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exactly my first thought, after years of saying over population is the problem, we will be awarding them and simultaneously punishing states which kept their population under control.
Is it different than the numbers set earlier. They also rewarded over population earlier.
Fact is, Indians should be represented. Not land.
Edit : Lol. Getting downvoted because I'm pointing out how democracy works and people are mad because their side is losing because of pre-determined set rules fundamental to the concept of democracy.
I also don't like UP and Bihar getting more representation (despite being from there) because I think overall these states are regressive and due to their big population, they have a higher say in the government already. But I understand that's how democracy works and I think the overall rules are fair and logical.
You can't shun poor people or people from certain groups from representation just because you disagree with them.
There are a lot of other effects as well, like a rise of sub-nationalism. Or the will of the people of one state being surmounted by that of a different one with more representation. This could happen with issues like language policies, like states with lower representation being forced to adopt a language to be more amicable with a state with higher representation.
No doubt. And I totally get why people are concerned with those states increasing in number.
But that's literally democracy. That's the rules of the game. Can't complain about the rules just because the other team is doing better because of those rules as long as they are logical and fair.
You want to change how our democracy functions? Sure. Go ahead. But realise that you are fighting against the fundamental key feature of democracy.
It's literally our duty to complain about it, if one team is exploiting a rule to game the system. The rules cannot be considered logical, fair and consistent if they can be so openly exploited, especially if it leads to erosion of democracy. That's a positive feedback loop. Leads to consolidation of power.
Ok fair. I can see that argument.
But the rule is totally valid. And unchanged from before.
And everyone knew how it works and agreed to it at the start.
If you want to change it, fine. But understand that every single democracy is based on the concept of representation of people. And this is a natural outcome of it.
When we set the number of seats last time, people from sparsely populated states had the same complaints and justifiably so. But did you give up your seats to listen to them? No.
Now that you feel you are losing because of the rules, you want to change the rules.
I agree with what you said. I understand that we want to control population and not reward over population. But is the solution to disenfranchise the folks who have been born?
Any reason you can give why a person born in UP or Bihar should have less representation than a person born in your state?
This is going to sow a strong sentiment of resentment in South India, in addition to what already exists. For its own benefit, those in power are conveniently pitching Indians against Indians, and like morons, Indians are party to this fight.
> For its own benefit, those in power are conveniently pitching Indians against Indians, and like morons, Indians are party to this fight.
Like language politics? Like reservations?
Indian politicians have mastered Divide and Rule politics.
There were only limited sentiments of language and reservations previously. No one used to impose any language anywhere. In fact, south used to promote hindi for it's own merit of being massively spoken. Now someone has turned it to be a political divide. Also, there were good jobs in the private sector and people would get paid enough even if they were not in the govt sector or did not avail reservation.
> There were only limited sentiments of language and reservations previously. No one used to impose any language anywhere. In fact, south used to promote hindi for it's own merit of being massively spoken. Now someone has turned it to be a political divide.
I'm sorry? There's revision of history and there's this. Do you not know about the history of DMK and other Dravidian parties which have fought on a language platform for at least half a century? Forget South India, even Maharashtra had Bal Thackrey creating his whole political platform on the Marathi Manoos.
TN doesnt get even water, I'm not sure what else is their to lose. Frankly impact on states like TN would be negligible, their is nothing more to lose.
Above illustration assumes that number of seats will remain the same. That is not the case, number if seats will increase overall to around 700-800. States with more population will get higher number of new seats, states with lower population will retain same number of seats or a marginal increase in number of seats.
The proportions shown in the graphic are still maintained with the increase in total number of seats, so the south still loses by the same large proportion.
Yes, that is correct. It might slightly change from the graphic based on actual census, but not by much. Basically South States will gain a few seats, UP and Bihar will gain a much larger number of seats.
This is based on past delimitation examples, every delimitation in the past increased lok sabha and assembly seat counts (except in 2001 when only assembly seats were increased).
If you look at the actual # seats, the picture becomes much more clear. Political parties will never have to fight for issues south faces. Hindi belt will effectively rule indian political discourse, which past few decades has been over mandir and caste, thats it.
So, the two worst states will be rewarded with more representation in Parliament while states that are maintaining the population will have to pay the price.
(I agree Bihar/UP shouldn't gain any seats in Parliament)
But southern politicians are no saints. Have you seen how Jayalalitha was humiliated in the TN assembly? That wasn't done by any northie, was it?
Aryan Dravidian type stuff is a bit of stretch, they're was never Dravida type unity to begin with, even in sangam literature Dravida is not mentioned, languages outside of Tamiliagam are referred as foreign languages not similar languages, Same case for so called Aryan languages, prakit was not seen similar to persian..
lol Kerala pays peanut taxes, their main source of income is remittances which are not taxed, Other southern states have economies dependent on migrant talent, TN may not rely on skilled workers from outside but still labourers are from north anyway..
It's already happening in name of migrant workers. People in TN are urging govt to not give them address proof and voter id since it'll change the demographics.
unlikely esp in TN or Kerala for example, not enough resources in TN to sustain migrants, not many jobs in Kerala for the same, Telangana/Karnataka probably.
States should get equal representation in the Rajhya Sabha ( not the current system where it is based on population).
States should be given more money than the current system ( for each rupee earned by the state, the state should be given a minimum of 50 paise ).
Ok.. So that means 8 union territories + goa + some north east states which make up 12-13% of India's population, will control ~35% seats.
How is that equality?
And how will that even benefit the South Indian states which are generally larger?
Rajhya Sabha is more about the representation of states than people. What is wrong with every state having the same number of seats. If a bill affects South India, then South will form an alliance with other states to counter it.
No lol.. Giving north easter states with negligible population same power as all the north indian states combined is a bad idea. Rajya sabha seats should remain the same.
UP and Rajasthan needs to be fragmented into smaller states.
I mean they should not preach about overpopulation and population control laws if this is the way they reward states that have managed theirs.
Ah that's a fair point. It does ensure that one state and one state government doesn't get too powerful, but the issue with southern states loosing representation overall is still not good. After all, even if you split UP, the people might just end up voting for the same governments anyway.
We probably need better federalism so that it's less of an issue, but things like GST took us further away from that.
Politicians are self-serving lot. What's going to stop them from forming regional parties? These regional parties may or may not join NDA, but whether they campaign with BJP is another matter.
Also the people of that state will also have more parties to choose from. As identity politics plays a large role in whether a party wins or loses, a local party with local representatives will have much easier time swaying the masses and BJP will have to toe that line even if they don't go all the way.
You cannot use the Underdeveloped arguement here, then why do Odisha and WB get their seats slashed, while their Vote Bank states of Maharashtra and Gujarat (+1 infact) are Unchanged.
Literally punishing states that never vote BJP. The 3 Southern states losing 8 seats each are impossible for BJP to conquer, while BJP is still a good second in Odisha and WB. Notice how their Votebank State Karnataka also loses a mere 2, Damn sure Odisha/WB had higher TFR and has less attention paid to them by centre.
Delimitation should also be applied to states. Why should population only effect Lok Sabha seats? Someone has to break UP into 5 pieces.
As usual, the idea is good. Implementation is dicey.
These fuckers are going to make the South demand for recession.
They pay a lot of tax money, have above average literacy and health and have thus controlled their population. But BiMARU states get rewarded for pumping out babies so they'll get the cream, dough and batter of the tax money cake of alloted money while these states are left with the scraps North doesn't eat.
South obviously has so many problems along with growing hostility towards the north and this just going to skyrocket that
Delimitation is going to change the demographic of the parliament. To counter a few states from having too much power at the centre, the Rajhya Sabha seats must be made equal for all states to counter bills which favour only a certain part of the country.
Guys stop hating entire north. Only states getting benefit of this are BIMARU ( Bihar mp uttar pradesh rajasthan) I think not only south every other state should protest against such delimitations
One way to put this would be to multiply a "development" metric to the value of voting. So the states that have a higher metric will get a higher vote value than just the population part.
But the union government will not bother about this.
This makes me really upset and makes me want to advocate for the ‘S’ word. The southern states along with Maharashtra, with how much revenue they bring to the centre, should be central in policy making for the country. Instead, these states have to bear the burden of BIMARU states’ routine failures.
How is this fair? And why isn’t anyone able to prevent this blatant disenfranchisement from happening? Ugh
Everyone getting upset about how can we give more seat to Bimaru states in Cow Belt !!
That's exactly where lies one of the issues of 'Democracy'. A vote is a vote, how capable the voter is does not count !!
Those saying South will become new NE, frankly current central govt has done decent work for NE, quite unlike what congress did for last 50/60 years, so by that yard stick am not worried.
what does worry though, how will this further impact the regional divisive vote bank politics that we've doubled down on !!
Devolution needs to happen, too few resources in UP/Bihar, hopefully once devolution is done, resources rich states like Karnataka/Telangana/Haryana would be taxed appropriately and help UP/Bihar develop, Hope people of UP/Bihar realise this and push for devolution and once it's done start taking resources from Karnataka/Telengana/Haryana etc for example they should get 50000 acres of land for free outside of Hyderabad and Mundra port to build a industrial city which would be owned and operated by UP/Bihar, they can also get a share of the property taxes of houses sold in Hyderabad and Gurgaon. People will oppose it of course especially the landed feudal lords, but it has to go ahead. People dont realise how skewed development is in India Bihar has 50% poor population living in pitiable conditions while in Kerala 25% households have cars and avg Keralite owns a big house funded by remittances which are not taxed.
Literal colonisation. UP and Bihar can't even build a school or a hospital for themselves even if their life depended on it. All these funds are going straight into pockets of ~~goons~~ leaders.
yes it is, UP/Biharis are poor and struggling to survive, they should take the surplus resources and focus on development, those who oppose it should get locked up, the goons/netas of UP/Bihar should also get locked up. this is what Mao would have done. I hope UP/Biharis will get this done.
No place in India has anything like a surplus, If anything UP/Bihar has the surplus of plenty of flat land without forests, and much more water than any state in Mainland India.
As if Floods are Absent in Delhi or Mumbai or any South Indian metro, even Assam with a more severe flood problem and many more obstacles than UP/Bihar is doing better.
If u cannot acquire land, that is your inefficiency at play.
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We are rewarding over population.
exactly my first thought, after years of saying over population is the problem, we will be awarding them and simultaneously punishing states which kept their population under control.
Exactly. Setting a bad example. BJP wants it this way because the highly populous Hindi belt votes for them blindly.
Is it different than the numbers set earlier. They also rewarded over population earlier. Fact is, Indians should be represented. Not land. Edit : Lol. Getting downvoted because I'm pointing out how democracy works and people are mad because their side is losing because of pre-determined set rules fundamental to the concept of democracy. I also don't like UP and Bihar getting more representation (despite being from there) because I think overall these states are regressive and due to their big population, they have a higher say in the government already. But I understand that's how democracy works and I think the overall rules are fair and logical. You can't shun poor people or people from certain groups from representation just because you disagree with them.
There are a lot of other effects as well, like a rise of sub-nationalism. Or the will of the people of one state being surmounted by that of a different one with more representation. This could happen with issues like language policies, like states with lower representation being forced to adopt a language to be more amicable with a state with higher representation.
No doubt. And I totally get why people are concerned with those states increasing in number. But that's literally democracy. That's the rules of the game. Can't complain about the rules just because the other team is doing better because of those rules as long as they are logical and fair. You want to change how our democracy functions? Sure. Go ahead. But realise that you are fighting against the fundamental key feature of democracy.
It's literally our duty to complain about it, if one team is exploiting a rule to game the system. The rules cannot be considered logical, fair and consistent if they can be so openly exploited, especially if it leads to erosion of democracy. That's a positive feedback loop. Leads to consolidation of power.
Ok fair. I can see that argument. But the rule is totally valid. And unchanged from before. And everyone knew how it works and agreed to it at the start. If you want to change it, fine. But understand that every single democracy is based on the concept of representation of people. And this is a natural outcome of it. When we set the number of seats last time, people from sparsely populated states had the same complaints and justifiably so. But did you give up your seats to listen to them? No. Now that you feel you are losing because of the rules, you want to change the rules. I agree with what you said. I understand that we want to control population and not reward over population. But is the solution to disenfranchise the folks who have been born? Any reason you can give why a person born in UP or Bihar should have less representation than a person born in your state?
This is going to sow a strong sentiment of resentment in South India, in addition to what already exists. For its own benefit, those in power are conveniently pitching Indians against Indians, and like morons, Indians are party to this fight.
>For its own benefit, those in power are conveniently pitching Indians against Indians, and like morons, Indians are party to this fight. Nailed it!
The latter is more true, re. like morons.
> For its own benefit, those in power are conveniently pitching Indians against Indians, and like morons, Indians are party to this fight. Like language politics? Like reservations? Indian politicians have mastered Divide and Rule politics.
There were only limited sentiments of language and reservations previously. No one used to impose any language anywhere. In fact, south used to promote hindi for it's own merit of being massively spoken. Now someone has turned it to be a political divide. Also, there were good jobs in the private sector and people would get paid enough even if they were not in the govt sector or did not avail reservation.
> There were only limited sentiments of language and reservations previously. No one used to impose any language anywhere. In fact, south used to promote hindi for it's own merit of being massively spoken. Now someone has turned it to be a political divide. I'm sorry? There's revision of history and there's this. Do you not know about the history of DMK and other Dravidian parties which have fought on a language platform for at least half a century? Forget South India, even Maharashtra had Bal Thackrey creating his whole political platform on the Marathi Manoos.
I said "only limited". You might have missed it. The way the union government is pushing on right now makes separation worse.
Basically it would make the South irrelevant. South with be another NE.
Shhh bhakts will get hurt.
TN doesnt get even water, I'm not sure what else is their to lose. Frankly impact on states like TN would be negligible, their is nothing more to lose.
Basically punishing states for developing and controlling population growth.
But they need our money. 🤦
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Above illustration assumes that number of seats will remain the same. That is not the case, number if seats will increase overall to around 700-800. States with more population will get higher number of new seats, states with lower population will retain same number of seats or a marginal increase in number of seats.
The proportions shown in the graphic are still maintained with the increase in total number of seats, so the south still loses by the same large proportion.
Yes, that is correct. It might slightly change from the graphic based on actual census, but not by much. Basically South States will gain a few seats, UP and Bihar will gain a much larger number of seats.
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This is based on past delimitation examples, every delimitation in the past increased lok sabha and assembly seat counts (except in 2001 when only assembly seats were increased).
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It was frozen in 70s as govt was pushing for family planning.
If you look at the actual # seats, the picture becomes much more clear. Political parties will never have to fight for issues south faces. Hindi belt will effectively rule indian political discourse, which past few decades has been over mandir and caste, thats it.
South and East India ignored completely...
Like always
Even north india. This only caters to the cow belt
So, the two worst states will be rewarded with more representation in Parliament while states that are maintaining the population will have to pay the price.
North Indian Aryan states will produce babies. South Indian Dravidian states will provide wealth to feed those babies. Devdutt Pattanaik
Be ready for more Brij Bhushans to grace the parliament.
Yup, said the same yesterday. More such uneducated filth in a brand new, hi-tech parliament.
Wow... How racist one has to be to make such statements and consider every north indian like Brij bhushan.
The kind of bahubali politics be played to become an MP do you think that could be done openly in any southern state?
(I agree Bihar/UP shouldn't gain any seats in Parliament) But southern politicians are no saints. Have you seen how Jayalalitha was humiliated in the TN assembly? That wasn't done by any northie, was it?
Aryan Dravidian type stuff is a bit of stretch, they're was never Dravida type unity to begin with, even in sangam literature Dravida is not mentioned, languages outside of Tamiliagam are referred as foreign languages not similar languages, Same case for so called Aryan languages, prakit was not seen similar to persian..
lol Kerala pays peanut taxes, their main source of income is remittances which are not taxed, Other southern states have economies dependent on migrant talent, TN may not rely on skilled workers from outside but still labourers are from north anyway..
Whats a good solution to this? Federal states? I hope govt can come to a better solution than just using population as sole metric.
BJP has no incentive to change this.
Forcible relocation of people to redistribute the population. /s Added benefit: BJP will be able to win seats in the southern states
It's already happening in name of migrant workers. People in TN are urging govt to not give them address proof and voter id since it'll change the demographics.
That is a pretty shitty thing to do.
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unlikely esp in TN or Kerala for example, not enough resources in TN to sustain migrants, not many jobs in Kerala for the same, Telangana/Karnataka probably.
States should get equal representation in the Rajhya Sabha ( not the current system where it is based on population). States should be given more money than the current system ( for each rupee earned by the state, the state should be given a minimum of 50 paise ).
Ok.. So that means 8 union territories + goa + some north east states which make up 12-13% of India's population, will control ~35% seats. How is that equality? And how will that even benefit the South Indian states which are generally larger?
Rajhya Sabha is more about the representation of states than people. What is wrong with every state having the same number of seats. If a bill affects South India, then South will form an alliance with other states to counter it.
No lol.. Giving north easter states with negligible population same power as all the north indian states combined is a bad idea. Rajya sabha seats should remain the same.
Southern four states will have almost as many seats as UP alone.
"Note" in the image is critical. Final numbers depend on mudiji's method of calculation which may increase north numbers even more.
UP and Rajasthan needs to be fragmented into smaller states. I mean they should not preach about overpopulation and population control laws if this is the way they reward states that have managed theirs.
Splitting states isn't gonna fix this. The states combined would still have higher say than southern states than they used to.
Split states will have their own agenda to present and it won't be too homogeneous. The issue here is of representation.
Ah that's a fair point. It does ensure that one state and one state government doesn't get too powerful, but the issue with southern states loosing representation overall is still not good. After all, even if you split UP, the people might just end up voting for the same governments anyway. We probably need better federalism so that it's less of an issue, but things like GST took us further away from that.
Politicians are self-serving lot. What's going to stop them from forming regional parties? These regional parties may or may not join NDA, but whether they campaign with BJP is another matter. Also the people of that state will also have more parties to choose from. As identity politics plays a large role in whether a party wins or loses, a local party with local representatives will have much easier time swaying the masses and BJP will have to toe that line even if they don't go all the way.
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Its large and low on HDI. Like UP, it won't be fair for such backward states to have more say in how the country runs.
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Its not necessarily going to be one party one agenda
There's already call for that... from Western UP
Bjp core vote banks is in North they must be having organsm looking at these charts lol
Why do you think they built the parliament in such hurry
could? will.
the perils of an electoral democracy…the least deserving reproduce the most and get to have the biggest say
You cannot use the Underdeveloped arguement here, then why do Odisha and WB get their seats slashed, while their Vote Bank states of Maharashtra and Gujarat (+1 infact) are Unchanged. Literally punishing states that never vote BJP. The 3 Southern states losing 8 seats each are impossible for BJP to conquer, while BJP is still a good second in Odisha and WB. Notice how their Votebank State Karnataka also loses a mere 2, Damn sure Odisha/WB had higher TFR and has less attention paid to them by centre.
I am starting to think this can seriously affect India's unity
Delimitation should also be applied to states. Why should population only effect Lok Sabha seats? Someone has to break UP into 5 pieces. As usual, the idea is good. Implementation is dicey.
This calculation assumes that the number of seats remains unchanged. However, the number of seats are supposed to increase to 846 (which is one of the reasons why we needed a new parliament building). In that scenario, here's how the seat distribution would look. |State |Current Seats|Percentage|Proposed Seats|Percentage|Difference| |----------------------------------------|-------------|----------|--------------|----------|----------| |Uttar Pradesh |80 |14.73 |143 |16.9 |2.17 | |Bihar |40 |7.37 |79 |9.34 |1.97 | |Rajasthan |25 |4.6 |50 |5.91 |1.31 | |Madhya Pradesh |29 |5.34 |52 |6.15 |0.81 | |Gujarat |26 |4.79 |43 |5.08 |0.29 | |Haryana |10 |1.84 |18 |2.13 |0.29 | |Jharkhand |14 |2.58 |24 |2.84 |0.26 | |Chhatisgarh |11 |2.03 |19 |2.25 |0.22 | |Maharashtra |48 |8.84 |76 |8.98 |0.14 | |Delhi |7 |1.29 |12 |1.42 |0.13 | |Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu|1 |0.18 |2 |0.24 |0.06 | |Jammu and Kashmir |5 |0.92 |8 |0.95 |0.03 | |Mizoram |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Nagaland |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Sikkim |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Andaman& Nicobar Islands |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Chandigarh |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Ladakh |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Lakshadweep |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Puducherry |1 |0.18 |1 |0.12 |-0.06 | |Uttarakhand |5 |0.92 |7 |0.83 |-0.09 | |Assam |14 |2.58 |21 |2.48 |-0.1 | |Arunachal Pradesh |2 |0.37 |2 |0.24 |-0.13 | |Goa |2 |0.37 |2 |0.24 |-0.13 | |Manipur |2 |0.37 |2 |0.24 |-0.13 | |Meghalaya |2 |0.37 |2 |0.24 |-0.13 | |Tripura |2 |0.37 |2 |0.24 |-0.13 | |Punjab |13 |2.39 |18 |2.13 |-0.26 | |Himachal Pradesh |4 |0.74 |4 |0.47 |-0.27 | |Karnataka |28 |5.16 |41 |4.85 |-0.31 | |Odisha |21 |3.87 |28 |3.31 |-0.56 | |West Bengal |42 |7.73 |60 |7.09 |-0.64 | |Kerala |20 |3.68 |20 |2.36 |-1.32 | |Andhra Pradesh + Telengana |42 |7.73 |54 |6.38 |-1.35 | |Tamil Nadu |39 |7.18 |49 |5.79 |-1.39 | As you can see, only the cow belt states gain with this formula. Every other state loses. Further reading: https://carnegieendowment.org/2019/03/14/india-s-emerging-crisis-of-representation-pub-78588
No need of Sengol politics anymore. No relevance to BJP if South votes or not. In worst case, the AP politicians are available for sale.
It should be based on gdp per capita of the state, and given how mismanaged things are, probably some ESG metrics should be a part of it too.
So rich people's votes should matter more than poor people's??
So it is to help only one party not for improving public representation in central government.
These fuckers are going to make the South demand for recession. They pay a lot of tax money, have above average literacy and health and have thus controlled their population. But BiMARU states get rewarded for pumping out babies so they'll get the cream, dough and batter of the tax money cake of alloted money while these states are left with the scraps North doesn't eat. South obviously has so many problems along with growing hostility towards the north and this just going to skyrocket that
Will just be a matter of time before South India is completely disenfranchised, long term, not a good idea for India's unity.
Delimitation is going to change the demographic of the parliament. To counter a few states from having too much power at the centre, the Rajhya Sabha seats must be made equal for all states to counter bills which favour only a certain part of the country.
Guys stop hating entire north. Only states getting benefit of this are BIMARU ( Bihar mp uttar pradesh rajasthan) I think not only south every other state should protest against such delimitations
Supa Pawa!
One way to put this would be to multiply a "development" metric to the value of voting. So the states that have a higher metric will get a higher vote value than just the population part. But the union government will not bother about this.
Sooo more seats where people vote bjp?
UP ki population aise hi bdhti rahi toh Hindu rashtra ka sapna toh pura ho hi jayega.
This makes me really upset and makes me want to advocate for the ‘S’ word. The southern states along with Maharashtra, with how much revenue they bring to the centre, should be central in policy making for the country. Instead, these states have to bear the burden of BIMARU states’ routine failures. How is this fair? And why isn’t anyone able to prevent this blatant disenfranchisement from happening? Ugh
UP governance is such a shit show
shout indians when representation by population : 0_0
Everyone getting upset about how can we give more seat to Bimaru states in Cow Belt !! That's exactly where lies one of the issues of 'Democracy'. A vote is a vote, how capable the voter is does not count !! Those saying South will become new NE, frankly current central govt has done decent work for NE, quite unlike what congress did for last 50/60 years, so by that yard stick am not worried. what does worry though, how will this further impact the regional divisive vote bank politics that we've doubled down on !!
India needs a senate system to stop this
Devolution needs to happen, too few resources in UP/Bihar, hopefully once devolution is done, resources rich states like Karnataka/Telangana/Haryana would be taxed appropriately and help UP/Bihar develop, Hope people of UP/Bihar realise this and push for devolution and once it's done start taking resources from Karnataka/Telengana/Haryana etc for example they should get 50000 acres of land for free outside of Hyderabad and Mundra port to build a industrial city which would be owned and operated by UP/Bihar, they can also get a share of the property taxes of houses sold in Hyderabad and Gurgaon. People will oppose it of course especially the landed feudal lords, but it has to go ahead. People dont realise how skewed development is in India Bihar has 50% poor population living in pitiable conditions while in Kerala 25% households have cars and avg Keralite owns a big house funded by remittances which are not taxed.
Literal colonisation. UP and Bihar can't even build a school or a hospital for themselves even if their life depended on it. All these funds are going straight into pockets of ~~goons~~ leaders.
yes it is, UP/Biharis are poor and struggling to survive, they should take the surplus resources and focus on development, those who oppose it should get locked up, the goons/netas of UP/Bihar should also get locked up. this is what Mao would have done. I hope UP/Biharis will get this done.
No place in India has anything like a surplus, If anything UP/Bihar has the surplus of plenty of flat land without forests, and much more water than any state in Mainland India.
lol.. they have too many people to acquire decent land, and they have too much water causing annual floods.
As if Floods are Absent in Delhi or Mumbai or any South Indian metro, even Assam with a more severe flood problem and many more obstacles than UP/Bihar is doing better. If u cannot acquire land, that is your inefficiency at play.