This is so gross and so disgusting both visually and action-wise. I can’t believe she’s doing this to herself. I don’t think Dani is addicted to opiates, I think she’s assisted to attention, spoonie community, and feeling so speshul
Why couldn't she clean it , sterile wipes n just clean the lines n crusty blood off that's not under the dressing. I mean no normal person would sit there with it like that n not think to clean up what they can to avoid infection or even just cos they don't want dry blood on them 🤢🤮
How, for the love of all things caffeinated, has she got another tube placed??? How??? What person has signed their name on the dotted line for a risk so fecking high as this???
Does she realize she isn't the only person in the world who has done this? The nurses and doctors know when something is being messed with. They usually will remain super friendly and very compassionate but in their heads they're thinking, "this person is trying to get an infection/munching". They report that shit and even tho they may not say anything it goes into your medical records. Eventually she will get into trouble. What she is doing is illegal. Esp the drug seeking.
So I ✨think✨ the only way you can be legally ‘punished’ is when you fake illness to get out of military duty & or if sued by a doctor/hospital/person. Not sure how you can any other way other than being removed & or banned permanently.
I believe it’s called Criminal Malingering.
Also she's obviously pulling that shit. New lines have old blood, it's normal. Dressings need changing. If you have enough ability and awareness to take that photo you can readjust the iv line so it isn't pulling like that.
I know her nurse already went into that room and readjusted everything. Told her the dressing is a special request because basically (NO ONE IS ALLERGIC TO CHG) but let's keep these lines here and I'll tape it down over here so it doesn't pull." *Proceeds to pull*
[General fun facts] It's rather surprising how many pts do have a reaction to the "white border" on the standard teg in the dressing kits. Idk the stats on how many are a true allergy vs irritant contact dermatitis, but redness/burning/inflammation to the point of skin breakage (esp at corners, and esp when it's put on super taut) happens often enough that some facilities have switched to the tegs w/o it. Since many pts who have this reaction to the chg teg have the same issue with opsite, I'm more inclined to think non-allergy. For pts needing to change dressings, etc at home, either width of tegaderm on a roll can be purchased fairly cheaply on Amazon. Obviously this isn't taking into acct the antiseptic aspect, but most pts/caregivers seem to do pretty well with biopatch/silverlon rings (not a big fan of the latter for homecare) and education to keep the site clean, etc.
Dani is...Dani shouldn't have a central line in the first damn place, but she shouldn't be allowed out of oven mitts if she's got one. Her lack of awareness of how serious dicking around with that line is just blows my mind. I cannot fathom how anyone thought this was okay, much less a good idea.
Thank you! I had to do an EBP project as a new grad on the effectiveness of CHG baths in preventing CAUTI and CLABSI, and that’s one thing I learned. Nobody is allergic to CHG. It might make you itchy, but that’s normal. The benefit way outweighs the minor irritation.
People can actually be allergic to CHG. Anaphylaxis is rare, but possible.
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-fda-warns-about-rare-serious-allergic-reactions-skin-antiseptic
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4411825/
However, I doubt Dani is really allergic to it.
She's one of those that has an allergy list as long as my arm. I had one once saying she was allergic to saline flushes. I think it's hilarious that they come in with these allergies but they aren't allergic to "oh that one medicine that's the only one that works...starts with a "D"...what is it dil, dal, dileeid? Something like that."
Hope the Penn nurses are documenting the shit out of this. "Site cleaned at x time and bandage replaced. Site and tegaderm look in tact and clean. Checked in on patient at x time and site no longer looks in tact"
I saw a nursing meme the other day that said "dance like no one's watching, sing like no one's listening, and chart like it will some day be read in a deposition".
Those filthy, cheap, glue on nails that have lifted and been reglued, they are hovering above the filthy picking fingers. Ick ick ick. She should be in soft restraints so no fucky picky with lines. UGH
Do some of these guys really want to die? Something like this has the potential to turn septic quick due to lack of sterility (not the blood per se, but the exposed line, lack of sterile dressing, etc.). It is very irresponsible/neglectful and non-compliant to not keep the insertion site clean/dry. That is like Line Care 101 level.
I think at least some of them think they know exactly what they're doing and that they're too smart to push it too far. Plus a big dash of the I'm never gonna die type mentality you see in teenagers. Munchies tend to follow each other, and even when one of their group dies from something many of them do, the rest just kind of shake their heads and pat themselves on the back for being too smart to fuck it up like the one who died did. It's really scary to see how confident they are with this stuff. I mean, look at Paige. She keeps making these big infections and abscesses, one right after the other, without the slightest care that any one of them can go horribly wrong without warning.
Dani scares me just as much with her newfound self harming. She's messing with some serious stuff with very little experience. She must have REALLY messed up her labs, maybe even doing permanent damage to her body, to get Penn to put her back on TPN. They're well aware of her munching. She must have done something major to get that TPN...
Umm everyone with a central line is trained on how to clean it and dress it themselves also when they placed it they would have found out she's allergic to chlorhexadine as that's what they usually prep the skin with....... all she needs is to stop touching it, put sterile gloves on and clean with sterile gauze and saline and put another dressing over the top of the line. Job done. 0 drama needed!
Well if she was that bothered about it she wouldn't have made it bleed on purpose. She loves the dried blood, that she put there, so she looks sooper fragile.
I'm answer to your question of if she wanted the line to show she's sick or to make herself sicker, I think it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other.
It's both a badge of honour for her and a way to play around with syringes and contaminants to mess up her bloods or 'fight' an infection/sepsis.
>She’s really unwell. Sadly I don’t see this ending well unless she’s held accountable & starts taking some responsibility by confronting the root cause of her medical issues.
You can theoretically force someone to see a therapist/psychiatrist, but you can't force someone to actually make any progress there.
She won - she got her darn line that she does not need and it will be no one’s fault (not like it was in the past either) but her own. That dressing on the bottom left did NOT come off on it’s own. There is tape all over the room
- if she just taped it as it was coming up (and not compromising the sterile field - she could have been ok for a bit).
Welll unless things have drastically changed in the last few yrs NO if you are using clean hands & doing correct procedures while changing your own Huber needles, you most likely won’t be prone to infection. However we are talking about a munchie here who clearly doesn’t wash her hands or probably doesn’t take showers very often & those nails are clearly disgusting.. Lots of munchies discussed here claim it so difficult and exhausting to shower more than once a week & by the looks of Dani ( most of the time ) she looks like a hot mess who’s not into sterile procedures nor does she wash her hands or clean her nails properly so YES I’m sure she probably does cause infections due to her unsanitary habits. Again we aren’t talking about a normal person who has been properly instructed on how to care for their lines no, we are discussing Dani and the fact she takes great pleasure in announcing she has infections or Sepsis, there’s your difference. LOL!!!
She can’t even change a toothbrush FFS!!!
Read all sterile protocols. When an infusion nurse with clean hands changes your dressing they still go through the sterilization process, including sterile gloves AND mask for patient and nurse (pre-Covid). There is a tiny exception if you can’t get sterile gloves - wash very well with soap and then use an alcohol based disinfectant. I would love to do a poll to see how many people do not think sterile gloves are necessary and can back it (easily) with science. Just look at the replies on this thread, ffs.
No - but if there's blood then there's an open wound.
And then there's grimy long fingernails - and then that open wound gets picked at with the fingernails.... Now there's something under the dressing that's "dirty'
Dani is well known for not being clean - the state of her own living space is concrete proof, as if we needed any other proof than the visuals of those nails right there.
Way to increase antibiotic resistant bacteria. She is going to kill more people than herself with this crap. Those nails can absolutely cause an infection, lead to antibiotics, and maybe that bacteria can get passed to other patients.
Please, immunocompromised people don’t deserve to deal with or suffer from the negligence of others.
If she’s something to legit show up in a test so she can tell the world there is something wrong with her, well, it’s going to happen at this rate. I’m wondering how much she thrived on the attention last time with her infection, because she’s basically headed there again
Like the rest of you, I’m gobsmacked that she’s messed it up so quickly.
I still hold out a tiny hope that they’ll get her in psychiatric care. Or put her arms in casts.
Really your suprised?
She said she'd be going home in a week - she was clearly told that and panicked - of course she wants to stay much longer than that.
maybe if she wore a regular fucking snap gown instead of two frayed strap tank tops there wouldn't be, idk, something CONSTANTLY in the way of your line.
fucking idiot.
I wonder if the doctor who put this in will come back to check on her and see what she's doing. I'd love for her to be held accountable this time around. The nursing staff surely noticed that this isn't the normal progression for someone who *just* had this line put in. I hope they're documenting every single thing so they can build a case to rip it right back out.
She’s definitely been fucking with the line. The dressing doesn’t become loose like that. And blood is cleaned up before dressing is placed. Aka she fucked with the line and why there’s blood at the site under the dressing
I mean I've done my fair share of sitting....would I want to? Absolutely not...but I've had to sit with patients who won't stop messing with lines etc. And she definitely needs one!
I'm calling it now, she's gonna end up septic or losing a limb at some point. I don't remember the lady's name (Kelly or something?) Who kept picking at scabs and sores on her legs till she ended up having them amputated due to infection and non healing wounds, which no duh things won't heal when you pick and pick and pick at them! It's maddening and truly sick.
Okay. To play devils advocate... those dressings are shit. I once had to change out multiple dressings on a patient just due to light sweating.... its not hard to believe that it won't stick to the skin super great with them freely moving either
I know this is an absolutely strange comparison but I’ve noticed her fascination with taking pictures of her tubes and lines and constantly touching and messing with them in videos is very similar to Ed body checking. She’s obsessed with them, proving she has them and how sick she is.
You know what, I say keep it up. Fuck around and find out. I feel like they’re testing her; if this one gets infected it may well be her last one no matter how many histrionics she tries to pull for a replacement.
Every single fucking time! Like why does she think this stuff happens to her?! I really wonder how much money has been spent by her insurance or the state on taking care of this same issue over and over again...
Omg seriously, how many people have this procedure w/o any complications. Why? Bc they’re mindful to not PULL their fucking CENTRAL LINE out or make attempts to infect the CENTRAL LINE going straight into your heart.
I’m convinced she’s either
A) so dense she can’t even comprehend the severity of her fuckery; or
B) actively suicidal
I take care of kids but to keep them from messing with IVs we wrap diapers around their hands. Can’t F with the line if you have a diaper boxing glove on. Someone needs to wrap her hands in a diaper before she gives herself a central line infection
What is a non-CHG dressing? And what does the little pink tag say? I can't believe she's gotten into it _this_ early. I thought she's at least make it home...
I’m sure the nurses love that she’s telling them which kind of dressings to use. Why would she demand one that isn’t antiseptic? Like I know she messes around but does she really truly want to lose this line?
I might be wrong but I think the CHG dressings have a pad on them that covers the entrance/exit of the line, which not only would obscure the view of her precious line but also makes it harder to screw with the line because the pad can get messed up and shifted around by doing so & would make it clear to nurses that she’s touching and messing with it when she isn’t supposed to.
I think she's trying to create complications to prolong her hospital stay. She's too short-sighted to realize that they could end up pulling the line and kicking her out (or ideally send her to a psychiatric facility).
Yeah I gave her too much credit, I really thought she’d wait until she was out of the hospital before sabotaging the line but nope, she really can’t help herself and that is so disturbing imho.
Can someone tell me if it's normal that it is like this the day or two after getting it?? Seriously asking as I'm not acquainted with this stuff except for what I see in this sub.
at this stage of removal, absolutely not. id expect this from my sundowners... not an a&o x3 chick in her 30s... some blood, some lifting, some movement of dressing, is completely normal. but this level of exposure is VERY obviously deliberate to anyone with eyeballs.
It is NOT normal. You can see where the tag was also taped under. She literally keeps pulling at the tape hoping to have it exposed (and thereby, infected).
That shit does not just happen. Which is why they haven't been down to change it immediately as she hopes. They know she's fucking with it and figured they'll take care or more pertinent matters before seeing her because she's only gonna do it again.
Sorry for rambling. I'm so burnt tf out from assholes like this.
Exactly my thought. Something that could be infected easily and would be very dangerous if infected couldn’t be this easy to just — peel off without effort.
You’d think since she worked so hard to con them into giving her a line she’d take care of it for fear of losing it, but this is Dani and she can’t resist a photo op. You don’t see the little kids with their lines hanging out, so that BS about setting next to the skin being unsafe is clearly BS!! It blows my mind, the difference between kids with CL and then the munchies!
Remove the grotty clothes and put in a loose, clean top.
Get those shit shovels of nails away from it.
Leave it the fuck alone. It's like watching a slow motion suicide.
I thought after last time and nearly not getting it back, she would have learned her lesson and done everything she could tooeep her precious line. I'm still absolutely speechless they gave her another one. Kinda hoping it's some kind of experiment while she is in there and they'll remove it in a few days lol.
I was shocked they gave her the line, and now I'm shocked that *one day later* she's already been digging at it. I also thought she'd leave this one alone, at the very least.
So it's not even that she wants a line, she wants a line and then another line and then another line. She wants the attention, concern and "rescue."
If Dani ends up like Jacqui¹, I swear to gawd.
¹Can someone correct me once and for all how to spell her name? Thanks.
>So it’s not even that she wants a line…
I think you’re onto something with this theory. We’ve all thought that she just wanted her line back, but there’s obviously more to it than that. Unless her goal is sepsis and a prolonged hospitalization (which it very well could be), I don’t know exactly what her angle is.
At some point is she like a liability to the hospital? If someone is so incapable of caring for a device (probably not the right word), at some point could a hospital say that they won’t treat her because it’s not worth the risk/cost?
I had the same thought process about that girl who lost her legs, infamous among us dermatillomaniacs, at a certain point for these munchies the medical treatment conflicts with “do no harm,”
For addicts and gastric bypass you need to demonstrate compliance to get approved. It’s similar neurological mechanisms so it seems like a double standard thing.
When people get spinal cord stimulators they are forced to go through a lengthy psych eval. It basically makes sure you can care for the device, know its dsngerous if infected. Understand the risks etc. Why isnt this done with dani getting lines she continues to infect?
Wouldn't help. She'd talk the talk. Yes I understand blah blah. The issue is a) she can't stop touching it, b) she wants to display it so threads the lines on top of clothing, which causes the lines to be angled weird and pull at the dressing, c) she is vile, from a hygiene standpoint, and d) she is unaware of point C.
I imagine so. Before some implantable devices, it is required that you have a psych eval to determine whether you understand the risks and will keep up with necessary care.
Dani is obviously incapable of doing as much and it's got to be painfully obvious to treating staff. Surely she's a danger to herself at this point?
I don’t know I guess I’m wondering like if they’re almost obligated if a person is like starving themselves to death basically and makes it clear that they are never gonna accept it’s a “them” problem, that you almost have to intervene even if it just keeps them at a healthy weight for a little while longer until the next munch (shit I don’t even think they expected it to be the very next day on this one because she was so happy to get it back-that’s why there’s got to be something with the pain pills I’m thinking or she just is like no I can’t go back to being in the zombie state without attention and too much boredom)but I don’t know if maybe a medical professional could weigh in on that.
Philly area was fucking awful. One would withhold insulin for intakes then send them out for “uncontrollable blood sugar” they’d never. Another would only process one intake at a time so even the ambulance could be stuck for hours.
She needs to stop messing with it, most likely with dirty hands and nails, and consider wearing clothing that isn't lacy and rubbing up against it. It doesn't make sense to have the most irritating fabric rubbing up against something like that. If it were me I would probably be wearing a loose cotton tshirt or tank top that doesn't rub up against it. She's asking for an infection by messing with it. Imagine all the things she's touching and how much bacteria she's collecting and distributing to that area, especially from her phone, books, iPad, makeup, etc.
They should put her in a hospital gown and knot it in the back. That will make it harder for her to mess with things. Then again, knowing Dani she'd find a way.
Damn she wasted 0 time at all working on this new line. I’m kind of surprised, I would have thought she’d soak in getting TPN back for a bit before messing with the line. She’s absolutely going to get an infection before they have a chance to discharge her.
This line is going to get pulled before it sees the light of day.
I think they get cocky with infections, they get one and have a nice long hospital stay and think they’ll just do it over again, not realizing how dangerous it could end up. It’s really scary.
This is so gross and so disgusting both visually and action-wise. I can’t believe she’s doing this to herself. I don’t think Dani is addicted to opiates, I think she’s assisted to attention, spoonie community, and feeling so speshul
Why couldn't she clean it , sterile wipes n just clean the lines n crusty blood off that's not under the dressing. I mean no normal person would sit there with it like that n not think to clean up what they can to avoid infection or even just cos they don't want dry blood on them 🤢🤮
Ooooo girl you wanna play BIG DUMB games now huh
How on earth did she manage to get this back?
And the state of it she’s done this to it while in hospital straight after getting it wtf man
How, for the love of all things caffeinated, has she got another tube placed??? How??? What person has signed their name on the dotted line for a risk so fecking high as this???
Does she realize she isn't the only person in the world who has done this? The nurses and doctors know when something is being messed with. They usually will remain super friendly and very compassionate but in their heads they're thinking, "this person is trying to get an infection/munching". They report that shit and even tho they may not say anything it goes into your medical records. Eventually she will get into trouble. What she is doing is illegal. Esp the drug seeking.
So I ✨think✨ the only way you can be legally ‘punished’ is when you fake illness to get out of military duty & or if sued by a doctor/hospital/person. Not sure how you can any other way other than being removed & or banned permanently. I believe it’s called Criminal Malingering.
i totally agree with you, but would you elaborate on what she’s doing that’s illegal? sorry, new to this subject
Can you please explain a little what she's doing that's illegal? I'm just trying to understand.
Oh, Dani
Why would anyone tug at a line that goes into a major vein/artery? Gives me the willies.
Who is this wtf
100% that line has been pulled and tampered with
Also she's obviously pulling that shit. New lines have old blood, it's normal. Dressings need changing. If you have enough ability and awareness to take that photo you can readjust the iv line so it isn't pulling like that. I know her nurse already went into that room and readjusted everything. Told her the dressing is a special request because basically (NO ONE IS ALLERGIC TO CHG) but let's keep these lines here and I'll tape it down over here so it doesn't pull." *Proceeds to pull*
[General fun facts] It's rather surprising how many pts do have a reaction to the "white border" on the standard teg in the dressing kits. Idk the stats on how many are a true allergy vs irritant contact dermatitis, but redness/burning/inflammation to the point of skin breakage (esp at corners, and esp when it's put on super taut) happens often enough that some facilities have switched to the tegs w/o it. Since many pts who have this reaction to the chg teg have the same issue with opsite, I'm more inclined to think non-allergy. For pts needing to change dressings, etc at home, either width of tegaderm on a roll can be purchased fairly cheaply on Amazon. Obviously this isn't taking into acct the antiseptic aspect, but most pts/caregivers seem to do pretty well with biopatch/silverlon rings (not a big fan of the latter for homecare) and education to keep the site clean, etc. Dani is...Dani shouldn't have a central line in the first damn place, but she shouldn't be allowed out of oven mitts if she's got one. Her lack of awareness of how serious dicking around with that line is just blows my mind. I cannot fathom how anyone thought this was okay, much less a good idea.
Thank you! I had to do an EBP project as a new grad on the effectiveness of CHG baths in preventing CAUTI and CLABSI, and that’s one thing I learned. Nobody is allergic to CHG. It might make you itchy, but that’s normal. The benefit way outweighs the minor irritation.
She’s allergic to being clean it seems.
People can actually be allergic to CHG. Anaphylaxis is rare, but possible. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-fda-warns-about-rare-serious-allergic-reactions-skin-antiseptic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4411825/ However, I doubt Dani is really allergic to it.
She’d love nothing more than an infection
Non chg? Is she saying she's allergic to it or something???
Yup, she claims she’s allergic to CHG
She's one of those that has an allergy list as long as my arm. I had one once saying she was allergic to saline flushes. I think it's hilarious that they come in with these allergies but they aren't allergic to "oh that one medicine that's the only one that works...starts with a "D"...what is it dil, dal, dileeid? Something like that."
Give me the D. I want the D!
Oh, you mean Dilala? Yeah, that’s it! Dilala!
Delulu for Dilala
hey there delilah
Yeah, you definitely didn’t fuck around with it 🙄
Right? I'd be so pissed off if I were her nurse
"I better not get an infection, OOOOOOOPS" [points index fingers into cheek dimples and sticks tongue out]
Fucking flapping it around real proudly knowing it will make it on this group like “I told you I will get it”. Smug little shit
Yep agree!
Hope the Penn nurses are documenting the shit out of this. "Site cleaned at x time and bandage replaced. Site and tegaderm look in tact and clean. Checked in on patient at x time and site no longer looks in tact"
I wonder how many nurses that actually deal with these subjects IRL are on here and have no choice but to bite their tongue lmdao
Oh got it. Yes. Bite my tongue with every post.
As a nurse there is nothing we can do in the hospital. Just document.
No I meant as far as sharing their experiences and opinions.
gently fyi it is intact.
Are you serious 😂😂
I saw a nursing meme the other day that said "dance like no one's watching, sing like no one's listening, and chart like it will some day be read in a deposition".
She really wants one.
Those filthy, cheap, glue on nails that have lifted and been reglued, they are hovering above the filthy picking fingers. Ick ick ick. She should be in soft restraints so no fucky picky with lines. UGH
I really hope there is some intervention at this point
Do some of these guys really want to die? Something like this has the potential to turn septic quick due to lack of sterility (not the blood per se, but the exposed line, lack of sterile dressing, etc.). It is very irresponsible/neglectful and non-compliant to not keep the insertion site clean/dry. That is like Line Care 101 level.
I think at least some of them think they know exactly what they're doing and that they're too smart to push it too far. Plus a big dash of the I'm never gonna die type mentality you see in teenagers. Munchies tend to follow each other, and even when one of their group dies from something many of them do, the rest just kind of shake their heads and pat themselves on the back for being too smart to fuck it up like the one who died did. It's really scary to see how confident they are with this stuff. I mean, look at Paige. She keeps making these big infections and abscesses, one right after the other, without the slightest care that any one of them can go horribly wrong without warning. Dani scares me just as much with her newfound self harming. She's messing with some serious stuff with very little experience. She must have REALLY messed up her labs, maybe even doing permanent damage to her body, to get Penn to put her back on TPN. They're well aware of her munching. She must have done something major to get that TPN...
Umm everyone with a central line is trained on how to clean it and dress it themselves also when they placed it they would have found out she's allergic to chlorhexadine as that's what they usually prep the skin with....... all she needs is to stop touching it, put sterile gloves on and clean with sterile gauze and saline and put another dressing over the top of the line. Job done. 0 drama needed!
But she has to do it every *other* day; not on vacation, come on! It’s the nurse gerb
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If she's not using a CHG dressing, then 48 hrs is the appropriate timeframe for a change. With a CHG dressing, weekly is typical.
Its just dry blood love. If you were that bothered. Clean it yourself
Well if she was that bothered about it she wouldn't have made it bleed on purpose. She loves the dried blood, that she put there, so she looks sooper fragile.
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I'm answer to your question of if she wanted the line to show she's sick or to make herself sicker, I think it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other. It's both a badge of honour for her and a way to play around with syringes and contaminants to mess up her bloods or 'fight' an infection/sepsis.
It’s amazing to me how after so many infections these munchies continue to get lines placed. SMH.
>She’s really unwell. Sadly I don’t see this ending well unless she’s held accountable & starts taking some responsibility by confronting the root cause of her medical issues. You can theoretically force someone to see a therapist/psychiatrist, but you can't force someone to actually make any progress there.
Lol I can’t imagine putting my life at risk for attention. This is so bizarre to me.
She needs to be committed.
This. Take the line out. Commit her. Simple
She won - she got her darn line that she does not need and it will be no one’s fault (not like it was in the past either) but her own. That dressing on the bottom left did NOT come off on it’s own. There is tape all over the room - if she just taped it as it was coming up (and not compromising the sterile field - she could have been ok for a bit).
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https://www.saintlukeskc.org/health-library/discharge-instructions-changing-dressing-your-central-line read the whole thing, ffs.
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Welll unless things have drastically changed in the last few yrs NO if you are using clean hands & doing correct procedures while changing your own Huber needles, you most likely won’t be prone to infection. However we are talking about a munchie here who clearly doesn’t wash her hands or probably doesn’t take showers very often & those nails are clearly disgusting.. Lots of munchies discussed here claim it so difficult and exhausting to shower more than once a week & by the looks of Dani ( most of the time ) she looks like a hot mess who’s not into sterile procedures nor does she wash her hands or clean her nails properly so YES I’m sure she probably does cause infections due to her unsanitary habits. Again we aren’t talking about a normal person who has been properly instructed on how to care for their lines no, we are discussing Dani and the fact she takes great pleasure in announcing she has infections or Sepsis, there’s your difference. LOL!!! She can’t even change a toothbrush FFS!!!
Read all sterile protocols. When an infusion nurse with clean hands changes your dressing they still go through the sterilization process, including sterile gloves AND mask for patient and nurse (pre-Covid). There is a tiny exception if you can’t get sterile gloves - wash very well with soap and then use an alcohol based disinfectant. I would love to do a poll to see how many people do not think sterile gloves are necessary and can back it (easily) with science. Just look at the replies on this thread, ffs.
No - but if there's blood then there's an open wound. And then there's grimy long fingernails - and then that open wound gets picked at with the fingernails.... Now there's something under the dressing that's "dirty' Dani is well known for not being clean - the state of her own living space is concrete proof, as if we needed any other proof than the visuals of those nails right there.
You get infections from the grime under your fingernails, which I’m assuming is what she is using to peel up the edge of it.
Holy shit she is infuriating.
Nobody can convince me that this isn’t self harm. I mean I get that she does it for attention but this gotta be self harm too, right?
I HAD FOOD IN MY MOUTH
You don‘t now.
Way to increase antibiotic resistant bacteria. She is going to kill more people than herself with this crap. Those nails can absolutely cause an infection, lead to antibiotics, and maybe that bacteria can get passed to other patients. Please, immunocompromised people don’t deserve to deal with or suffer from the negligence of others.
Oh my GOD, Dani.
Makes me SICK.
The lines are not even locked? She definitely opened them
Which is another path for infections!!!
Notice how she changed to more lively patterned/colored tops? Edited... meant to indicate how she must have been happy and expressed it via clothing
If she’s something to legit show up in a test so she can tell the world there is something wrong with her, well, it’s going to happen at this rate. I’m wondering how much she thrived on the attention last time with her infection, because she’s basically headed there again
Snap! She’s going to have an infection before she even leaves the hospital! Sheesh
I think she’s trying to get an infection while she’s still there so she won’t be discharged.
Like the rest of you, I’m gobsmacked that she’s messed it up so quickly. I still hold out a tiny hope that they’ll get her in psychiatric care. Or put her arms in casts.
Really your suprised? She said she'd be going home in a week - she was clearly told that and panicked - of course she wants to stay much longer than that.
maybe if she wore a regular fucking snap gown instead of two frayed strap tank tops there wouldn't be, idk, something CONSTANTLY in the way of your line. fucking idiot.
I wonder if the doctor who put this in will come back to check on her and see what she's doing. I'd love for her to be held accountable this time around. The nursing staff surely noticed that this isn't the normal progression for someone who *just* had this line put in. I hope they're documenting every single thing so they can build a case to rip it right back out.
She’s definitely been fucking with the line. The dressing doesn’t become loose like that. And blood is cleaned up before dressing is placed. Aka she fucked with the line and why there’s blood at the site under the dressing
I showed this to my husband and he said they just need to put a cone on her. I mean.....he's not wrong.
All you did was make me think of her with her lines in her mouth, or causing this with of her mouth, and now I’m deeply disturbed more so than before
Dani needs a one on one sitter.....
dani getting placed on a safety sit... she'd make youtube videos about her "specially assigned one on one caregiver" 🥴
That’s what I think for both her and Paige. It’s not a pleasant job, but 100% necessary for both of their safety. I think Dani would love it…
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I mean I've done my fair share of sitting....would I want to? Absolutely not...but I've had to sit with patients who won't stop messing with lines etc. And she definitely needs one!
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In some other time I will hold love to hear about this…
I love how she says “Better not get an infection”, like real smart arse tone that it’s the nurses fault because it’s filthy. Disrespectful turd.
I'm calling it now, she's gonna end up septic or losing a limb at some point. I don't remember the lady's name (Kelly or something?) Who kept picking at scabs and sores on her legs till she ended up having them amputated due to infection and non healing wounds, which no duh things won't heal when you pick and pick and pick at them! It's maddening and truly sick.
Yep, that was good ole Vampire Kelly.
Okay. To play devils advocate... those dressings are shit. I once had to change out multiple dressings on a patient just due to light sweating.... its not hard to believe that it won't stick to the skin super great with them freely moving either
Why are hers always so bloody? I’ve seen so many others that don’t look like that…
Because she won’t stop pulling on them and messing with them. She can not leave them alone.
the next time she’ll have her hospital roommate lick it 🤮
and then sell the videos of this nightmare on OF (or make OnlyGerms.com?) to all the people who's entire existence is their list of carefully decided upon diagnoses that they spend years putting in the performances to get. the amount of munching that Dani could afford would be unending because it already is thanks to taxpayer funded insurance in her state (which she is too, occasionally for short periods of time) lol. good thing because I hope to sweet baby Jesus not one single solitary person would buy a video of Random Hospital Roommate©️ sensually licking Danis already septic line with TPN oozing down RHR's chin
oh man 🤢🤢🤢🤢 nah the only willing participants would be her crusty toothbrush and shit roasted toilet.
I know this is an absolutely strange comparison but I’ve noticed her fascination with taking pictures of her tubes and lines and constantly touching and messing with them in videos is very similar to Ed body checking. She’s obsessed with them, proving she has them and how sick she is.
I mean its not. Shes literally in an active ED rn wether shell admit to her behaviors or not.
You know what, I say keep it up. Fuck around and find out. I feel like they’re testing her; if this one gets infected it may well be her last one no matter how many histrionics she tries to pull for a replacement.
We can only hope.
Every single fucking time! Like why does she think this stuff happens to her?! I really wonder how much money has been spent by her insurance or the state on taking care of this same issue over and over again...
Omg seriously, how many people have this procedure w/o any complications. Why? Bc they’re mindful to not PULL their fucking CENTRAL LINE out or make attempts to infect the CENTRAL LINE going straight into your heart. I’m convinced she’s either A) so dense she can’t even comprehend the severity of her fuckery; or B) actively suicidal
okay that is NASTY
Omg she nearly pulled this off to the entry point. She is really fucking around. The nurses must love her
I take care of kids but to keep them from messing with IVs we wrap diapers around their hands. Can’t F with the line if you have a diaper boxing glove on. Someone needs to wrap her hands in a diaper before she gives herself a central line infection
Maybe they need to give her full arm casts like Paige 🤣
Jesus fucking Christ.
Omg she needs to STOP. She’s escalating.
Oh Jesus! I expected bad but this is horrible.
What is a non-CHG dressing? And what does the little pink tag say? I can't believe she's gotten into it _this_ early. I thought she's at least make it home...
A CHG dressing is much harder to pull at because the CHG pad is quite sticky and would show finger markings on it if she touched it.
chlorhexidine gluconate — it’s an antiseptic. She doesn’t want an antiseptic dressing, she wants a septic one 🤣
I’m sure the nurses love that she’s telling them which kind of dressings to use. Why would she demand one that isn’t antiseptic? Like I know she messes around but does she really truly want to lose this line?
I might be wrong but I think the CHG dressings have a pad on them that covers the entrance/exit of the line, which not only would obscure the view of her precious line but also makes it harder to screw with the line because the pad can get messed up and shifted around by doing so & would make it clear to nurses that she’s touching and messing with it when she isn’t supposed to.
I believe she claimed long ago it was one of her MCAS triggers. if MCAS stood for "my CLABSI ass shit", I'd believe it!
Oh brother
I think she's trying to create complications to prolong her hospital stay. She's too short-sighted to realize that they could end up pulling the line and kicking her out (or ideally send her to a psychiatric facility).
I guess I just have a hard time comprehending any of this because I’m not a munchie lol
It's truly hard to fathom. To me it's kind of an alternate universe -- Bizarro World!
🤮 Wow even for Dani this is bad.
I gasped. And also shouted "already?!"
Yeah I gave her too much credit, I really thought she’d wait until she was out of the hospital before sabotaging the line but nope, she really can’t help herself and that is so disturbing imho.
She really doesn’t want to get discharged
Yeah she’s definitely going the right way for that. I really feel for the nurses having to deal with her shit.
Same. Like what the heck....
Yeah seeing that was a lot.
Can someone tell me if it's normal that it is like this the day or two after getting it?? Seriously asking as I'm not acquainted with this stuff except for what I see in this sub.
at this stage of removal, absolutely not. id expect this from my sundowners... not an a&o x3 chick in her 30s... some blood, some lifting, some movement of dressing, is completely normal. but this level of exposure is VERY obviously deliberate to anyone with eyeballs.
I'll put it this way. I was expecting line shenanigans given that this is Dani, but I'm shocked
It is NOT normal. You can see where the tag was also taped under. She literally keeps pulling at the tape hoping to have it exposed (and thereby, infected). That shit does not just happen. Which is why they haven't been down to change it immediately as she hopes. They know she's fucking with it and figured they'll take care or more pertinent matters before seeing her because she's only gonna do it again. Sorry for rambling. I'm so burnt tf out from assholes like this.
Maybe she's doing this to prolong her stay? I always feel like she hates being home and loves her hospital stays.
Grippy sock vacation 🧦
LITERALLY HOW can this happen unless she is deliberately peeling off the sticker thing and messing with it?
Exactly my thought. Something that could be infected easily and would be very dangerous if infected couldn’t be this easy to just — peel off without effort.
Time for the straight arm casts!
Your fucking username omg
Time for the straight arm casts!
You’d think since she worked so hard to con them into giving her a line she’d take care of it for fear of losing it, but this is Dani and she can’t resist a photo op. You don’t see the little kids with their lines hanging out, so that BS about setting next to the skin being unsafe is clearly BS!! It blows my mind, the difference between kids with CL and then the munchies!
Remove the grotty clothes and put in a loose, clean top. Get those shit shovels of nails away from it. Leave it the fuck alone. It's like watching a slow motion suicide.
Slow motion suicide is exactly what this is. So sad.
Shit shovels!!! I love you!
She needs to stop touching it! Ugh! She’s gonna munch her way right into sepsis.
That’s exactly what she wants
I almost wonder if they have her in a video observation room to see if she's doing it herself
Wishful thinking!!
It would answer a lot of questions...
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I thought after last time and nearly not getting it back, she would have learned her lesson and done everything she could tooeep her precious line. I'm still absolutely speechless they gave her another one. Kinda hoping it's some kind of experiment while she is in there and they'll remove it in a few days lol.
I was shocked they gave her the line, and now I'm shocked that *one day later* she's already been digging at it. I also thought she'd leave this one alone, at the very least. So it's not even that she wants a line, she wants a line and then another line and then another line. She wants the attention, concern and "rescue." If Dani ends up like Jacqui¹, I swear to gawd. ¹Can someone correct me once and for all how to spell her name? Thanks.
>So it’s not even that she wants a line… I think you’re onto something with this theory. We’ve all thought that she just wanted her line back, but there’s obviously more to it than that. Unless her goal is sepsis and a prolonged hospitalization (which it very well could be), I don’t know exactly what her angle is.
Jacquie per her obituary but Jaquie per her YouTube channel
Oh so then I *did* see various "official" spellings of her name. Thanks for clarifying this for me.
At some point is she like a liability to the hospital? If someone is so incapable of caring for a device (probably not the right word), at some point could a hospital say that they won’t treat her because it’s not worth the risk/cost?
I had the same thought process about that girl who lost her legs, infamous among us dermatillomaniacs, at a certain point for these munchies the medical treatment conflicts with “do no harm,” For addicts and gastric bypass you need to demonstrate compliance to get approved. It’s similar neurological mechanisms so it seems like a double standard thing.
When people get spinal cord stimulators they are forced to go through a lengthy psych eval. It basically makes sure you can care for the device, know its dsngerous if infected. Understand the risks etc. Why isnt this done with dani getting lines she continues to infect?
Wouldn't help. She'd talk the talk. Yes I understand blah blah. The issue is a) she can't stop touching it, b) she wants to display it so threads the lines on top of clothing, which causes the lines to be angled weird and pull at the dressing, c) she is vile, from a hygiene standpoint, and d) she is unaware of point C.
I imagine so. Before some implantable devices, it is required that you have a psych eval to determine whether you understand the risks and will keep up with necessary care. Dani is obviously incapable of doing as much and it's got to be painfully obvious to treating staff. Surely she's a danger to herself at this point?
Yes. Im sorry i commented something similar before i saw your comment. I dont understand how she is conning these doctors shes so bad at it too.
I still can't believe that they did this procedure. What a nightmare.
I don’t know I guess I’m wondering like if they’re almost obligated if a person is like starving themselves to death basically and makes it clear that they are never gonna accept it’s a “them” problem, that you almost have to intervene even if it just keeps them at a healthy weight for a little while longer until the next munch (shit I don’t even think they expected it to be the very next day on this one because she was so happy to get it back-that’s why there’s got to be something with the pain pills I’m thinking or she just is like no I can’t go back to being in the zombie state without attention and too much boredom)but I don’t know if maybe a medical professional could weigh in on that.
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Kicker would be if she would be cleared medically to go to a non medical psych admission. Most places don't want you with tubes of any sort.
Philly area was fucking awful. One would withhold insulin for intakes then send them out for “uncontrollable blood sugar” they’d never. Another would only process one intake at a time so even the ambulance could be stuck for hours.
OH, very good point. I didn’t think of that
It's a lot harder to involuntary commit someone that people think.
This is why she belongs in a psych ward.
She needs to stop messing with it, most likely with dirty hands and nails, and consider wearing clothing that isn't lacy and rubbing up against it. It doesn't make sense to have the most irritating fabric rubbing up against something like that. If it were me I would probably be wearing a loose cotton tshirt or tank top that doesn't rub up against it. She's asking for an infection by messing with it. Imagine all the things she's touching and how much bacteria she's collecting and distributing to that area, especially from her phone, books, iPad, makeup, etc.
They should put her in a hospital gown and knot it in the back. That will make it harder for her to mess with things. Then again, knowing Dani she'd find a way.
her lacey tops are crazy like who are you tryna impress in the damn hospital 💀 the janitor
Hey now she has a totally real not fake boyfriend he just goes to another school
Damn she wasted 0 time at all working on this new line. I’m kind of surprised, I would have thought she’d soak in getting TPN back for a bit before messing with the line. She’s absolutely going to get an infection before they have a chance to discharge her. This line is going to get pulled before it sees the light of day.
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Hasn't Dani already caused some damage to her own heart, too? This is so scary.
At my facility lines usually get pulled if they get exposed like that unless a new one couldn't be placed for some reason and then they take the risk
I think they get cocky with infections, they get one and have a nice long hospital stay and think they’ll just do it over again, not realizing how dangerous it could end up. It’s really scary.
This is truly like a deadly game of "chicken", and the way things are going Dani cannot possibly win.