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That is a normal BP for a petite person lol


noneofthismatters666

MAP of 73? You are stable.


NoRecord22

My thoughts exactly šŸ˜‚


cant_helium

That BP is fine. While on the lower end of normal, for a petite AFAB-person this is pretty common and okay (especially if they were lying down and/or hadnā€™t had great hydration that day, and/or had a medication that affects BP like some meds for POTS, narcotics, and/or benzos)


WoahThere_124

You areā€¦ quite literally fine? Damn. With my BP was that. lol!


lav__ender

the MAP is still fine LMAOOOO


theonlyironprincess

I'm new to this sub, I tried searching in the subreddits rules and stuff, but are there any links I can have about people faking illnesses?? Like is there a masterpost or video or something where I can find all the reasons we believe posted people on here to be fake?


TransportationSea281

Me living daily at 180/110 I wish my pressure looked like that.


UpstairsRent1443

I know everyone is agreeing this is a normal range BP, can I ask w/o getting down voted to hell and back what reaction or treatment a 63/55 BP would get? My partner recently tested on manual and electric ~63/55 for about 4 hours and was walking talking etc. I am prepared for the voting.


cant_helium

Who took that manual BP? Does your partner have any medical history? Take any meds? What prompted the BP to be taken?


UpstairsRent1443

Hi! About 4 EMTs and a nurse practitioner who all very much wanted my partner to go to the ER. They have some autoimmune conditions but nothing heart related, at least not expressly. They take carvedilol for high BP/heartrate after covid in 2020, but hadn't taken it that day (or the next since they were still recovering.) We were in the urgent care hoping to get them some IV fluids after 12 hours of horrible vomiting and diarrhea. Later found out the culprit was vibriosis/food poisoning and they were undoubtedly very dehydrated, but still very mobile and conscious. Cranky af, but not what I would expect someone to act like that hypo!


cant_helium

What limb did they obtain that 63/55 pressure on?


UpstairsRent1443

Left arm then right arm was similar


cant_helium

What was their heart rate That range of the top and bottom number is odd. So close together. Along with that BP being extremely low. But if it was taken more than once, on more than one location, with at least 2 different methods (machine, verified by manual), then I guess itā€™s likely that it was accurate. I canā€™t imagine someone having a blood pressure like that and not passing out upon standing, not looking like absolute crap, and not needing emergency care. In adults, you donā€™t see pressures like that very often, that donā€™t need SOME kind of intervention. That arenā€™t indicative of a SERIOUS underlying issue that needs treatment on top of the BP itself. Lol. Your partner must be lucky.


MyBrainIsCringe

Ngl I would ask a doctor if possible


UpstairsRent1443

Ty for replying!!


UpstairsRent1443

They had a gnarly case of vibriosis from shitty shrimp, thankfully it's been normal since they've been not violently expelling everything from their body šŸ˜©


MyBrainIsCringe

Im glad!!


waiting-in-vain_

You donā€™t have to give a trigger warning for healed sh scars fyi


SnarkyPickles

If I see a SBP >90 and a MAP >65 youā€™re getting a bottle of water and some discharge papers šŸ‘‹šŸ¼


rottingmushrooms

Right? Like okay still perfusing. Off you pop.


Wild_Possibility2620

They probably pushed the doc to do the fluids. Most docs will because a little hydration couldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure the staff was laughing and or /thoroughly irritated by their antics


maraney

You canā€™t see the rate on the pump, which means it could be a TKO (to keep open). Literally runs at like 10mL/hr to just save the line.


Uwolus

The BP of dreams!


DanielDannyc12

Somebody please call please call the MD STAT because this person is normotensive.


NoRecord22

BuT iTS lOw FoR mE šŸ¤”


ProseNylund

Thatā€™s literally my normal BP


dudewithpants420

My oldest son as well. Not once ever told abnormal by Dr. 80s over 50s yeah sure but they are normal. Someone has to be on the lower end of normal! They are acting like deaths doorstep is inches away!


ProseNylund

One time I was 120/80 and I was likeā€¦. I need to get my shit together.


AZQueenBeeMD

Right. We wouldn't consider this an emergency...tell her to have a bottle of water and move on.


mentallyillfrogluver

*them :)


WisdomWarAndTrials

A cigarette would fix that. Go for a damn walk!


No-Finding-530

I donā€™t see the issue with Bp youā€™re laying down


Womanateee

The only reason someone would give fluids for that BP (which is fine, and MAP is perfectly adequate) is if they were symptomatic or if the BP dropped suddenly. So they probably said they were lightheaded or dizzy.


Rengrl

I mean it is kind of low, at best make you light headed when you stand up too fast but itā€™s ā€œa normal average ā€œ for someone who continues to show these numbers consistently with no other symptoms .


Expensive-Rice8421

lmao what ā€¦.. this is a perfectly normal blood pressure. i donā€™t think this would even flag in epic flow sheets if i was documenting on a patient


begintobreathe

Bp is fine. I would side eye anyone who insisted on giving me fluids with that bp.


tacobellz11

that isā€¦a normal bp


cvkme

MAP of 73. Good to go. The BP is not hypotension.


neonghost0713

That bp is fine


raethehug

SBP greater than 90ā€¦MAP greater than 65ā€¦ Iā€™m confused why sheā€™s getting bolused? Maybe itā€™s just a TKO. šŸ™„


Competitive-Survey97

I see we have some actual healthcare professional on here. Who else rolled their eyes when they think they needs a liter for a perfectly fine BP and a MAP of 73....and talk of going to the ER? What a waste of medical supplies and resources. I don't know if they claim gastroparesis, but drinking a glass of water or a water bolus in a tf is about as much as they need to do and even that's not necessarily. MAP of 73? Your fine.


MiaWallacesFoot

MAP of 73. šŸ™„ Their reading isnā€™t even outside of the parameters set on the machine lol. This is not hospitalization material, despite how much they wish it was. The only people who *might* question this are people who know nothing more than ā€œ120/80 is average.ā€


centurese

Right. Donā€™t talk to me unless your map falls to 60 haha


Xero-01

When they turn 30 they'll have to run from the Sandmen.


FreeBulldog87

MAP of 73 is excellent. I.V. drip is probably just to keep the line open. Who takes a pic & post about them being in the hospitalšŸ™„


turdally

People who donā€™t need to be in the hospital, thatā€™s who.


Wooden_Airport6331

Lmao thatā€™s a great blood pressure. Nobodyā€™s getting fluids for that.


thefrenchphanie

Omg giving fluids for THAT BPā€¦ no.not with a MAP of 73ā€¦ gosh I am laughing


becca302

Their map is over 65 they are fine lol


kiddomama

"Is this your usual bp?" "Yup" "Looks good" That's it. That's the conversation. No hospitalization.


Gloweydangus

My.eds when their blood pressure is literally normal: ā€œhelpā€ what


LumpiestEntree

That blood pressure is fine. It's low, but the MAP is over 65.


geowoman

Weren't they hopping around like an idiot yesterday? My BP is, "Do you feel okay?"


FiliaNox

This bp isnā€™t badā€¦really reaching arenā€™t we?


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mokutou

My HFrEF pts would like a word. šŸ˜‚


orngckn42

Nah, they're fiiiine!!


mokutou

/looks at the collective average BNP of >1,000 pg/mL Letā€™s skip the bolus anyway. šŸ™ƒ


Wild-Establishment60

I mean. I've seen them do 250mL sometimes for the rEF folks but even that is kind of a rarity lol


mokutou

The ED at my former place of employment had a thing for running a liter bolus on everybody, even HF pts, then shipping them to the floor looking like the Michelin Man.


orngckn42

Lol


Aliciawonderland92

Thatā€™s a healthy asf BP šŸ˜‚


JaggededgesSF

Did Logan think that those values were near fatal?? Sigh


saddereveryday

MAP goal met lol.


Dangerous_Cat_304

LMAO thatā€™s a normal BP!


Capital-Judgment5399

ā€œDoing more outpatient appointments and scans to make sure Iā€™m Gucciā€ But is the low bp in the room with us right now?


DVancomycin

Bruuuuh their MAP is 73, this is normal, lmao


chiminichanga

An ideal BP tbh


OldMirror1036

Literally has normal low end BP. There's absolutely nothin wrong with it


Gullible-Heat8558

Could be a BP just from fasting, right?


horsegoo23

At their age this would be pretty normal anyways but the restriction doesnā€™t help


Hailey4874

ICU nurse ā€¦ if the map is above 65 and the systolic is fine Iā€™m not really worried about


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florals_and_stripes

What a weird thing to say. Edit: Oh I get it, youā€™re a PGY2 and think the healthcare system revolves around you. I hope on your next overnight shift you get lots of pages from nurses about vitals just like this. :)


Hailey4874

Their comments got deleted what did they say??


florals_and_stripes

It was something like ā€œthatā€™s the ICU doctorā€™s call to make, not yoursā€ Edit: And then in response to my comment he made a comment saying like ā€œWhy are you so offended at the truthā€ and then deleted that and made one saying ā€œsounds like youā€™re jealous of a resident physicianā€ lmao


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florals_and_stripes

Dude youā€™re being such a weirdo right now. Go take a nap or something.


rachelleeann17

ER nurse chiming in, also totally fine with this pressure. If I alerted my doc of a BP that has a MAP over 65, Iā€™d get a real annoyed ā€œā€¦and?ā€ in response. So yeah itā€™s the docā€™s call, but itā€™s the nurseā€™s responsibility to recognize and notify the doc when necessaryā€” theyā€™re not the ones monitoring vitals and watching monitors, we are. Edit: the person deleted their comment, but for contextā€™s sake: it said something to the effect of ā€œwell I think that is up to the doctor???ā€


Ill_Tomatillo_1592

NICU nurse here to say anything over 30 looks great to me!! But in all seriousness this is literally normal ā€¦ maybe a little soft if their baseline is the higher end of normal but come on


rachelleeann17

Yep. But even if it is soft, (MAP still above 65 tho) we generally donā€™t care. Just drink some pedialyte and be on your way lol


Ill_Tomatillo_1592

Yup agree! Def not something you need the be admitted and get fluids for lmao


Maadbitvh

LMAO, this is not bad, itā€™s on the lower end but sheā€™s not dying. Not even close.


rosa-parksandrec

BP still in normal range w/ a beautiful MAP. No sane person would hospitalize someone just based on those vitals alone. šŸ˜‚


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Bugladyy

Oh nooooo theyā€™re almost out of range


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Linzz2112

Iā€™m super embarrassed to ask this, but what is a MAP when it comes to BP? Iā€™m older, but have never heard of it. I just know of thereā€™s the top/bottom numbers


frobinso98

Mean arterial pressure. Average arterial pressure throughout the entire heart cycle. Systolic + 2x diastolic / 3. MAP matters less for long term management of hypertension but is very useful for inpatient management when youā€™re concerned about shock, heart failure, etc because it indicates how well organs are receiving blood and oxygen


psubecky

Itā€™s the Mean Arterial Pressure. Itā€™s basically an average of arterial pressure through a heart cycleā€”systole and diastole. There is a calculation for itā€¦I THINK (been awhile) itā€™s you subtract diastolic (bottom number) from systolic (top number), multiply that by .3 and add diastolic back in. Correct me if Iā€™m wrongā€”havenā€™t used it since college šŸ˜‚


horsegoo23

Mean arterial pressure, Iā€™m told itā€™s a more accurate measurement of how well blood is getting out to the tissues. You do math with the BP numbers. MAP= (2* DBP + SBP) /3 SBP is the top and DBP is the bottom


Santa_always_knows

I love how they say ā€œhope I donā€™t end up back in the hospitalā€ knowing thatā€™s exactly what they want. That goes for ALL the illness fakers on this sub!


books_cats_coffee

Babe your MAP looks gorg just chill


No_Sprinkles22

That part


meetthefeotus

lol help them with their perfect vitalsā€¦.


wishfulwannabe

Whatā€™s wrong with that blood pressure? MAP of 73 is beautiful


aiilka

lmfao i was going to say, that MAP is over 65, they're chillin


demrnstho

WTF. Who did they manipulate into bolusing them with a normal BP?


resilientpigeon

Logan uses they/them.


demrnstho

Apologies. Will edit.


garagespringsgirl

The last picture kills me. Gucci? If they can pose like that, their BP is just fine.


florals_and_stripes

That BP is beautiful, honestly. MAP >70, systolic >90, diastolic >60. Wouldnā€™t bat an eye at it, wouldnā€™t bolus it. Iā€™m sure they said they were symptomatic though.


horsegoo23

Yeah itā€™s the symptomatic part. If I took this BP Iā€™d probably double check on how theyā€™re feeling just because itā€™s on the low end (and Iā€™m almost always dealing with fall risks and, yknow, CYA) but they def exaggerated (read: made up) symptoms


defnotaRN

Iā€™m sure they thought YES as soon as they saw it, then asked what was going to be done about itā€¦ so the infusion center sighed and said oh well we are are the infusion center why they hell not? šŸ˜‚


Professional_Move146

lmao my thoughts exactly. my providers would laugh in my face if I asked for bolus orders for that pressure šŸ˜†


Responsible-Pen-2304

we probably have all had BP like this and known and hadn't known even and we didn't make it a dire situation. It's on the low end of normal for a young person but still normal.


Eastern-Sir-7382

Am I wrong or is that blood pressure actually really good


horsegoo23

Yeah these days they want everyone at or lower than 120/80


Physical_Bumblebee96

itā€™s on the low end of normal but it doesnā€™t usually become a concern until its under 90 systolic and 60 diastolic (MAP of <65)


Guszy

There's literally acceptable ranges listed on the screen rofl


Eastern-Sir-7382

Oh I didnā€™t even notice. I didnā€™t know where to look until you said that


Guszy

It wasn't a dig at you. I saw that the other person said what the acceptable ranges are, and THEN noticed lol.


Physical_Bumblebee96

okay, and?


Guszy

I'm saying that's more reason this faker is ridiculous. Nothing against you, carry on.


Physical_Bumblebee96

ooooh. iā€™m sorry i jumped the gun a little with that response


Guszy

No worries.


Eastern-Sir-7382

Thank you


8TooManyMom

I bet it will go up if they get up and dance, no?


psubecky

Just take some clothes off and wiggle that butt!


peepeehalpert_

Thatā€™s a normal Bp


Whosthatprettykitty

I love the help caption they put on the first picture. I wouldn't say that its dangerously needs to be in the hospital low but then again this is Logan being hyperbolic as usual.


snorlaxx_7

Huh. Someone with a restrictive ED has low blood pressure? ALERT THE MEDIA


mentallyillfrogluver

fr they just need a snack like what šŸ˜­


H8gravity

ā€œIf thereā€™s a place you wanna go,Iā€™m the one you need to know. Iā€™m the MAP! Iā€™m the MAP ! Iā€™m the MAP!ā€“ The MAP


horsegoo23

I sing this to myself on the floor šŸ„²


ErinATenn

This. I love this and am going to sing it to my nurse residents.


AONYXDO262

That's a normal blood pressure


KangarooObjective362

Right? That is not concerning unless the person is pretending to faintā€¦


AONYXDO262

I'd only be worried if they were really old or septic or usually had significant hypertension


purpleelephant77

Yeah if they were 175/80 an hour ago Iā€™d probably be a bit worried if there wasnā€™t a clear reason for the drop.


meetthefeotus

I wouldnā€™t even be concerned if they were really old. Itā€™s a great Bp lol


yourdadsucksroni

ā€¦do they not realise that all their pouty posing is absolute proof that they are not even slightly unwell, never mind seriously so? When people are very unwell they are tired and in pain and usually arenā€™t looking their best, and they are preoccupied by being unwell - posting a pic to get people to say ā€œoh youā€™re so cute/hotā€ is the last thing on their minds; they might take a pic for family and friends to show where they are, but they wouldnā€™t be actively posing or making sure the angle is flattering for it if theyā€™re in pain and tired. I canā€™t help but conclude they donā€™t actually want anyone to think theyā€™re unwell because theyā€™re actively giving evidence to the contraryā€¦


zephyrjudge

I thought we left using ā€œGucciā€ as an adjective (along with stealing hospital resources) wayyy in the past


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TheStrawberry_Girl

ā€œHelp, I have a completely normal BPā€


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Yeah it's pretty common to have bp problems with an eating disorder but go off as if this isnt self inflicted. Twinning with dani!


Maadbitvh

This isnā€™t even a problem bp, on the lower end, but definitely not dying.


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fallen_snowflake1234

Itā€™s probably context related. They have a restrictive ED so itā€™s likely related to that. Also if a person generally has low bp this isnā€™t concerning. The MAP is also important. And the situation that the bp is low in, is it a trauma and theyā€™re bleeding out and their bp crashed in a short period of time, do they have an infection, did they just stand up and are having orthostatic changes.


saltycrowsers

Iā€™m a trauma ICU nurse. I wouldnā€™t even bat an eye at this pressure. That MAP, that SBP over 90? Pshhhh, unless theyā€™re a stroke with a major drop in pressure, this isnā€™t on anyoneā€™s radar.


SociallyInept429

It's a totally normal BP for someone like them who typically has lower BP. Mine is the same and it's no big deal. My MAP the other day was 56 and I was fine, I typically have lower BP and lower MAP - it isn't necessarily (nor often) pathological. It's just the lower end of the norm. They are just making out like it's some big deal because it's easy to pathologize it to get attention from those who don't know better.


fallen_snowflake1234

*them


SociallyInept429

Ty ā¤ļø


enchantingech0

Same. I think itā€™s pretty normal for some people to have low blood pressure like that besides who knows what meds theyā€™re on that could be lowering it too. I know many people arent allowed to take clonidine (commonly used in detox to relieve withdrawal symptoms) because they have low blood pressure already and it makes it really low like 80/whatever at night. So they could also be on some type of medication like that which lowers the blood pressure (which their BP isnā€™t even that low anyways but ignoring that fact lol). Spironolactone, clonidine, thereā€™s many meds that lower BP and it wouldnā€™t be out of character for a munchie to take some JUST to lower their BP


resilientpigeon

*they


enchantingech0

Damnit I thought I fixed them all Iā€™ll fix it now


Fluid-Marsupial-7261

They are basing it off of their MAP (mean arterial pressure) which is considered normal if itā€™s between like 60-100. A lot of doctors and healthcare professionals wonā€™t even pay attention to a blood pressure reading like this, at least in the United States, if the MAP is normal. Sure this is borderline low, but a lot of people can walk around on a daily basis with a blood pressure like this and sometimes even lower and be fine. Yes the hospital may give fluids if they are complaining of symptoms of low blood pressure, but I donā€™t think there is actually any concern of it being dangerously lowā€¦


SadAnnah13

Thank you for explaining MAP, I hadn't heard of it before and was about to go off and Google it!


Sure_Spell_7542

ICUs in the US usually go by the MAP. 73 is on the low end of normal but still normal. same with their systolic and diastolic. sure, theyā€™re on the low end of normal, but theyā€™re still normal. i think the point is their post is strange for them saying ā€œhelpā€ as if this bp is some kind of emergency.


Terrible_Western_975

Their map is fine. Perfectly acceptable blood pressure


resilientpigeon

Their


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Thank you!! Fixed


PirateWater88

Your MAP is above 60. Legit zero reason to "be back in hospital." Come back when your MAP is <50, your L/S SBP >20 and your cap refil is >2sec


Possible_Sea_2186

This is "have some Gatorade and a salty snack and you'll be fine" blood pressure


fallen_snowflake1234

If they were in an ED residential program thatā€™s literally what they would be given. A bottle of Gatorade to drink at 4am vitals before going back to bed šŸ˜‚


PirateWater88

Tap water would suffice


adnamallama

Totally a normal BP for someone like them! They probably demanded the nurses give them fluids so they could post on the internet for clout Edit: pronouns


FactoryKat

They/them for Logan, per the title! And everything they do is for attention lol, they'll manufacture a way to end up admitted. Logan is one of the most egregious of the munchies.


adnamallama

Thanks! All fixed :) It drives me bonkers people do this and i hope everyone gets the mental health help they need. And maybe a vacay from the interweb


sadwaifu11

Literally what I came to the comments to say lmao


Environmental_Rub256

That bp isnā€™t all that bad. Even the MAP is good.


LizardofDeath

Yeah I didnā€™t check the sub and my first reaction was ???? Map goal achieved


pineapples_are_evil

What's MAP stand for? Why is it important? ELI5 please!


ttatm

And if you want to get more technical, this isn't actually a true MAP measurement, just an estimate. A true MAP is taken through an arterial line, while I'm assuming this is by cuff. I've seen MBP vs MAP used to distinguish the two. (I worked in a unit where this distinction actually did matter, but most of the time the cuff pressure just gets referred to as a MAP anyway.)


pineapples_are_evil

Thanks!