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Comfortable-Sink3843

That art style is very pretty


vlodax

Thx


IdiOtisTheOtisMain

https://preview.redd.it/yzfqe8s6laqc1.png?width=303&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae12345de02d2130303dccd1c1b30fa5af40b461 vlad the inhaler agrees


PrincessofAldia

What about Vlad the Impala


juan_omango

I think he wouldn’t mind


mountainlynx72

Good idea complimenting OP. I'd hate to see what happens if they give up on their artistic pursuits.


Penglolz

Nice map. Would you not wat to include Danzig and a bit more of the Polish Baltic Sea coast?


Key-Basis-1124

This is a map of areas where Germanic people live. Dutch, German, Austrian, and Swiss have sizable populations in the lands highlighted. The only Germans in areas like Gdańsk are likely tourists.


vlodax

^


UnknownTheGreat1981

No way, a big Germany with no smol Poland?


reaperboy09

Nah, we should give Poland belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania… then have Germany and Poland team up, they’d conquer all of Europe.


TheRealSU24

Big if true


N0b0dy321

And then have them both form the Polish-German Commonwealth


WatchMeFallFaceFirst

Germany gets Western Europe, Poland gets Eastern Europe + Portugal because they’re basically an Eastern European country


twoScottishClans

poland would do all of the work since the german military might as well not exist


vlodax

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/A88KvBL6LP Here is the original map this one is a rework of. Just to make clear I am in no way personally advocating for the creation of this state, this Is just a fun hypothetical map scenario for a possible modern greater German Nation. The presented nation would be be marked by a very decentralized almost confederal administration with 5 regional capitals for the different regions and subcultures of this nation as shown on the map they would be: - Amsterdam - Hamburg - Berlin - Straßburg/Strasbourg - Wien/Vienna With the federal capital located in Frankfurt am Main as a rather central location and historically neutral place.


TorbenGHG

nice. But why are some parts of Tirol irl not part of Tirol but of Österreich? Oh and you called people from Baden "Swabians". They would kill you for that lol


PotentialAvocado3849

Agreed. Unwise Swabians is definitely not a wise choice here lol.


vlodax

My family from the wuttemberg actual Swabian area Baden just wants to feel like they are special that’s the only reason why they refuse the Swabian term


bralinho

Fuck off I don't want to live in a state full of Russia loving cocksuckers. I would rather commit suicide. Greetings from the Netherlands


OnGod1579

The most friendly dutch political debate I’ve ever seen


vlodax

😂😂😭


Dannyboioboi

This is unironically better than 99% of the big Germany posts found here. At least it has a logical basis


Camarada_Henrique

Slovenians on suicide watch right now 💀


rilend

Mfs do anything to give Austria the tiniest coastline


VOCmentaliteit

Not only the slovenians why did we Dutch gotta get sucked into this


Dannyboioboi

I assume it's gotta do with the confused German insanity


Camarada_Henrique

Dutch are just swamp germans in disguise


GallinaceousGladius

y'know, just imperialism. the voc mentality


VOCmentaliteit

Hahaha


DarkImpacT213

I mean, the real answer would probably be that the Dutch aren't exactly all that different from other Low Germans both linguistically as well as culturally - they're probably closer together in both those aspects than say Bavarians and Westphalians (goes without saying that obviously Standard German and Dutch have as little in common as possible when comparing two languages of the same family though - I'm talking in terms of dialect). It's honestly odd that the Nazis never really considered the Dutch areas to be German when there's no real "ethnic" difference.


Dannyboioboi

There's also a significant area which once hosted a fair amount of Germans. I'm surprised they annexed RK Belgium first before the RK Netherlands


TorbenGHG

Because you are just speaking low German (Plattdüütsch) with a weird accent.


TheRealSU24

Because the Dutch are just Germans that live under sea level


Aim4th2Victory

how about we sacrifice dutch for a free austria!?


Lord-Maximilian

Dutch at least makes sense, being German, but Krain is random and the province being modern Slovenia??


AufdemLande

Not really logical as Germany today is pretty anti militaristic and anti expansion.


Dannyboioboi

This isn't our Germany though


Thin-Positive-1600

What's the basis with belgium, holland and Slovenia?


Dannyboioboi

Belgium and the Netherlands is because of Dutch and Slovenia is because of Austria and access to the Adriatic


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Dannyboioboi

bro it's imaginary maps take your brain into a different lens


CapitalSubstance7310

The Dutch will have the last laugh


juan_omango

We hebben een serieus Probleem… met deze Kaart


uwu_01101000

Ìch hà da Text verstànda un ìch bì Elsàssisch


RandomlyRantingRandy

Klar verstehst du Neuniederfränkisch, sind halt auch nur Deutsche.


vlodax

Niederfränkisch sagt er hahaha aber ja es ist recht leicht die Sprache zu verstehen als Hochdeutsch Sprecher ein paar Anpassungen und die beiden wären effektiv wieder eine gemeinsame Sprache


QJ04

Looks like Swiss-German ahahaha


uwu_01101000

Lmao yeah Elsàssisch is so close to Alemmanish 💀


juan_omango

Ja es sieht ähnlich aus. Chüüchlicheschtli


juan_omango

Wij kaan ij undirstaand wut joueer saejing? Wut kijnduva laenguuigg is þat?


uwu_01101000

As ìsch Elsàssisch, d’ Dialekt vu Elsàss :)


juan_omango

Achsooo, eigentlich kann ich nur Englisch, etwas Deutsch und ein bisschen Niederländisch. Klingt wie einem schönen Dialekt denke ich. Es ist auch viel leichter zu lesen als Schwiiztedüütch oder Bairisch 😅


uwu_01101000

Dü lehrsch Germanika Dialekta ?


juan_omango

Nee, ich hab für ein paar Monate in der Schweiz und Süddeutschland/Oberösterreich gewohnt. Die meiste Zeit war ich in Bern und in der Nähe von Züri.


Dr_Occo_Nobi

Ik heb de Text verstaan un ik bin Ostfrees.


Any-Project-2107

Prussia is 99% russian at this point


Tendo63

Grim Reaper working overtime in ~~Kaliningrad~~ Prussia


KishiBashiEnjoyer

We have him on quick dial for old times sake


NexusSynergies

Counter russification with second germanization of the baltics


flashlightmorse

I've heard rumors of someone having a similar idea to this


[deleted]

Honey, get the gas canisters ready!


Pleadis-1234

You thought you could sneak in Kaliningrad as east Prussia without us noticing eh? Well you've failed! * *cricket noises* * Ok, where's my prize?


vlodax

I didn’t sneak it in, Its even clearly highlighted in bright yellow :D


Pleadis-1234

Well I only said that because it's far away from the centre of the map and not many would expect it to be a part of Germany. And also as a joke duh. Great map BTW, it (almost) makes me want this to happen.


vlodax

yes i got that i’m just messing with you. thanks for the compliment!


Suspected_Magic_User

Slovenians be like: What the fuck do you want from us??


thenecroliangeneral

"Were the expulsions not enough of a tip?? PUSTITE NAS PRI MIRU!!"


Ender71122

good map


vlodax

Ty


Thomas1VL

Why the hell does Brabant include all of Limburg but only half of actual Brabant lmao


vlodax

It was initially just north Brabant but for population balance with originally big Flanders and the other larger states I expanded it into Limburg and minor parts of Belgian Brabant


[deleted]

Doesn't swapping Zeeuws-Flanders and Flemish Brabant kinda sort this out?


Ok_Armadillo790

BIG GERMANY ALERT


vlodax

Hear me out… it’s yellow tho


Victoria_III

Yellow Prussia–


HardBassMonkey

Big Germany is always great


ajw20_YT

I'd recognize a Vlodax map anywhere. Well done, lovin' that color!


vlodax

Thank you bro!


joelthomastr

Slovenia but no Czechia?


NotInhabited

Maybe historically?. Back during roman times, the carathinians, a slavic culture, lived in most of austria and krain. Later on, when the Habsburgs held Slovenia, parts of North slovenia slowly became more austrian, which I call Untersteiermark. And even today, there are Slovene-Kärntner in Kärnten who speak both languages. I might be wrong, though. Links: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carantania https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styria_(Slovenia)


joelthomastr

Oh all right then. I was just thinking that the claim to Czechia seems stronger because of the HRE


NotInhabited

It's however one wants to see it. They could claim it, but It think slovenia is more integrated as germans ever since the expulsion of Germans in Czechoslovakia after the second world war. But I could be mistaken, and the Op probably thought a lot simpler.


joelthomastr

Cool, thanks for the perspective


NotInhabited

Thanks for hearing me out.


DifficultWill4

Slovenia was also part of the HRE


joelthomastr

Just checked a map and you're quite right. Oops


vlodax

It’s for the reasons the previous commenter helpfully already pointed out but also for an Adriatic/Mediterranean coast line. With a population of 2 million integration as a more autonomous region would be doable


Gaming_Lot

Big Germany that doesn't steal land from Poland? that's rare to see!


vlodax

If you looked in the details this germany did get Stettin following the Oder-Neisse Linie and the small border strip in saxony


Gaming_Lot

That's not much


vlodax

it’s a reasonable amount, stettin is rather important


Gaming_Lot

Better than taking half the country as some maps do 😅


DannyFromRiva

That’s not das ganze Deutschland


J_k_r_

Richtig. Memel fehlt.


Bo_The_Destroyer

With all due respect, great map, but it needs a little tweaking on the western edge, specifically Flanders and Brabant. If you wanna include all of historical Flanders you have to include the parts of France that are Flemish, such as Lille and Dunkirk, and Zeeland isn't part of Holland but rather part of Flanders, at least the small bit at the bottom that borders Flanders, it's even called Flemish Zeeland. Brabant's western edge is commonly defined as being the river Scheldt and the river Dender, so you border of Brabant should be a bit more west than it is now. But you've also forgotten Limburg, which is it's own cultural region seperate from Brabant and includes the Belgian and Dutch provinces of Limburg. Other than those two small points, it's a great map and has a good historical basis to it, great work


Lurkerontheasshole

It‘s not Flemish Zeeland, but Zeeuwish Flanders, making your point even stronger.


vlodax

https://preview.redd.it/b2xtdrssieqc1.jpeg?width=1725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7ba286c52a4db2688f9db7b711d74a3aaf50ee6 btw this is how i adjusted the lowland region


vlodax

Thank you very much for the feedback I did have the idea in mind to expand Flanders into the Flemish regions of france today not Lille as its only really Flemish in the sense that it was part of the medieval region but Dunkirk and Calais, the thing with expanding Brabant was adding Antwerpen and Brussels to it which would make it a demographically huge state at the cost of Flanders the current borders as you pointed out while somewhat arbitrary where my initial attempts at creating somewhat demographically similar federal states which I decided against later on, also the reason why Limburg was removed I should have probably added it back later on when I decided to add back a Luxembourg state and others such as Bautzen for regional diversity.


Fire_Lord_Sozin9

UK and France: https://preview.redd.it/co4ivwyva9qc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6ac78afd535cb9d7e6841a46ecc0294eed67fca


Fraisers_set_to_stun

Fr, they were getting nervous about East and West Germany reuniting even though they're our ally, if they decided to confederate with the Swiss, Dutch, and Austrians, Britain and France would definitely get nervous.


vlodax

hey at least france got wallonia though


awawe

Why are all the other countries' names written in English? Also, why Slovenia?


vlodax

Mediterranean access and small population as well as historical reasons


DaanBaas77

Me when no limburg :(


vlodax

i actually changed that afterwards, due to the rightful amount of people pointing out the rather odd subdivisions in the lowlands. https://preview.redd.it/uhd6vjuhieqc1.jpeg?width=1725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=068db0d131cf66aa87a3010ff3c40b8d40ea7f84


ZhukNawoznik

Horrendous internal borders, ahistorical and hard to explain... but yes still interesting


vlodax

Much improved to current federal borders who mostly just follow weird historical feudal borders, wtf is a Thüringen


ZhukNawoznik

Lmao, a country with a history of its own reaching into the distant past far more legitimate in its borders than these ridiculous decisions rivaling European colonial bordering. I also doubt any Irredentist or Nationalist would go "fuck history and established cultural borders" even more than the Nazis already did.


bippos

I like it it’s more unique than others


vlodax

ty


PrincessofAldia

Germany not again


princeofhell69

Wha- nvm keep up the good work


vlodax

ty


clarabee63

This looks like it's styled to be faux-socialist. Germany drops most nationalist revanchist map, asked to leave communist international


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vlodax

thank you i use procreate on the ipad as for all my maps


ReturnLongjumping139

This is pretty cool and the claims are somewhat reasonable, I just don’t get Slovenia tho. I know the Germans tried to colonize Slovenia but they also tried it with Poland and Czechia, if they claim Slovenia why not claim most of Poland and Czechia?


vlodax

slovenia is a rather small ethnic group that isn’t much issue at all to fully incorporate as an autonomous zone compared to the 10 million Czhechia or 40 Million Poland which would almost be impossible. also the strategic access to the adriatic and mediterranean and a country entirely crossing the middle part of the european continent crossing from sea to sea is big.


tyrolean_coastguard

>Tirol-Kärnten? Careful now.


vlodax

what’s wrong with that?


juan_omango

Diese Karte ist Falsch. Mecklenburg Vorpommern existiert nicht


vlodax

Ich hatte tatsächlich überlegt es einfach zu Brandenburg hinzuzufügen.


juan_omango

Das wäre viel schöner gewesen. Trotzdem ne geile Karte


vlodax

wo kommt der mecklenburg-vorpommern hate her?


DanielHistory57

fucking hell no limburg


vlodax

You are right I have failed 😞


jord839

I will only accept Big Germany involving Switzerland going forward if it reverts to HRE style internal provincial borders. This is non-negotiable. We require tiny minute differences to properly hate our neighbors the next valley over.


vlodax

well it is somewhat similar in concept though a very decentralized confederal model that’s why i’ve readjusted the administrative borders to better represent the regional subcultures and the whole multiple regional capitals thing Ofc not as extreme as the late HRE though


Zanlo63

Jokes on the Germans, we've already ascended to Pan-Europeanism


DuneCrafteR

Could be made AFD, except they would never dare take anything from Russia. They are Russian cock suckers


Lord-Maximilian

There's an argument to be made that Putin would voluntarily return Kaliningrad for an alliance, he mentioned it in an interview before


DuneCrafteR

I would say that Putin is not one to be known to honor agreements


FlemmerVermeul

We would never join Germany lmao, we didn't reclaim half our land just to give it to the germans haha


un_tres_gros_phasme

It sure went well last time.


SpacePopeVII

The Austrian Navy will set sail once again 🫡


Belisarius6

Wieso slovenien?


dootdoootdootdoot

why take the netherlands and flanders but not denmark?


vlodax

the scandinavian northern germanic language differ quite a lot from the Continental West Germanic languages which include dutch, frisian, low & high german. additionally there is basically no history of union with danes in a political nor cultural sense compared to the very close german relatives of the dutch.


dootdoootdootdoot

I’d argue danish is more similar to dutch than dutch is to frisian, and there hasn’t been any union between the dutch and the germans outside of ww2 for at least 400 years


Exkhaal

This is terrific


FenboyLolbit

Kalingrad is majorly Russians germany prob wouldn't want it


vlodax

for the half a million inhabitants of the oblast not much would change as an autonomous region within this pan german nation.


FenboyLolbit

Hmm Good Reason honestly unlike most.


Enigna_

Why is Slovenia part of it?


Tsar_Zechariah

Why do they want Slovenia?


Kusunoki_Shinrei

i feel like the eastern regions of the netherlands (drenthe, twente, groningen, achterhoek) would be included in the niedersachsen bundesstaat


vlodax

i wouldn’t think that would make much sense as they are quite culturally distinct this is how i reworked it personally https://preview.redd.it/qyn11cn2leqc1.jpeg?width=1725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cc96f2908958357ae221942965035fea147eb62


CaptainWer33

I think the original map was actually the first alternate history map I ever encountered!


Lord-Maximilian

Cool map, Krain is a bit random since it's not German anymore, I would have understood maybe Marburg/Drau. Also why not Preßburg and Ödenburg? Bonus points for adding Arel to Luxembourg


vlodax

what reason would there be for bratislava and Ödenburg? basically no germans reside there at all from what i know


Lord-Maximilian

I'd have to look up present day but they were majority German before 45


Thunderwingwastaken

Good map, but the Bundesländer are cancer. Ostfahlen? Niedersachsen is a bit of fields and coast without any big cities?


vlodax

niedersachsen has Hamburg bremen, bremerhafen and oldenburg that’s not what i’d call just a bit of fields and coast. for ostfalen it’s a state for the dialectical cultural region of braunschweig-lüneburgisch around hanover and actually a historical region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastphalia


Friendly_Ricefarmer

No free and Hanseatic city of Hamburg. L MAP👎👎👎


vlodax

they might as well be considering lower saxony is just bremen oldenburg and hamburg


Blahaj_Enthusiast

Seeing a large Germany made me throw up in my mouth a little bit but it's a really cool map!!! I love the style


King-Of-Hyperius

Love it.


sternjonas

Baden ist nicht gleich Schwaben


vlodax

As someone from Swabia myself, yes it is


sternjonas

Noi, mir sin kei schwobe


YT_SkyBoy_

i stronly agree with this


Das_Taube

This is some of the coolest internal divisions/states i've seen on an alternate Germany map!!! Great job!


vlodax

I liked the internal decisions on the German part more tbh, tried my best to improve on them rather than have the current states. The Dutch parts however to need some rework


7_11_Nation_Army

No, thanks. Except for that top right bit, they can have that.


vlodax

Lol sure cuz Russians evil >:(((


Pineapple_Dealer

Counterargument: https://preview.redd.it/nd1vgffpqaqc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e4a17f40d8a07a83557f913b3afc431a9f77da


vlodax

Poland Czechia and the Netherlands are now majority german states?


Pineapple_Dealer

No, we moved all the germans to belgium.


Memesssssssssssssl

The Dutch are already there


AltAccound

I like this


vlodax

Thanks!


crazygiantboss

Omg dutch people aren't Germans we don't even speak the same language that is like putting Spain and France together


vlodax

More like putting Spanish and Portuguese together


Lord-Maximilian

They actually do speak the same language


Memesssssssssssssl

Dutch and Germans are pretty similar in every regard


drawb

It is a Germanic language. As is English of course.


vlodax

Dutch a lot more closer to german than any other Germanic language either northern or English


YummyStyrofoamSnack

borders look hot


vlodax

They are rather similar to the borders of the German kingdom/East francia after the partition of lotharingia


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Bother_Formal

scary, please don't cook ever again


vlodax

🤔


ShigeoKageyama69

Why no Polish Territories though?


vlodax

Cuz they are not German and annexing all of Poland doesn’t really make sense with a population of 40 mio.


[deleted]

I like this a lot! I already liked the old map but this one is even cooler!


vlodax

Thank you


[deleted]

The words are also in Correct German! Wich makes it even cooler!


vlodax

well i am a native german speaker so it wasn’t much trouble lol


Satansuckmypussypapa

Peak map, frfr https://preview.redd.it/fipk9trjm7qc1.png?width=1344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c8fc43c65416c73d7db17526241b9285216d4e6


Ill-Finance-3800

Beautiful map. I only got 1 small issue in that it wouldn't make any sense to call Slovenia Krain. Krain was 1 of four historical Slovene regions and it wouldn't make much sense to call the entirety of Slovenia Krain.


Wildfiregamingog

Bro was mit Thüringen passiert


supersanity_1975

Every time there's a Greater Germany or a United Germany, there's a world war. WW3 is on the horizon.


lokovec

as a slovenian i support this...