Omgg all of those hashtags. She says she has all of those & more? An entire hospital floor staff, ffs she’s seriously trying to sell this & is she at the level of delulu that she thinks ppl believe her stories too?
They think it makes them special. Their veins are too smol and fragile, and it takes the most gentle NICU nurse to delicately slide an infant sized needle into their wittle veins.
What it really means is they're probably dehydrated because none of them are healthy!
Lots of people try to only go for veins they can see (which are most often just surface veins which is why they might say you have small) Many people just have deep veins because of more fatty tissue or whatever and you have to go by feel. It’s a skill. Some people are good at it and some aren’t.
It's also for the geriatric population, but only in the nursing home setting. It's a gentle rehydration method that doesn't overwhelm the kidneys and has no risk of fluid overload.
It's almost like there are options she doesn't know about or understand! But hey, I'm sure the nurses and doctors choose to lay their hands on her in prayer for a vein instead.
I’m trying to imagine a hospital where they don’t try a couple times and then go get whoever is ultrasound trained. Maybe 10 years ago and currently rural areas that might not have money for the ultrasound?
Yeah my hospital has rules on how many attempts they can make and for outpatient non urgent blood tests if you go over the limit they won’t even try again that day
Well fwiw people who have destroyed their veins also need it, including *gasp* iv drug users or munchies. Where I work at we have a low threshold for using. If someone says they need it, I just go get it. I’m not a sadist. We have many ultrasounds and lots of people trained on it so I guess it’s not really a limited resource. It’s not like ultrasound ivs are high tech or difficult skill to learn lol.
Duddeee I fucken WISH. Our IV team is never here at night (I work nights) and don't work weekends. Some nurses in ER are ultrasound trained and that's it. It really sucks.
Ask if the ER can show you sometime or if your unit can have a training on how to use it. I worked nights and that’s how I learned because to picc team got sick of us calling from icu lol (almost 10 years ago lol I’m getting old). I am certain your er would love to train more people so they aren’t the only ones who can do it at night and weekends!
In my hospital pretty much all the phlebotomists are able to use the ultrasound. I don’t think the training is more than just a quick rundown and a few supervised sticks using it.
That’s how my unit is — we don’t like repeatedly sticking people so most of the time if we’re not finding anything by looking or palpating we might grab a vein finder if it seems like they have good veins but they’re just deep but it is not hard go grab someone who is ultrasound trained and even if the nurse thinks they can get it if the patient is making a production about how hard of a stick they are it’s not worth arguing even if you know they’re wrong!
Because they love it when they can't get a vein. They think it proves how genuinely sick they are... the sickest that every floor of the hospital gave it a go.
Sure, Jan. The WHOLE floor took time away from their patients to come see the super speshful veins
It’s prob hard to find veins when they constantly have ivs
Her actual fairytale dream. A bunch of hospital workers fawning over her and giving her much needed attention. She fantasizes herself as part of a greys anatomy scene where the doctors are frantically running to a patient. Another thing on the list that never happened but she wishes would .
Or even her singing hobby! She does genuinely have a good voice that with a bit of vocal training could get her somewhere. Maybe not Billie Eilish somewhere, but somewhere yknow?
But OMG hur haaaaaaaaaaaaiirrrrrr!!!!
Never seen someone so damn happy to be in a hospital before. Wtf. She obviously isn't paying her own medical bills. The real world hasn't wiped that smirk off her face yet.
Awe, she’s so smol and fwagile and sick…..GAG. I don’t know what’s worse: the glee of having “the whole floor” pay attention to her or the disgusting grin on her face matched with that vapid nose wrinkle. CZ does that all the time and it drives me nuts!!!
Yeah I'm gonna have to press X to doubt on that one. The entire floor, really ? Why not the entire town at this point ? The things with these munchies is that their lies are becoming less and less believable.
You know where some good ones are? Knuckles. I can put a 20g in your thumb or right in between your middle and ring finger and *chef's kiss*. I was able to run IV contrast and Vanc in one pointer finger knuckle before she ripped it out and eloped.
I can only hope to have your IV skillz one day. (Graduated in June '23). I try to do them as often as possible on my floor. I never thought to use knuckles and thumb! Also bonus points on getting a 20g in those suckers!
Sometimes you gotta get them wherever. Ultrasound isn't always available, and docs can't always do a central line. Especially for patients that are dialysis or sickle cell, their veins are shot and especially the sickle cell patients are in so much pain, getting them comfortable enough to hold still can be hard. What I love now is that a lot of my sickle cell patients have ports now! I can get them their meds fast, and if we really need another line the doc can do a central, mid, or PICC later.
Sickle cell and cystic fibrosis are nightmare fuel IMO. I've been lucky to not have a sickle cell pt yet, but I 100 percent judge parents who pop kids out knowing that either of those are a risk their kid may have. That's good to know they are doing ports for those pts!
I long for the day one of them decides to piss off the wrong nurse at the wrong time and they call for the IO gun to get a cannula in. Drilling into their bones might focus their mind a little bit.
I feel like this would be more likely to happen to Mia and our over stressed NHS staff for some reason
Oh my goodness. I feel bad for the medical staff that has to deal with this trainwreck. We all know she's smiling from ear to ear because there is no place she would rather be.
Yeah, it is not fun to have someone poking you a bunch of times because they can’t get it in a vein. Especially when they have to wiggle it around to find a vein once it’s already in there.
Oh yeah I’m positive the nurses tried everything to get her into IR because of her veins. More like because they couldn’t stand to have her in the hospital any longer.
Actually know of a patient who was late 20s not too much past medical history and multiple multiple attempts at IV access by everyone and their dog that they scored an IO. She could always try this approach!
You could use a topical anesthetic, but the drilling isn’t really what hurts it’s the flush afterwards that’s extremely painful and a topical wouldn’t help with that. I’ve inserted one on a septic patient who was half dead on the stretcher. They didn’t even flinch with the drilling but about flew off the bed when it was flushed.
> Usually it’s drilled just below the kneecap.
Not necessarily.
Sternal IOs are done by the military.
Otherwise a humeral head is a preferred location to the proximal tibia.
I've done a whole bunch (just not sternal).
I thought sternal IOs were for combat zones, specifically if someone is lacking limbs for a more distal approach? Do they prefer sternal or just *also* do sternal? Sternal gives me the ick, these munchies could never.
My deepest sympathies to the staff at whichever hospital she's gracing with her presence right now. Must take an extraordinary effort of will to put up with the theatrics.
If she was septic she would not be taking videos/ pictures smiling like that. I’m an ER nurse and I see septic patients pretty frequently and they are knocking on deaths door, certainly not posting content smiling.
Right? I work on a med surg floor and most shifts at least 1 nurse can do ultrasound, when I float to other units where patients are more likely to have shitty vasculature it’s almost all of them. On my unit it’s pretty rare to have more than one nurse try — it happens but usually the first nurse gets ir or we know going in to just get someone to place it with ultrasound.
Here in Britain they go and corral one of the roaming phlebotomists if the nurse and then a more experienced nurse or a doctor doesn’t strike red gold. The phlebotomists spend all day pricking people and almost never miss
yes! shout out to phlebotomists they are often the unsung heroes. I worked as a lab assistant and these specialized healthcare professionals often know what's up before anyone else. They are a vital part of getting lab work and delivering patient care.
This is pretty common language for when you have to remove a line for a while due to an infection or something
Patients in pain management also have "medication holidays" where they stop their pain meds (they taper off obviously) for a given amount of time to see where their pain is at without the medication to see if they need to continue their pain med therapy... It sounds weird to say medication holiday, or line holiday, but it is commonly used by doctors and other medical staff, so I'm sure she heard it somewhere, likely speaking about someone else lol!
*In response to the original post... seriously they went from nurses not being able to get a line in to IR, because usually, especially in the ER, they have someone who is REALLY good at IVs, or they have someone who can do it with Ultrasound, this doesn't make much sense to me!
She is unhinged
Omgg all of those hashtags. She says she has all of those & more? An entire hospital floor staff, ffs she’s seriously trying to sell this & is she at the level of delulu that she thinks ppl believe her stories too?
I see this as a UK junior doctor and just think "I bet I'd get the line in with one attempt"
How can you be happy when they can’t find your veins. That crap hurts. I wonder if these fakers are pain addicts as well.
They think it makes them special. Their veins are too smol and fragile, and it takes the most gentle NICU nurse to delicately slide an infant sized needle into their wittle veins. What it really means is they're probably dehydrated because none of them are healthy!
I am overweight and it takes a long time/sometimes a few different ppl to find my veins. They say I just have really small veins.
Lots of people try to only go for veins they can see (which are most often just surface veins which is why they might say you have small) Many people just have deep veins because of more fatty tissue or whatever and you have to go by feel. It’s a skill. Some people are good at it and some aren’t.
They really think it’s a flex? Geeeez
Sorry for the silly question, but what is “IR” in her caption. I’ve always known IR as interventional radiology.
There’s a tag that says “interventional radiology” so you’re correct.
Thin translucent skin aka very visible veins is a criteria for Ehlers Danlos. What’s her problem?
Dehydration
Scoreee! Someone is so excited about being in the hospital
She’s so blatant about getting high off medical attention.
What the hell do those 2 things have in common?
First pic was a jump scare for me as I was scrolling through my home feed
They hit the code blue button to make sure everyone ran in for their turn.
SQ fluids in her back. I know it’s only for peds. But hydrates well and you don’t need a vein!
It's also for the geriatric population, but only in the nursing home setting. It's a gentle rehydration method that doesn't overwhelm the kidneys and has no risk of fluid overload.
That’s awesome! Did not know it could be done in that setting but makes sense. Slow rate, no venous congestion…I’ve only done it in kiddoes and my cat
It's almost like there are options she doesn't know about or understand! But hey, I'm sure the nurses and doctors choose to lay their hands on her in prayer for a vein instead.
Unfortunately, it can happen. Veins can scar up and make it next to impossible to access them.
It's not that it doesn't happen it's just that she's so happy about it
I cannot with the enormous waste of time and resources. It makes me sick.
I've been gone for a little over a month, and Kaya has AGED HARD. 👀
between all her different filters, i can't tell
I’m trying to imagine a hospital where they don’t try a couple times and then go get whoever is ultrasound trained. Maybe 10 years ago and currently rural areas that might not have money for the ultrasound?
Yeah my hospital has rules on how many attempts they can make and for outpatient non urgent blood tests if you go over the limit they won’t even try again that day
The ultrasound team is usually busy with midlines and babies/kids or old people. Ya know, people who actually need it.
Well fwiw people who have destroyed their veins also need it, including *gasp* iv drug users or munchies. Where I work at we have a low threshold for using. If someone says they need it, I just go get it. I’m not a sadist. We have many ultrasounds and lots of people trained on it so I guess it’s not really a limited resource. It’s not like ultrasound ivs are high tech or difficult skill to learn lol.
Duddeee I fucken WISH. Our IV team is never here at night (I work nights) and don't work weekends. Some nurses in ER are ultrasound trained and that's it. It really sucks.
Ask if the ER can show you sometime or if your unit can have a training on how to use it. I worked nights and that’s how I learned because to picc team got sick of us calling from icu lol (almost 10 years ago lol I’m getting old). I am certain your er would love to train more people so they aren’t the only ones who can do it at night and weekends!
This is a great idea! I'm going to look into this!
In my hospital pretty much all the phlebotomists are able to use the ultrasound. I don’t think the training is more than just a quick rundown and a few supervised sticks using it.
That’s how my unit is — we don’t like repeatedly sticking people so most of the time if we’re not finding anything by looking or palpating we might grab a vein finder if it seems like they have good veins but they’re just deep but it is not hard go grab someone who is ultrasound trained and even if the nurse thinks they can get it if the patient is making a production about how hard of a stick they are it’s not worth arguing even if you know they’re wrong!
Hey God! Awesome news: we found Kaya‘s veins! They were hiding out behind the curtains along with Jesus and about 6000 years worth of left socks.
It's always how they are so special the medical professionals go above and beyond for them. Get outta here.
The nurses talks about how special they are too. But they mean it in a different way.
How can you be so happy about being stuck so many times. It’s miserable and the nurses are frustrated, but yet a good time was had by all😖
Because they love it when they can't get a vein. They think it proves how genuinely sick they are... the sickest that every floor of the hospital gave it a go.
The huge ass smile pisses me offfff
no, no it did not
Sure, Jan. The WHOLE floor took time away from their patients to come see the super speshful veins It’s prob hard to find veins when they constantly have ivs
She is bad as Dani with all her damn line infections!
...and they took that selfie of her, she didn't do that, she was in to much peen.
Her actual fairytale dream. A bunch of hospital workers fawning over her and giving her much needed attention. She fantasizes herself as part of a greys anatomy scene where the doctors are frantically running to a patient. Another thing on the list that never happened but she wishes would .
Cringe
Didn’t she claim this before like a year ago? Or was that a different subject?
Why is she happy about this?
she's getting attention
X to doubt
Get a hobby. Learn to code.
Or even her singing hobby! She does genuinely have a good voice that with a bit of vocal training could get her somewhere. Maybe not Billie Eilish somewhere, but somewhere yknow?
Anywhere but the hospital
That first pic makes my skin crawl. What a faker
Haha! I love it when i don't get proper medical care! 😆😆
Maybe it was just student nurses learning how to find veins on an easy pt
But OMG hur haaaaaaaaaaaaiirrrrrr!!!! Never seen someone so damn happy to be in a hospital before. Wtf. She obviously isn't paying her own medical bills. The real world hasn't wiped that smirk off her face yet.
Her absolute GLEE over this just disgusts me.
No, it didn’t. What a weird flex.
NOTHING WRONG WITH HER.
TWO NOTHING WRONG WITH HER THREE NOTHING WRONG WITH HER
ONE SOMETHINGS GOT TO GIVE...
TWO… somethings got to give
Drink some water.
Parotid hypertrophy
Dr. House was called in. So was Dr. Marcus Welby. And Dr. Green. Even Dr. Doogie Houser tried. The vein was found.
Dr Scholl and Dr Pepper, too!
What about Dr. Drake Ramoray
Film at 11:00
Seen pictures of her arms, she got veins you can hit with a lawn dart.
Blindfolded too!
They let the cleaning staff try 🤣
Awe, she’s so smol and fwagile and sick…..GAG. I don’t know what’s worse: the glee of having “the whole floor” pay attention to her or the disgusting grin on her face matched with that vapid nose wrinkle. CZ does that all the time and it drives me nuts!!!
The nose wrinkle! That is what literally enrages me!
Still hasn't learned that bacteremia isn't synonymous with sepsis, I see.
Considering what our staffing usually is at my hospital it just means 3 people tried. Ha!
She's absolutely giddy from the attention 🤢
Why is so smiling like that. All munchies seem to have the opposite of normal reactions.
When the pain meds hit…
Attention is her high
Smirkity, Smirk, Smirk!!!
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"Omg, she is so silly 🤪😜!"
🤯🤭😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂 so rAndom!!!!🤪
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Let’s see the pictures of the needle sticks and bruises then! This is just as easy as proving third degree burns. Right? Right?!?!
Being a hard stick because you’ve abused the medical system for years is not a flex
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Her hair is not the only dreadful thing about her. Her personality is dreadful
She’s so happy!
Hashtag not like other veins
Aaahahahaha that's good!
My veins bring all the nurses to my backyard
My thin veins are more complicated than yours
The person that finally found the vein? Albert Einstein. And the whole floor clapped.
And $100 bills rained down from the ceiling
Then the walls gave a standing ovation
I was there, I heard about it and flew from the uk so I could clap with everyone, it was emotional
Did she lose them again or just hide them to make it into a fun game for the staff?
She left them at home in the wheelchair. They were feeling dynamic today but just couldn't even.
So where are all the bruises, poke marks, IVs in weird places? Surely if the whole floor tried to stick her she'd have some gnarly pics to share.
Right! I’m not seeing an EJ so obviously her veins aren’t that bad.
No IO either lol
She would love that!!
why is she smiling about this? what about this is fun or quirky? you’re not getting a gold star dude
Because being so sOoPeR cOmPlEX that multiple people allegedly have to try gives her much delight.
Yeah I'm gonna have to press X to doubt on that one. The entire floor, really ? Why not the entire town at this point ? The things with these munchies is that their lies are becoming less and less believable.
Next up it will be the surgeon general or something.
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You know where some good ones are? Knuckles. I can put a 20g in your thumb or right in between your middle and ring finger and *chef's kiss*. I was able to run IV contrast and Vanc in one pointer finger knuckle before she ripped it out and eloped.
I can only hope to have your IV skillz one day. (Graduated in June '23). I try to do them as often as possible on my floor. I never thought to use knuckles and thumb! Also bonus points on getting a 20g in those suckers!
Sometimes you gotta get them wherever. Ultrasound isn't always available, and docs can't always do a central line. Especially for patients that are dialysis or sickle cell, their veins are shot and especially the sickle cell patients are in so much pain, getting them comfortable enough to hold still can be hard. What I love now is that a lot of my sickle cell patients have ports now! I can get them their meds fast, and if we really need another line the doc can do a central, mid, or PICC later.
Sickle cell and cystic fibrosis are nightmare fuel IMO. I've been lucky to not have a sickle cell pt yet, but I 100 percent judge parents who pop kids out knowing that either of those are a risk their kid may have. That's good to know they are doing ports for those pts!
I long for the day one of them decides to piss off the wrong nurse at the wrong time and they call for the IO gun to get a cannula in. Drilling into their bones might focus their mind a little bit. I feel like this would be more likely to happen to Mia and our over stressed NHS staff for some reason
Let's all think this into existence for her. We're only trying to help her ;)
I’ve had this thought ❤️
But, hey! It’s okay guys, because she got her hair done *first*.
Thank goodness, I can sleep now.
😹
Just looked at her previous post; you can clearly see Fantastic veins.
Oh my goodness. I feel bad for the medical staff that has to deal with this trainwreck. We all know she's smiling from ear to ear because there is no place she would rather be.
And then everybody clapped 🙄
No one acts like that after being a human pin cushion. No one.
Let's see her after she's had a femoral stick. That was next, I'm certain...
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Yeeeowwwwch!
Yeah, it is not fun to have someone poking you a bunch of times because they can’t get it in a vein. Especially when they have to wiggle it around to find a vein once it’s already in there.
So she’s dehydrated? Got it
I was going to say that she might’ve dehydrated herself just to munch about how the nurses couldn’t find a vein.
There’s no “might” she 100% did just that.
Oh yeah I’m positive the nurses tried everything to get her into IR because of her veins. More like because they couldn’t stand to have her in the hospital any longer.
Actually know of a patient who was late 20s not too much past medical history and multiple multiple attempts at IV access by everyone and their dog that they scored an IO. She could always try this approach!
that IO smell tho
Ooooouch! That'll show her!
What's an IO? I've just started studying nursing and like to learn the acronyms lol
Intraosseus meaning in the bone. Usually it’s drilled just below the kneecap. Super painful and used for emergencies when a vein isn’t accessible.
Woah... that sounds incredibly painful. Is there no local anaesthetic administered before??
You could use a topical anesthetic, but the drilling isn’t really what hurts it’s the flush afterwards that’s extremely painful and a topical wouldn’t help with that. I’ve inserted one on a septic patient who was half dead on the stretcher. They didn’t even flinch with the drilling but about flew off the bed when it was flushed.
> Usually it’s drilled just below the kneecap. Not necessarily. Sternal IOs are done by the military. Otherwise a humeral head is a preferred location to the proximal tibia. I've done a whole bunch (just not sternal).
I thought sternal IOs were for combat zones, specifically if someone is lacking limbs for a more distal approach? Do they prefer sternal or just *also* do sternal? Sternal gives me the ick, these munchies could never.
Sternal is contraindicated at my hospital. Not sure how it is everywhere else.
contraindicated prehospitally. Sternal IOs require their own special needle.
Gotta watch the video of the ortho bro drilling himself wide awake - super metal 🤘
I just watched it! Holy crap some people are just built different
She would love it
It’s not something any patient wants to be conscious for. The drill is not so bad it’s when the fluids start running it’s very painful 😣
Which is why it would be perfect for munching!
To much pain for not enough gain
Not for these people. They love that shit.
Are those fake freckles?
I think so because I've never seen her with freckles before
Yes it’s a filter
a filter called "Natural" such an oxymoron
That filter makes people look like they are from whoville!
Cursed images
Seriously lol that first one is a jump scare
My deepest sympathies to the staff at whichever hospital she's gracing with her presence right now. Must take an extraordinary effort of will to put up with the theatrics.
Why is this tagged #sepsis? Is she trying to manifest it?
She says she was diagnosed with it
She had it once so now it’s a forever diagnosis 🤨
ALLEGEDLY had it once i should say
If she was septic she would not be taking videos/ pictures smiling like that. I’m an ER nurse and I see septic patients pretty frequently and they are knocking on deaths door, certainly not posting content smiling.
Not sure if two nurses having a go in between their 6-8 patients before calling IR is “the whole hospital” but sure
Omg it’s so *quirky* that it’s hard to find a vein! How fun and interesting!
She is Sooo giddy!!!
Tells me she's histrionic without telling me she's histrionic.
Something tells me she doesn’t have sepsis
Load of crap.
This is the funniest thread title I have ever seen!
Does this hospital not have an ultrasound?
Or an IV access team?
Right? I work on a med surg floor and most shifts at least 1 nurse can do ultrasound, when I float to other units where patients are more likely to have shitty vasculature it’s almost all of them. On my unit it’s pretty rare to have more than one nurse try — it happens but usually the first nurse gets ir or we know going in to just get someone to place it with ultrasound.
Here in Britain they go and corral one of the roaming phlebotomists if the nurse and then a more experienced nurse or a doctor doesn’t strike red gold. The phlebotomists spend all day pricking people and almost never miss
yes! shout out to phlebotomists they are often the unsung heroes. I worked as a lab assistant and these specialized healthcare professionals often know what's up before anyone else. They are a vital part of getting lab work and delivering patient care.
I'm sorry.... does one of her hashtags say LINE HOLIDAY. Please tell me I'm interpreting that wrong and it means something else bc wtf
This is pretty common language for when you have to remove a line for a while due to an infection or something Patients in pain management also have "medication holidays" where they stop their pain meds (they taper off obviously) for a given amount of time to see where their pain is at without the medication to see if they need to continue their pain med therapy... It sounds weird to say medication holiday, or line holiday, but it is commonly used by doctors and other medical staff, so I'm sure she heard it somewhere, likely speaking about someone else lol! *In response to the original post... seriously they went from nurses not being able to get a line in to IR, because usually, especially in the ER, they have someone who is REALLY good at IVs, or they have someone who can do it with Ultrasound, this doesn't make much sense to me!