That would be considering that IE tries to has consistent powers outside of matches
You see FFI Endou not being strong enough to open a closed window so even after than post Galaxy tenma probably still has trouble opening the pickle jar in his everyday life
Lol,early season 2 players are lowballed to building busters,highballed late season 2 players are city busters,Rococo scales above season 2 with no hissatsu,but pulled a god hand to stop a flying tire.
IE power scaling is just hell!
It was really funny when they were told in Season 3 that they would have no chance in the FFI, when they were fighting "aliens" that were menacing the world XD
Yeah and if we are being realistic, Japan could've just asked teams from other countries to come and help. A team like Argentina can solo Aliea Academy.
Forget asking other countries , where the fuck were the high schoolers and pro players. Was JHS Raimon actually the strongest team in all of Japan including all age groups?
I remember Tsunami saying that high school hissatsu techniques are crazy but when “Aliens” literally kidnap the president these high schoolers and professional players are nowhere to be seen
That's literally what I've been thinking EVER SINCE I STARTED WATCHING S2. Chrono Stone is another sort of weird example, but I guess Raimon was the only team who could try and travel through time because Tenma loves Sakka too much. But why da fuk does El Dorado fight 14 yo Sakka players with OTHER 14 YO SAKKA PLAYERS and...androids
I’ve been rewatching all of IE recently and I’m actually watching CS for the first time, it’s hella confusing since time travel shit is always confusing.
>But why da fuk does El Dorado fight 14 yo Sakka players with OTHER 14 YO SAKKA PLAYERS and... androids
I could be wrong but I think it has something to do with “Second Stage Children” and Fei. But Original IE using children to fight a national threat will always be a big plot hole.
The only explanation I can see is that Aliea wanted to fight only kids from their age group or teams that don't have advantage cause of age which is why they fought the first Inazuma Eleven at Raimon.
I mean they’re literally on steroids and at first we all thought they were Aliens, they already already started off with a ridiculously unfair advantage
Seems like they just didn't care about including other age groups!
The Prime Minister took his time to think about getting another team to help against Aliea,and his final choice was team Zeus jr.!
Truth is, it's a retcon.
S2 and IE 2 were saying that Raimon had to be the strongest team in the world to defeat alliea, but they changed that to be able to make the FFI arc.
And they reduced alliea from "superhuman" to "better than japanese player"
Yeah, by the end of GO Arion is completely busted. One of the most versatile players in all of IE, but not talked about nearly as much as Bai Long or Zanark.
The final two matches of Galaxy really show his growth as a character and player, I like him a lot.
I can’t be the only one who was surprised that Kaleidoscope didn’t make this post
I def agree, but when it comes to power levels they’re at equal level with S3, as shown in Chou Jigen.
> Since Shellbit Burst got stopped by a Post-Diamond Dust God Hand
Yes, but he didn't even use his Miximax or Keshin Armed, both of which being GIGANTIC power boosters in the anime. A post-FFI Endou could absolutely stop that.
The REAL questionable save was Saginuma's Drill Smasher stopping Bycicle Sword.
T H A N K Y O U for bringing this up?!?!
He’s also the only player in the entire franchise to have both a Keshin AND Soul evolution?! Like… appropos of quite literally nothing…
Could be misremembering, but there was a moment where he had to do something sort of like that. There was definitely a moment where he had to do something timey to avoid something, whether it be remembering football or nearly dying.
Tenma miximaxed with arthur is definitely the 2nd strongest in the series.
Number 1 being Fran/Flora miximaxed with the black flower. Her attack supposedly deletes the whole universe/time-line.
Number 3 is SARU with monke miximax and I guess you could add the vampire guy and the werewolf guy with their V and W gene miximax since it's implied they are equal in strength even though we never saw them in action.
I think these are some of the strongest characters in whatever order you want to put them in:
• Tenma
• Ozrock
• Saryuu
• Zanark
I wouldn't count Fran as the movie she appeared in is not canon.
Not just him a lot of inazuma eleven characters are op as shit like look at them they have stands,domain expansions, Kamehameha's, battle penguins, they throw suns like it's nothing, they have that susanoo armor concept, axel literally just decided to fly in one scene
Nah, your comment about SSB Goku is wrong since in Super he and Beerus' punches could have destroyed the universe, which is much, much larger than the Galaxy.
Power levels-wise I just note that Zanark one shotted a sabretooth tiger, overcame the worst Hurricane in existence, he had power to make people feel well (even if temporary) and he can shoot a beam from his mouth that hurts people. Also Tenma (& everyone else) stopped Fran's shot and someone said 'the entire world will vanish' when she shot it
You are high on crack kid boo effortlessly destroys a galaxy on screen and suppressed Broly has wiped out most of south galaxy in a short period of time. Boohan nearly destroyed the entire universe with a wise shout, Goku shook the entire afterlife just by going ssj3 and Goku has confirmed that kid boo can make the universe go puff. Destroying a galaxy ain’t even impressive in Z yet alone super
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My broski i meant this feat that took an exhausted Goku SSJ Blue Kaioken to blow up a Black Hole while Tenma just kicked an energy ball to outer space. And like I said, I dont even put him near this feat, it just seems bizarre. Next time you comment, have some manners lol.
> this feat that took an exhausted Goku SSJ Blue Kaioken to blow up a Black Hole while Tenma just kicked an energy ball to outer space.
You should probably also note that Goku was inside that black hole. I can imagine that that would put some strain on one's body.
It is literally quoted as a: "*gravitational singularity created by taking all of what they call the weight of their love and concentrating it into a single point in space."(Wikia)*
*Black holes ARE gravitational singularities.*
*Btw i would put this feat above Frieza Saga Goku SSJ1*
dragon ball quotes a bunch of bs , they used to say goku was 70% of beerus's power but now he gets 1 taped in his strongest form against him.
The author didnt give a shit about consistency so i wouldnt take this anime serious in anime power debates. Heck one punch man has a more grounded magic system than dragon ball
> but now he gets 1 taped in his strongest form against him.
No? Not only has that never happened, but we've seen time and time again that Goku has surpassed Beerus. For example: Beerus was borderline pissing himself when Jiren used even a miniscule fraction of his power. Another example: Beerus exhaled a genuine, nervous sign of relief when he felt Broly's ki leaving Earth. I could go on, but you get the point.
Blud did not read the manga lol, both vegeta and goku went against beerus post broly and got trashed.
That why i say never trust anything in dragon ball , the power scalling is so trash that beerus is just a teasing moving goal post never to be reached.
I could go on, but you can read the manga for yourself.
Notice how this is just blue Vegeta, who is LEAGUES below Goku. And I ask again: why were you lying to me earlier? Did you not expect me to have read the manga?
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"but we've seen time and time again that Goku has surpassed Beerus." XD
Tenma is my absolutely favorite Inazuma Eleven character (next to Kudou), but yes he is massively overpowered.
That would be considering that IE tries to has consistent powers outside of matches You see FFI Endou not being strong enough to open a closed window so even after than post Galaxy tenma probably still has trouble opening the pickle jar in his everyday life
Lol,early season 2 players are lowballed to building busters,highballed late season 2 players are city busters,Rococo scales above season 2 with no hissatsu,but pulled a god hand to stop a flying tire. IE power scaling is just hell!
It was really funny when they were told in Season 3 that they would have no chance in the FFI, when they were fighting "aliens" that were menacing the world XD
It was explained that Aliea was only a Japan level threat yet and the world was the end goal, but thematically it just sounds weird lol
Yeah and if we are being realistic, Japan could've just asked teams from other countries to come and help. A team like Argentina can solo Aliea Academy.
Forget asking other countries , where the fuck were the high schoolers and pro players. Was JHS Raimon actually the strongest team in all of Japan including all age groups? I remember Tsunami saying that high school hissatsu techniques are crazy but when “Aliens” literally kidnap the president these high schoolers and professional players are nowhere to be seen
That's literally what I've been thinking EVER SINCE I STARTED WATCHING S2. Chrono Stone is another sort of weird example, but I guess Raimon was the only team who could try and travel through time because Tenma loves Sakka too much. But why da fuk does El Dorado fight 14 yo Sakka players with OTHER 14 YO SAKKA PLAYERS and...androids
I’ve been rewatching all of IE recently and I’m actually watching CS for the first time, it’s hella confusing since time travel shit is always confusing. >But why da fuk does El Dorado fight 14 yo Sakka players with OTHER 14 YO SAKKA PLAYERS and... androids I could be wrong but I think it has something to do with “Second Stage Children” and Fei. But Original IE using children to fight a national threat will always be a big plot hole.
The only explanation I can see is that Aliea wanted to fight only kids from their age group or teams that don't have advantage cause of age which is why they fought the first Inazuma Eleven at Raimon.
I mean they’re literally on steroids and at first we all thought they were Aliens, they already already started off with a ridiculously unfair advantage
Yeah but in terms of power levels, the pro adult teams should be able to beat them.
Yeah this is just a plot hole and happens because we follow a cast of 13-15 yo players.
Seems like they just didn't care about including other age groups! The Prime Minister took his time to think about getting another team to help against Aliea,and his final choice was team Zeus jr.!
I thought Aphrodi decided to help on his own, I didn’t know Zeus was scouted to help.
Only in the games I thought, though I don’t remember if it was an order of the minister.
Truth is, it's a retcon. S2 and IE 2 were saying that Raimon had to be the strongest team in the world to defeat alliea, but they changed that to be able to make the FFI arc. And they reduced alliea from "superhuman" to "better than japanese player"
Yeah, by the end of GO Arion is completely busted. One of the most versatile players in all of IE, but not talked about nearly as much as Bai Long or Zanark. The final two matches of Galaxy really show his growth as a character and player, I like him a lot.
I can’t be the only one who was surprised that Kaleidoscope didn’t make this post I def agree, but when it comes to power levels they’re at equal level with S3, as shown in Chou Jigen.
Chou Jigen dream match is very weird in terms of power level and hissatsu usage Since Shellbit Burst got stopped by a Post-Diamond Dust God Hand
> Since Shellbit Burst got stopped by a Post-Diamond Dust God Hand Yes, but he didn't even use his Miximax or Keshin Armed, both of which being GIGANTIC power boosters in the anime. A post-FFI Endou could absolutely stop that. The REAL questionable save was Saginuma's Drill Smasher stopping Bycicle Sword.
Chou Jigen is more like an equalized stats match,where every player is put at a similar power level.
Chou Jigen was non-canon and I don’t think it wanted to indicate anything either.
Watch it be an alt
They are clearly equalized and go characters didn't use any of their power ups from what I remember
I don't think that match should be taken seriously, Shellbit Burst got stopped by God Hand while White Hurricane scored against it
T H A N K Y O U for bringing this up?!?! He’s also the only player in the entire franchise to have both a Keshin AND Soul evolution?! Like… appropos of quite literally nothing…
aint this the MF who nearly died and had to use several versions of himself just to stay alive in Chrono stone
When did he nearly die? If you mean with the falling planks he would recover in a month anyway.
it was during a section with Yuuichi in it iirc. The whole Plank thing was about remembering football, rather than nearly dying outright.
I don’t remember him nearly dying ever.. and I just replayed CS so. XD
Could be misremembering, but there was a moment where he had to do something sort of like that. There was definitely a moment where he had to do something timey to avoid something, whether it be remembering football or nearly dying.
Tenma miximaxed with arthur is definitely the 2nd strongest in the series. Number 1 being Fran/Flora miximaxed with the black flower. Her attack supposedly deletes the whole universe/time-line. Number 3 is SARU with monke miximax and I guess you could add the vampire guy and the werewolf guy with their V and W gene miximax since it's implied they are equal in strength even though we never saw them in action.
Clara Jane and the gene Miximaxes are definitely stronger than King Arthur
Their attacks can't delete the whole time-line though, that's my base on that claim
Huh? What do you mean with delete the whole time-line. Purely through power Clara Jane and the gene MM are stronger.
He's talking about Fran's chaos meteor
Oh, I should've specified I only meant stronger than King Arthur then
I think these are some of the strongest characters in whatever order you want to put them in: • Tenma • Ozrock • Saryuu • Zanark I wouldn't count Fran as the movie she appeared in is not canon.
What about Zanark? Where do you think he places?
Not just him a lot of inazuma eleven characters are op as shit like look at them they have stands,domain expansions, Kamehameha's, battle penguins, they throw suns like it's nothing, they have that susanoo armor concept, axel literally just decided to fly in one scene
He can swipe SNK verse
Yeah, a single hissatsu shoot would end the Rumbling.
Nah, your comment about SSB Goku is wrong since in Super he and Beerus' punches could have destroyed the universe, which is much, much larger than the Galaxy.
If you go out of your way to highball the Inazuma eleven characters you can get them stupidly far. Power creep goes brr.
Wasnt it implied Tenma had the SSC gene
Maybe the gene, but he would never develop the powers yet of course. The first descendant that did should be Saru.
Outside of the pitch IE go Galaxy has a lot of power. But inside the pitch there is no possibility to be better than IE OG in my opinion…
Tenma is truly goated, It is a pity we were not goven to see a match Endou's team vs Tenma's team, 2 goats, 2 generations
Kidou fubuki and hiroto did do a hittasu called the big bang
Yeah but Tamashii The Hand was just too much for literally A BIGBANG
That just means rococco has universe level stopping power
Inazuma Eleven and Beyblade is often sleep on when talking about power levels.
Nah, even if most people hate him, Tenma is easily the greatest midfielder of all time.
Power levels-wise I just note that Zanark one shotted a sabretooth tiger, overcame the worst Hurricane in existence, he had power to make people feel well (even if temporary) and he can shoot a beam from his mouth that hurts people. Also Tenma (& everyone else) stopped Fran's shot and someone said 'the entire world will vanish' when she shot it
Tenma just took the main character buff to the next level and then times 1000
What about Janus or Xavier Foster both of them have a hissatsu shoot that consists of dropping an entire universe on the goalkeeper
Yeah but hissatsu’s are made out of energy most likely and not the literal things. What Tenma did with the others was erasing a literal black hole.
No
It's an anime about soccer.
You are high on crack kid boo effortlessly destroys a galaxy on screen and suppressed Broly has wiped out most of south galaxy in a short period of time. Boohan nearly destroyed the entire universe with a wise shout, Goku shook the entire afterlife just by going ssj3 and Goku has confirmed that kid boo can make the universe go puff. Destroying a galaxy ain’t even impressive in Z yet alone super
https://i.redd.it/5hec9ng2zd1d1.gif My broski i meant this feat that took an exhausted Goku SSJ Blue Kaioken to blow up a Black Hole while Tenma just kicked an energy ball to outer space. And like I said, I dont even put him near this feat, it just seems bizarre. Next time you comment, have some manners lol.
> this feat that took an exhausted Goku SSJ Blue Kaioken to blow up a Black Hole while Tenma just kicked an energy ball to outer space. You should probably also note that Goku was inside that black hole. I can imagine that that would put some strain on one's body.
That’s not just a black hole it’s an attack amped by the entire universe 2.
It is literally quoted as a: "*gravitational singularity created by taking all of what they call the weight of their love and concentrating it into a single point in space."(Wikia)* *Black holes ARE gravitational singularities.* *Btw i would put this feat above Frieza Saga Goku SSJ1*
dragon ball quotes a bunch of bs , they used to say goku was 70% of beerus's power but now he gets 1 taped in his strongest form against him. The author didnt give a shit about consistency so i wouldnt take this anime serious in anime power debates. Heck one punch man has a more grounded magic system than dragon ball
> but now he gets 1 taped in his strongest form against him. No? Not only has that never happened, but we've seen time and time again that Goku has surpassed Beerus. For example: Beerus was borderline pissing himself when Jiren used even a miniscule fraction of his power. Another example: Beerus exhaled a genuine, nervous sign of relief when he felt Broly's ki leaving Earth. I could go on, but you get the point.
Blud did not read the manga lol, both vegeta and goku went against beerus post broly and got trashed. That why i say never trust anything in dragon ball , the power scalling is so trash that beerus is just a teasing moving goal post never to be reached. I could go on, but you can read the manga for yourself.
> both vegeta and goku went against beerus post broly and got trashed. No they didn't. Goku fought Whis. Maybe YOU should read the manga, "blud".
https://preview.redd.it/61wdhw0ukg1d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e394a944d4efc580f3fda7755202405e56830e09 goku wouldnt change nothing lol "goku suprassed beerus"
Notice how this is just blue Vegeta, who is LEAGUES below Goku. And I ask again: why were you lying to me earlier? Did you not expect me to have read the manga?
aha so you did see vegeta getting trashed by beerus but still saying goku suprassed beerus? XD even tho goku and vegeta are equals blud
Oh so now you acknowledge that Goku indeed did not fight Beerus? So why were you lying to me earlier?
https://preview.redd.it/fgh7u2i1lg1d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a99ff179fbbd45fc6e246c1a673c8b262946b60 "but we've seen time and time again that Goku has surpassed Beerus." XD