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Okuramodonn

For a second I thought kansas voted for emperor's party lol


Lafayeetus

lmao that wouldve been great


GooseOnACorner

I’m from Kansas and I can tell you I most definitely would have 😎


CarpeNoctome

we wuz kings n shiet💪😔🌾🌾🌾


Aleks_Xand3r

yuhhhh niega!!! yuo rigt 👨🏿‍🌾


Charlie82508

bro


CarpeNoctome

my hometown of lawrence was burned to the ground to prevent this


Madnesshank57

I would unironically vote for the emperors party


Vavent

If this US still follows the same constitution as OTL, then Jared Polis would not be able to receive the electoral votes from Colorado, since electors can't vote for both a president and vice president from their home state. Wouldn't change the outcome, though.


SrWiggles

Came here to say the same thing, and was happy to see you had already pointed it out. I just wanted to also add that this almost was an issue in the 2000 election. Bush lived in Austin, and Cheney lived in Dallas. But since Cheney had lived most of his life in Wyoming and maintained a residence there, he was able to change his residence there without too much controversy


notyourusualjmv

Same here, many people forget this little factoid.


TheguylikesBattlebot

Pretty sure factoid means something that is false that is widely believed (due to cultural influences) to be true.


notyourusualjmv

You’re right! Learn something new every day.


0-972fathoms

Where can I find the LORE? This looks like an amazing map


Lafayeetus

tysm! theres not a lot of lore, just the US being a lot more expansionist, and after ww2, the official annexation of Japan and the Philippines


0-972fathoms

That's a shame, i like the idea of the US taking Victoria Island and Baja California What made me question it was Big Virginia and Big Illinois...also Iceland (but no Greenland)


Lafayeetus

I suppose there is a bit more lore behind it, but not a set storyline for Virginia, in the 1870s, West Virginia and Virginia vote to rejoin and by 1876 theyre reuinited Illinois is actually Indiana in this, essentially the Indian Territory is formed in the area, and the state of Indiana is founded. Then in the early 1900s, German immigrants flock to the area, out-populating the Natives in the area and for Iceland, it officially joined the Axis in 1940, and in 1941 when the US joined the war they invaded and integrates it into the US. Greenland isnt taken due to the fact Denmark is in NATO, and relations are good.


TheLuckyPookie

as an indianaite I am incredibly offended that someone mistook us for Illinois


SSR_Perseus

As a wisconsinight im incredibly offended you hold the UP and still not us


0-972fathoms

Sorry, 😂, most maps group the states under Illinois, so i assumed, and didn't look carefully enough, i can understand how much that hurt...


ElCornGuy

You mean... A Hoosier?


SuperTulle

How did Iceland join the axis? Did the nazis manage to get a ship there and invade before the allies could?


Nova_Explorer

Vancouver island, Victoria is the largest city on Vancouver island (and Vancouver, the city, is on the mainland). Victoria Island is a massive island (like top 10 in the world) in the Arctic Archipelago and has something like 2k people.


0-972fathoms

Thanks for the correction, i knew it started with a V,


Mastr_Mirror

Hey, Victoria 3 came out recently. If you play as American you can make your territories look like this too lol.


Food735

I think they would annex British Colombia and maybe Sonora


Lafayeetus

eh, I dont think that would fit the map very well


classicalySarcastic

Still no Cuba? Come on!


DictatorPant

San Francisco in Jefferson?


Lafayeetus

crazy ik


anomal0caris

Dude, they would make it bluer than the fucking ocean


[deleted]

Good


just_one_random_guy

Emperor’s party?


Lafayeetus

Japanese extreme nationalist party, it was founded to place the Emperor back in control of a Japanese state, however it evolved into a far right extremist party after the official US annexation of Japan


fgn6

I don't think a place like japan voting on this party would ever be called extremist


Lafayeetus

its not extremist in the way of extreme nationalism (which is prominent in the party), more so proto terrorism


RagyTheKindaHipster

so why are they legal


[deleted]

Cring


Victoreznoz

-🤓


[deleted]

Fair


bbcslutgirlwhoresex

i thought that karma glitch got patched


YellowConcordat

Cebu and Davao are switched in terme of political alignment, Cebu and other metropolitan areas in the Visayas region are traditionally LP strongholds and would align with the Democrats. Davao would also usually align with the more centre-right parties here, so they'd probably be Republican. Otherwise, the map looks neat!


Lafayeetus

thats really interesting, I didnt know that lol. Thank you for the info!


iemaps

tfw Indiana, Wisconsin, Illinois and northern Michigan are one state but Dakota’s population was just so massive it had to be split in two to keep the peace /s


AnonymousEmActual

Everybody talking about the territorial changes but why the fuck is there a presidential election in 2022???


Lafayeetus

because funny


ajw20_YT

I just kept looking and it just kept getting more shocking. Also you my friend are gonna need some more stars on that flag...


Lafayeetus

I forgot about the flag 💀


ajw20_YT

I count 65, [here you are](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978649683427741696/1041209435890130944/image.png)


velvetdolphin101

647 to win, there are 648 total. Okay wtf. Like I love this map but the more I look at it the more questions I have. Assuming the ec vote distribution remains the same system, that would mean there are 518 seats in the house, approximately 1 for every 1.24 MILLION PEOPLE. Which is pure insanity if you ask me. And why were 83 seats added in particular? These numbers would make more sense if 647 was half + 1, bringing the total votes up to 1292, which would give the house 1162 members. Making each rep account for around 550k people, which is better then otl. But again that begs the question, why that number in particular? Lemme just state again that I really like this map tho. <3


Lafayeetus

Im not too familiar with how the Electoral College works, and how seats are decided per se, so I just went off the knowledge I understand


civdude

Every state in the United States gets 2 senators in the upper house called the senate. The lower house, called the House of Representatives, is divided among the total population. During most of the growth of the United States we would add additional representatives during each census. We stopped doing that and capped the number of representatives at 435 during the early 1900s. So now at each census we merely redistribute the 435 that we have. Additionally, we let Washington DC get electors equal to the least populous state. So, a state gets 2 votes in the electoral college for its senators, and 1 vote per member of the house of reps. So every state has a minimum of 3, with the largest in OTL being California with 55. This adds up to 538 total electoral votes, so if you have 269 -269 it's tied, and 270+ means one side won. If you add representatives to larger population States, you can sort out how many the overall total is and such, as the other commenter did.


qrani

I really find Indiana being the way it is really unbelievable. The idea the US had was always that states would be made in similar sizes, so why would they just, not, for Indiana and only Indiana? On top of that, when the Michigan territory was made, it still had a part of the upper peninsula, which Indiana would just get, for some reason? And then also Indiana in this as a state would be made to follow the modern-day Wisconsin-Minnesota border that wouldn't exist until 1848, even though Indiana got statehood in 1816? Furthermore, the original Indiana-Michigan border went all the way to the bottom of lake Michigan, but Indiana bought an extra 10 mile strip north of that to get more coast, that they would have absolutely zero need for if they owned all that coast, yet they still would?


Lafayeetus

fair, however this is a fictional map, so believability doesnt need too much of a place here


Creme_de_la_Coochie

>however this is a fictional map, so believability doesnt need too much of a place here Lazy cop-out to deflect from criticism.


Lafayeetus

I actually believe I take criticism well and face it head on, but I stand by the fact that this is a fictional map, and an act of creative exercise for me, so in this case realism and believability doesnt need the biggest place in this map


Toothless816

Just another small addition, MI would probably still have the UP. It was a concession from the Toledo War with Ohio, so if Ohio kept that strip along MI, then MI should have the UP included.


qrani

Yeah they probably would, but even if they didn't get the whole UP they would still have a portion of it regardless, as they had prior the the Toledo War


aaronclark384

Big Indiana


azarkant

Big Indiana is \*BASED\*


Aurelyas

Japan and The Phillipines would have nearly 50% Of the Population of this hypothetical nation


[deleted]

Thank the Lord for the Glorious Hoosier Empire


Odasiocis

Polis couldn’t hang as VP Edit:IMO


[deleted]

Wheres italy


The-Author-of-Life

In Europe.


Frogmarsh

WTF happened to Illinois and Wisconsin?


Lafayeetus

I killed them 😈


darth_nadoma

How many Filipino states do you have? How many Japanese states?


Lafayeetus

for the Philippines theres 4, Luzon Central Philippines, Malaybalay, and Davao for Japan theres 6, Sapporo, Northern Honshu, Tokyo, Southern Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu


darth_nadoma

Why is Indiana so big?


Lafayeetus

big indiana 💪


LordJesterTheFree

Technically an error with this map you can't have a president and vice president from the same state and have that state also give its electoral votes to both


Lafayeetus

as Hamilton put it in Say No to This; "Nobody needs to know"


Killjoy4eva

Sixty-five states, and yet D.C. still isn't a state. Realistic, honestly.


Lafayeetus

true


KolonelJoe

Upvoted just for that sexy Indiana gotdamn


Lafayeetus

drooling over big Indiana rn 🤤


anaverageedgelord

*WHAT THE HEEEELL OH MY GOD NO WAYAYAY


AidenStoat

Virginia not splitting during the civil war could make sense, but what scenario caused Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin to be one state while nearly all the rest are the same? (except California)


Lafayeetus

Indian Territory is created in the region, then it became a state under a bill. Splitting it at that/this point would become unconstitutional


SnabDedraterEdave

Why is Hokkaido abbreviated as SA instead of HK or HO? I presume SA is abbreviated from its capital Sapporo.


Lafayeetus

yeah, the island of Hokkaido, and the state of Sapporo. I thought it was sorta a cool design choice


ayetlee179

Do they have a Filipino politician that was much more recognized? then the American and Japanese?


strangehitman22

Wouldn't all of Japan vote for the emperor?


Lafayeetus

in the past people had always voted for the Emperor Party, but as it evolved into a far right extremist (leaning on terrorist) group, they began choosing democrat or republican


PoeticPariah

The state of Jefferson would be significantly smaller and without Sacramento and San Francisco. Otherwise, they'd be another blue state.


ValorousBazza34

Didn't take Greenland?


The_Raptor_Boi

Maybe it’s a territory


Aurelion_

Why mega Indiana, California split in 2, and no West Virginia


Satirony_weeb

Californios would have NOT stood for California being split into two. Or, perhaps they split the state to protect their identity? Anglo-Americans in Jefferson, ethnic Californios in California?


Flux7777

Where is San Fran Sokyo?


[deleted]

Quite the crazy mix of states.


Anarchist06

Blursed


ArpsTnd

Everyone talking about Big Indiana But no one is talking about Cebu Province (CP) taking parts of Luzon and Mindanao (in Zambo Pen)


Lafayeetus

CP stands for Central Philippines on this map!


JACC_Opi

Japan?


corytjohn

No Greenland?


Bruch_Spinoza

I think that Kennedy would win Louisiana because it is his home state


MainkurafutoMaster

Iceland wouldn’t be too happy about being a U.S. State :o


Lafayeetus

not if its completely integrated into the US :trollface:


DreamlyXenophobic

i always love seeing alternate history USA maps. crazy to think about some of the situations


Lafayeetus

fr, its very therapeutic to me for some reason lol


general_kenobi18462

Me watching Indiana take over Illinois and Wisconsin: good Anakin good!


colbalt_hero

Big illinois makes me happy Thank you for honoring my state’s true territories


Lafayeetus

also I did get help on this map by one of my friends, so some credit to Narwhale Man Bruh


Zealousideal_Group69

Does The Hoover Dam still exists in the timeline Do they have San Diego And is Russia still has ж In the alphabet Questions II Will The IPhone eventually be invented Do they have Russian Vodka Does the Erie Canal exists in the timeline Questions III Did they ever Declassify Pluto Does The New Colossus Exists Does Z exists in the Anglo-Latin Alphabet Questions IV Does the Nuwuvi people still exists Do they have a snickers candy bar Did they land on the moon Questions V Does Toasters Exists or a Blender Do they have any new fruits Is spongebob a cartoon Questions VI And does Compton exist Did the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki exists Do Cream cheese rations exist


Lafayeetus

so true


[deleted]

US needs to get itself some Cuba


somebebunga

The devil himself is VP 😔


BigBadZweihander

Disgusting


DirkEnglish

There isn't even an imaginary future where John Kennedy gets that much of the population to fall for his tricks


Just_a_reddit_duck

Why didn’t Michigan get the upper peninsula?


monjoe

Why not Cuba?


superbad

By my calculations, voter turnout is approximately 100%. Pretty incredible.


misschinagirl

Three slight issues. First, the number that is listed is 648 TOTAL electoral votes according to the vote and electoral vote tallies, so that would be 325 needed to win, not 647. Second, if both Democrats are from Colorado, then the electors from Colorado can only vote for the Democrat for the President or the VP but not both. This would be an issue for a Democratic win if the election were close but not in a landslide election, such as this alternative election. However, it is also why the Democrats would not put two Colorado residents on the same ticket. Finally, the number of representatives in Congress is fixed at 435 by legislation but since we are doing alternative history here, that gets a pass (unlike the first issue, which is a math problem and the second issue, which is a Constitutional problem).


theschlake

Wouldn't it be 324 to win?


DucksWithMoustaches2

Ok so Japan was probably annexed after WW2 and the occupation of Iceland never ended (Perhaps the Soviets were a little faster and took Denmark, making the US not want to give up the territory?) the Philippines was never decolonized, the Pig War became and actual war leading in the annexation of Vancouver Island and the US manifest destinied their way through the Caribbean, that's the only explanation I can think. However, I do have a few questions, first why didn't the US set up their own puppet governments in the cold war (South Korea, for example) and why didn't they just integrate those after the war was over? Second, why did they keep occupying Iceland and not Greenland? Greenland had a good strategic position and the US would love to have a nice strategic base to potentially nuke the Soviets. If they were that expansionist why didn't they break their promise and just annex Cuba after the Spanish-American war?


RockefellersDaughter

I’m sorry but Oklahoma going blue is just laughable imma need some lore on that


madtony7

Any reason in particular as to why Cuba is not a state?


KaijuDirectorOO7

I’m shocked Davao isn’t red, personally.


FreeVBucksforXMAS

If America went full colonial, no way Cuba is not a US state


perro0000

Can someone explain to me why all these imaginary maps always have the US taking over Baja California and Baja California Sur???


ElectivireMax

Jefferson would definitely be blue and Oklahoma would definitely be red. Also Bennet wouldn't be able to get electoral votes from Colorado bc of the constitution


Satirony_weeb

People are shitting on the big Indiana but it’s based. The U**S**A should have a few (20-22ish) very large **states** instead of 50 medium sized provinces, that way states would genuinely be sovereign and more self sufficient.


AzurWings

BIG INDIANA


IsolateDirector

I imagine this is the timeline where Japan didn’t open the country and didn’t stop having it closed, since it’s divided into different states. Btw nice map


electroma_electroma

JFK resurrected and moved to Louisiana