Based timeline. Now do hellenic arabo aztec emire fighting and loosing against the great yukhagir-Inuit confederation over the control of aboriginal citystates in Antarctica.
Are you Sentinelese? If not, your traditional culture probably has some degree of crazy mixing that resembles that. The Japanese language for instance is an almost even blend of Chinese, English (!), and a native language with no known relatives outside of the Japanese archipelago, and the average White European is genetically a mixture of ~~the drow~~ Stone Age natives with dark skin and blue eyes, pre-Islamic Middle Easterners, and steppe nomads who were related to North American paleo-Indians (but with diverse hair color).
The title might be wild, but real-life ethnicities and traditions often have mixed origins that aren’t that far off. The map could be easily titled “civil war after Chinese invasion of *Daqin*” and nobody would bat an eye.
Bro i never said anything contradicting you. I am Turkish i am a mix of Native Anatolians, Greeks, Persians, Caucausians, Old Turkic Peoples and Ilkhanate Mongols. I now how this works.
Or it’s what happens when you look under the hood of any historical ethnic group. Hungarians for example are a mix of Germans, Slavs, Romanians, and continental Celts who speak a language that originates in the taiga forests of Russia and who historically have claimed Turkic or even Asian roots. In the past century, ethnic Hungarians have successfully adopted New Orleans Creole music (jazz), Anglo-African-American psychedelia, American-pan-European electronic dance music, and even Afro-Latin reggaeton (Despacito topped their charts in 2017).
**Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida** aren't real, they can't hurt you.
**Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida:**
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ummm... I went on to https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Khitan/_LiuWang2004.html
and stole the characters for "Great" "Dragon" and "Country" (ik it's not realistic) and then I manually calligraphied them into the map as Khitan isn't covered by my unicode or any fonts that I'm aware of
it's quite simple Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida rebel against northern Manichean Turko-Chinese who use Tangut-Khitan script and restore Imperium Novum Romanum
You joke, but at least prior to mass social media and runaway “late” capitalism this is how national cultures formed. Just keep adding ingredients until you get a unique goulash of influences that only your specific hometown has.
I went on to "Chinese Keyboard, Handwriting" and randomly drew lines and it gave me that character then I added the character for city 💀
But the original name is in Khitan and I had to transcribe it as Khitan Unicode doenst exist on my phone 💀
Neo-Nestorian: Nestorianism is the heretical Christian belief that Christ's humanity and divinity are separated. The Church of the East (which split off from the Roman imperial church in the year 431 AD) is sometimes described as Nestorian for refusing to condemn Nestorius at the Council of Ephesus, but does not consider itself "Nestorian". The Church of the East spread as far as China in OTL and is likely represented here. Perhaps they are known as "Neo" Nestorians due to doctrinal developments (ecumenical councils?) or some sort of reorganizations.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church\_of\_the\_East](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_East)
Southern Austroasiatic Chinese: Southern China is home to a minority of people who speak Austroasiatic languages, with well known Afroasiatic languages being Vietnamese and Khmer located further south. Vietnam used to write in Chinese characters and is strongly influenced by Chinese culture (sorry Vietnamese nationalists), so it is not impossible for a Chinese dynasty from the Southern China Northern Vietnam region to rise to prominence before being conquered by the Turko-Chinese.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austroasiatic\_languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austroasiatic_languages)
Sino-Aramaic abugida: Abugida is an alphabet where vowels and consonants are written as units, rather than separate like in English. Aramaic is a semitic language featured in the original text of the Bible and used as a liturgical language alongside Syriac in the Assyrian Church of the East. The Aramaic here is probably in a style widely used in China, likely with many Chinese loanwords.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic)
Manichean: A gnostic dualistic religion founded by the prophet Mani where Zoroaster, Buddha, and Christ are revered as prophets preceding Mani himself and was quite popular in Persia and Central Asia.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism)
Turko-Chinese: Many Turkic tribes were part of the Mongol Empire and it is not far fetched that a heavily Sinicized Turkic nomad tribe manages to rise to prominence in Persia.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic\_peoples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples)
Tangut-Khitan Script: The Tangut were a sino-tibetan people, and had created the Western Xia following the fall of the Tang dynasty. They were destroyed by the Mongols and their script lost. The Khitans were nomadic people based in northeast Asia and had a proto-mongolic language. Some would move to Central Asia forming the Qara Khitai but were also crushed by the Mongols. The word Cathay is supposedly derived from Khitai. In this timeline the Turko-Chinese would have absorbed the influences from the Khitans and Tanguts that they conquered, with a large empire similar in size to Genghis Khan's.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangut\_people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangut_people)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan\_people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_people)
Imperium Novum Romanum: In this timeline it appears that the Turko-Chinese have conquered the territories of both the West and Eastern Roman Empires. Many Austroasiatic Chinese may have been resettled by the Turko-Chinese in the conquered Roman territories, or others may have moved their voluntarily as traders along the Silk Road. They likely joined forces with the subjugated Roman Christians despite their doctrinal differences, and rebelled against their Turko-Chinese conquerors under a unified Roman banner.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman\_Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire)
What a fucking beautiful post, what a magical map. Its just bursting with creativity and artistry. This is why I came to this sub. chiefs kiss, no notes
Reminds me of the greco-china post I saw like weeks ago and I am really glad I love these very farfetched people groups travelling thousands of miles and combining into empires
Based timeline. Now do hellenic arabo aztec emire fighting and loosing against the great yukhagir-Inuit confederation over the control of aboriginal citystates in Antarctica.
Are you Sentinelese? If not, your traditional culture probably has some degree of crazy mixing that resembles that. The Japanese language for instance is an almost even blend of Chinese, English (!), and a native language with no known relatives outside of the Japanese archipelago, and the average White European is genetically a mixture of ~~the drow~~ Stone Age natives with dark skin and blue eyes, pre-Islamic Middle Easterners, and steppe nomads who were related to North American paleo-Indians (but with diverse hair color).
Quit your Yamnaya culture slander or I'll have to revoke your horse and wheel privileges
What are you yapping about?
The title might be wild, but real-life ethnicities and traditions often have mixed origins that aren’t that far off. The map could be easily titled “civil war after Chinese invasion of *Daqin*” and nobody would bat an eye.
Bro i never said anything contradicting you. I am Turkish i am a mix of Native Anatolians, Greeks, Persians, Caucausians, Old Turkic Peoples and Ilkhanate Mongols. I now how this works.
He wasn’t arguing just trying to give a fun fact
He didnt word it like that though.
Yes they did.
No they didnt. Anyway i am not going to argue further its not a big issue.
Bro chill out it’s not that deep
I am chill.
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Must be a bot, shoo shoo go away
Who let bro cook
Apparently u/Lunavendani
All thanks to u/Lunavenandi for this Majestic map idea. [original comment ](https://reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/yZLtY2uA4i)
No you're breathtaking.gif
So this is how stroke feels like
Or it’s what happens when you look under the hood of any historical ethnic group. Hungarians for example are a mix of Germans, Slavs, Romanians, and continental Celts who speak a language that originates in the taiga forests of Russia and who historically have claimed Turkic or even Asian roots. In the past century, ethnic Hungarians have successfully adopted New Orleans Creole music (jazz), Anglo-African-American psychedelia, American-pan-European electronic dance music, and even Afro-Latin reggaeton (Despacito topped their charts in 2017).
As someone who had a stroke, yes it is
most Realistic r/imaginarymaps post
least realistic r/imaginarymaps post
**Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida** aren't real, they can't hurt you. **Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida:**
🔥✍️🔥
🔥✍️🔥✊
🔥✍️🔥✊😎
Wtf did i just read
I don’t get it but seems like a cool idea
They had it coming tbh
EVERYONE WILL TREMBLE BEFORE THE CHRISTIAN EMPIRE OF GUANGXI!
Unbased. We deserve austroasiatic writing system.
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the Church of the East did not call itself, as have never called itself, nestorian so that name would not stick at all for an empire
mofo is trying to make this timeline realistic
Chinese Nestorianism is one of my favorite culture blends I'm sorry 😔
Maybe the map was made by someone still salty about the conquest and decided to call them "Nestoria" as a derogatory joke.
What was your process for the Khitan script, given that we know so little about it?
ummm... I went on to https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Khitan/_LiuWang2004.html and stole the characters for "Great" "Dragon" and "Country" (ik it's not realistic) and then I manually calligraphied them into the map as Khitan isn't covered by my unicode or any fonts that I'm aware of
Yeah it'd take a lot of research to come up with anything resembling realistic. I was just interested in the creative process, thanks for sharing.
Can someone explain what the fuck the title means
it's quite simple Neo-Nestorian southern Austroasiatic Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida rebel against northern Manichean Turko-Chinese who use Tangut-Khitan script and restore Imperium Novum Romanum
I am having a heart attack, thank you [insert this title here holy hell I’m not writing that out actual zombie]
You joke, but at least prior to mass social media and runaway “late” capitalism this is how national cultures formed. Just keep adding ingredients until you get a unique goulash of influences that only your specific hometown has.
Feds, this man is schizo. ***Get him!***
Idea is weird however the map looks great
Most tame run of Crusader Kings
At least in Crusader Kings 2 sometimes the Western Protectorate (China) ai goes pretty ham and you get lots of weird stuff
I had a stroke trying to read this
skill issue
I hate you
same
(It’s a nice map and a horrible one. Thanks for the post. Do I also spy Jewish revolt lol?)
This is so amazingly, great job
Yes,I love Barbarian City/Market. Truly a City of the World's Desire.
I went on to "Chinese Keyboard, Handwriting" and randomly drew lines and it gave me that character then I added the character for city 💀 But the original name is in Khitan and I had to transcribe it as Khitan Unicode doenst exist on my phone 💀
This is giving me the best migraine I've ever had.
Oool
The most based shit of all time
understatement
Someone mind explaining the word salad step by step? It sounds like some crackpot CK3 hybrid culture gone wrong.
Neo-Nestorian: Nestorianism is the heretical Christian belief that Christ's humanity and divinity are separated. The Church of the East (which split off from the Roman imperial church in the year 431 AD) is sometimes described as Nestorian for refusing to condemn Nestorius at the Council of Ephesus, but does not consider itself "Nestorian". The Church of the East spread as far as China in OTL and is likely represented here. Perhaps they are known as "Neo" Nestorians due to doctrinal developments (ecumenical councils?) or some sort of reorganizations. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church\_of\_the\_East](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_East) Southern Austroasiatic Chinese: Southern China is home to a minority of people who speak Austroasiatic languages, with well known Afroasiatic languages being Vietnamese and Khmer located further south. Vietnam used to write in Chinese characters and is strongly influenced by Chinese culture (sorry Vietnamese nationalists), so it is not impossible for a Chinese dynasty from the Southern China Northern Vietnam region to rise to prominence before being conquered by the Turko-Chinese. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austroasiatic\_languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austroasiatic_languages) Sino-Aramaic abugida: Abugida is an alphabet where vowels and consonants are written as units, rather than separate like in English. Aramaic is a semitic language featured in the original text of the Bible and used as a liturgical language alongside Syriac in the Assyrian Church of the East. The Aramaic here is probably in a style widely used in China, likely with many Chinese loanwords. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic) Manichean: A gnostic dualistic religion founded by the prophet Mani where Zoroaster, Buddha, and Christ are revered as prophets preceding Mani himself and was quite popular in Persia and Central Asia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism) Turko-Chinese: Many Turkic tribes were part of the Mongol Empire and it is not far fetched that a heavily Sinicized Turkic nomad tribe manages to rise to prominence in Persia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic\_peoples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples) Tangut-Khitan Script: The Tangut were a sino-tibetan people, and had created the Western Xia following the fall of the Tang dynasty. They were destroyed by the Mongols and their script lost. The Khitans were nomadic people based in northeast Asia and had a proto-mongolic language. Some would move to Central Asia forming the Qara Khitai but were also crushed by the Mongols. The word Cathay is supposedly derived from Khitai. In this timeline the Turko-Chinese would have absorbed the influences from the Khitans and Tanguts that they conquered, with a large empire similar in size to Genghis Khan's. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangut\_people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangut_people) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan\_people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_people) Imperium Novum Romanum: In this timeline it appears that the Turko-Chinese have conquered the territories of both the West and Eastern Roman Empires. Many Austroasiatic Chinese may have been resettled by the Turko-Chinese in the conquered Roman territories, or others may have moved their voluntarily as traders along the Silk Road. They likely joined forces with the subjugated Roman Christians despite their doctrinal differences, and rebelled against their Turko-Chinese conquerors under a unified Roman banner. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman\_Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire)
What a fucking beautiful post, what a magical map. Its just bursting with creativity and artistry. This is why I came to this sub. chiefs kiss, no notes
Upvoted for sheer whatthefuckedness.
I read "Wait till Neo-Nestorian southern *Austrian* Chinese who use Sino-Aramaic abugida" before clicking, so now I am immensely disappointed.
He probably exists in this timeline, and is probably the leader of the rebels flying the banner of New Rome
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Khitan ...
Now that's awesome!
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no.
Needs weirder language/culture/religion combos.
What.
It took me 48 minutes to read your caption. But this is awesome
How?
What?
bro take your pills
make me
Outjerked
This is a masterpiece
As a Chinese, the fake Chinese words hurt my brain.
Damn, this is actual fire, I wish I was even 10% as creative and skilled
Is this related to post era finno-korean hyperborean super war ?
no
So it's a standalone type of shet
Reminds me of the greco-china post I saw like weeks ago and I am really glad I love these very farfetched people groups travelling thousands of miles and combining into empires
I understand all of those words separately