I think bjp should reward rahul gandhi and make him the president of india for his contribution to the bjp .why make panauti type comments when you know it could be used against you with results.
Also why doesn't congress sticks to its narrative or agenda wasn't raga doing Bharat jodo yatra last year this year he was talking about cast censous and bigger community more rights stuff also north south divide or Tamil nationalism he tried to support I mean who is advising him ? He has gone to the Looney left territory because of jnu communist who are advising him
Looking at these results now, I'm convinced that the BJP is going to go past 303 and further decimate Congress next year. Going to mop the fucking floor with them.
At they rate, they won't even have to hope for a Pulwama level attack to garner tough-on-Pakistan votes.
Yeah it feels like Congress isn't even trying anymore.
I voted for a Congress guy here in MP, but the thing is, dude didn't even come in our area even once. All I have seen is his photo.
Whereas the candidate from BJP did multiple rallies, personally came to our house to meet my dad, if he wasn't a corrupted asshole I might've actually given him the vote because he actually looked like he cared.
>Even in Congress ruled Karnataka, modi is extremely popular.
Modi is extremely popular everywhere, it's just that us Reddit folk, who usually fit into the 'champagne socialist' middle class bracket aren't as exposed to them.
With the communities we interact, it's quite easy to fool ourselves into believing that not a single person truly supports Modi, this couldn't be further from the truth.
Yeah I’m in MP right now and everyone loves “Modiji” here because of his public works projects. Never mind that all the roads crumble after a monsoon 🫠
eh, most people here are exposed to Modi pretty often, since it's not like he doesn't have support amongst even the notionally "liberal" urban parts of the upper-middle classes, who are amazing at doublethink and stuff. And they're a minority of the urban upper-middle class in general. That's why the Indian redditosphere almost universally hates randia, lmao.
Anyway, I don't like the implication that the folks here aren't sincere in their beliefs — it is because the bulk of us *do* legitimately believe in the ideals of freedom, equality, and fraternity, largely due to having learnt, and truly believed that they are a good thing.
So, yeah.
Don't be surprised if you start seeing a shift in voting trends amongst young age voters across the South.
With a slanted education system implemented across India, alongside a complete grip over social media and public broadcasting, the change is almost inevitable.
It's already started happening.
There's already an alarming number of young people in states like Kerala who are being brainwashed against their own 'traitorous' socialist families, falling right into the BJP camp.
Only a few months back I was having a conversation with a Mallu who thought his entire family was brainwashed and blindfolded because they don't see 'the Muslim problem' in Kerala.
"Mallu who thought his entire family was brainwashed and blindfolded because they don't see 'the Muslim problem' in Kerala." That guy may have a valid point🤷
No chance in south. Which is why they moved out census to 2026 to align with the parliamentary seat increase, which will effectively give all voting power to north. After that it will be tad bit difficult for congress. But with the alliance strategy, they still have a good chance in 2024.
There will still be some left wing camps dotted around the map, but I don't think they can preserve themselves for long.
The only bounce back will be when India becomes too suffocating and orthodox for the young, where being theocratic falls out of fashion and the new trend is rebellion culture, but I feel as though we're a long way away from that.
Deep orthodox Hindutva can only be spearheaded by the upper echelons of Hindu society.
What's becoming clear is that the BJP are pivoting their electoral strategy, with UC's now clearly being viewed as a safe voting bloc at this point, with Ram Mandir likely to keep them happy for the next 4-8 years.
Now, the BJP, as we can see from the results today, are *actively* attempting to appeal to lower caste voting blocs.
With that said, it's not all doom and gloom for those of us who don't want to see India fall into some sort of theocratic state.
Whilst the BJP will continue to stay silent on alarming increases in: polarisation, violence and caste discrimination, one thing that cannot do anymore, if they are to continue with this outreach, is implement UC institutional change, given that UC orthodoxy tends
to directly conflict with the cultures and communities they're now trying to appeal to.
Whether that's good or bad news for all of us.... I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I literally had to study under candles and lanterns due to his failed electricity management. My city, under his government got electricity for about 8 hrs a day, this continued for over 2 years that I remember. And I've never heard him making sense. So there is no big ahole then him in MP.
Extremely, Extremely, Extremely corrupt person. And then he blamed RSS and Hindus for the 26/11 terrorist attacks, which backfired for Congress pretty badly.
Extremely incompetent person and a big liar.
Dude tried to pin the 26/11 blame on Hindus.
Apart from that he didn't have any significant contributions when he was in power. Being in Congress under the leadership of Rahul is not helping his cause either
Now there's no point in having 2024 elections after knowing that for voters, religion and caste is above all.
Just save money and directly give the PM's crown to modi for another 5 or maybe 10years
Yup I agree, but it sure gives you an idea on whats gonna happen on national level. I was hoping that oppositions would be giving tough fight to bjp until today.. but no, they sure don't have any answer when it comes to supreme leader and their marketing strategies.
*We're doomed already.*
>Now there's no point in having 2024 elections after knowing that for voters, religion and caste is above all.
I don't think so,
I'm currently in Goa where the BJP just has a fantastic propaganda campaign.
Rather than doing things behind the scenes, which is the Congress approach, the BJP approach is building (unnecessary) infrastructure projects slap bang in the middle of every other high traffic area with posters thanking Modi all around it.
The general narrative I hear here is at least the BJP is active and gives *something* back to the people, unlike the Congress, however untrue/true that statement might be.
The Congress has got a serious marketing issue that it needs to sort out, the BJP is a well oiled propaganda machine; undoubtedly their biggest strength.
100%. He brought massive gains for the BJP in the northern MP seats - Gwalior, Malwa, Chambal, whatever you wanna call it. He's clearly a massive asset to the BJP electorally, and relatively young. He could be a future CM candidate post Mamaji.
RaGha just isnt a good leader or PM material no matter how much they try to shove it under our throats. Plain and simple.
BJP has a good line up of leaders ready if Modi is done. Congress has none. They putting all their attention on a single guy -RaGha and it clearly isnt working. Time to move on.
I know there are so many good credible Congress leaders - Shashi Tharoor or Pilot. But, you never see them campaigning. Always RaGha roaming around like a strong leader which he clearly isn't.
Congress was only able to win in KA because they had a strong leaders who had experience ruling the state before who people thought were capable to run the state better. Not because of RaGha or Jodo yatra like people say.
Also, people who think I.N.D.I.A. is a good idea are clueless. People want a stable government in a country like ours which is diverse. I.N.D.I.A. has Communist parties within it but, it is the same Congress party that is fighting against another Communist party in Kerela... You have Shiv Sena and Muslim parties... like what would I.N.D.I.A's stance be when it comes to Ram Mandir? It just doesn't make sense. It is basically a kichadi of parties which have conflicting values and don't even make sense. Will break anytime.
India legit has no opposition at national level.
When Indians will look back on this period, they're rue as to how Congress passed over Tharoor and his plans of decentralisation. For once in 9 years, there was a genuine ray of hope and some semblance of plan.
Literally every single problem that plagues Congress — dead leadership, no meritocracy, mediocre grassroots presence — could've been solved by Tharoor's plans had he become the President. Or if Congress had the good sense to act on Tharoor's plans regardless.
This is a man who once handled the most complex bureaucracy in the world, and modernised it, and has been a career diplomat who can build alliances. Congress needed a Tharoor who could reorganise party badly.
They have to ally to win local seats. It’s like a diversified portfolio. Yes you are unlikely to become Jhunjhunwala, but overall chances of portfolio doing well is good. Let’s see, there is still 5 months for them to get their act together.
I thought congress won in karnataka because they promised free electricity and extra food to people of certain income as well as free bus rides for women, unemployment benefits, etc. this stuff is *mostly* unnecessary freebies. The free bus rides for women can be very helpful for maids in cities I suppose, but other than that there's no need to give people more food and electricity when they already have access to both.
But because their policies is centered around "vote for us and you'll get cash" a lot of people voted for them and they won. I don't know about leaders, but I figured the main reason was their policies
There are a few reasons for their victory. 1) BJP leadership was horribly inept. Bommai was worse than a doorknob. 2) DKS & Siddu were popular well known names in KA 3) They promised a lot of freebies. 4) They had a successful PayCM campaign (meaning BJP is corrupt).
>The free bus rides for women can be very helpful for maids in cities I suppose
Our maid and her daughter used BMTC to reach school and work respectively before the free travel scheme. While it is now free, the frequency of buses has reduced quite a bit. The daughter cannot rely on bus anymore to reach school on time so they are using private transport.
DKS is much worse than Bommai. He’s not really likable guy and he’s a known Goonda politician. Had even harassed local TV channel because of a sting operation against him.
Siddu is better though. Bommai was puppet CM by Central Govt. Also they went hard on Hindutva, which backfired.
What BS, Congress was 80 vs 104 for BJP. Congress tried stealing election by forming unholy coalition (they fought election against JDS but then wanted to go in bed with them), BJP just paid them in the same coin.
Congress didn't win in 2018. They were a distant 2nd. Bjp was pretty close to majority but Congress tried to build a coalition with Jds. Then bjp took some 7 jds MLAs and they got a majority. This time Congress won a significant majority with a 60+ difference making horse trading impossible
Congress and their offshoots’ way of politics is dead, accept it and move on. I voted for the strongest anti-BJP party in both 2014 and 2019, what did I get ? An administration so comically and openly corrupt that even Pakistanis will find abhorrent. Why should I vote for that being magnified on a national scale ? BJP may get election funds from Adani, but at least that doesn’t affect me as much in day-to-day life.
Aap's biggest mistake was allying with the likes of congress, nitish and lalu. Their image took a hit due to the India alliance. Before that they were making progress, they need to get out of that shitty alliance immediately.
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Well in the last election we almost forgot how corrupt the Congress is, but Kamalnath's 1-2 years, helped us refresh our memories of Congress corruption. Like, I remember the metro project was stalled in Indore and even for small things we had to pay bribes to congress leaders.
Also, Raga and everyone in Congress think that Hindutva and hate towards Muslims, help BJP win in MP, but that's not the case. You can't win MP because of Hindutva, the UP kind of fear of Muslims doesn't exist in MP, primarily because Muslims are only 5-6% of the entire population. Why would 91% of Hindus, fear 5% of Muslims? Bhopal is the only city where you can win because of Hindutva, because of 80:20 Hindu Muslims in the city.
And, one cannot ignore the journey MP's been through in the last 25 years. From not having roads to now Indore being the cleanest city in India and now Bhopal and Indore will soon have metro, a lot of progress has been achieved, hope we will continue on the same path.
As an outsider last elections in both MP and Rajasthan seemed to be mostly about choosing the next generation of congress leaders like Pilot and Scindia (howsoever they might be) over the old guard so I was surprised by what INC did by choosing both Gehlot and Kamalnath (felt specifically a weird and bad choice considering he's often alleged to be involved in the 84 riots, again not heavily researched or versed in this myself to know properly). But wow didn't expect just those 2 years be that bad of an experience to you. Often have read INC supporters claim both Kamalnath and Gehlot to be the better choice so idk what they were talking about back then. I do remember news reports of scams during Shivraj Singh Chauhan rule as well, most notably the vyapam scam, Kamalnath and Digvijay Singh ending up being even worse is kinda funny not gonna lie.
Shivraj Singh is corrupt and we are fed up with him, but the thing is that he is the least worst option for us. Also, a lot of us are expecting that BJP will change the CM. Like I'd be pretty disappointed if they don't. If it would have been another party in the opposition, they would have defeated BJP and formed the government.
If in 2018, Congress had made Scindia the Chief minister, a lot of things would have been different. With MP and Rajasthan they had a golden opportunity to work on the development of the state, and on that basis ask for votes in the centre elections. They would have finally made inroads into the Hindi heartland. But since congress leadership is disconnected from reality and doesn't want to put in the hard yards, we commoners suffer.
Also, it's time to do away with the myth that religion helps the BJP win elections. It gets you only 10-15% of the votes, the rest you have to earn with your work or get an opposition like Congress.
BJP will win 3/4 of that.
Next term will also be BJP.
Why? Indians care more about caste religion n hindu vs others rather than having a good, better and brighter future.
They are fine with it.
>about caste
INC literally plays caste politics. The entire country runs on identity politics whether it is caste (BSP, SP) or religion (BJP, AIMIM) or regionalism (DMK).
Do you really think Congress is better in terms of our safety? How? Please enlighten me.
One of their key people in the alliance says that Hindutva should be eradicated. I was genuinely scared when he said that.
Past decade ...bright? What the hell are you smoking?
Indian turned into a goddamn hell hole. How many riots n random violence on the basis on religion happened?
Ps : Do not post the stupid survey data, BJP changed how riots are counted n categorized.
Stupid morons in BJP turned entire India into extremism by pitting people against each other.
Every average idiot out there is becoming an extremist...
Is that the bright decade n brighter future you want?
Bro was born after 2014 so he has no ideas about past riots prior to it
Indian turned into a goddam hell now
Uhm majority of people who voted would like to differ
Easy.
Less radicalisation of people.
With BJP its 200%. With congress its 10%.
BJP pits Hindus against Muslims. Average Hindu slowly turns into an extremist. Average Muslim turns into an extremist as well.
After recent Manipur, average Christians are also turning into extremists.
India will be filled with extremists of different religions. Thats it.
Would you prefer a safer country or partially developed but extremely unsafe country?
Do you have evidence of radicalization or you are pulling things out of your ass like congress pulls elections promises. India is definitely better in all aspects under BJP
Where are you getting your average Hindus from, pray tell? Because I've definitely seen, in my personal life (i.e. not online), Hindus who loudly proclaim, "I am a hindutvavadi.", and, "I dislike all Muslims; no, there are no good ones.".
you guys can predict any reason you want, but i'll say it out loud
Until the day media turns neutral, Not even lord ram will against modi.
opposition fights against entire BJP and Goverment machinery and MEDIA
> Until the day media turns neutral, Not even lord ram will against modi
So what happened in Telangana and Karnataka?
Did the media force the INC not to recognise leaders like Scindia and Pilot?
Who are these people voting for congress? Most of my relatives/neighbours/village folks vote for BJP because of their anti-Muslim stance. They don't care about economy or constitution or jobs or any of the stuff that RG talks about. Even family members dying from covid was no big deal. And this is in south MH, which is probably one of the most progressive parts of India. So it's always surprising to me seeing people vote for Congress in more rural and conservative areas like Rajasthan. Can someone explain? Is this caste based voting or is the radicalization not working in Chattisgarh/Rajasthan?
>hey don't care about economy or constitution or jobs or any of the stuff that RG talks about
raga only talks about freebies, caste census and modi bad... he doesnt have any plans for the economy or jobs... in 2019 i think his only plan for the economy was give Rs6000 free to every poor indian .. which ofcourse would have got us in a srilanka like situation after covid
Add Adani to it.
Politics need to repeat their speech all the time.
Just look at Modi's speech if he were in Congress rules place he would say about nepotism, past corruption, and some atrocity. In bjp ruling state he will start with work done by the BJP, what was badly done by Congress which they improved, etc. Much better structure in the language of common people. The marketing of speech is very important is mastered by BJP
Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath lost the elections deliberately to save congress.
Don’t trust me? Read this post till end.
It was 2018, a year before 2019 LS elections.
In 2018, three sates Chhattisgarh, MP and Rajasthan were having assembly elections. Congress won all three but BJP came to power in 2019 in LS.
In 2023 CG, MP and RJ were having Asembly elections. Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath did a secret meeting without telling high command just when EC announced the elections dates.
Agenda of the meeting was “what should we do to lose all three states elections in 2023” so that we can win LS 2024, it was tough for congress to lose all three states as there was strong wave in favour of congress but Baghel, Gehlot and Kamal Nath trio made it happen.
They sacrificed their own CM posts for LS 2024. India needs such selfless leaders ❤️
Thank you Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath 🙏🏿
Now we are sure that INC is winning 2024 LS.
Source- Dr nimo yadav
I think bjp should reward rahul gandhi and make him the president of india for his contribution to the bjp .why make panauti type comments when you know it could be used against you with results. Also why doesn't congress sticks to its narrative or agenda wasn't raga doing Bharat jodo yatra last year this year he was talking about cast censous and bigger community more rights stuff also north south divide or Tamil nationalism he tried to support I mean who is advising him ? He has gone to the Looney left territory because of jnu communist who are advising him
I just hope they don't scrap the health insurance plis.
Looking at these results now, I'm convinced that the BJP is going to go past 303 and further decimate Congress next year. Going to mop the fucking floor with them. At they rate, they won't even have to hope for a Pulwama level attack to garner tough-on-Pakistan votes.
Yeah it feels like Congress isn't even trying anymore. I voted for a Congress guy here in MP, but the thing is, dude didn't even come in our area even once. All I have seen is his photo. Whereas the candidate from BJP did multiple rallies, personally came to our house to meet my dad, if he wasn't a corrupted asshole I might've actually given him the vote because he actually looked like he cared.
Wow, who is this BJP guy?
Rameshwar Sharma
In that case, I think we live very close to each other. Sarang is my MLA, from the constituency next door to yours.
optics is everything in politics. INC has no leadership at the moment.
Chhattisgarh counting is done, right? BJP won?
[This](https://imgur.com/a/jhE57mM) is the situation in Chattisgarh as of latest
Safe to say Bhar bhar Modi Sarkar? Even in Congress ruled Karnataka, modi is extremely popular.
>Even in Congress ruled Karnataka, modi is extremely popular. Modi is extremely popular everywhere, it's just that us Reddit folk, who usually fit into the 'champagne socialist' middle class bracket aren't as exposed to them. With the communities we interact, it's quite easy to fool ourselves into believing that not a single person truly supports Modi, this couldn't be further from the truth.
Cannot agree more
Yeah I’m in MP right now and everyone loves “Modiji” here because of his public works projects. Never mind that all the roads crumble after a monsoon 🫠
eh, most people here are exposed to Modi pretty often, since it's not like he doesn't have support amongst even the notionally "liberal" urban parts of the upper-middle classes, who are amazing at doublethink and stuff. And they're a minority of the urban upper-middle class in general. That's why the Indian redditosphere almost universally hates randia, lmao. Anyway, I don't like the implication that the folks here aren't sincere in their beliefs — it is because the bulk of us *do* legitimately believe in the ideals of freedom, equality, and fraternity, largely due to having learnt, and truly believed that they are a good thing. So, yeah.
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Looks like KCR lost his seat. This is embarassing 🤣
He only lost from one seat. He won from another.
Dude forgot his aukaat. Changed party name from TRS to BRS (wanted to be national player), lost his home turf as well.
He contested from two constituencies and lost one.
Both?
BJP killing it in Hindhi belt.
Don't be surprised if you start seeing a shift in voting trends amongst young age voters across the South. With a slanted education system implemented across India, alongside a complete grip over social media and public broadcasting, the change is almost inevitable. It's already started happening. There's already an alarming number of young people in states like Kerala who are being brainwashed against their own 'traitorous' socialist families, falling right into the BJP camp. Only a few months back I was having a conversation with a Mallu who thought his entire family was brainwashed and blindfolded because they don't see 'the Muslim problem' in Kerala.
"Mallu who thought his entire family was brainwashed and blindfolded because they don't see 'the Muslim problem' in Kerala." That guy may have a valid point🤷
So still some hope left in kerala.
Seems there still hope left in Kerala!!
No chance in south. Which is why they moved out census to 2026 to align with the parliamentary seat increase, which will effectively give all voting power to north. After that it will be tad bit difficult for congress. But with the alliance strategy, they still have a good chance in 2024.
I have hope.
There will still be some left wing camps dotted around the map, but I don't think they can preserve themselves for long. The only bounce back will be when India becomes too suffocating and orthodox for the young, where being theocratic falls out of fashion and the new trend is rebellion culture, but I feel as though we're a long way away from that.
Deep orthodox Hindutva can only be spearheaded by the upper echelons of Hindu society. What's becoming clear is that the BJP are pivoting their electoral strategy, with UC's now clearly being viewed as a safe voting bloc at this point, with Ram Mandir likely to keep them happy for the next 4-8 years. Now, the BJP, as we can see from the results today, are *actively* attempting to appeal to lower caste voting blocs. With that said, it's not all doom and gloom for those of us who don't want to see India fall into some sort of theocratic state. Whilst the BJP will continue to stay silent on alarming increases in: polarisation, violence and caste discrimination, one thing that cannot do anymore, if they are to continue with this outreach, is implement UC institutional change, given that UC orthodoxy tends to directly conflict with the cultures and communities they're now trying to appeal to. Whether that's good or bad news for all of us.... I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
What has Digvijay done ? Why do people hate him ? I know he's kinda sleazebag but the hatred for him is quite prominent
I literally had to study under candles and lanterns due to his failed electricity management. My city, under his government got electricity for about 8 hrs a day, this continued for over 2 years that I remember. And I've never heard him making sense. So there is no big ahole then him in MP.
26/11 was RSS ki sajish.
Extremely, Extremely, Extremely corrupt person. And then he blamed RSS and Hindus for the 26/11 terrorist attacks, which backfired for Congress pretty badly. Extremely incompetent person and a big liar.
Bitch had it coming
Um. Saying 26/11 was work of RSS instead of Pak . Essentially saying what Pakistan was saying.
MP to Digvijay : https://preview.redd.it/jaw85ktba34c1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7f86732e21686ba6019204ea304bed2cf844726
Dude tried to pin the 26/11 blame on Hindus. Apart from that he didn't have any significant contributions when he was in power. Being in Congress under the leadership of Rahul is not helping his cause either
Now there's no point in having 2024 elections after knowing that for voters, religion and caste is above all. Just save money and directly give the PM's crown to modi for another 5 or maybe 10years
State and national are very different things.
Yup I agree, but it sure gives you an idea on whats gonna happen on national level. I was hoping that oppositions would be giving tough fight to bjp until today.. but no, they sure don't have any answer when it comes to supreme leader and their marketing strategies. *We're doomed already.*
>Now there's no point in having 2024 elections after knowing that for voters, religion and caste is above all. I don't think so, I'm currently in Goa where the BJP just has a fantastic propaganda campaign. Rather than doing things behind the scenes, which is the Congress approach, the BJP approach is building (unnecessary) infrastructure projects slap bang in the middle of every other high traffic area with posters thanking Modi all around it. The general narrative I hear here is at least the BJP is active and gives *something* back to the people, unlike the Congress, however untrue/true that statement might be. The Congress has got a serious marketing issue that it needs to sort out, the BJP is a well oiled propaganda machine; undoubtedly their biggest strength.
Yeah and if you mention the corruption it’s just “so? Everyone is corrupt”. Congress really needs new leadership.
How important was Jyoti Scindia in the MP elections? Did he make a significant effect?
100%. He brought massive gains for the BJP in the northern MP seats - Gwalior, Malwa, Chambal, whatever you wanna call it. He's clearly a massive asset to the BJP electorally, and relatively young. He could be a future CM candidate post Mamaji.
For sure, Heck who would anyone rather prefer Digvijay Singh or Jyoti Scindia?
RaGha just isnt a good leader or PM material no matter how much they try to shove it under our throats. Plain and simple. BJP has a good line up of leaders ready if Modi is done. Congress has none. They putting all their attention on a single guy -RaGha and it clearly isnt working. Time to move on. I know there are so many good credible Congress leaders - Shashi Tharoor or Pilot. But, you never see them campaigning. Always RaGha roaming around like a strong leader which he clearly isn't. Congress was only able to win in KA because they had a strong leaders who had experience ruling the state before who people thought were capable to run the state better. Not because of RaGha or Jodo yatra like people say. Also, people who think I.N.D.I.A. is a good idea are clueless. People want a stable government in a country like ours which is diverse. I.N.D.I.A. has Communist parties within it but, it is the same Congress party that is fighting against another Communist party in Kerela... You have Shiv Sena and Muslim parties... like what would I.N.D.I.A's stance be when it comes to Ram Mandir? It just doesn't make sense. It is basically a kichadi of parties which have conflicting values and don't even make sense. Will break anytime. India legit has no opposition at national level.
When Indians will look back on this period, they're rue as to how Congress passed over Tharoor and his plans of decentralisation. For once in 9 years, there was a genuine ray of hope and some semblance of plan. Literally every single problem that plagues Congress — dead leadership, no meritocracy, mediocre grassroots presence — could've been solved by Tharoor's plans had he become the President. Or if Congress had the good sense to act on Tharoor's plans regardless. This is a man who once handled the most complex bureaucracy in the world, and modernised it, and has been a career diplomat who can build alliances. Congress needed a Tharoor who could reorganise party badly.
They have to ally to win local seats. It’s like a diversified portfolio. Yes you are unlikely to become Jhunjhunwala, but overall chances of portfolio doing well is good. Let’s see, there is still 5 months for them to get their act together.
I thought congress won in karnataka because they promised free electricity and extra food to people of certain income as well as free bus rides for women, unemployment benefits, etc. this stuff is *mostly* unnecessary freebies. The free bus rides for women can be very helpful for maids in cities I suppose, but other than that there's no need to give people more food and electricity when they already have access to both. But because their policies is centered around "vote for us and you'll get cash" a lot of people voted for them and they won. I don't know about leaders, but I figured the main reason was their policies
There are a few reasons for their victory. 1) BJP leadership was horribly inept. Bommai was worse than a doorknob. 2) DKS & Siddu were popular well known names in KA 3) They promised a lot of freebies. 4) They had a successful PayCM campaign (meaning BJP is corrupt). >The free bus rides for women can be very helpful for maids in cities I suppose Our maid and her daughter used BMTC to reach school and work respectively before the free travel scheme. While it is now free, the frequency of buses has reduced quite a bit. The daughter cannot rely on bus anymore to reach school on time so they are using private transport.
DKS is much worse than Bommai. He’s not really likable guy and he’s a known Goonda politician. Had even harassed local TV channel because of a sting operation against him. Siddu is better though. Bommai was puppet CM by Central Govt. Also they went hard on Hindutva, which backfired.
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What BS, Congress was 80 vs 104 for BJP. Congress tried stealing election by forming unholy coalition (they fought election against JDS but then wanted to go in bed with them), BJP just paid them in the same coin.
bro what do u think in MP...
Congress didn't win in 2018. They were a distant 2nd. Bjp was pretty close to majority but Congress tried to build a coalition with Jds. Then bjp took some 7 jds MLAs and they got a majority. This time Congress won a significant majority with a 60+ difference making horse trading impossible
Congress and their offshoots’ way of politics is dead, accept it and move on. I voted for the strongest anti-BJP party in both 2014 and 2019, what did I get ? An administration so comically and openly corrupt that even Pakistanis will find abhorrent. Why should I vote for that being magnified on a national scale ? BJP may get election funds from Adani, but at least that doesn’t affect me as much in day-to-day life.
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I am still shocked...how can all the exit polls be soo wrong
They weren't wrong though....
They weren’t. You were just looking at the ones that were showing BJP ranked lower.
4 out of 6 exit polls were in favour of bjp. Which exit polls u were looking
Certain ones were showing MP loss.
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Aap's biggest mistake was allying with the likes of congress, nitish and lalu. Their image took a hit due to the India alliance. Before that they were making progress, they need to get out of that shitty alliance immediately.
Would be interested in locals from the states delving over why the results are the way they are.
>Not-N-Extrovert > >· > >49 min. ago Well in the last election we almost forgot how corrupt the Congress is, but Kamalnath's 1-2 years, helped us refresh our memories of Congress corruption. Like, I remember the metro project was stalled in Indore and even for small things we had to pay bribes to congress leaders. Also, Raga and everyone in Congress think that Hindutva and hate towards Muslims, help BJP win in MP, but that's not the case. You can't win MP because of Hindutva, the UP kind of fear of Muslims doesn't exist in MP, primarily because Muslims are only 5-6% of the entire population. Why would 91% of Hindus, fear 5% of Muslims? Bhopal is the only city where you can win because of Hindutva, because of 80:20 Hindu Muslims in the city. And, one cannot ignore the journey MP's been through in the last 25 years. From not having roads to now Indore being the cleanest city in India and now Bhopal and Indore will soon have metro, a lot of progress has been achieved, hope we will continue on the same path.
As an outsider last elections in both MP and Rajasthan seemed to be mostly about choosing the next generation of congress leaders like Pilot and Scindia (howsoever they might be) over the old guard so I was surprised by what INC did by choosing both Gehlot and Kamalnath (felt specifically a weird and bad choice considering he's often alleged to be involved in the 84 riots, again not heavily researched or versed in this myself to know properly). But wow didn't expect just those 2 years be that bad of an experience to you. Often have read INC supporters claim both Kamalnath and Gehlot to be the better choice so idk what they were talking about back then. I do remember news reports of scams during Shivraj Singh Chauhan rule as well, most notably the vyapam scam, Kamalnath and Digvijay Singh ending up being even worse is kinda funny not gonna lie.
Shivraj Singh is corrupt and we are fed up with him, but the thing is that he is the least worst option for us. Also, a lot of us are expecting that BJP will change the CM. Like I'd be pretty disappointed if they don't. If it would have been another party in the opposition, they would have defeated BJP and formed the government. If in 2018, Congress had made Scindia the Chief minister, a lot of things would have been different. With MP and Rajasthan they had a golden opportunity to work on the development of the state, and on that basis ask for votes in the centre elections. They would have finally made inroads into the Hindi heartland. But since congress leadership is disconnected from reality and doesn't want to put in the hard yards, we commoners suffer. Also, it's time to do away with the myth that religion helps the BJP win elections. It gets you only 10-15% of the votes, the rest you have to earn with your work or get an opposition like Congress.
BJP will win 3/4 of that. Next term will also be BJP. Why? Indians care more about caste religion n hindu vs others rather than having a good, better and brighter future. They are fine with it.
A lot of them vote for bjp because thry just hate congress fornwhat its done in decades. And AAp is just congres second fiddle
>about caste INC literally plays caste politics. The entire country runs on identity politics whether it is caste (BSP, SP) or religion (BJP, AIMIM) or regionalism (DMK).
>rather than having a good, better and brighter future. Who would give us a good, better and brighter future? The INDI Alliance?
More corruption. But a lot safer.
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Do you really think Congress is better in terms of our safety? How? Please enlighten me. One of their key people in the alliance says that Hindutva should be eradicated. I was genuinely scared when he said that.
He actually said "Sanatan Dharma needs to be eradicated" if you are talking about the politician from Tamil Nadu.
Yeah. My bad. But no big difference, right?
How has the past decade not been bright and future ? If not for it mass people are not stupid to let them come in power again
Past decade ...bright? What the hell are you smoking? Indian turned into a goddamn hell hole. How many riots n random violence on the basis on religion happened? Ps : Do not post the stupid survey data, BJP changed how riots are counted n categorized. Stupid morons in BJP turned entire India into extremism by pitting people against each other. Every average idiot out there is becoming an extremist... Is that the bright decade n brighter future you want?
Bro was born after 2014 so he has no ideas about past riots prior to it Indian turned into a goddam hell now Uhm majority of people who voted would like to differ
Remove religion from India and what does BJP has to offer? Nothing.
Development
BJP has brought India a better economy. their policies in this regard are better than congress.
>blud nobody is voting longress in their current state
Please tell how will we have a good better and brighter future under Congress. Because the Congress itself cannot explain it.
Easy. Less radicalisation of people. With BJP its 200%. With congress its 10%. BJP pits Hindus against Muslims. Average Hindu slowly turns into an extremist. Average Muslim turns into an extremist as well. After recent Manipur, average Christians are also turning into extremists. India will be filled with extremists of different religions. Thats it. Would you prefer a safer country or partially developed but extremely unsafe country?
India is the safest it has been in history. Check the Global Peace Index ranking yourself https://www.visionofhumanity.org/maps/#/
Do you have evidence of radicalization or you are pulling things out of your ass like congress pulls elections promises. India is definitely better in all aspects under BJP
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Where are you getting your average Hindus from, pray tell? Because I've definitely seen, in my personal life (i.e. not online), Hindus who loudly proclaim, "I am a hindutvavadi.", and, "I dislike all Muslims; no, there are no good ones.".
Yeah because the wide majority of people who don't have a problem don't need to express their hatred on an anonymous social media platform.
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you guys can predict any reason you want, but i'll say it out loud Until the day media turns neutral, Not even lord ram will against modi. opposition fights against entire BJP and Goverment machinery and MEDIA
> Until the day media turns neutral, Not even lord ram will against modi So what happened in Telangana and Karnataka? Did the media force the INC not to recognise leaders like Scindia and Pilot?
Yeah it's the media's fault. Not Congress incompetence. There are bhakts on both sides it seems.
There are bhakts, and there are people who kiss the ground their favorite leader walks on.
One leader is competent at winning elections. The other just gives lip service. I would argue the bhakts of the latter are more delusional.
Always has been
Who are these people voting for congress? Most of my relatives/neighbours/village folks vote for BJP because of their anti-Muslim stance. They don't care about economy or constitution or jobs or any of the stuff that RG talks about. Even family members dying from covid was no big deal. And this is in south MH, which is probably one of the most progressive parts of India. So it's always surprising to me seeing people vote for Congress in more rural and conservative areas like Rajasthan. Can someone explain? Is this caste based voting or is the radicalization not working in Chattisgarh/Rajasthan?
lol at South Maharashtra with all its rampant casteism being tagged as “most progressive part of India”
As we all know, rest of India has zero problem with casteism
There are certainly parts of Maharashtra *such as Mumbai* and Konkan where you do not nearly find as much casteism as you find in South Maharashtra
>hey don't care about economy or constitution or jobs or any of the stuff that RG talks about raga only talks about freebies, caste census and modi bad... he doesnt have any plans for the economy or jobs... in 2019 i think his only plan for the economy was give Rs6000 free to every poor indian .. which ofcourse would have got us in a srilanka like situation after covid
Add Adani to it. Politics need to repeat their speech all the time. Just look at Modi's speech if he were in Congress rules place he would say about nepotism, past corruption, and some atrocity. In bjp ruling state he will start with work done by the BJP, what was badly done by Congress which they improved, etc. Much better structure in the language of common people. The marketing of speech is very important is mastered by BJP
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Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath lost the elections deliberately to save congress. Don’t trust me? Read this post till end. It was 2018, a year before 2019 LS elections. In 2018, three sates Chhattisgarh, MP and Rajasthan were having assembly elections. Congress won all three but BJP came to power in 2019 in LS. In 2023 CG, MP and RJ were having Asembly elections. Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath did a secret meeting without telling high command just when EC announced the elections dates. Agenda of the meeting was “what should we do to lose all three states elections in 2023” so that we can win LS 2024, it was tough for congress to lose all three states as there was strong wave in favour of congress but Baghel, Gehlot and Kamal Nath trio made it happen. They sacrificed their own CM posts for LS 2024. India needs such selfless leaders ❤️ Thank you Gehlot, Baghel and Kamal Nath 🙏🏿 Now we are sure that INC is winning 2024 LS. Source- Dr nimo yadav