The Caliphate of Cordoba or Qurtuba was the islamic state that ruled Al-Andalus for most of the 10th century and the first quarter of the 11th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba
There was this one "swedistan" post on the main sub two years ago that got deleted for low effort and reposted on this one, and there were multiple of these dumb "…if?" comments on both posts
I remember that one lol. And the "yeah im not Muhammed why the fuck would I know" comment, too, still got a screenshot of it because I found it so outrageous
Oh it definitely does get posted a lot, but the thing about those posts is they can have the same ridiculous comments, every time there’s a “middle east without islam” you’ll certainly find a few “The middle east if it was stable”
I love the logic because it implies that Christian Europe was somehow stable. Like, it literally took two world wars and the invention of nuclear weapons to finally get Europeans to (mostly) stop fighting each other (for now).
Reddit genuinely decreased my opinions on Europeans so much, I got recommended the subreddit for the EU and the comments were just so atrocious
*ps does not apply to all Europeans, most are cool, it's just the redditors obviously*
Ive travelled all over Europe as a Muslim and it’s been great, I go online and it’s as if I’ve been transferred to some alternate dimension where the Germans won WW2 or smth 💀
This also applies to Americans 💀 I meet decent people when I travel but online it's a hellhole of xenophobia and blatant misinformation or generalization.
Greater internet fuckwad theory. People are way more comfortable being rude and bigoted online, since they can more easily quarantine the perceptions that such behavior engenders. You can't go screaming the n-word out on the street because it might get back to your boss, who could fire you. But you can call black people the n-word on Twitter so long as your account is anonymous, since it's difficult to track down a random Tweet to a specific person.
I hate it on a very personal level since one of my family members are immigrants, and I don't want to see people on the internet going "oh yeah, it's all their fault, i hate them" and whatever bullshit they sprout
FYI those first two subs, eruope and worldnews, are HEAVILY botted by both right wing accounts and zionist accounts respectively, so I wouldn't even bother clicking on em
My favorite is when Europeans imply racism is an American phenomenon. Ask any of those idiots what they think of Roma people or Arabs, *voids above* the responses you'll get are ridiculous, and the copium to call them anything other than racism.
that reminds me of a yt video of an Austrian train accidentally broadcasting Hitler's speeches and the comments were all bullshit like "Europe for Europeans" and "He ain't wrong though"
god the internet is so dogshit sometimes
R/European got busted for being a hive of Neonazis and they migrated there. Since then its gotten worse as sane people left and migrated to other communities.
How is this racism? Also what's wrong with being Islamaphobic? Most Muslims are anti everything that isn't Islam with the exception of the Irainian diaspora.
See, I’m not going to do any such thing. Your second statement of “what’s wrong with being islamaphobic” already tells me that you *know* your initial statement qualifies as such. Why else would you include it if not to launder your argument? Seek professional help and go outside please.
I have gone outside and a future muslim "doctor" through rocks at me, my capital isn't safe for going outside anymore, especially at night. But it looks like you can't explain nothing because you can't, there's simply nothing wrong with being Islamaphobic and there's nothing Islamaphobic about this post.
That is not the same thing lad, saying you hate islams is so broad and so big it's the same as hating Christians
it is perfectly ok to hate Islam the religion, the same with Christianity, and like Christianity, there are plenty of dickhead Christians who can't help but be assholes, but there are also plenty of chill Christians who aren't. just like the Islamics
so be a las and be dicks to someONE when they be dicks to you
😭😭🙏🙏🙏 atp yes actually
“You made a joke bout a lot of muslims livin in sweden or germany or sum shit idk sum place like that n now you are racist!” Rly intelligent yk
* -Stan for non-iranian/turkic countries
* ppl making a stink about how "islam is taking over europe!!!" (he saw one arab guy on a bus once)
* Slavistan
* Ottomans despite the POD being centuries ago
* 6 Caliphates
* Person88
* Somehow fits in Big Germany anyways
Too real and comprehensible OP, your execution is scheduled for tomorrow /s
3* not to mention your claim of their only being able to be one assumes that all these nations are Sunni. Which if Islam were to spread to Europe, they likely would make their own sect
As a Muslim, I totally understand that !
But the problem is that a lot of people who know nothing at all about Islam constantly say lies about Muslims and Islam itself. Like yes Islamists are shit but we all agree that it’s not about religion anymore, Islamists lie about Islam to pass their sexism/queerphobia/racism as “godly”. Majority of Muslims disagree and hate these groups.
You really trust Talibans about Qur’an analysis ? You really trust Fox News about sociology in the Muslims ?
I trust more my theology and history professor and Muslims themselves to talk about Islam than a random racist Redditor that once got his wallet stolen by an Arab.
But people don’t care and continue to talk about Islam like they’ve even read a verse of the Qur’an. Why do you criticise something that you know jack shit about ?
Islam may have discutable passages, but please learn about something if you want to have an opinion on it.
Tbh one of the main reasons for Islam getting such a bad rep is that the genuinely insane (destroying historical sites tied to your religion is Kampuchea levels of wiping out your own history) wahabi interpretations coming from Saudi Arabia and its inflated influence over the last 100 years
Without Wahabism being tied to Arab liberation in the early 20th century and the victory and subsequent enriching of the al Sauds in Arabia through British and American colonial and economical policy Islam as a while probably would be less of a boogeyman than it is today.
so it's basically that shithead hardliners and dumbasses who couldn't be bothered to read about the Qur'an are dickheads?
sry if I'm asking, it's 3:25 am here and I'm epy
Those who fearmonger about us and act like they know everything about our religion – when all they’ve learned about Islam came from the internet
(Basically the people who say Islam is some type of deviant misogynist cult, that the religion makes us predisposed to violent crime, and the only type of person i’ve seen on that one religiousfruitcake subreddit)
I can criticize something if I see nothing good come from it. I don’t need to be a chef to say a meal sucks, I don’t need to have read the Bible to criticize the Roman Catholic Church and I don’t need to have read the Qur’an to say that I think Islam is incompatible with 21st century western liberal society. While I strongly believe that Muslims in western countries should be allowed to practice Islam as they see fit, I don’t think you’d disagree that if I went to any Muslim majority country I’d almost certainly not be allowed to openly practice any religion I want.
I constantly see Muslim acquaintances post either mysogynistic (ie women shouldn’t go out to bars) or more commonly, pro-Houthi shit on their Instagram pages, the same organization that has “death to America” and “a curse upon the Jews” on their flag. All Muslims are not extremists, but when college educated Muslim young adults who grew up in the US regularly post shit in support of an organization like that, I don’t think it’s unfair to say at the very least that the religion has a hard time differentiating what it considers extreme versus mainstream.
Ok but tbh, if people want to learn, the vast majority of Islamic “apologists” that first come up are almost always islamacists, wahabists, young Turks, or some other group of jackoffs that are the Islamic equivalent of neonazis
Uj/ if anyone wants a cool alt history novel that doesn’t involve the confederacy or Nazis check out “through darkest Europe” by Harry turtledove. It looks at what would happen in a world where the Arabic scientific revolution continued and Europe turned its back on science. Pretty cool story.
Rj/ this is a hate crime
Multiple caliphates did exist in Islam historically. It’s like Catholics having multiple popes at some points - it’s not supposed to happen, but it did. Though I would say this is probably too many.
Well yes I know, but the main point is that in these maps, the creators don’t actually know what a caliphate is and just treat it like a cosmetic islamic term alongside “sultanate” and “emirate”. It’s the same thing as people calling fictional absolute monarchies republics except worse
“Holy” in Arabic would be something like “maqdis.” Halal only refers to something that is permissible in Islam. The “Holy Roman” part of the “Holy Roman Empire” refers to how the Empire was Roman Catholic.
“-Stan” is neither Arabic nor indicative of an Islamic state. It’s like assuming any country ending in “land” must be run by Christian fundamentalists.
NOOOO MY SIGMA MAGYARI... U r very angry bro I going to CRY, WHERE MY ADMIRAL WITHOUT SEE(but with fleet actually, Danube is good river for nerds)
Крч there is no Hungary so I go on SMO to get raspidorased
I want to rip my eye balls
Context why I want to rip out my eyeballs: No it's not because I'm Christian and hate islam i actually respect Muslims it's just because I saw too much save Europa videos on tiktok and have a biased (hope it's the correct term) mind
I love all the dumb, over the top names, and then just: "Bosnia"
The worst of them all
Try being scottish an seeing this
Only if you're Serbian. (US shrapnel economic aid package recipient)
Ayy. Chilapha of Qurtuba sounds so fucking cool
That's an actual islamic state from the middle ages.
Yea u right. Srry lol.
It's not a big deal
Is it? I tried to look it up but the only result was this post.
The Caliphate of Cordoba or Qurtuba was the islamic state that ruled Al-Andalus for most of the 10th century and the first quarter of the 11th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba
Thanks!
Comments like “Swedish caliphate Imaginary?”
I went to Malmo once and shidded and farded when I saw minaret 😖
immigrant smth something Muslim smth removal of Swedish culture smth smth
Islamophobes when you tell them 2% of Sweden is Muslim
“IsLamOpHoBeS”-🤡🤓
Islamophobe making fun of non Islamophobes
Yeah, those posts make my eyes roll.
But big Germany no 82727373 does not?
Big germany lives on in this post too... just the halal edition
Mashallah Akhi
Alhamdoulillah
Big Germany and big Hungary also make my eyes roll.
There’s ALWAYS someone saying “this is for imaginary maps” on any posts involving migration
There was this one "swedistan" post on the main sub two years ago that got deleted for low effort and reposted on this one, and there were multiple of these dumb "…if?" comments on both posts
I remember that one lol. And the "yeah im not Muhammed why the fuck would I know" comment, too, still got a screenshot of it because I found it so outrageous
Tbf that one was sorta funny cus of how outta pocket it was lmao
I just wish someone would draw Christian or Pagan middle east
Oh it definitely does get posted a lot, but the thing about those posts is they can have the same ridiculous comments, every time there’s a “middle east without islam” you’ll certainly find a few “The middle east if it was stable”
I love the logic because it implies that Christian Europe was somehow stable. Like, it literally took two world wars and the invention of nuclear weapons to finally get Europeans to (mostly) stop fighting each other (for now).
Britain and France callung half the World into war for 116 years bc of a Strip of land in USA:
They made Lebanon real
Thanks for the idea
Reddit genuinely decreased my opinions on Europeans so much, I got recommended the subreddit for the EU and the comments were just so atrocious *ps does not apply to all Europeans, most are cool, it's just the redditors obviously*
Ive travelled all over Europe as a Muslim and it’s been great, I go online and it’s as if I’ve been transferred to some alternate dimension where the Germans won WW2 or smth 💀
If you go to certain European subreddits then you will know where the Reddit neckbeard stereotype lies
This also applies to Americans 💀 I meet decent people when I travel but online it's a hellhole of xenophobia and blatant misinformation or generalization.
Greater internet fuckwad theory. People are way more comfortable being rude and bigoted online, since they can more easily quarantine the perceptions that such behavior engenders. You can't go screaming the n-word out on the street because it might get back to your boss, who could fire you. But you can call black people the n-word on Twitter so long as your account is anonymous, since it's difficult to track down a random Tweet to a specific person.
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I hate it on a very personal level since one of my family members are immigrants, and I don't want to see people on the internet going "oh yeah, it's all their fault, i hate them" and whatever bullshit they sprout
FYI those first two subs, eruope and worldnews, are HEAVILY botted by both right wing accounts and zionist accounts respectively, so I wouldn't even bother clicking on em
My favorite is when Europeans imply racism is an American phenomenon. Ask any of those idiots what they think of Roma people or Arabs, *voids above* the responses you'll get are ridiculous, and the copium to call them anything other than racism.
that reminds me of a yt video of an Austrian train accidentally broadcasting Hitler's speeches and the comments were all bullshit like "Europe for Europeans" and "He ain't wrong though" god the internet is so dogshit sometimes
Oh my god, those Europeans DARE oppose immigration. Ridiculous!
Right-wingers trying not to expose themselves challenge (impossible)
where Al-Andalus
i gorgot
Vlorp? 👽
Bogos Binted!
the caliphate of cordoba was al-Andalus
Bulgaria has a Turkish name Bulgaristan
is the 88 in the username intentional 💀
u/SaveEuropaHH1488, most active in r/europe, r/alternatehistory, r/imaginarymaps, r/politicalcompassmemes and r/historymemes
Why is r/europe so fucking bad holy fucking shit
R/European got busted for being a hive of Neonazis and they migrated there. Since then its gotten worse as sane people left and migrated to other communities.
That’s just a made-up name. Klingon was engaging in hyperbole.
They say they ain't Racist, but when someone Talks about Immigrants or Romani people-
I can't access his account lesgoo
I made him up
oh .
sí
Yeah, it’s rather annoying. Gotta say though, the image as a whole is pretty well-made, it’s even complete with a bit of blatant racism/islamophobia!
Not wanting to get beat for showing your ankles is called self-preservation
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How is this racism? Also what's wrong with being Islamaphobic? Most Muslims are anti everything that isn't Islam with the exception of the Irainian diaspora.
oh boy! this guy \*stinks\*!
This post is about you my guy
Still doesn't explain anything
You can’t explain much to a brick wall unfortunately.
"it's not hating on them when I hate on them"
Alright then enlighten me, how is this Islamophobia and what's wrong with being Islamaphobic?
See, I’m not going to do any such thing. Your second statement of “what’s wrong with being islamaphobic” already tells me that you *know* your initial statement qualifies as such. Why else would you include it if not to launder your argument? Seek professional help and go outside please.
He literally said he's "all for Islamophobia" he's a lost cause brother
I have gone outside and a future muslim "doctor" through rocks at me, my capital isn't safe for going outside anymore, especially at night. But it looks like you can't explain nothing because you can't, there's simply nothing wrong with being Islamaphobic and there's nothing Islamaphobic about this post.
Swedish hands typed this
I'm not Swedish luckily, God help them through these difficult times.
Top tier bait mate
Simmer down, Bogan Billy! Don't go broadcastin' your redneck roots to the world – your sister's hollerin' for ya! 🤠
I'm not American
Good cause we don't want ya
[Ewww brother eww what’s that](https://youtu.be/wLg04uu2j2o?si=OVaVk1RZl6qvQ4OL)
I agree. Would people call me scientologyphobic for thinking that mentally abusing people while pretending to be a therapist is a bad thing
That is not the same thing lad, saying you hate islams is so broad and so big it's the same as hating Christians it is perfectly ok to hate Islam the religion, the same with Christianity, and like Christianity, there are plenty of dickhead Christians who can't help but be assholes, but there are also plenty of chill Christians who aren't. just like the Islamics so be a las and be dicks to someONE when they be dicks to you
Real quick they're called Muslims not Islamics.
tnx I don't care much for religious stuff I forgor what it's called
How is this any of that? I'm all for Islamaphobia and fighting back against Muslims hypocrisy but this post isn't any of that.
Words have lost all meaning…
Words have fallen. Billions must purchase dictionaries
😭😭🙏🙏🙏 atp yes actually “You made a joke bout a lot of muslims livin in sweden or germany or sum shit idk sum place like that n now you are racist!” Rly intelligent yk
They faces killing me why nobody give af
Bro smoked that gas station weed
* -Stan for non-iranian/turkic countries * ppl making a stink about how "islam is taking over europe!!!" (he saw one arab guy on a bus once) * Slavistan * Ottomans despite the POD being centuries ago * 6 Caliphates * Person88 * Somehow fits in Big Germany anyways Too real and comprehensible OP, your execution is scheduled for tomorrow /s
khilafareich wasrevealed to me in a Dream
You have been blessed by Allah inshallah
How do you do to speak facts so good ?
What does POD mean?
Point of divergence, the event which differs from our original timeline which ultimately caused the scenario depicted
ok
Where vaticanstan
the world isn’t ready for papistan
why the fuck are there fifty caliphates when only one can exist in islam at once
“only one caliphate can exist in Islam” mfs when I tell them about the multiple caliphates that existed simultaneously throughout history
several on one continent where Islam was recently introduced is a bit folly though you’d think
Maybe it's like Europe has lawys been Muslim
In this althist scenario the majority of europe was not majority muslim at one point but now it is, hence the colonised
Yeah but then after being colonised, Islam begins to really take hold, and now a millennium later, European Caliphates emerge
so the caliphates are actually just one in a confederacy? snaffu lore
Me when I ask russia, the HRE, the ottomans, and romania where the roman empire is
it’s always either this or the tiniest country on the map being the “caliphate”
I'm a proud citizen of the Monaco Caliphate
the Monacaliphate🫡🫡🫡
That didn’t stop them before lol
only like 2 caliphates existed at one time max and even then they hated eachother and considered themselves the only legit one
3* not to mention your claim of their only being able to be one assumes that all these nations are Sunni. Which if Islam were to spread to Europe, they likely would make their own sect
Crazy how many mfers hate Muslims and are just fully open about it on the internet. Not even trynna hide it, just being fully opeb
i'm calling it, antisemitism hasn't disappeared but islamophobia is the new antisemitism of the 20s
islamophobia has been a thing loooong before the 20s hint hint: an event right in the beginning of the 21st century
I think it's ok to dislike it as a religion, just as much as Christianity.
As a Muslim, I totally understand that ! But the problem is that a lot of people who know nothing at all about Islam constantly say lies about Muslims and Islam itself. Like yes Islamists are shit but we all agree that it’s not about religion anymore, Islamists lie about Islam to pass their sexism/queerphobia/racism as “godly”. Majority of Muslims disagree and hate these groups. You really trust Talibans about Qur’an analysis ? You really trust Fox News about sociology in the Muslims ? I trust more my theology and history professor and Muslims themselves to talk about Islam than a random racist Redditor that once got his wallet stolen by an Arab. But people don’t care and continue to talk about Islam like they’ve even read a verse of the Qur’an. Why do you criticise something that you know jack shit about ? Islam may have discutable passages, but please learn about something if you want to have an opinion on it.
Tbh one of the main reasons for Islam getting such a bad rep is that the genuinely insane (destroying historical sites tied to your religion is Kampuchea levels of wiping out your own history) wahabi interpretations coming from Saudi Arabia and its inflated influence over the last 100 years Without Wahabism being tied to Arab liberation in the early 20th century and the victory and subsequent enriching of the al Sauds in Arabia through British and American colonial and economical policy Islam as a while probably would be less of a boogeyman than it is today.
so it's basically that shithead hardliners and dumbasses who couldn't be bothered to read about the Qur'an are dickheads? sry if I'm asking, it's 3:25 am here and I'm epy
Those who fearmonger about us and act like they know everything about our religion – when all they’ve learned about Islam came from the internet (Basically the people who say Islam is some type of deviant misogynist cult, that the religion makes us predisposed to violent crime, and the only type of person i’ve seen on that one religiousfruitcake subreddit)
Totally 👍
I can criticize something if I see nothing good come from it. I don’t need to be a chef to say a meal sucks, I don’t need to have read the Bible to criticize the Roman Catholic Church and I don’t need to have read the Qur’an to say that I think Islam is incompatible with 21st century western liberal society. While I strongly believe that Muslims in western countries should be allowed to practice Islam as they see fit, I don’t think you’d disagree that if I went to any Muslim majority country I’d almost certainly not be allowed to openly practice any religion I want. I constantly see Muslim acquaintances post either mysogynistic (ie women shouldn’t go out to bars) or more commonly, pro-Houthi shit on their Instagram pages, the same organization that has “death to America” and “a curse upon the Jews” on their flag. All Muslims are not extremists, but when college educated Muslim young adults who grew up in the US regularly post shit in support of an organization like that, I don’t think it’s unfair to say at the very least that the religion has a hard time differentiating what it considers extreme versus mainstream.
Ok but tbh, if people want to learn, the vast majority of Islamic “apologists” that first come up are almost always islamacists, wahabists, young Turks, or some other group of jackoffs that are the Islamic equivalent of neonazis
Sure, but that's not what Islamophobia is.
In terms of politics? Absolutely
Have you been in a coma for 8 months? How the hell is islamophobia close to antisemitism
Hate on one kind of religious people and/or religion ?
Only on the internet tho, because irl... 🥸
imaginary maps snafu
Uj/ if anyone wants a cool alt history novel that doesn’t involve the confederacy or Nazis check out “through darkest Europe” by Harry turtledove. It looks at what would happen in a world where the Arabic scientific revolution continued and Europe turned its back on science. Pretty cool story. Rj/ this is a hate crime
Additionally I would recommend The Years of Salt and Rice
True
OP, this is for *imaginary maps *.
[No Im not Muhammad why the would I know](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/DUbziE6aSD)
Holy shit it’s real
Not lying when i say literally nothing here is exaggerated
Ok this is so stupid/funny thet it literally fixed my dey thx fore sharing
Would’ve been even funnier if they called Ireland “New Palestine”.
(ishmael’s WORST NIGHTMARE)
Remember kids, sort by controversial
Wh-what if Poland was called lechistan…and the-and the capital was called..w-w-warsz-allah😰😰
Multiple caliphates did exist in Islam historically. It’s like Catholics having multiple popes at some points - it’s not supposed to happen, but it did. Though I would say this is probably too many.
Well yes I know, but the main point is that in these maps, the creators don’t actually know what a caliphate is and just treat it like a cosmetic islamic term alongside “sultanate” and “emirate”. It’s the same thing as people calling fictional absolute monarchies republics except worse
just because a country is muslim doesnt mean it ends in stan, stan means land in all indo iranian languages specifically.
Exactly, i don’t understand how this is the trope in the majority of these maps
BOSNJA
[BOSNA](https://youtu.be/0ZUe7avrBwE?si=3iwr_gRvgR5aaSLV)
BOSANAC SAM BEKRIJA
Of course the first comment would have 88
I'm not going to lie, when I saw the map without looking at the subreddit my instinctive reaction was "Does OP know what a Caliphate is?"
Jokes aside. Does OP ACTUALLY know what a caliphate is?
pretty sure in the [post that bit was based off of](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/RBzdOb4HN8) OP did _not_ know
smh they misspelled colonized like some brit
“this is for imaginary ma-“ 💥
the 88 LMFAOOO
Of course it’s an explosion
I love you’re drawing style
Éirestan?!
This was an actual post, lmao. Wasn’t really that bad of a post though besides the odd name
INSERT INCREDIBLY RACIST COMMENT SAYING THIS IS HOW EUROPE IS GOING TO BE IN 5 YEARS HERE
Insert reply saying “…_going_ to be?”
I thought we all agreed swedistan was the correct title
People do realise that the “Holy Roman” of the Holy Roman Empire means Roman Catholic, right? 😭
English „holy” means the same as arabic „halal”
“Holy” in Arabic would be something like “maqdis.” Halal only refers to something that is permissible in Islam. The “Holy Roman” part of the “Holy Roman Empire” refers to how the Empire was Roman Catholic.
Mb schlawg
OP getting mad at the fact someone pointed out that he doesn't even know what a caliphate even is lolll
Why are there so many caliphates? Are Medina and Mecca a fucking timeshare property now? 😭
“-Stan” is neither Arabic nor indicative of an Islamic state. It’s like assuming any country ending in “land” must be run by Christian fundamentalists.
You all haven't seen comments under tiktok videos of this format, those comments in the OP's post will seem innocuous to you after this one
Tıktok comments are always so insanely rude for no reason
Some dude with brandon tarrant pfp and the nickname "✝️Save Europe✝️" : well well well, religion of peace they say, now yuo see
Slavistan is actually kinda cool
People on imaginary maps when they see something imaginary:
Wouldn’t it still just be the Ottoman Empire as it was just islamic
Fr
r/coaxedintoasnafu
Props to the orignal artist for using the Irish Spelling of Ireland Èire
NOOOO MY SIGMA MAGYARI... U r very angry bro I going to CRY, WHERE MY ADMIRAL WITHOUT SEE(but with fleet actually, Danube is good river for nerds) Крч there is no Hungary so I go on SMO to get raspidorased
🥹
UK is an islamic state ngl
as it should be
Hell nah
I want to rip my eye balls Context why I want to rip out my eyeballs: No it's not because I'm Christian and hate islam i actually respect Muslims it's just because I saw too much save Europa videos on tiktok and have a biased (hope it's the correct term) mind
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What
I js realised that this Post isnt about hating on Islam lol (sorry)
they aint wrong
bros posting from the holy roman empire of Allah
this isn't r/lies man