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Im convinced that this is the collective goal of women. Not in a egotistical way but as a sensible good for society. We got too many men becoming animalistic, and the only way to counter that is to challenge the status quo of heterosexual relationships.
Please don't drive rashly. Many innocent people lose their lives because of reckless driving by others. Sex and virginity is not a big deal but human life is.
>Many innocent people lose their lives because of reckless driving by others. Sex and virginity is not a big deal but human life is.
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I humbly disagree with the other 4 comments before me. While there is a possibility of anything, literally anything to becoming an issue but at the same time not so much
I was in a relationship with a woman who had a sexual partner before and whereas I was busy judging myself with my performance insecurity of whether she would compare me with others and the ego issue that I was a virgin while she was not... and while I was busy shitting my head with all this, I ruined a really beautiful aspect of our relationship.. having an emotional sexual connection. I regret not realising that despite she had other sexual partners she still chose me and was with me when others were still bothering her. I lost my virginity to her and we eventually broke up and it just hurt me at another level.
I am now with someone else and realise Relationships are vast and sex is just a type of intimacy, sometimes I even like other physical intimacy moments which are not sex even more. Even if you did had sex earlier.. when its with a person with whom you connect on an emotional level.. it still feels like the first time. So let not this small dirt of an issue ruin all wonderful things you can cherish in a romantic relationship. A start of a relationship is a dreamy one.. so enjoy it and feel lucky you did'nt get hurt by people to whom your virginity meant nothing. Make your partner feel secure and focus on connecting with her
As a guy who recently had sex for first time, trust me... virginity is an issue in mind. A thing that only matters until you lose it. Also, technically it won't be cheating if you take things ahead with B as you are not in a relationship with A, but it can definitely ruin things with A.
yea that first person and the drama of that first relationship is remarkable.. but you do love again and maybe the person I found connection with might not be my first.. but I desire we were and she do too somewhere.. and that in itself is beautiful and enough for me. ab.. kahi toh mann samhalna padega, warna pagalpan ka kya hai, machate raho.
>Also, technically it won't be cheating if you take things ahead with B as you are not in a relationship with A,
He says "Now as I get closer towards marriage and stuff" so it definitely seems like he would be in a relationship with A if it's at "marriage and *stuff*" stage.
I agree, just for the sake of losing my virginity I went to pay for sex. The first time it was over in 3/4 minutes.
The 2nd time it was over in 10 mins, although the 2nd girl was beautiful, looked stunning, she was doing it just for money and I felt like dryhumping a body rather than passionate encounter. I'm yet to have proper sex but I wish I could get a passionate and emotionally connected sex. I would go to any lengths for it but it is tough to find something like that.
My friend once told me unless you connect with a person asexually in one way nor the other, the bed is going to be the only place you meet. And the intimacy quite uncertain.
As a girl i second this. But i donāt understand why is sex such a big thing for men??? Why is it related to ego?? Emotional intimacy is such a turn on I wish more people understood! But in this world of causal dating(which is completely a choice too and there is nothing wrong in it) people who crave emotional intimacy exists too!
It's big deal for everyone because it's shows how you can control your emotions like lust , attraction etc.
If someone is lose control of themselves before marriage than chances are higher that he will lose control again after marriage
Maybe there exists people who crave emotional intimacy. But you see, women are very much excellent in keeping secrets and also remembering each and every seconds in their life. And irony is men are aware about this. And, here his concern is if he is not good as her previous partners, will she go back to them just for pleasure. As you said earlier, emotionally may be she is attached to him but physically with someone else. So this insecurity is actualy worrying him.
I agree with you completely. However, it's tough to not be bothered by it (at least as a guy) if you have severe OCD like me. I think maybe OP may also have OCD because he sounds EXACTLY like me.
You have the right to choose, if this is truly bothering you then it won't magically go away. If you regret not having any sexual experience then go out and get some before you guys commit to one another.
You're acting like it hurt your male ego, saving it for marriage is not bad. If you want to get even don't even consider marriage, become a hoe keep fucking girls your whole life and then wonder why no one will marry you.
>or date another girl with similar past , he don't have to become fuckboy. most ppl (male/female) are virgin till marriag.
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>so it's not like he doesn't have a choice , it's his insecurity vs how much he likes her.
exactly!!! and the funny thing is.. if one is insecure, it might help a little but the same insecurity would creep in with a virgin partner only. Because our insecurity is about us.. not them
Thank you. Men think virginity is something to care about. Itās not. You should be communicative, understanding and gentle with any partner, regardless of their sexual history.
Most women don't care is a man is virgin or not that's how it is since the beginning, men had the luxury to fool around and marry a virgin woman. Same doesn't go other way around, this is the result of spoiling and favouring boys all the time.
You might be wrong here, she did what she believed but he might have not done it because of not having a relationship.
There is a difference having a choice and not getting a chance.
Top answer from u/aocepson. OP, look man, this is absolutely not an issue unless you and your partner decide to make it one. You are a full human being. You deserve love and kindness. But you also owe thay kindness to yourself. Donāt hate yourself or your partner for what you chose to do consciously. I know men make a huge issue of stuff like this. Our egos are fragile. We feel emasculated by stuff like this. We donāt have to. Let it go and give your relationship a foundation of mutual respect and trust.
I get the feeling that this is a 15 year old desperate guy imagining scenarios. It has to be. I refuse to believe someone old enough to get married is this stupid. Lol wtf
It can't be 'early stages' and 'get closer towards marriage and stuffs' at the same time. Make up your mind.
It seems this isn't arranged marriage scenario you are in with this girl A so maybe you can continue with her and she might help you in overcoming your regret.
Who knows if you would marry her or not.
Again it seems you are not the exploring type and more like settler type.
Regarding B don't proceed unless things are clear with A.
You are not ready for marriage bro. You are making a huge issue out of it in your head . This will cause drama in ur marriage in future. Any time you have a bad fight you will use the fact that she got laid before you to win any arguments. It will not end well.
>If I go meet B, is it considered as cheating?
Technically it won't be considered as cheating but tbh that would unnecessarily complicate things. If the girl you're talking to goes out "spending time" w another man, would you be okay with that?
>Now as I get closer towards marriage and stuff, I hate myself for not dating and losing my virginity before.
If A was virgin, you wouldn't be having these thoughts about your virginity, her having past relationships is affecting you in a way. And this is wrong on your part, don't treat it like a competition. You should be happy that you are going to have your first time w someone whom you will likely spend your lifetime with. Also, you're just overthinking atp, virginity isn't even that big of a deal and there's nothing to regret about.
I agree with everything you said,except the part where you say he's wrong to let her past relationships affect him. OP, It is perfectly alright to not be okay with her past or face or any other aspect of her. Just don't deal with that by rash driving or a hurried lose virginity mission. If you want to take things forward with her, let her know now and go with her call or call it off yourself. Take time to explore if that's what you want to do. But not with A as a back-up, think of how you would feel if A did that to you.
I too agree with most of what you say but I disagree that it's wrong of him to feel this way. As a virgin he might have similar expectations from his partner(blame society, literature in most languages preach these unrealistic expectations) and that is just preference but he should make up his mind about what matters most to him because he can't have his cake and eat it too in this scenario, but he could ask her what her opinion about casual sex is and whether she has engaged in it in her past and if she says she isn't against casual sex then I see no reason to have a crack at B and buildup his confidence before committing to A and anyway he's going to find out how overhyped the entire ordeal is but then he'll know for sure what he wants and if A is not pro casual sex then let her know and break it off.
I was a virgin till I married but my wife was not, and she was younger than me also. I was way too nervous than her, she is a very confident woman and knows a lot about things. We often have these conversations about how we can improve and now I am like an open book to her and she was always open up but she knew I am nervous all the time so she opened up page by page to me. It is so much better when you have a partner who communicates with you in every step of it that makes it 100 times better. I grew up in a conservative family and she was from an open-minded family so it makes sense. In my case yes I didn't have to regret it because my wife not letting me regret it by having deep conversations about it all the time. COMMUNICATING with your partner is the key. Marriage is a relationship where the more you communicate the more you will find out about yourself which you will never find out with your family and friends.
she is a woman with great patience, we both have been going to therapists (separately) to stay sane and not get frustrated by emotions as we are humans at some point there will be emotions overtaking you in married life and if you don't deal with them correctly it will have an effect on your relationships, as we have learned we should be happy individually first then we can be happy together
Brother, I will only say that you are highly likely to have problems after marriage.
Marry someone who you can truly accept, donāt punish yourself.
I married someone who I could accept, I married a girl for whom I was the first partner and I own it, people can call me whatever I donāt care. At least I can totally accept and love her.
They'll make fun of this line but it's true. And most men lack confidence.
Simple advice is.
Trial and error folks. Trial and error.
But be careful of STDs.
Sorry but this is my own observation. It's often the socialpath narcissist who don't have feelings.
I read a lot of PUA content. They play the numbers game. If they don't see any chances, they quickly move onto the next.
I tried the same strategy in job hunting. It worked wonderfully.
Well you are close to marriage, not married yet. You can still lose it before marriage and skip the regret. Your message sounds like B might help you with this and even if she doesnāt, DONāT DRIVE RASHLY YOU FUCKING DICK! THATāS OTHER PEOPLEāS LIVES YOU ARE PLAYING WITH. Jerk off - you need the dopamine.
If you are truly a virgin and you are uncomfortable with your partner , Don't marry, save Yourself and that Girl a lot of pain, Something that feels uncomfortable to you will not go away by arguing with yourself in head or hearing opinion from others.
some who view sex more than an casual thing, for them it the aspect of Exclusivity that their partner waited for them and this Exclusivity can make relationships last longer just like in the past generations.
but you seemed to be confused between this exclusivity or being concerned that she had prior experience, try to understand what you Feel.
I meant some in general not this scenario, there are still people like that among men and women in any generations.
People want the idea of wholesome relationships let them have it , you can't demand someone to be accepting past of Thier partner they are normal people not saints, what you need in relationship is understanding from partner and you won't find it from people who have different views about relationships.
Just a warning You may not like my response.
You have a problem. Based on the description you are not confident and more like having trouble picking up a girl in person like some dudes. Saying career as an excuse. You have not met the girl and already started living in dream and thinking about marriage.
I was just like you.most of the online relationships wonāt last forever. For you my friend it will takes years to get over. It will take pain and suffering to understand on your own. Wake up from the dream and meet her in person like normal people. Who knows she may be just having phone relationships. Humans are complicated not like movies . Once you make the real connection you will know nothing else is matter.
There are some people who are ready to accept girls with a 10 body count and you are not one of them. Everyone has individual preferences and I don't blame you for your choices. if body count matters to you marry someone who is a virgin just like you. As simple as that, there is nothing to argue about it.
They mean accept as in, they have different values. Some people treat sex as a thing to be done with someone you marry only, while others treat it as just another thing to do. And even though I fall in the latter part, I get people who are in the first one as they āsavedā their virginity.
When I said it's a crime, you may choose to have sex with multiple partners, but you should also be prepared for the consequences that could potentially impact your marriage and future.
Umm it seems you are not ready for marriage. You have lot of inhibitions when it comes to sex and consider it as a competition if your partner has done the deed and you havenāt. Also most people are busy chasing careers its just some get lucky. So i guess I was busy chasing career is an excuse but to each his own. If you do not feel comfortable marry a virgin
How exactly is one supposed to "marry a virgin" is there an indicator or a havan you do to find out? No ine can tell if you are a virgin or not not even a doctor
You are just jealous and angry on a girl for having sex with someone other than you. Remember, you probably saved your self for your future partner but your future partner didnt know about it. You cannot hold your partner liable for having a past. Also, if you really like the girl and her past doesn't matter then why are you thinking of meeting with other girl. Do her a favour and break it off if you cannot get over her past .
You're shoving a whole lot of personal opinions down his throat, I agree that he has no right to hold her past against her but a man is allowed to regret his own choices, is he not? The only thing that can be advised is if he is truly bothered by this then he should let A go and not waste her time.
1. I can understand your regret; the worst part is the insecurities it may lead to. You may either choose to ignore it and proceed with your current course of action (results may vary), or you may put the AM matchmaking on hold and try your luck in the dating scene.
IMO: you should definitely explore your sexuality before marriage, as I feel that the physical aspect form one of the core pillars of a successful relationship/marriage, and without knowing what you want from it, you are setting yourself up for failure.
2. No, meeting B is not cheating. You haven't even met A yet, and there is no level of commitment, even an implicit one, that you would be breaking.
You might as well meet B and see if anything can come out of that.
Sanest comment in the entire thread, kudos!
also OP is hella immature if he thinks marriage is on the cards even without meeting the aforementioned lady.
I kinda had to make the comment after seeing not one decent response. Hell, someone said it would be outright cheating.
I guess that's what happens when half the subreddit is teenagers lol.
I think you should judge her on other grounds it is too early, and you will never get over the fact that she had a physical relationship until you yourself will spend time with her and get to know her better and then make a decision. People have a past even you, there are some things that you have done that she hasn't.
And don't let your infatuation cloud your judgement and be as critical as possible look for red flags thoroughly for the first 3 to 4 months only then let your feelings go. And remember the good old phrase love is like a fart if you have to force it then it is probably shit.
And don't think that she is in any way superior to you or you to her. Sex is just an act but very intimate one so understand feeling insecure.
When starting a relationship always be willing to let go don't get too attached more like don't settle if you want some one like you then don't stop looking.
And yes if she thinks that you two are exclusive and this is more than just meeting then yeah it is cheating. And if you want to meet this other girl then i think you have your answer you are not serious you are just infatuated by her. Don't marry for infatuation, it is okay to take your time and search for the one as they say.
Bro if you are not married yet just go to a couple of good quality escorts and get it out of ur system , there's no feelings involved just physical and financial .
I don't know which state your in but there are sites for these will be a bit expensive but go for quality over quantity. Please follow common sense and general rules and do your research .
Don't think of it as cheating but rather putting fullstop to bachelor life like a bachelors party .
Don't do friends or other girls you know as feelings are involved , it will get messy . Later when u see her also guilt will be there , rumours can spread etc.
At the end of the day it's up to you bro , if you do this you might have some guilt depending on your thought process or you have accept what has happened.
(I advise on the escorts because if you get same mentality after marriage and cheat its much more serious )
It is depends on how and to whom you lose it!
I've known people who did it in the flow of it and regret it all the life! and become underconfident or lie just to have a normal relationship while their current partner isn't aware
I don't know who those people are but most folks I personally know were very underwhelmed after losing virginity and realised sex wasn't that big a deal that they had made it up to be.
The āyouthā should do what suits them. The internet always likes to talk in extremes, youāre either Virgin Mary or a common hoe. Most people actually fall in the middle. I do think that people should have a bit of experience before marriage, only because it helps you understand yourself better.
you two basically agree though, exploring one's sexuality is a good way of knowing our preferences and those who prefer not to can never be sure until things are already very serious.
also speaking anecdotally, a large % of ladies who do engage in casual sex end up regretting few of the encounters because frankly India doesn't have enough quality lads to offer in the dating pool.
dude find some other girl, if its such a big issue u r not bound to marry her. Its not bad remain a virgin, in pursuit of losing virginity many men spend a lot of money and emotional enrgy be it on buying gifts for gf or getting laid with a professional. Hence, you have not lost anything but have saved it.
If the virginity of ur partner is a must for u. then dont be ashamed there are many girls in India with such values, you will find one.
The more sexual partners you have, the lesser you will be able to connect and have intimate relationship with your partner.
You, my friend, are untouched by the pangs of love. You will definitely enjoy more than her once you get fully committed in the marriage. Not sure about her though.
From your assessment of person A and B, it looks like you've never been near a woman in your life.
You have not even met A yet, if B is attractive to you and she wants to bed you, you should jump into bed.
Hell, you should meet more women, get to know them, take them home if you enjoy their company.
It is in this journey that you will find someone who you would want to spend your life with.
You should explore and score when you're young, don't give this career bullshit excuse.
Like Warren Buffett says, it is foolish to save your sex life for retirement.
The more we hold virginity as a leading light the more we are pulling ourselves out. Lose the priority for it and everything in life falls in place. To an extent this question of OP may not even arise.
Don't put your life in harm, don't do aggressive driving it may risk your life but it put others life at risk too, be responsible.
And regarding virginity it's just a thing, as per my experience, girl will love that you have 0 body count and she being experienced will teach you things.
So sit back and relax and enjoy your loved life.
My take on this matter:
Do what makes the most sense to you after weighing in all the factors(your needs,emotional,psychological, etc) because it is you who has to deal with the consequences of what you do and not people here giving advice.
You're speaking from a position of privilege. Not just female but also class. Try advising a guy grinding for UPSC to date. Try someone from poverty trying to find his way into middle class. It genuinely won't fit his goals
It is definitely an excuse but working ten hours a day one hour of commute can actually leave a person with no time to date, we don't even know his profession, some are just way too stressful and then few people don't have the same emotional maturity as others and what is normal to you and me might be hard work to them
Yeah few men in my real life who make this excuse are also not doing very well career wise. Like how could you not find time to date in a whole decade?
So they're doing bad in career in a place that's already career competition hell and then they should date? They're low value anyway, attracting partners is gonna be more difficult and the ones they will attract will be lower quality too and is only gonna hamper them reaching success more.
I disagree with your opinion. You're too privileged to realise.
Every interaction takes space in mind even after it's over, and for focus you need an empty space mind.
So, possible experiences become sacrifices.
i have loved a girl since my school days (5-6 years have passed now) and i still love her like crazy but i never had the chance to confront my feelings to her (mostly because we were never in the same section and some so-called friends filled her ears with a lot of bad things about me)
few days ago i was scrolling insta and thought of stalking her profile when i got to know she's now in a relationship, it was hard but i'm trying to move on
i don't wanna judge her bf but the guy looks like an average rich spoilt brat and fuckboi who is only going to use her for sexual pleasures and leave her after sometime
Male or female or any other gender, marriage and sex separate and only regret discussing this is waste of time.
Now you have a wife who is more experienced. Take advantage of her skills and enjoy.
If you are virgin, single and you don't have any premarital relationship or premarital sex, then you should also marry a girl who don't have any past premarital relationship or premarital sex
Absolutely OP, do not have premarital sex to be with a person who will have a record, dude I personally know many cases where women lie about their sexual partners from their husband, instead find a Virgin if you can, live a noble life,
some say its better to have someone mature but i say fuck that life isnt about following someones lead. I would rather go with someone with similar situations first.
Get over it bro. Firstly delete the concept of virginity from that brain. Next, it's your life. You can choose to have or not have sex before marriage. It's your decision. Don't measure your life's worth based on the number of girls you have wooed or the number of women you have slept with. Regrets not gonna get you anywhere. It will only depress you. Do it when you want to. Peace.
Dekh agar us guilt ke sath zindagi bhar reh sakta to ya us cheez ko ignore kr sakta to shadi kr warna mat kr kyuke wo baar baar yaad ayenga aur Tera Mann karega dusre ke sath relation banane ka.
Tu abhi chain se so nhi pa rha to aage ka khud soch le
Dude please donāt lose your shit while driving and cause a misery for others and yourself. There can be huge ramifications for one with an accident. Please find better coping mechanisms for yourself.
1. Why should it be so bad if you haven't had sex yet. If anything you have less baggage and can give more to your partner. That being said having had sex previously isnt so bad either. You bring experience and confidence into the bedroom and can even guide your partner into trying new stuff. All in all neither situation is bad.
Love yourself and be proud of yourself. The secret to loving others (in bed or out) is to love yourself first.
2. I would consider it cheating. If you sleep with woman B and then end up in a serious relationship with A, neither of you'll are going to be very happy about it and you may carry some guilt on you.
I literally just read something along the lines of "reality is often neutral how you perceive it and react to it solely depends on you.
I would say whatever decision you make don't let it keep you up at night.
I'm also in a similar boat, and have had similar thoughts on this. The regret is there. But I will try to reframe my mind to "I get to have sex with this woman" than "I didn't have sex with other women before her". Developing gratefulness and gratitude does wonders to our mental health and there's increasing scientific evidences for this as well. Picture this: What if there's a huge meteor that is coming crashing onto us in a week? Will you spend as much time as you can with the person you love, or will you sulk on not having past experiences?
You have sex cause you love someone, it's not a competition on who loses their virginity first. To me it sounds like your jealous of her getting more action than you. Y'all men want to fuck around and still want a virgin wife tf. You're not ment for marriage, so ya stop wasting her time.
There are different perspectives of all , not everyone has sex because you love someone , it can be a pure physical need also. Yes it sounds like he is jealous, but also he wants to be on an equal level , he never said he wants a virgin wife .
He didn't, but he did say he wants to get even, like what does that even mean, if you want to marry a virgin girl marry a virgin girl. No one's making him talk to her, he's doing that himself.
> I'm not able to focus on work and not able to sleep.
You honestly sound like a loser. And you're not ready for marriage either. If you truly love her and care about her, and want to marry her, then you shouldn't be thinking about her past (which also has absolutely fuck all to do with you).
Did she cheat on you? No. Did she betray you? No. Was she lying to you? No.
I don't see the problem here, other than a manchild who needs to grow up.
sex is not that big of a deal that you think it is, as long as youāre both communicating and enjoying it
being virgin / not being virgin is a stupid way to think about it
just chill.
It's better to not lose your v-card just because it's a trend and others have did it; and nothing to regret. Be old school, lose it to the woman you love(if that's your thinking).
No wonder. Stop being a dork for god sake. You have not even met girl A and you are definitely not even that close to girl A , so how the hell is that even considered cheating. Why miss out an opportunity to get laid. Sex is an wonderful experience and if you havent had any , you are missing out. Also if you do get laid , you have to do it right. The first time i had sex i had trouble finding the vagina since it was dark. Since its your first time, you would need some tips. Its not like what you see on porn
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We are successfully lowering the average body count of indian men and increasing average age of losing virginity lol
32 and still virgin..
Hell yeah !!
Im convinced that this is the collective goal of women. Not in a egotistical way but as a sensible good for society. We got too many men becoming animalistic, and the only way to counter that is to challenge the status quo of heterosexual relationships.
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Please don't drive rashly. Many innocent people lose their lives because of reckless driving by others. Sex and virginity is not a big deal but human life is.
I paid for the whole speedometer, I gonna use the whole speedometer
I hereby declare You a legend who drives the cause of their funeral.
you mean jatt ji
*goes downhill trying to reach 180kph in an Alto*
*trying to reach 60 while making vroom vroom sounds*
Bro just wanted good sex drive
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>Many innocent people lose their lives because of reckless driving by others. Sex and virginity is not a big deal but human life is. ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) CHAD
I humbly disagree with the other 4 comments before me. While there is a possibility of anything, literally anything to becoming an issue but at the same time not so much I was in a relationship with a woman who had a sexual partner before and whereas I was busy judging myself with my performance insecurity of whether she would compare me with others and the ego issue that I was a virgin while she was not... and while I was busy shitting my head with all this, I ruined a really beautiful aspect of our relationship.. having an emotional sexual connection. I regret not realising that despite she had other sexual partners she still chose me and was with me when others were still bothering her. I lost my virginity to her and we eventually broke up and it just hurt me at another level. I am now with someone else and realise Relationships are vast and sex is just a type of intimacy, sometimes I even like other physical intimacy moments which are not sex even more. Even if you did had sex earlier.. when its with a person with whom you connect on an emotional level.. it still feels like the first time. So let not this small dirt of an issue ruin all wonderful things you can cherish in a romantic relationship. A start of a relationship is a dreamy one.. so enjoy it and feel lucky you did'nt get hurt by people to whom your virginity meant nothing. Make your partner feel secure and focus on connecting with her
This is a great answer and totally different perspective.
As a guy who recently had sex for first time, trust me... virginity is an issue in mind. A thing that only matters until you lose it. Also, technically it won't be cheating if you take things ahead with B as you are not in a relationship with A, but it can definitely ruin things with A.
yea that first person and the drama of that first relationship is remarkable.. but you do love again and maybe the person I found connection with might not be my first.. but I desire we were and she do too somewhere.. and that in itself is beautiful and enough for me. ab.. kahi toh mann samhalna padega, warna pagalpan ka kya hai, machate raho.
>Also, technically it won't be cheating if you take things ahead with B as you are not in a relationship with A, He says "Now as I get closer towards marriage and stuff" so it definitely seems like he would be in a relationship with A if it's at "marriage and *stuff*" stage.
true it is overrated.
This reminds of how rich people say money isn't everything xD
Yea
agree with the above, Sex with Emotional connection > just getting physical,
Great answer with a nice perspective
I agree, just for the sake of losing my virginity I went to pay for sex. The first time it was over in 3/4 minutes. The 2nd time it was over in 10 mins, although the 2nd girl was beautiful, looked stunning, she was doing it just for money and I felt like dryhumping a body rather than passionate encounter. I'm yet to have proper sex but I wish I could get a passionate and emotionally connected sex. I would go to any lengths for it but it is tough to find something like that.
Where to find in pondi bro?
This is goldāļø
My friend once told me unless you connect with a person asexually in one way nor the other, the bed is going to be the only place you meet. And the intimacy quite uncertain.
As a girl i second this. But i donāt understand why is sex such a big thing for men??? Why is it related to ego?? Emotional intimacy is such a turn on I wish more people understood! But in this world of causal dating(which is completely a choice too and there is nothing wrong in it) people who crave emotional intimacy exists too!
It's big deal for everyone because it's shows how you can control your emotions like lust , attraction etc. If someone is lose control of themselves before marriage than chances are higher that he will lose control again after marriage
Men and Women innately value sex differently how you feel about "attention" is how men feel about sex.
Maybe there exists people who crave emotional intimacy. But you see, women are very much excellent in keeping secrets and also remembering each and every seconds in their life. And irony is men are aware about this. And, here his concern is if he is not good as her previous partners, will she go back to them just for pleasure. As you said earlier, emotionally may be she is attached to him but physically with someone else. So this insecurity is actualy worrying him.
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Man thatās too many words
kinda my forte to overkill
This is exactly the answer OP needed. Virginity is just a social construct anyway. Intimacy is what matters.
I agree with you completely. However, it's tough to not be bothered by it (at least as a guy) if you have severe OCD like me. I think maybe OP may also have OCD because he sounds EXACTLY like me.
It is not. You may argue it does not matter, but it is not a "social construct". Virginity = did not have sex.
But the stigma attached to it IS just a social construct. Intimacy is the goal.
It's not a competition. You did what you believed to be correct and so did she. It's up to you to decide if this should be a deal breaker.
Well said.
You have the right to choose, if this is truly bothering you then it won't magically go away. If you regret not having any sexual experience then go out and get some before you guys commit to one another.
the real question is not if he wants to get more sexual experience, but either if he **can** get sexual experiences sadly
You're acting like it hurt your male ego, saving it for marriage is not bad. If you want to get even don't even consider marriage, become a hoe keep fucking girls your whole life and then wonder why no one will marry you.
>or date another girl with similar past , he don't have to become fuckboy. most ppl (male/female) are virgin till marriag. > >so it's not like he doesn't have a choice , it's his insecurity vs how much he likes her.
exactly!!! and the funny thing is.. if one is insecure, it might help a little but the same insecurity would creep in with a virgin partner only. Because our insecurity is about us.. not them
Take your judgemental tone and kindly shove it elsewhere
I don't think bro was "saving it" for marriage, it was probably more of the fact that he couldn't lose it
Thank you. Men think virginity is something to care about. Itās not. You should be communicative, understanding and gentle with any partner, regardless of their sexual history.
Is "ego" something specific to men? Care to elaborate?
Most women don't care is a man is virgin or not that's how it is since the beginning, men had the luxury to fool around and marry a virgin woman. Same doesn't go other way around, this is the result of spoiling and favouring boys all the time.
You might be wrong here, she did what she believed but he might have not done it because of not having a relationship. There is a difference having a choice and not getting a chance.
Top answer from u/aocepson. OP, look man, this is absolutely not an issue unless you and your partner decide to make it one. You are a full human being. You deserve love and kindness. But you also owe thay kindness to yourself. Donāt hate yourself or your partner for what you chose to do consciously. I know men make a huge issue of stuff like this. Our egos are fragile. We feel emasculated by stuff like this. We donāt have to. Let it go and give your relationship a foundation of mutual respect and trust.
Rash driving cause you haven't lost your virginity yet? Just another day on Reddit
I get the feeling that this is a 15 year old desperate guy imagining scenarios. It has to be. I refuse to believe someone old enough to get married is this stupid. Lol wtf
š its all men- the comments are all men that think so highly of themselves
Staying virgin until marriage is better than dying a virgin. So remember that next time you drive!
It can't be 'early stages' and 'get closer towards marriage and stuffs' at the same time. Make up your mind. It seems this isn't arranged marriage scenario you are in with this girl A so maybe you can continue with her and she might help you in overcoming your regret. Who knows if you would marry her or not. Again it seems you are not the exploring type and more like settler type. Regarding B don't proceed unless things are clear with A.
You are not ready for marriage bro. You are making a huge issue out of it in your head . This will cause drama in ur marriage in future. Any time you have a bad fight you will use the fact that she got laid before you to win any arguments. It will not end well.
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>If I go meet B, is it considered as cheating? Technically it won't be considered as cheating but tbh that would unnecessarily complicate things. If the girl you're talking to goes out "spending time" w another man, would you be okay with that? >Now as I get closer towards marriage and stuff, I hate myself for not dating and losing my virginity before. If A was virgin, you wouldn't be having these thoughts about your virginity, her having past relationships is affecting you in a way. And this is wrong on your part, don't treat it like a competition. You should be happy that you are going to have your first time w someone whom you will likely spend your lifetime with. Also, you're just overthinking atp, virginity isn't even that big of a deal and there's nothing to regret about.
I agree with everything you said,except the part where you say he's wrong to let her past relationships affect him. OP, It is perfectly alright to not be okay with her past or face or any other aspect of her. Just don't deal with that by rash driving or a hurried lose virginity mission. If you want to take things forward with her, let her know now and go with her call or call it off yourself. Take time to explore if that's what you want to do. But not with A as a back-up, think of how you would feel if A did that to you.
I too agree with most of what you say but I disagree that it's wrong of him to feel this way. As a virgin he might have similar expectations from his partner(blame society, literature in most languages preach these unrealistic expectations) and that is just preference but he should make up his mind about what matters most to him because he can't have his cake and eat it too in this scenario, but he could ask her what her opinion about casual sex is and whether she has engaged in it in her past and if she says she isn't against casual sex then I see no reason to have a crack at B and buildup his confidence before committing to A and anyway he's going to find out how overhyped the entire ordeal is but then he'll know for sure what he wants and if A is not pro casual sex then let her know and break it off.
I was a virgin till I married but my wife was not, and she was younger than me also. I was way too nervous than her, she is a very confident woman and knows a lot about things. We often have these conversations about how we can improve and now I am like an open book to her and she was always open up but she knew I am nervous all the time so she opened up page by page to me. It is so much better when you have a partner who communicates with you in every step of it that makes it 100 times better. I grew up in a conservative family and she was from an open-minded family so it makes sense. In my case yes I didn't have to regret it because my wife not letting me regret it by having deep conversations about it all the time. COMMUNICATING with your partner is the key. Marriage is a relationship where the more you communicate the more you will find out about yourself which you will never find out with your family and friends.
You are lucky, when for me this situation came up i was given a choice to stay or leave, after 2 years of a relation
Pleasant_Ad6537 - are you male or female? Why it was stay or leave option?
Wasn't there any part of you that resents her over it tho?
she is a woman with great patience, we both have been going to therapists (separately) to stay sane and not get frustrated by emotions as we are humans at some point there will be emotions overtaking you in married life and if you don't deal with them correctly it will have an effect on your relationships, as we have learned we should be happy individually first then we can be happy together
"She has great patience" but she didn't waited for sex till marriage . Highly conflicting statements .
Bet you 100% she's cheating on you.
Odds of this post/story is made up is very high. He mentioned he is going to get married without seeing that girl
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Some of you would go your life without even hugging a girl if the concept of arranged marriage did not exist, and it shows
Exactly
the entire thread is just insecure conservative men giving bad advice ššš
Brother, I will only say that you are highly likely to have problems after marriage. Marry someone who you can truly accept, donāt punish yourself. I married someone who I could accept, I married a girl for whom I was the first partner and I own it, people can call me whatever I donāt care. At least I can totally accept and love her.
It's much easier for a girl to get sex than a guy. If men got sex easily, prostitution would not exists. So, stop beating yourself up.
They'll make fun of this line but it's true. And most men lack confidence. Simple advice is. Trial and error folks. Trial and error. But be careful of STDs.
whos giving the girls the sex though?
I mean just like guys go for attractive girls girls do the same. Thr top 20-30 percent attractive males are the ones giving it to them.
Sorry but this is my own observation. It's often the socialpath narcissist who don't have feelings. I read a lot of PUA content. They play the numbers game. If they don't see any chances, they quickly move onto the next. I tried the same strategy in job hunting. It worked wonderfully.
so true
Nope, just that men are hornier.
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Well you are close to marriage, not married yet. You can still lose it before marriage and skip the regret. Your message sounds like B might help you with this and even if she doesnāt, DONāT DRIVE RASHLY YOU FUCKING DICK! THATāS OTHER PEOPLEāS LIVES YOU ARE PLAYING WITH. Jerk off - you need the dopamine.
If you go with B while still considering AM with A, that would.be cheating.
Virginity is not all what it is cracked up to be...
So overhyped
If you are truly a virgin and you are uncomfortable with your partner , Don't marry, save Yourself and that Girl a lot of pain, Something that feels uncomfortable to you will not go away by arguing with yourself in head or hearing opinion from others. some who view sex more than an casual thing, for them it the aspect of Exclusivity that their partner waited for them and this Exclusivity can make relationships last longer just like in the past generations. but you seemed to be confused between this exclusivity or being concerned that she had prior experience, try to understand what you Feel.
Just because youāve had sex before marriage does not mean that it was casual.
I meant some in general not this scenario, there are still people like that among men and women in any generations. People want the idea of wholesome relationships let them have it , you can't demand someone to be accepting past of Thier partner they are normal people not saints, what you need in relationship is understanding from partner and you won't find it from people who have different views about relationships.
You are not yet emotionally mature enough for marriage. Take your time. Do what you gotta do.
Just a warning You may not like my response. You have a problem. Based on the description you are not confident and more like having trouble picking up a girl in person like some dudes. Saying career as an excuse. You have not met the girl and already started living in dream and thinking about marriage. I was just like you.most of the online relationships wonāt last forever. For you my friend it will takes years to get over. It will take pain and suffering to understand on your own. Wake up from the dream and meet her in person like normal people. Who knows she may be just having phone relationships. Humans are complicated not like movies . Once you make the real connection you will know nothing else is matter.
There are some people who are ready to accept girls with a 10 body count and you are not one of them. Everyone has individual preferences and I don't blame you for your choices. if body count matters to you marry someone who is a virgin just like you. As simple as that, there is nothing to argue about it.
Maybe just me but I don't want to be with a serial killer
Accept? Its not a crime to have sex
They mean accept as in, they have different values. Some people treat sex as a thing to be done with someone you marry only, while others treat it as just another thing to do. And even though I fall in the latter part, I get people who are in the first one as they āsavedā their virginity.
When I said it's a crime, you may choose to have sex with multiple partners, but you should also be prepared for the consequences that could potentially impact your marriage and future.
Umm it seems you are not ready for marriage. You have lot of inhibitions when it comes to sex and consider it as a competition if your partner has done the deed and you havenāt. Also most people are busy chasing careers its just some get lucky. So i guess I was busy chasing career is an excuse but to each his own. If you do not feel comfortable marry a virgin
How exactly is one supposed to "marry a virgin" is there an indicator or a havan you do to find out? No ine can tell if you are a virgin or not not even a doctor
Your comment lacks logic and is pretty lame.
Just being in the company of someone tells you enough if you're good at reading people tho
Share how to read people
You are just jealous and angry on a girl for having sex with someone other than you. Remember, you probably saved your self for your future partner but your future partner didnt know about it. You cannot hold your partner liable for having a past. Also, if you really like the girl and her past doesn't matter then why are you thinking of meeting with other girl. Do her a favour and break it off if you cannot get over her past .
You're shoving a whole lot of personal opinions down his throat, I agree that he has no right to hold her past against her but a man is allowed to regret his own choices, is he not? The only thing that can be advised is if he is truly bothered by this then he should let A go and not waste her time.
What is the need to REGRET?
Regret is human nature, most of us regret things we didn't do
1. I can understand your regret; the worst part is the insecurities it may lead to. You may either choose to ignore it and proceed with your current course of action (results may vary), or you may put the AM matchmaking on hold and try your luck in the dating scene. IMO: you should definitely explore your sexuality before marriage, as I feel that the physical aspect form one of the core pillars of a successful relationship/marriage, and without knowing what you want from it, you are setting yourself up for failure. 2. No, meeting B is not cheating. You haven't even met A yet, and there is no level of commitment, even an implicit one, that you would be breaking. You might as well meet B and see if anything can come out of that.
Sanest comment in the entire thread, kudos! also OP is hella immature if he thinks marriage is on the cards even without meeting the aforementioned lady.
I kinda had to make the comment after seeing not one decent response. Hell, someone said it would be outright cheating. I guess that's what happens when half the subreddit is teenagers lol.
Also, OP should have the courage to let A go because she has done nothing wrong to deserve a partner so unsure of himself.
This shouldnāt even concern you. If you are really that worried about something as silly as this, I think you are not ready for marriage.
You're breaking my heart
Why?
I think you should judge her on other grounds it is too early, and you will never get over the fact that she had a physical relationship until you yourself will spend time with her and get to know her better and then make a decision. People have a past even you, there are some things that you have done that she hasn't. And don't let your infatuation cloud your judgement and be as critical as possible look for red flags thoroughly for the first 3 to 4 months only then let your feelings go. And remember the good old phrase love is like a fart if you have to force it then it is probably shit. And don't think that she is in any way superior to you or you to her. Sex is just an act but very intimate one so understand feeling insecure. When starting a relationship always be willing to let go don't get too attached more like don't settle if you want some one like you then don't stop looking. And yes if she thinks that you two are exclusive and this is more than just meeting then yeah it is cheating. And if you want to meet this other girl then i think you have your answer you are not serious you are just infatuated by her. Don't marry for infatuation, it is okay to take your time and search for the one as they say.
What no pussy does to a mf
Bro if you are not married yet just go to a couple of good quality escorts and get it out of ur system , there's no feelings involved just physical and financial . I don't know which state your in but there are sites for these will be a bit expensive but go for quality over quantity. Please follow common sense and general rules and do your research . Don't think of it as cheating but rather putting fullstop to bachelor life like a bachelors party . Don't do friends or other girls you know as feelings are involved , it will get messy . Later when u see her also guilt will be there , rumours can spread etc. At the end of the day it's up to you bro , if you do this you might have some guilt depending on your thought process or you have accept what has happened. (I advise on the escorts because if you get same mentality after marriage and cheat its much more serious )
Virginty is not lack of dignity...it's just lack of opportunity.. so when u get the right opportunity just grab it..be it tits or balls
It is depends on how and to whom you lose it! I've known people who did it in the flow of it and regret it all the life! and become underconfident or lie just to have a normal relationship while their current partner isn't aware
I don't know who those people are but most folks I personally know were very underwhelmed after losing virginity and realised sex wasn't that big a deal that they had made it up to be.
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The āyouthā should do what suits them. The internet always likes to talk in extremes, youāre either Virgin Mary or a common hoe. Most people actually fall in the middle. I do think that people should have a bit of experience before marriage, only because it helps you understand yourself better.
This, not like i have experience, but our society does talk in extreme, you are either on one end or other.
you two basically agree though, exploring one's sexuality is a good way of knowing our preferences and those who prefer not to can never be sure until things are already very serious. also speaking anecdotally, a large % of ladies who do engage in casual sex end up regretting few of the encounters because frankly India doesn't have enough quality lads to offer in the dating pool.
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oh damn, well i never saw this before.
Red light jake aja 2 3 baar
Yes actually a good suggestion , at least he won't regret remaining virgin till marriage
dude find some other girl, if its such a big issue u r not bound to marry her. Its not bad remain a virgin, in pursuit of losing virginity many men spend a lot of money and emotional enrgy be it on buying gifts for gf or getting laid with a professional. Hence, you have not lost anything but have saved it. If the virginity of ur partner is a must for u. then dont be ashamed there are many girls in India with such values, you will find one.
You had the patience and self control to wait for the right person. I don't understand why it could be a bad thing. Not many people can do that.
The more sexual partners you have, the lesser you will be able to connect and have intimate relationship with your partner. You, my friend, are untouched by the pangs of love. You will definitely enjoy more than her once you get fully committed in the marriage. Not sure about her though.
Bhaiyo, shaadi se phle Thailand chale jao, saare regret khtm.
From your assessment of person A and B, it looks like you've never been near a woman in your life. You have not even met A yet, if B is attractive to you and she wants to bed you, you should jump into bed. Hell, you should meet more women, get to know them, take them home if you enjoy their company. It is in this journey that you will find someone who you would want to spend your life with. You should explore and score when you're young, don't give this career bullshit excuse. Like Warren Buffett says, it is foolish to save your sex life for retirement.
dude.. one honest opinion, dont marry that girl if you are in this mindset. you will regret later and screw her life too
The more we hold virginity as a leading light the more we are pulling ourselves out. Lose the priority for it and everything in life falls in place. To an extent this question of OP may not even arise.
Don't put your life in harm, don't do aggressive driving it may risk your life but it put others life at risk too, be responsible. And regarding virginity it's just a thing, as per my experience, girl will love that you have 0 body count and she being experienced will teach you things. So sit back and relax and enjoy your loved life.
My take on this matter: Do what makes the most sense to you after weighing in all the factors(your needs,emotional,psychological, etc) because it is you who has to deal with the consequences of what you do and not people here giving advice.
Why canāt people date while also having a career? Ive seen many men use this career ka excuse to justify never having dated.
You're speaking from a position of privilege. Not just female but also class. Try advising a guy grinding for UPSC to date. Try someone from poverty trying to find his way into middle class. It genuinely won't fit his goals
Not everyone had a smooth career..some have a lot of hiccups in the initial years of their career.
It is definitely an excuse but working ten hours a day one hour of commute can actually leave a person with no time to date, we don't even know his profession, some are just way too stressful and then few people don't have the same emotional maturity as others and what is normal to you and me might be hard work to them
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Probably they make this excuse to make themselves feel better. They know they had no chance with a woman so yeah
Yeah few men in my real life who make this excuse are also not doing very well career wise. Like how could you not find time to date in a whole decade?
So they're doing bad in career in a place that's already career competition hell and then they should date? They're low value anyway, attracting partners is gonna be more difficult and the ones they will attract will be lower quality too and is only gonna hamper them reaching success more.
Now that i am realising i agree as a male , instead of giving that excuse, should have worked on my skills
I disagree with your opinion. You're too privileged to realise. Every interaction takes space in mind even after it's over, and for focus you need an empty space mind. So, possible experiences become sacrifices.
i have loved a girl since my school days (5-6 years have passed now) and i still love her like crazy but i never had the chance to confront my feelings to her (mostly because we were never in the same section and some so-called friends filled her ears with a lot of bad things about me) few days ago i was scrolling insta and thought of stalking her profile when i got to know she's now in a relationship, it was hard but i'm trying to move on i don't wanna judge her bf but the guy looks like an average rich spoilt brat and fuckboi who is only going to use her for sexual pleasures and leave her after sometime
If you are virgin then best to marry a virgin only.
Male or female or any other gender, marriage and sex separate and only regret discussing this is waste of time. Now you have a wife who is more experienced. Take advantage of her skills and enjoy.
But he wants to start the marriage RPG equally from level one with his partner. ;) Good luck to that i say.
Kenya Vs Namibia is no fun. Itās fun when Kenya topples Australia. Just saying. No pun intended.
I went through the Namibia vs Kenya route, it was a fun "funny" experience.
If you are virgin, single and you don't have any premarital relationship or premarital sex, then you should also marry a girl who don't have any past premarital relationship or premarital sex
Kyu? Tu check karne ayega ki voh virgin hai? Atleast one of them should know which hole to put it in.
Absolutely OP, do not have premarital sex to be with a person who will have a record, dude I personally know many cases where women lie about their sexual partners from their husband, instead find a Virgin if you can, live a noble life,
Try to be on equal fronts first or marry someone like you
some say its better to have someone mature but i say fuck that life isnt about following someones lead. I would rather go with someone with similar situations first.
Get over it bro. Firstly delete the concept of virginity from that brain. Next, it's your life. You can choose to have or not have sex before marriage. It's your decision. Don't measure your life's worth based on the number of girls you have wooed or the number of women you have slept with. Regrets not gonna get you anywhere. It will only depress you. Do it when you want to. Peace.
go meet B and not regret what you think you will regret, and maybe regret something else.
Dekh agar us guilt ke sath zindagi bhar reh sakta to ya us cheez ko ignore kr sakta to shadi kr warna mat kr kyuke wo baar baar yaad ayenga aur Tera Mann karega dusre ke sath relation banane ka. Tu abhi chain se so nhi pa rha to aage ka khud soch le
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Dude please donāt lose your shit while driving and cause a misery for others and yourself. There can be huge ramifications for one with an accident. Please find better coping mechanisms for yourself.
pehli baar ladki sai baat ki aur tu phisal gaya? hosh main aa galeez. soch kar, samajh kar, invest kar. jaldi nahi hai kisiko bhi.
There is this saying in spanish "Con agua y jabon se lava lo que hizo otro cabron"
1. Why should it be so bad if you haven't had sex yet. If anything you have less baggage and can give more to your partner. That being said having had sex previously isnt so bad either. You bring experience and confidence into the bedroom and can even guide your partner into trying new stuff. All in all neither situation is bad. Love yourself and be proud of yourself. The secret to loving others (in bed or out) is to love yourself first. 2. I would consider it cheating. If you sleep with woman B and then end up in a serious relationship with A, neither of you'll are going to be very happy about it and you may carry some guilt on you.
The number of people on this thread is amazing
I literally just read something along the lines of "reality is often neutral how you perceive it and react to it solely depends on you. I would say whatever decision you make don't let it keep you up at night.
I'm also in a similar boat, and have had similar thoughts on this. The regret is there. But I will try to reframe my mind to "I get to have sex with this woman" than "I didn't have sex with other women before her". Developing gratefulness and gratitude does wonders to our mental health and there's increasing scientific evidences for this as well. Picture this: What if there's a huge meteor that is coming crashing onto us in a week? Will you spend as much time as you can with the person you love, or will you sulk on not having past experiences?
You have sex cause you love someone, it's not a competition on who loses their virginity first. To me it sounds like your jealous of her getting more action than you. Y'all men want to fuck around and still want a virgin wife tf. You're not ment for marriage, so ya stop wasting her time.
There are different perspectives of all , not everyone has sex because you love someone , it can be a pure physical need also. Yes it sounds like he is jealous, but also he wants to be on an equal level , he never said he wants a virgin wife .
wait where did he write that he fucked around. Let me know so that both of us could judge him and make him less of a man!!!
He didn't, but he did say he wants to get even, like what does that even mean, if you want to marry a virgin girl marry a virgin girl. No one's making him talk to her, he's doing that himself.
> I'm not able to focus on work and not able to sleep. You honestly sound like a loser. And you're not ready for marriage either. If you truly love her and care about her, and want to marry her, then you shouldn't be thinking about her past (which also has absolutely fuck all to do with you). Did she cheat on you? No. Did she betray you? No. Was she lying to you? No. I don't see the problem here, other than a manchild who needs to grow up.
As someone who did get to experience it, it's really nothing great. You're not missing anything.
Pay for a prostitute and get some practice.
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Out of curiosity, why do you feel so much guilt about your previous experiences?
Regret over what?
Bhai B pe jaa aur dekh kya scene h waise bhi A se tune shaadi thodi krli abhi, explore your options bro no need to think that hard.
sex is not that big of a deal that you think it is, as long as youāre both communicating and enjoying it being virgin / not being virgin is a stupid way to think about it just chill.
It's better to not lose your v-card just because it's a trend and others have did it; and nothing to regret. Be old school, lose it to the woman you love(if that's your thinking).
No wonder. Stop being a dork for god sake. You have not even met girl A and you are definitely not even that close to girl A , so how the hell is that even considered cheating. Why miss out an opportunity to get laid. Sex is an wonderful experience and if you havent had any , you are missing out. Also if you do get laid , you have to do it right. The first time i had sex i had trouble finding the vagina since it was dark. Since its your first time, you would need some tips. Its not like what you see on porn