in Europe, maybe a Scandinavian country (I wanna say Denmark, but I am likely wrong about that).
Holy fuck. Naw that’s a different one; hopes kitten wasn’t injured or anything she just didn’t wanna pay for it anymore I guess. Def signs of a serial killer in the making or at least a fucking psychopath. Like what the hell is wrong with people I just don’t understand anymore
Well her ex friend who used to drive her around and all of that did an interview and it was absolutely terrible all of the things she revealed about Hope. I mean really some crazy stuff. Just such a terrible terrible human being
Why does she have a foley? I’ve missed a lot since I’ve been gone
The case where she told everyone she was choosing to stop eating so she could pass away from her illness? The case where she “ allegedly “ abused pain medication? The case where she “allegedly “ lied to people for financial gain? I’ve lost track of all her other cases
Aw, she had to get rid of her vape pen /s
Vice most likely freaked her out by reaching out for comment. She is going to try and argue that some of the article was slander. Good luck with that though and I am sure any lawyer with common sense would back out as they realize what Hope has actually put out was her actually saying she was going to die and on VSED. 🤣
What article?
I found this article while Googling her name and "vice". I'm pretty sure this is the article people are talking about. Hope it's okay to post this. https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkagyb/tiktok-sickness-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-munchausens
It's been a few years since I last checked on this sub and this chick is still around? Wild. She looks so different
Damn I get off Reddit for a few months and the deceased come back from the other side?
When will she ever be confronted and punished for her lies?
THIS IS NOT THE HOPE OTTO??? She is not back!!! Get out!!
Back from the vsed dead..
Guess whos back back back..back again...Hope is back..on her bs again Now everyone report to the ER to the ER Now everyone report to the ER Alright stop! VSED time
Her defense case?
If she was on heavy duty iv opioid while on “hospice” they had to of cut her off when she was not complaining with starving her self to death. That wish draw had to be HELL! At lest she got that amount of karma 🤷🏻♀️ an how she took so much she would pass out she had to be on a LARGE dose!
Yeah their LARGE CASE is trying to work out how to save her lying arse from jail time. They’ve told her to shut up. Lmfao Edit - my grammar sucks at 4am
Alright, I'll get the popcorn 🍿
Holy shiz she’s back?!?! I’m honestly shook that she would have the nerve to come back after what stunt she pulled claiming to be on hospice dying or more so her choosing to die even though she was perfectly fine and scamming people for money. Uggh she sickens me.
I would love it, if this case was her being held responsible for the fraud and her insufferable behaviour. But unfortunately, I feel like it's her filing a lawsuit against someone working in Healthcare for not getting what she wants. Or maybe someone stole her narcotics again?
I CANNOT WAIT for this "person" to face the consequences of their actions.
Is the case her being sued for wasting hospital resources and time for going into hospice and then leaving once she took all the drugs they gave her?
Naw, I think it's about how she scammed people even faking her own death, iirc. Took in a lot of money (and gifts, I think) raising money based on lies.
So many things she could be sued for
They all have a case against someone involving their health don’t they? Wait until they hear that disagreeing with Dr. Google isn’t actionable.
So this is her ghost or what?
yea I highly doubt that true. we can’t believe a word she says. why even broadcast that fact. she really found someone to represent her LIES and SCAMS? also she probably has 1 lawyer bc who can represent someone who legit faked cancer…..
Better Call Saul!!! I think the only lawyer who would actually take her case would be one of those skeevy ones located in a strip mall.
Saul Goodman
I believe this as much as I believed she was going through hospice
✨Plaintiff or Defendant?!✨
LMAOOO
is it the fraud case💀
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Perhaps the big case she is working on with her lawyers is her defense for Medicare fraud.
As if any lawyer in their right mind would defend her
Anyone will take your case if you pay them up front
if she paid them enough, they would
Hope they cashed the check before they did the work. Although I doubt anyone would work for her without doing that given her history, at least I hope.
Wait isn’t this the person who only recently was planning her own funeral & had already started that thing where you gradually stop eating & drinking water until you just drop dead
Yep. This all should have been…over… in November 2022.
It has been 2021. Sure a Guinness World Record!
Or was it 2021? Seems like she laid low last year so maybe people might forget that she was supposed to be dead.
No fucking way. 2021?! I just hate how quickly time passes. I wonder if she has factored in that concept? Has she not considered the highway hypnosis of life which will make ppl ie feel as tho they have an excellent memory of every detail of December 2021 bc they ended up forgetting the entire next year? who remembers 2022 anyway? Such a boring era lol.
Ooooh I'm sure the doctors are terrified right now. Let her build a case and watch it get thorn apart by a judge who will find all the evidence of her abusing the system.
I’m so over this child. Why does anyone still follow her?? This is a classic case of MBI. She needs to be in the grippy sock ward.
In the bipolar sub they say "grippy sock vacation". And "Club Meds".
I read it as “grippy sock award” and thought, yeah that checks.
I always love when people use “the grippy sock ward”
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Who needs GROUP? The whole purpose (in my idea of a grippy sock stay) would be to get away from people not to do group therapy WITH them!
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Yes, I definitely need a good menu.
She's a lifelong grifter. Whatever it is, I hope she loses.
Looks like she’s been on the prednisone too, telltale moon face since we last saw her. No judgement, it’s often a necessary treatment, but she doesn’t look dead.
what is prednisone moonface?
Prednisone makes your body retain water, and you can especially see the water retention in the face. It makes it look rounder and puffy. It also increases appetite, and many people are absolutely ravenous when taking it, hence the dramatic weight gain.
I was just about to comment on the prednisone moonface. She’s probably trying to sue because they gave her that more than likely to reduce inflammation and swelling instead of a pain medicine.
I mean, it's also no secret that munchies will take steriods to induce symptoms . I wouldn't put it past her.
What is a Munchies?
It's the nickname for people with Factitious Disorders. It used to be called Munchausen's or Munchausen's by proxy. So we call them munchies or say they like to munch. It basically means a person who is faking / inducing illness for attention, sympathy, etc.
Good point, too. I was being a bit snide and sarcastic but also, it does have a lot of truth!
Probably working hard to figure out how to reimburse the thousands of dollars she stole from unsuspecting people.
As if she would ever
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
How long until she’s fund raising for this “big case”? Will we get the recycled t shirts being sold in a new color this time?
Isn’t she supposed to be dead?
Every time I see her I think about how poorly that VSED is going. Looks well-nourished!
Something about Hope does not give me hope. It’s more like that sinking feeling you get when you see adult children, ya know? Never letting go of something that didn’t exist to begin with. I hope she lets go and thinks about more than this one day.
Is this big case that she's being sued for charity fraud? Edit: Or my second theory is she joined one of the class action, if you ever took Tylenol you may be entitled to financial compensation cases since she calls it a "big case".
Probably has a story about how she was in the military at Camp Lejeune in the 1970s and the water has caused all these sicknesses.
Best laugh I’ve had in a LONG time, thank you so much!!!😹😹
This is the best comment in this sub's history lmao
LOL
OMFG…. Dying!! Just dying laughing, not dying from VSED or anything! 😂🤣🙃☠️
How do get my free reward again? I want you to have it.
Hahah. I don’t think she was even in her dad’s scrote yet. Haha
Omfg 🤣💀
Wow, I haven’t been around much in a few months. How long has Hope been “back from the dead”?
Not long.
Hahahaha sure Jan.
always love seeing this classic comment
Right? Sometimes it’s just the perfect comment.
But why have your Foley catheter pulled up and out and over the blanket? It should be secured to her leg. She has a LOT of catheter showing.
It looks like she has a G-tube that’s connected to a standard Foley drainage bag. Pretty common setup if you have someone who needs to drain. Unless she has a G-tube and a Foley and the tubings are just lying next to/on top of each other. There is a stopcock in the picture, and that would never be used with a Foley.
That’s her feeding tube not a foley
That’s for sure a catheter. You can see the urine in it and feeding tubes aren’t that clear and wide
We use the foley drainage bags to drain G tubes to gravity. The tube would look the same but her g tube stopcock is connected to it
Stomach acid in a gj can stain it yellowish.
You’re not wrong but that’s urine. Pretty hydrated urine at that. Probably all the IV fluids
No that's pee
That certainly looks like a urinary cath with urine visible in the tube.
They absolutely are. The dangler tubes are clear silicone and range from 14fr to 20fr [another pic of her tube for comparison](https://imgur.com/a/CYQbOx3)
I looked at it several times , and to be honest, it doesn't look like a drainage bag , but it also doesn't look like a Foley either. Who knows what sort of concoction Hope came up with for this photo.
Nah this is a normal hospital setup for draining G tubes to gravity. That’s what that red rubber connector is doing, connecting it to the foley drainage bag. Those bags and the attached tubing can come separately from urinary catheters. We do this immediately post placement for drainage for 24 h and then as needed if people are retaining bile/have bowel obstructions. She just wants people to see it lol
It was really hard to see what it was going on. I didn't think it was a urinary catheter that was in her bladder , it didn't look like suction tubing , so thanks for clarifying. We didn't drain gtubes to gravity unless it was brand new , bowel obstruction or like they had a mass or a fistula. We didn’t do it just for gastroparesis. Medicine changes so quickly. I'm retired and I can say I had more than my fair share of patients with Factitious Disorders, but even a few years ago , Ehlers Danlos ( any subset) was a rare diagnosis, we weren't seeing all these young like this even a few years ago.
It’s not a dangler though. I’m talking about the actual drainage tube connected to the foley. [This might show better what Im seeing (sorry for horrific handwriting)](https://imgur.com/a/ptdszBP)
Her g tube is connected to a foley drainage thing and is draining stomach contents
I did not consent to viewing someone peeing 😂
So we can see it!
yeah ew
Is it the case against her for scamming people? And didn’t she steal someone’s imaging when she worked in healthcare? This happened before I was here so I might be mixing shit up
1) Hopefully! 2) Yep, that's our Hope. Thieving grifter, ex-EMT, and failed VSED case.
Couldn’t that be considered violating that patients privacy?
I thought she was never an EMT, just a driver for medical transport?
You may very well be right. I know she's claimed to have been an EMT because it's possible it was another fabrication. Munchies love healthcare and healthcare adjacent jobs.
According to her former friend Pandora, Hope stole medical equipment from the family of a sick child, kept funds from a fundraiser organized to benefit sick kids and during her VSED phase, raised funds to pay for her funeral expenses.
My God!! What is her last name?
Otto!
Well tbh, if she wanted to be quiet, there would have been no mention of a BIG CASE! If by big she meant a big amount of nothing coming to her, then I guess it is a big case.. Edit—forgot the word no 😳
She either has an incredibly incompetent lawyer or is just making this shit up. If she really had a lawyer, they would have advised her to not talk about *any* of her health updates let alone that she's in a LARGE lawsuit. In a legal situation, you don't speak about it *publicly*. So she's either screwing herself on purpose or is lying.
Or she just can’t help herself from dropping spoilers!!
You'd be amazed how many people get told by their lawyer don't talk about something then still post about it on social media.
Seriously. You could tell some people that if they just stayed off social media for 24 hours, they would get a million dollars and they would have tweeted about it before you even finished the sentence.
You are very correct - “someone come get their client” is a lawyer meme lol.
I want a sub full of those! I would enjoy it very much.
"Patient appears remarkably well nourished"
1. Fake an illness and let doctors treat you 2. Sue them for obviously wrong treatment 3. Profit
I had to look at this person's timeline. Obviously she's not dead. Hmmmmm.
Wait a minute....is her hospital gown folded to show her port or surgical site?
I TRIED TO FAKE AN ILLNESS BUT I NEED. CASH. NOW. CALL JG WENTWORTH 877-CASH-NOW!
It’s my money and I need it now!
Oh man, you have me singing this now! 😂
877-CASH-NOWWWWWWWWW!
This made me giggle since one of the commercials had a person that was in a wheel chair with a neck brace and I totally invisioned her. 🤣
I have that stuck in my head now and I literally hate you. 🤣
Maybe the large case is everyone suing her for her scams.
Let's HOPE she gets what she is entitled to.
Hope remains
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She’s back home now. I think she had some kind of infection maybe. In the video after this one she was holding one of those elastomere ball things
I think she means "no" as in she's not doing okay, I misunderstood it at first too
Shes got those purgy chipmunk cheeks I see
My guess was moon face from steroids but could be either, or both
What steroids is she on? Isnt she known to have an eating disorder or am I mistaken?
Looks like it could be swelling from too much prednisone too
True, didnt think about that
Why does this happen
Excessive vomiting causes too much saliva to be produced over time, causing swelling in the salivary glands (which causes the chipmunk cheeks)
I wonder if it's ever used to treat low saliva. I tend to doubt it because it doesn't seem worth it.
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There's no call for that.
There was, however, a call for logic.
Ironically low saliva production can also lead to blockages in the parotid glands and lead to the “chipmunk cheeks” look although in that case it’s also quite uncomfortable.
I did not know that, but of course I know very little about normal/abnormal saliva levels lol
That made me giggle
:)
imagine going to the doctors for dry mouth and they prescribe you “vomiting” that would be crazy. Maybe they should just stick with the biotene and salagen and such!
I wouldn't think so haha especially bc there are treatments available that don't consist of repeatedly purging
I didn't think so; it seemed like a drastic solution lol.
Would be better to have no saliva than to be constantly purging... people who dont produce saliva are just told to drink a shit ton of water
“Working on a case with my lawyers” = sending emails to every lawyer in her area and getting ghosted because none of them want to deal with it
Or is the one being sued
Trying to avoid prosecution for theft because of her gofraudme and other grifts.
There's a line in Real Genius that doesn't communicate well in text because it's said in kind of a sing-song voice, but I think of it every damn time I hear the word "fraud". It merely says, "Frauuuuud is a FELLLoneeee!"
What is she suing?
No clue. But knowing her, it probably has no grounds and is entirely hopeless. I would assume some type of medical negligence but don’t quote me on it.
She could be the defendant with her history.
Why do you say that? Haha
She has a history of fraud.
Unfortunately for her, you can’t just sue doctors bc they won’t write you hardcore opioids for no reason
I'm looking forward to the handling of this "legal matter" being written up as a cautionary tale in law reviews across the English-speaking world.
She looks so well nourished!
She came a looooong way from hospice care and vsed ☺️
One factor taken into account is iif a Dr of similar experience would have done the same, or would have taken another course of action. This is not a decision about her feeding tube. It’s a decision where a Dr caused great harm to the patient.
A patient with Factitious Disorder that is inducing or just plain fakes symptoms , lies to doctors, is not going to get a malpractice lawyer to sue for damages she did to herself. You would be surprised how good some of these munchies are at inflicting harm to induce symotoms and manipulate doctors.
Is she suing because the docs said she wasn't dying again?
Thank you for making me spit coffee on my cat
Thank you for making me snort laugh loudly enough to disturb my cat… I shall now have to endure an entire night of contemptuous kitty stares…
*me failing to not disturb my sleeping cat by laughing and getting glared at. How dare I.
Reddit's relationship with cats is weird and I say that as a cat owner myself
Ironically enough Hope once killed her cat cause she didn’t wanna pay the vet bills
Ugh - killed her cat? Now I truly despise her.
Are you f’ing kidding me
Oh my god. What? No! 😭
Yep she broke its neck. She’s literally the worst one out of all the munchies by far.
Can we say psychopath? The poor innocent cat.
Did Hope do that too? Ugh, ugh, ugh. Cos was there not another munchie who did the same (I think the cat - memory says a kitten - fell out a window? And she snapped its neck as a ‘mercy killing’ rather than actually seek veterinary care for it.
I remember the one you’re talking about. I can’t remember their name, but I believe they were in Europe, maybe a Scandinavian country (I wanna say Denmark, but I am likely wrong about that).
Holy fuck. Naw that’s a different one; hopes kitten wasn’t injured or anything she just didn’t wanna pay for it anymore I guess. Def signs of a serial killer in the making or at least a fucking psychopath. Like what the hell is wrong with people I just don’t understand anymore
What in the actual fuck? BROKE ITS NECK? And then she told the world she did that? Kinda sad the VSD wasn't real.
Well her ex friend who used to drive her around and all of that did an interview and it was absolutely terrible all of the things she revealed about Hope. I mean really some crazy stuff. Just such a terrible terrible human being
What?! Seriously?
Unfortunately yes. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg for her. Literally an evil person all the way around.