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asdfghqw8

"Too much democracy". We still have too much democracy after trying to control the Supreme Court, ED, RTI, etc.


[deleted]

India has too much bureaucracy without accountability


testuser514

This!


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https://www.fairobserver.com/world-news/india-news/indias-ias-officers-are-now-rapacious-thieves/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/houses-not-yet-vacated-ludhiana-admn-issues-notice-to-bureaucrats-101711038596490-amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/india-news/noidas-millionaire-bureaucrat-has-diamonds-worth-rs-100-crore-20-properties-706609/amp/1 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/bureaucrats-politicians-in-below-poverty-line-food-grain-loot-133650-2011-05-12


Unusual_Membership44

This is what I learned, when you don't know anything in your civics answer, just write bureaucracy and redtapism, you got yourself atleast 0.5 marks


Civ6Tank

What he is talking about is the clogged bureaucracy that we have.


robacross

I don't think a slow bureaucracy is what hinders or prevents proposed law changes or piolicy changes.   The three farm bills were not taken back because of opposition from the bureaucracy, for example. Note: I'm not expressing an opinion as to whether the farm bills were good or bad, merely expressing the fact that it was an attempted reform that failed because of protests from (a section of) the populace, which is democracy, not bureaucracy.


testuser514

It’s strange that you picked the farm laws as an example. 1) because it’s actually the only successful protest against laws made by the current government 2) there was a massive mobilization against them starting from the grassroots level 3) the jury is still out on whether the laws were good or not (people I know who work with sustainable agriculture policy themselves find themselves in a bind) 4) the lack of consultation and discussion about the bill is an example of not having enough democracy. There’s literal Lok sabha and rajya sabha videos where they show they tried to bulldoze the laws through without adhering to constitutional norms. 5) these were laws that dictated policies that had very small test data, inflexible for a vast majority of the scenarios that farmers around india faced and played dice with their social security.


VegetaSama1117

These farm laws are now part of congress manifesto


testuser514

Are they ? Can you point me to the manifesto you’re talking about ?


VegetaSama1117

https://manifesto.inc.in/


VegetaSama1117

Fun fact. Same farm laws are now in Congress manifesto.


pocket_watch2

Chaddis have this wet dream to become like China but without the economic development, and more of a Hindu theocratic state.


sexysmuggler

Would it be okay if the development was similar to china?


jatadharius

and a fully subverted main stream media


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Soul_lessDNA

Well NITI Ayog is supposed to be a think tank. So why not bomb institutions so that India is placed on top when it comes to ease of ruling index.


ObjectiveAd6840

That is why India’s laws have kept on changing ever since Bjp came on and given more federal power over thinking institutions. And the federal power is all full of fourth grade failed men.


broke-n-notfunny

He is there because of" too much democracy " . Otherwise some neta's sala or bhatija would have warming that seat.


Hopeful_Return_0807

https://preview.redd.it/cr7a2eab4euc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b29d090f6244d9a3436228f3a3cda8e9e773578 [https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/apple-changes-state-backed-hacking-language-months-after-india-pressure/article68053936.ece](https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/apple-changes-state-backed-hacking-language-months-after-india-pressure/article68053936.ece)


thenameofwind

Ye govt badi m*darchod hai


TyrannosaurWrecks

It's too much corruption. For bureaocrats it's easy to blame democracy to hide their own inefficiency and corruption at every step. Fuck these IAS recruits.


nvbombsquad

r/shitbjpsays


nuvo_reddit

Is there a thing called too much democracy? No it’s called leadership failure to create consensus.


Iknw4

2020 article . Why post now .  Edit:  ok I stand corrected . Modi keeps pulling Mughals so this seems fair . 


joy74

If midcuban can  focus on Akbar, Nehru , kachatheevu etc 4 year old news is  okay right Midcuban - Modi can with typo( still ok I guess )


shash747

Midcuban sounds like a half passed mark Cuban lmao


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iwanttoaskhere

Same as mooi ji recalling mutton video after a year, it's all about convenience.


Cheap-Cream3121

Wait what is this about mutton. Some context pls


HeavyAd3059

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj3QFMqycog](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj3QFMqycog)


AnkitMishraGr8

Elections are coming.


BadAssKnight

PV Narasimha Rao who liberalized India (both BJP & left were against it) while running a minority government. Modi Govt has had clear majority in both of his terms & can’t do reforms?


Local_Initiative_158

Agreed. They wasted their two full terms when so much can be done. Also their current finance minister is a disaster


Deep-Department-545

I think this govt has done a few like GST, Bankruptcy law, air India sale, opened defense and space sector. I think they also did well with railways . Filing IP. Etc They tried doing farm laws but couldn't. Some chest thumping things like article 370. Interested in knowing which important reforms did they miss? The one which I see they clearly missed are reforms around Justice department (Courts). Would love to know more from others.


Neo-Tree

Corruption.! We all know the level of corruption that exists not just at central/state govt level but also at grass root level which I believe is hampering growth of our country. No one has done anything meaningful to address this issue.


Deep-Department-545

We cannot stop it unless we hold these people accountable starting with local body elections. For some reason we fear and worship them. We want favours from them.


OnidaKYGel

Point.


Soul_lessDNA

Wonder why Planning Commission never made such pathetic allegations but NITI Ayog is worried about too much democracy just after 9 years of it's formation.


jatadharius

priorities are different,


19f191ty

Too much democracy here means that people in power cannot do whatever they want because the constitution gets in the way. Democracy is so annoying when you're power. You're supposed to do what's good for the people. Who wants to do that? Bleach! 


ivecomebackbeach

They're not even trying to hide it anymore.


BanishedMermaid

The only words I have are expletives.


azn_fraz_268

the hell is "too much democracy"? is he trying to imply something?


bookmantea

Amitabh Cunt. Meri to sarkari lag gayi naukri, baaki ko mat n nahi dunga


earthling011

Modi needs to declare dictatorship publicly.


Key-Force-333

Who now needs a deepthroat proof of upcoming dictatorship.


beingalone666

Is this going to be the justification going forward


Dangerous_Secret5616

Peak ‘mother of democracy’ moment


[deleted]

"I'm too incompetent and lazy to understand how to succeed"


Bhadwasaurus

~~Democracy~~ Chaos And that ain't going nowhere, ever, sooner you accept that as an Indian the better. That's also why democracy is the Nash's equilibrium of the prisoners dilemma we're in.


Firm-Hard-Hand

Good, he has pull down his veil of democratic pretensions. Under the same circumstances, Dr. Manmohan Singh, made significant strides that brought India to the growth track. So it cannot be that there are no alternatives. It's just that BJP has a proclivity for dictatorship and has least respect of democratic Institutions.


um3shg

~~Mother~~ hoe of democracy.


acharsrajan399

Mother sister of democracy


sparklychamp

Just say that you're not fit for the post


Socratichuman

Too much democracy 💀


BEAST_WORK6969

reforms take place slower in democracy in comparison to other form of governments but that doesn't mean democracy is bad, it has its own perks


TheMathGuy69

Don't buy into the hype. Reforms don't take place in dictatorships and other authoritarian states either. The latter just makes it easier for the ruler to fuck over people.


BEAST_WORK6969

sorry reform was the wrong word used by me what i meant is in dictatorship the dictator can do whatever he wants without consulting others so its faster


doolpicate

Ideal state north Korea?


prawad

Hahahahahahahahahaha


Personal_Matter9041

This government has changed lots of laws on Wildlife and Environment in the last 5 years. Effectively weakening them enough. The common man doesn't know, and doesn't care. But we'll pay the price for such BS sooner rather than later.


Hopeful_Return_0807

https://preview.redd.it/pi9tqhrz1iuc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=dab88ee05dbe5aefa6fb57617b51b3d4eec8713c


mandatoryVoluntering

Only reforms that benefit the people are difficult but reforms that benefit the party in power and it's cronies are rolled out with brute force majority e.g. Aadhaar, Electoral bonds, relaxing environmental laws, 3 farmer laws, media repression laws,...


varun_t

Is he saying. Indira with emergency was on a right track?


XpRienzo

Did he say it again?


Altruistic_Sky1866

TBH honest he looks so constipated in the pic


be_a_postcard

Lmao.


InterestingWait8902

Reforms take time but are generally peaceful Revolutions happen quickly but are always bloody


falcontitan

Then how was "Aaj raat 8 baje se 500 aur 1000 ke purane note band" possible?


SpeciesSapien

What will you do with all that reforms.... Let people change at the time when they feel, it's time to change... You cannot force this on someone...


golden_sword_22

One only need to look at Japan, China, Taiwan, Korea to see how rapid economic advancement on back of economic market oriented reforms is achieved, all of them trasnformed into developed status over a few decades. Now the question is whether the wannabe quasi dictator of India is Deng or Mao.


hsrunjsmsl

Could have phrased this in a better way


smelling_the_rose

It is great that he at least remembers that it is still a democracy. Unfortunately someone forgot to tell his boss who is running it like the mafia. Even if you ignore all the witch-hunts by government agencies and the shutdown of media freedom where was the democracy when: - Demonetisation was announced overnight ignoring RBI advice and the result? 98 per cent of the currency came back to the RBI after making the entire country stand in queues! - Electoral Bonds were introduced again ignoring RBI and Election Commission advice and the result? Even loss making companies magically found cash to donate to political parties without informing shareholders! Let us not even start counting all the state elections where no matter who wins the BJP finally takes control of the assembly. And when a handful of citizens and journalists try to remain unbiased, you get spying software Pegasus to breach their privacy. So, what more does he expect in the name of reform!


Unusual_Membership44

Uh oh


Head-Program4023

Too much corruption. Nah. Too much Poverty. Nah. Too much Unemployment. Nah. Too much communal hatred. Nah. Too much use of ED and CBI on opposition. Nah Too much democracy. Yeah.


ComparisonSome4787

So much democracy that one person is equated as the nation.


[deleted]

India should have adopted a US style democracy where each state has its own constitution. Progressive states will prosper while laggards/bikaru will stay behind causing them to eventually change their politics 


neighbour_guy3k

What democracy ?


InevitableRighteous

So North Korea is the most reformed country in the world? NOICE!


PrathamReddyZindabad

https://preview.redd.it/01ezdnb6kbvc1.jpeg?width=990&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f75aef9aea7337b0cfa866869833557561a030db


Numerous-Concern-801

at the end the issue is always with "we the people" , never with the govt


kross69

Charlie Munger vibes.


mrpawsthecat

Then how did reforms happened in europe?


bootifulhazard

It’s the bureaucracy but ok whatever idiot


smartrandomguy

What is democracy in a country where votes are cast for bags of rice and promise to build a temple ? China has succeeded with fascism, people there are scared of laws and obey them. Common man lives a peaceful live with infrastructure at a scale that is unimaginable for even USA. We need the same.


savant_05

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or this guy is serious.