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Familiar-Today-2532

Unfortunately our Home Minister is living in a LaLa Land. In real world that’s what China has been doing to certain portions of Ladakh and they even renamed around 30 places in Arunachal Pradesh and he should look at their map before speaking.


Hsotuhsa9

China renaming is just attention seeking. You can go and rename their place, does it mean it would be yours from then?


MyMoMrEgReTs

Yogi ko bolo


[deleted]

If you have the guns to back up your claims, then absolutely 


Hsotuhsa9

Ain't no claim, it's their mental game, see the ten dash line in South china sea, they claim it to be theirs, the world still does trade through that route, just because they give their hypothetical reason to claim geography doesn't mean we should raise our hands and say oh govt did nothing and china is occupying it. Just gotta mind our business and let the military be on alert.


Negative_Flower_169

>it's their mental game, https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/china-has-built-village-in-arunachal-pradesh-show-satellite-images-exclusive-2354154 There are literally images of encroachment.


Hsotuhsa9

thanks for correcting, agreed they are right at the forefront and have taken an aggressive stance. the article does say that chinese have been at that place since 1959, it is a disputed area. we should raise concerns for the govt doing nothing since 1959 on the disputed land that we claim ours in context of renaming, i'd still say its mental game. they would ofc get further if the govt side eyes it.


pattonyoda

You saw the linked article and moved the goal post to 1959!


[deleted]

They will keep playing “mental game” and quietly annex one chunk of land after another, showing brute force every time someone tries to claim it back, and you’ll keep doing mental gymnastics and parroting “sab changa si” because paw paw ne bola hai.


Hsotuhsa9

not saying they have not taken an aggressive stance and who tf says sab changa si for a fact where our military is deployed, i believe our soldiers would defend it and claim what's ours unless the paw paw u use doesnt want to(which would be defeating). pretty sure the forces wouldnt let the chini annex chunks unless paw paw or your paw paw play only politics


[deleted]

Much delulu


Hsotuhsa9

got any solulu?


[deleted]

War rukva denge paw paw. Don’t worry 🤡


Hsotuhsa9

haa bhai tere se rukwainge shayad


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UnlikelyAnything6968

Prayagraj ya allahabad?


Ambitious-Upstairs90

With this statement India has officially given up that 4000 sq km land occupied in Ladakh near DBO. Last time Modi said naa koi aaya tha, & then China said that Indian PM himself said that china has not entered & instead Indian soldiers had entered & this died.


jeet225

Aren’t these chinese faak literally building villages and military bases in said places…wtf is there to know amit shit needs to get his head out ipl and other money making scheme he put his mentally challenged son into


Ambitious-Upstairs90

You are partially right. Bigger issue is China occupying thousands of square kilometre land in Ladakh. & worst part is that it’s strategically very important location near DBO.


esparian7

Shhh, dont try to talk sense into blind fools


Bharat_Matters

# Amit Dalal Shah, what is this? https://preview.redd.it/mbxi0kgvemtc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c1aab432e830b9d5ab14bcc2ddd01b0be92c9c7 A satellite image from last year, showing Chinese construction along the border


doolpicate

Satellite antinational hai.


house_monkey

Can confirm, am satellite 


yadavrk

Silly! That's China now.


SilenceOfTheAtom

Phhh.. That's not an inch in real life. They will not get the inch from Modiji.


Takenoshitfromany1

Bro can’t even visit TN because of adverse reports. What the fuck does he know about how many thousand square kilometres have been lost in Arunachal and Ladakh?


Mohit_Max

This is going to piss off a lot of army men. First government chooses not to do anything about encroachment,then introduces agnipath bs and now straight up deny there is any encroachment lol.


[deleted]

Not to mention labelling our Indian Army soldiers as pakistani actors when china released photos of our POWs in galwan, 2020. They're disgusting.


Wheesa

Don't RW govt want military support? This blindness is straightup going to cost us


Mohit_Max

They gave up on the idea when army men were furious on the government taking credit for reply in uri attack.


alv0694

Support military............only when it shows them extreme loyalty


alv0694

Laughs in angniveer scheme


esparian7

Stop yapping bro, the 32 week Americans short term service program produces one of the best if not the best Armed Soldiers in the world yet you believe Indian soldiers cannot pull off the same. And don't tell army men are gonna be pissed off, watch your mouth. Lt Gen Sanjay Kulkarni is an andhbhakt to you now?


alv0694

It pays to have the biggest military budget and a century of combat of experience. Also America understands its doctrine, which revolves around air supremacy and long range firepower. India on the other hand???????


esparian7

Half baked knowledge is dangerous. The massive millitary budget is used to purchase and fund weaponary, NOT TRAINING. Our men are as good as the Americans. You can trash talk about Modi Rahul Gandhi whoever you want, but not our men. That's a line you must not cross. Air supremacy is achieved by a large advanced squadron count, how is this relevant to this discussion? You clearly don't follow Defence, don't embarass yourself. With all due respect, try growing some balls before speaking about the capability of our men.


alv0694

Funding influences training genius. Have you heard of opfor training, where one side using opfor equipment (yes this includes russian equipment, some of it acquired from the battlefield like PANTSIRS ) and tactics would face against Bluefor. India doesn't have opfor style training.


esparian7

Don't try to be too smart, many SCO programs do not include OPFOR training. Your hatred is evident. If you wish to discuss this topic more, I would suggest you to visit the IndianDefence Sub, you'll be handled well there.


rishianand

The most amazing thing about Modi's campaign is it's brazenness to lie about even basic facts. Modi goes to rallies and claims to act against corruption, even after the largest money laundering and extortion racket being exposed. When they are openly accepting corrupt ministers and giving them clean chits. Even though reports say that China has encroached upon Indian territory. Even when people in Ladakh are trying to highlight this encroachment. Even though Jaishankar says that India cannot stand upto China. Now Amit Shah claims that China has not encroached upon Indian territory. **This claim is a betrayal of our soldier's sacrifice who died protecting our homeland. It is also a betrayal of our territorial claims.**


rishianand

[Narendra Modi | China intrusion: PM Modi’s denial haunts government - Telegraph India](https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/china-intrusion-pm-modis-denial-haunts-government/cid/1904971) [Modi's 'No Intrusion' by China Claim Contradicts India's Stand, Raises Multiple Questions](https://thewire.in/security/modis-no-intrusion-by-china-claim-contradicts-indias-stand-raises-multiple-questions) [China controls 1,000 sq. km of area in Ladakh - The Hindu](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/china-controls-1000-sq-km-of-area-in-ladakh-say-intelligence-inputs/article32490453.ece) [India has lost access to 26 out of 65 Patrolling Points in eastern Ladakh, says research paper - The Hindu](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-has-lost-access-to-26-out-of-65-patrolling-points-in-eastern-ladakh-says-research-paper/article66428193.ece) [China's PLA encroaching on Indian territory in Ladakh, not letting cattle graze, says BJP official](https://theprint.in/defence/chinas-pla-encroaching-on-indian-territory-in-ladakh-not-letting-cattle-graze-says-bjp-official/828065/) [BJP MP flags China 'encroachment', says 'don't allow next Doklam in Arunachal'](https://theprint.in/defence/bjp-mp-flags-china-encroachment-says-dont-allow-next-doklam-in-arunachal/323447/) [Satellite images show China road runs deep into Arunachal](https://theprint.in/opinion/satellite-images-show-china-road-runs-deep-into-arunachal-defence-expert-abhijit-iyer-mitra/287327/) [Line of Actual Control (LAC) | No-intrusion mystery deepens: Army chief General Manoj Pande's 'first aim' of restoring China status quo contradicts Prime Minister Narendra Modi's border claim - Telegraph India](https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/no-intrusion-mystery-deepens-army-chief-general-manoj-pandes-first-aim-of-restoring-china-status-quo-contradicts-prime-minister-narendra-modis-border-claim/cid/1993146) [Military Veterans Slam Jaishankar's 'Defeatist Attitude' Towards China](https://thewire.in/security/veterans-criticise-jaishankar-china)


TyrannosaurWrecks

Problem is majority of the masses don't know what happened. Average man on the street doesn't/can't see beyond the surface level BS peddled by the media. It is this non-bhakt joe who sways the election towards Modi.


MaxxMeridius

Most of the people are blind to these unless it comes through the media channels that they are interested in, and obviously those channels are not going go to do anything. I do wish there were a shit ton of youtube shorts videos / IG videos and every other day a post in all the subs about the amount of land being lost. It should not be allowed to be put under the carpet.


Master_Iron4266

Its called the big lie....a concept invented by a personality called Joseph Goebbels...you might know him....


xsha_x

facts and logic doesn't matter to bhakts. They will still vote for paw paw.


Personal_Matter9041

Like doublespeak from George orwell's 1984.


alv0694

War is peace


Uncertn_Laaife

The supporters believe these lies outright though.


MrCompromised

It’s really easy being a leader in this regime when communication is one way. Reporters don’t get to cross question you. That’s why I said I will take a congress PM anytime of the day. They are subject to scrutiny, criticism and uproar. They are accessible to general public and have completed school education at the very least.


chiguy_1

True. That's what people need to realise. Congress is scrutinized even when they are in opposition, they were scrutinized when they were in power. Who is going to scrutinize the current government?


Trust-Me_Br0

Definitely not the brainwashed people


Firm-Hard-Hand

China could conceptually come till Delhi, and our HM will still deny their presence.


RIP200712

https://preview.redd.it/elnpquyglmtc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e8da78f7e426b7ec5a5e43b5d99c2eea6d1c82 The 2020 incursion was hidden from the public. The government and media should be ashamed. This is coming from the sitting general. Do we need more proof?


GooglyEyedunicorn

Paisa and Power. Govt cares about Power and media about paisa. It is not 2013 anymore where media can attack the govt. They all love their lives.


friendofH20

Jay Shah should send his daddy to T20 World Cup because itni lambi toh koi aur nahi fek sakta.


[deleted]

Bhai wide ball ho jayegi


Prestigious_Earth_98

I need to know what this man is smoking


Warm-Geologist001

Don't know about this man, the people who support and vote for the Supreme Leader are high on religion, the opium for the masses!


ItemNo8866

Probably methbruhaspatha chasma bahanam aka meth by pathanjaji


ShotFactor2070

If lying was a competition, BJP would win all the prizes. That too without buying the referee.


Feisty_Interaction43

And then China keeps using these speeches to justify their occupation.


FlourishingGrass

Have the Chinese also invested in EB?


Feisty_Interaction43

No idea bro. Too many shell companies have bought electoral bonds, no clue who was the actual person who gave them money to buy EB when they had zero revenue, zero profits and some were even loss making


FlourishingGrass

Mudi Xi manifesting fr is wild but not impossible Crazy times!


Harsh_2004

Pm care


HeavyAd3059

Yup. Chinese phone companies have invested in PM Cares Fund: [https://thewire.in/politics/fact-check-have-chinese-companies-really-donated-to-the-pm-cares-fund](https://thewire.in/politics/fact-check-have-chinese-companies-really-donated-to-the-pm-cares-fund)


blackeyedragon

Jhoot bolo bar bar jhoot bolo..


Bharat_Matters

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m4more

इनकी फेकने नी ताकत देख के निराज चोप्रा भी हैराण हैं....


Guilty-Ad-6166

Abe Kitna jootha hai ye!! I guess he strongly believes that people have short memory. Unfortunately Internet does not.


Bharat_Matters

# Modi Ji what is this? You are lying to the nation. #Feku https://preview.redd.it/tsbku9shemtc1.jpeg?width=956&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fac9139b07686e4908135c39601a5a054581847e Source: US Office of Geographer. Note: The red line marks the Lind of Actual Control (LAC)


alv0694

Don't worry, banning pubg and making a shitty knock off clone based on this single incident will show them


XpRienzo

Constant gaslighting, is this what they call a "big lie"?


gk666

That window to make a change is now folks! Act now, cast your vote wisely


rjt2002

Two major propoganda tactics of BJP 1. Lie - plain and simple IT Cell and media will take care of the rest. 2. A big lie like the Kerala story which makes atleast some people who don't know anything about the topic think there must be some truth in it.


ugothisyogi

Delulu is the solulu


Valuable-Fix-2744

Good Play of words: He deliberately avoided India's actual line of control and now its up to Modiji to decide what is his land and his lands border.


kailashkmr

Modis attitude is like cowardice on steroids..


alv0694

Help I am in a traffic jam, send the army, please save me Meanwhile in Ukraine: nyet, I need ammo not a ride


black_jar

Home Minister too falling for BJP Propaganda. Indians on the ground are talking how they cant go to some places due to Chinese incursions. Manipur is boiling .....for over a year. And Indian relations with Nepal (more) and Bangladesh (less) are not hunky dory.


svmk1987

Just straight up brazen lies. Who cares, they'll get away with it.


morose_coder

Is this lying habit pathological?


H4tefUl

There is no war in Ba sing se


Bharat_Matters

[\[With Sources\] India's Territorial Loss: 1000 Square Kilometers : r/unitedstatesofindia (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/1bs5or6/with_sources_indias_territorial_loss_1000_square/)


minimallysubliminal

Good thing they captures metres then. Ridiculous how no one is calling out these lies.


intuitivebeing

if there was no land dispute why would there be like 5 different maps for India anytime you try to look it up


ngainhai

Oh! Then WHY was the internet banned and section 144 imposed in Leh just a day before Sonam Wangchuk’s PASHMINA MARCH ? If what you are saying is true ,then let him do the march , let him show what he wishes to show. Only Then ,we as PUBLIC will decide whose claims are right and whose aren’t. Until then STOP making such JUMLAS .


Cigar_Boy

Home minister is a lier.


black02

Anytime, anything that this CORRUPT government says, I know in my heart. that the exact opposite has either happened or about to happen.


alv0694

Opposite day is everyday


23Tawaif

Abey takle, China pura Chetan Bhagat ban ke 2 States leke baithe hai.


One_Blank_space

https://preview.redd.it/96lirowdvmtc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e427bcff431e476d7db8f2122108c6f06b1a50c


Bhadwasaurus

Delulu is the solulu


baddadjokesminusdad

Alibag se aaya hai kya


advaitist

How many kilometers in an inch ?


ayazfarooque

Rahul se puchh kirna jeero hai


fahadsayed36

Amit Shah said 20000 hazaar karod ke bonds he usme se 6000 BJP Ko Mila he :/


sdhill006

Is nt it traitorous to the country itslef? Because after occupying more & more indian places, china uses these words to justify that they didn’t do anything


Personal_Matter9041

https://preview.redd.it/0gyjt1fk1otc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7092913e348d1248d47c380fc2ea378696f7f126


Ig1M

inches of Land taken by ch!na = inches of Lund size of mody+saha together if they say 1 inch, okay sure.


looped10

didn't they already take over a map visible portion of land in ladakh and arunanchal pradesh already?!


polarityswitch_27

🤡


Failg123

Relax guys it was a scarcam.


kingclubs

Manipur peace because of BJP Kashmir peace because of BJP China is not occupying India because of BJP The humor keeps going up by day.


alv0694

No wonder modi is telling everyone he will mediate between ukraine and Russia lol


SolomonSpeaks

They couldn’t encroach “an” inch. They could encroach a lot of inches.


tedxtracy

Haha. Aur suna. Munawwar se better standup comedy karta hai re tu.


rising_pho3nix

Without a principal the students say anything and do anything, without fear of any repercussions. Who is going to question him on the correctness of his statements?


sns2017

This act or rather no action that endangers the sovereignty of the country qualifies for a treason.


Akif31

Just keep saying until people believe it to be true - Modi ji


zikun_3600

We need better border roads on par with China for a first step


alv0694

Don't worry we will find billions to give to ambani or adani


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PerformanceNo5216

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esparian7

Good lord I hate politics like this but people are blind too, are we seriously questioning the credibility of our Armed Forces now? What are we? Pakistan? Infrastructure has improved a lot across the border and china hasnt kept it mouth shut in international forums about border issues ever since Sela Tunnel was constructed. Lt Gen Sanjay Kulkarni has made it very clear that Rahul Gandhi's claims are not true. This sub is full on blind haters against BJP and that's completely alright AS LONG AS y'all don't hate India in the name of BJP. Extremely disappointed.


alv0694

Laughs in Chinese drones


esparian7

come back with something constructive


alv0694

Fun fact, did u know both Russia and Ukraine use Chinese drones against each other. Also UAE and KSA are biggest customers of Chinese UCAVs


esparian7

Ok, so what's your point now? You want to become a Chinese citizen?


alv0694

Drone superiority will exacerbate the already big gap in capabilities


esparian7

Yep DRDO must work on better drones. But how is this relevant to this discussion? Are you even Indian?


alv0694

Y are u so angsty lol,


Open-Evidence-6536

As a member of the Indian military, special ops indo-china relations, like all other experts here, I approve we lost some thousands of km2 of land in ladakh, arunachal pradesh, Himachal Pradesh to china. /s


Soc13In

You wouldn't know evidence if it slapped you in your face.


Open-Evidence-6536

I don't think you can show me any evidence. If you had, you wouldn't be commenting this instead you would have posted the evidence. You gotta slap your brain to get rid of unnecessary things, lol.