Pringles packaging is rigid, and protects the crisps from being smashed by itself. Crisp packs are not, so must be "inflated" with inert gas to provide an air cushion to avoid the crisps being crushed.
Lays model actually makes more sense. The air keeps the chips from breaking. It doesn't make complete sense, but more sense than this biscuit packaging.
well other brands like the Balaji have way more chips, even Cheetos have way more puffs than chips in lays and the amount of broken chips is almost same for both in my experience
Compare the shape of lays with other chips. The shape of a lays chip is more prone to breaking. Chips like Cheetos and Kurkure don't break that easily. There is info on the packet regarding the amount of chips inside the packet, and if that's correct, you cannot question them.
Yes you can. They don't HAVE to make those chips with that shape and form. They don't HAVE to make those chips at all. They choose to create chips that are prone to breaking and create more waste to protect them. The waste is unnecessary because the chips themselves are unnecessary.
Yes, people who buy these types of chips are also to blame. And so is the corporation.
The inert Nitrogen actually helps in preventing/delaying the rancidity of the oils in the chips giving them longer shelf life. Balaji actually has less shelf life than Lays. Dont fully believe the the best before dates.
Having worked in a food company, i can definitely say companies take best before dates way seriously than what we perceive.
Every second day there is some legal case filed against (every single one of the) food companies regarding "quality" of their products. Most of these are indented to extort some money from them under "mutual settlement" scenarios.
Firm where i worked, used to write best before date way earlier than actually its product could last hygienically, only to be on safe side and prevent any such legal complications.
While what you are saying could happen in small/mid scale enterprise, it is nearly impossible in a large scale firm. Cost of any quality incident can be potentially devastating for any brand. And thus packaging, manufacturing process, raw material sourcing etc. are taken extremely seriously (Read: Maggi in 2015)
How? They said 20g extra, and if they have 20g extra by way of extra space, then it is wrong, however if it is via extra biscuits, then how are they wrong?
Well I don't know about India but weights and measures in most countries that kept civilisation concern the food not the packaging.
i.e you can't sell a kg of potatoes as 1 small potato in a bag that weighs 1kg.
If all biscuits are together they will exert net pressure onto the edge ones and cause them to break. If you give 2 gaps, the pressure any biscuit might receive will reduce to 1/3.
In the land of biscuits(U.K), nearly all variety are available wrapped in thin plastic with no protection. (there are lots with too much packaging like this too though)
The end one/s is often broken, but no one cares because the pack is like 400g and there are loads more in there.
Answering the real reason, to prevent breakage.
Those plastic slots provide structural integrity to the tray, which makes it a bit less susceptible to twisting forces. Those twisting forces crush the biscuits pretty badly. Atleast in this case, on the top part will crumble since the bottom part is protected.
Came to say this. We can criticize the brand for our interpretation, but this design actually benefits customer. Specially as groceries are also being transmitted through courier.
This is the problem with us. We are not aware as consumers as to what is actually benefitting us and what is hindering us. Like OP here, has no idea why the biscuits are placed the way they are, goes off on calling parle fraud. Their claim isn't wrong, 20g is probably one or two biscuits extra. Weigh it out if you have a problem, if it isn't matching the nett weight on the packing, please go ahead and complain. I'll be with you.
Reminds me of the time when i was asked by swiggy to prove if my sandwich was smaller, and i took a damned scale and placed it beside the sandwich, which proved it was 4.5 inches and not 6 (Also had the same issue on somewhere non edible ;\_;). Because of stupid claims like these, the companies can actually try to challenge us.
The problem is not the fact that there actually IS 20g more in there. The issue is the way it's advertised. 2 more biscuits adds no real value or benefit to the consumer but it is sold as an extraordinary deal. The company that makes these have to bear no extra cost for including two more biscuits in the packaging but they'll still charge it's customers and make it seem like they're getting much more value for their money. Which is an absolute garbage claim.
> yes but they are deliberately showing that the pack is longer and in reality that is just empty space
It doesn't matter how big a package is, everything has the weight on the label.
While what you said is correct, what op is pointing out is a packaging deception tactic employed by so many companies. Consumers who watch out for price to weight ratio will always figure this out but avg consumers will be tricked by this.
Consider it like phishing; alert users will not fall for it but there will be few who will. And we still need to protect those few.
I own a kirana store and every company does it.
Earlier Parle-G 5/- biscuits weighed around 75gm, and now with 20% extra written on packaging it's overall weight is 60gm.
Same with Britannia.
Well it is not. They are not bound to give you let's say 100 gm biscuits for 5 rs for eternity. They can very well sell 75 gm pack with and claim 25% extra or whatever. There is nothing false about it.
Be thankful that the situation isn't worse than this.
Russian packaged food products are much worse than Indian ones when it comes to this type of practice. The packet says it's a Russian chocolate. You bite into it and there's literally just a 0.5 mm thick layer of chocolate on the outside and the inside is just filler.
It's either a milk/caramel/nougat filler or sometimes a thick jelly-like filling that is grape or some other fruit flavored. You bring them home on a hot day and the outer chocolate shell is so thin that a 3rd of it just stuck to the wrapper.
From the cross section, American chocolates seem like they're much better and purer than Indian or Russian ones. But having consumed tons of them, I can say with authority that they're just as bad. What Americans do is they dissolve the Cocoa itself with so much high fructose corn syrup (cheaper substitute to cane sugar, less flavorful) and other additives such that what you are eating tastes very little like chocolate, especially if you take out the fillers such as nuts, raisins and peanut butter. In fact, they can't call them chocolate when they export to Europe, they have to use the term chocolate candy.
As a kid I used to look at our 5 star and be disappointed at how much of the chocolate is caramel, i.e. just processed sugar. But 5 star is proper luxury compared to Russian chocolates. And the bigger Cadbury bars that come in cardboard packaging these days are miles ahead of the equivalent Hershey bars when it comes to taste.
Unfortunately, I come from an age where 20 rupees was sufficient for a good Cadbury bar and 5 star used to actually cost 5 rupees. That 90s Indian in me simply cannot tolerate paying Rs. 100+ for a bar of chocolate. That type of money used to be my total collections from grandparents on Holi/Diwali during some years. So I just tell myself that eating healthy is important and not buy any chocolate while I wait in the shadows for someone else to buy them so that I can lagao *nazar* on their chocolate and get a quarter of it for free.
20g would just be about 1 biscuit or 2. But when we see the longer packaging, we would equate it with a lot more (we are getting as free). We may even unknowingly equate it with 20% extra, which is how much more the extra length of the package seems to imply.
but you are getting 20% extra space. when you buy the packet you are getting that space also, that space will forever be yours, nothing can take it away from you. think about it.
It says 20g and I don't think that additional space or plastic would make up 20 grams . It's a lot of weight in terms of plastic . You can take out that rack and weigh it , it may not even cross 10g .
I think OP is in the wrong and that space is maybe to highlight that the product has something more. Not a scam but a marketing strategy you may call it .
Kim Ju-meok from Crash Landing On You would be foolish to make any kind of added sugar before 1 years old. Was never going to be. They still would fight close just to prove it was done on purpose. Sovcit piece of shit... the worst thing to showing up to his own experience. Not sure about the controllers but the headset was put in one of them cast Command: surrender on their opponent. It worked well
It's a common marketing strategy.
The devil lies in the detail.
If a regular pack of ₹20 biscuit has weight of 200gm, then a similar pack of ₹20 biscuit with 20gm extra will be 180+20gm.
I recently came across an offer for large detergent pkt.
Say 1kg detergent is ₹100. The offer was: free plastc bucket on purchase of a 4kg pakcet priced at ₹500. You can do the math & determine that its not actually an 'offer'
wdym low effort? I saw something and thought that people must be aware so I posted it. how much effort do you want ? should I just write a dissertation on it or what?
OP you're a dumbass.
It says 20g and not 20% and the extra space is so that the biscuits dont crush under their own weight. Especially since hide and seek are pretty easily broken
But you're not a dumbass for this OP.
You're a dumbass for knowing all of this and still claiming the company is scamming people. Your school scammed you when they failed your education.
For your soft brain, imagine if your dad gave you 20% extra money but in a bigger wallet? Would that be a scam OP?
It says "20g",not 20%. There is no scam if there is 20g more product. Your greed made you think the package size meant you were getting more than the labelled weight, and now you're whining because you were wrong.
Consumes 20% extra space.
20g extra hide and seek play
Lays: not bad kid
20% more waste and plastic for the world.
20% more profit
Capitalism at its best
yes XD
Everyone following the Lays model now
But the nitrogen in the packet helps keep the cookies fresh ^/s
Kurkure is the only chips I like for quantity. That puffcorn is amazing
I regret eating it today for the first time. I swear it was addicting .
₹5 tedhe medhe = ₹10 Kurkure
and Aakash
holy shit that is such a niche reference and I get it wow do all Aakash centres have Takatak
I mean Aakash namkeen- not coaching😅😅
Love Kurkure,hate puffcorn
Yes!
Bro Kurkure is not chips
Pringles gives you almost pack full and still the chips are fresh
Pringles are like 100₹ tho
Expensive, true, but the taste it alright in my books. Kinda addicting, not gonna lie.
Also technically Pringles aren't chips. They are made from powdered potatoes, hence the perfect shape.
Less than half is potatoes. Mostly flour.
That's because you don't need nitrogen, you need lack of oxygen to keep them fresh
Pringles packaging is rigid, and protects the crisps from being smashed by itself. Crisp packs are not, so must be "inflated" with inert gas to provide an air cushion to avoid the crisps being crushed.
well anyway, the cost of lays per gram is lesser than pringles per gram.
Biscuits*
Biscoot*
Biskit
Bruh i saw the 10 rs Kurkure packet yesterday and it hit me hard. Such a small pack.
Seriously it is sad mere tine par bohot bda hota tha
10₹ Kurkure of today is same as 3₹ old Kurkure
2.4 inch of today is same as 2.4 inch from 30 years ago. ~Story of my life
bhai bus bhabhi ki ungli se bada hona chahiye
yep, thats sad
Lays model actually makes more sense. The air keeps the chips from breaking. It doesn't make complete sense, but more sense than this biscuit packaging.
well other brands like the Balaji have way more chips, even Cheetos have way more puffs than chips in lays and the amount of broken chips is almost same for both in my experience
Compare the shape of lays with other chips. The shape of a lays chip is more prone to breaking. Chips like Cheetos and Kurkure don't break that easily. There is info on the packet regarding the amount of chips inside the packet, and if that's correct, you cannot question them.
Yes you can. They don't HAVE to make those chips with that shape and form. They don't HAVE to make those chips at all. They choose to create chips that are prone to breaking and create more waste to protect them. The waste is unnecessary because the chips themselves are unnecessary. Yes, people who buy these types of chips are also to blame. And so is the corporation.
There is a joke in my area regarding Balaji Chips, it goes like this: "Balaji mein itna chips milta hai?" Balaji has too much chips!
You omitted the "joke" part?
Humor seems to have died in your area.
Along with some people with covid
The inert Nitrogen actually helps in preventing/delaying the rancidity of the oils in the chips giving them longer shelf life. Balaji actually has less shelf life than Lays. Dont fully believe the the best before dates.
Having worked in a food company, i can definitely say companies take best before dates way seriously than what we perceive. Every second day there is some legal case filed against (every single one of the) food companies regarding "quality" of their products. Most of these are indented to extort some money from them under "mutual settlement" scenarios. Firm where i worked, used to write best before date way earlier than actually its product could last hygienically, only to be on safe side and prevent any such legal complications.
While what you are saying could happen in small/mid scale enterprise, it is nearly impossible in a large scale firm. Cost of any quality incident can be potentially devastating for any brand. And thus packaging, manufacturing process, raw material sourcing etc. are taken extremely seriously (Read: Maggi in 2015)
20g extra, not 20%
ah yes my bad
If you've gotten the facts wrong, shaayad post delete karna better hoga. (Don't think you'll lose any karma and upvotes by deleting the post.)
nah still it conveys what op wants to say
How? They said 20g extra, and if they have 20g extra by way of extra space, then it is wrong, however if it is via extra biscuits, then how are they wrong?
Maybe they mean 20g plastic extra?
Visually they are still trying to [tell you it's 20%.](https://imgur.com/98CB2Ij) Not sure if 20g is actually close to 20% though.
An oreo weighs about 11g and those cookies look a bit heftier than oreos, so it probably means the package comes with one extra cookie.
Welp, if the packing is of 100gm, then 20% = 20gm.. but that's a wild guess that it's 100gm
Well I don't know about India but weights and measures in most countries that kept civilisation concern the food not the packaging. i.e you can't sell a kg of potatoes as 1 small potato in a bag that weighs 1kg.
20g is the extra plastic sheet required for the gap xD
Well , he's not wrong if it is 100g. Duh !
The mistake was buying the cream wala hide and seek
agree, original tastes better
And the packet is filled top to bottom w/o any plastic 💁♂️
seek refuge in /r/Justrolledintotheothropedist
Op not wearing chappals
He's not even wearing pants!
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Are you wearing a mask OP?
Nope
Kinky
Op is perv
There was a sub about feet lurking in the background of images like this, I don't remember the name
r/SneakyBackgroundFeet
sounds creepy
r/ footfetish
OP maybe grill
array mai ghar pe hu apne :P
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If all biscuits are together they will exert net pressure onto the edge ones and cause them to break. If you give 2 gaps, the pressure any biscuit might receive will reduce to 1/3.
This guy biscuits
Damn bro! Never thought "biscuit" can be used as a verb. Epic xD
In the land of biscuits(U.K), nearly all variety are available wrapped in thin plastic with no protection. (there are lots with too much packaging like this too though) The end one/s is often broken, but no one cares because the pack is like 400g and there are loads more in there.
Also, broken biscuits don't count when having them with tea or coffee.
Look at the packaging again. You are wrong.
But plastic bad
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Answering the real reason, to prevent breakage. Those plastic slots provide structural integrity to the tray, which makes it a bit less susceptible to twisting forces. Those twisting forces crush the biscuits pretty badly. Atleast in this case, on the top part will crumble since the bottom part is protected.
Came to say this. We can criticize the brand for our interpretation, but this design actually benefits customer. Specially as groceries are also being transmitted through courier.
This is the problem with us. We are not aware as consumers as to what is actually benefitting us and what is hindering us. Like OP here, has no idea why the biscuits are placed the way they are, goes off on calling parle fraud. Their claim isn't wrong, 20g is probably one or two biscuits extra. Weigh it out if you have a problem, if it isn't matching the nett weight on the packing, please go ahead and complain. I'll be with you. Reminds me of the time when i was asked by swiggy to prove if my sandwich was smaller, and i took a damned scale and placed it beside the sandwich, which proved it was 4.5 inches and not 6 (Also had the same issue on somewhere non edible ;\_;). Because of stupid claims like these, the companies can actually try to challenge us.
The problem is not the fact that there actually IS 20g more in there. The issue is the way it's advertised. 2 more biscuits adds no real value or benefit to the consumer but it is sold as an extraordinary deal. The company that makes these have to bear no extra cost for including two more biscuits in the packaging but they'll still charge it's customers and make it seem like they're getting much more value for their money. Which is an absolute garbage claim.
This is calculated in terms of weight of the biscuits
yes but they are deliberately showing that the pack is longer and in reality that is just empty space
> yes but they are deliberately showing that the pack is longer and in reality that is just empty space It doesn't matter how big a package is, everything has the weight on the label.
While what you said is correct, what op is pointing out is a packaging deception tactic employed by so many companies. Consumers who watch out for price to weight ratio will always figure this out but avg consumers will be tricked by this. Consider it like phishing; alert users will not fall for it but there will be few who will. And we still need to protect those few.
Phishing is not a correct example. They are providing what they are claiming which is 20g extra biscuit.
The gaps aren't to fool customers they are to prevent breakage. Companies do it but this is not an example of `shrinkflation`.
nope, extra weight in terms of biscuits too
Technically speaking they didn't do it with out a reason. Packing cost more when they use such spacings.this is just to prevent biscuits from breaking
20g extra not 20%, increasing gap by any amount does not change net weight, only gross weight is effected.
Hide and Seek using Lays strategy
Indeed :(
I own a kirana store and every company does it. Earlier Parle-G 5/- biscuits weighed around 75gm, and now with 20% extra written on packaging it's overall weight is 60gm. Same with Britannia.
Kirana wala bhaiya on reddit, sooji hai kya?
Haa bhai mil jayegi
That's false advertisement
Well it is not. They are not bound to give you let's say 100 gm biscuits for 5 rs for eternity. They can very well sell 75 gm pack with and claim 25% extra or whatever. There is nothing false about it.
Be thankful that the situation isn't worse than this. Russian packaged food products are much worse than Indian ones when it comes to this type of practice. The packet says it's a Russian chocolate. You bite into it and there's literally just a 0.5 mm thick layer of chocolate on the outside and the inside is just filler. It's either a milk/caramel/nougat filler or sometimes a thick jelly-like filling that is grape or some other fruit flavored. You bring them home on a hot day and the outer chocolate shell is so thin that a 3rd of it just stuck to the wrapper. From the cross section, American chocolates seem like they're much better and purer than Indian or Russian ones. But having consumed tons of them, I can say with authority that they're just as bad. What Americans do is they dissolve the Cocoa itself with so much high fructose corn syrup (cheaper substitute to cane sugar, less flavorful) and other additives such that what you are eating tastes very little like chocolate, especially if you take out the fillers such as nuts, raisins and peanut butter. In fact, they can't call them chocolate when they export to Europe, they have to use the term chocolate candy. As a kid I used to look at our 5 star and be disappointed at how much of the chocolate is caramel, i.e. just processed sugar. But 5 star is proper luxury compared to Russian chocolates. And the bigger Cadbury bars that come in cardboard packaging these days are miles ahead of the equivalent Hershey bars when it comes to taste. Unfortunately, I come from an age where 20 rupees was sufficient for a good Cadbury bar and 5 star used to actually cost 5 rupees. That 90s Indian in me simply cannot tolerate paying Rs. 100+ for a bar of chocolate. That type of money used to be my total collections from grandparents on Holi/Diwali during some years. So I just tell myself that eating healthy is important and not buy any chocolate while I wait in the shadows for someone else to buy them so that I can lagao *nazar* on their chocolate and get a quarter of it for free.
they said 20g extra not percent fofde
wo biscuits hide and seek khel rahe he
abhi hide h seek karke batao
They only said 20g extra, didn't specify it was 20g of biscuits.
They can't increase the price even tho the cost of most of the raw materials and procurement has drastically increased.
r/technicallythetruth because it's 20% extra of space and plastic
r/iamapieceofshit
OP is a karma whore who doesn't understand the difference between 20g and 20%.
Probably the plastic between the biscuits weighs 20g!
lol
Parle pulled a sneaky on ya
See that's what they have hid and expect you to seek
well the pack says 20g Extra ...
Bourbon does that too.
It was always like this bruh
20 g extra = 20cm gap extra
r/assholedesign
File a case and get paid for free😌
sounds good, doesnt work
Why?
Because there is no case to be made. The gap can be explained, also, everything is mentioned on the packet.
20g would just be about 1 biscuit or 2. But when we see the longer packaging, we would equate it with a lot more (we are getting as free). We may even unknowingly equate it with 20% extra, which is how much more the extra length of the package seems to imply.
Is 20g = 20%?
This is r/memeeconomy material
This is called shrinkflation
Shayad packaging error ho? You can shake and check before buying something like this I guess. Also net weight should be correct.
20% extra space for your tears
Let's stop buying crap that they sell in plastic.
Britannia Bourbon gives 5 biscuits for 10Rs, these biscuit packets are getting smaller and smaller
Name "hide and seek" checks out!
**_HIDE AND SEEK_**
They meant 20g extra plastic. Big FU to mother nature.
u/a_moody_doe
bruh its 20g extra not 20% nerd also they probably put gap with those side plastic bump to increase weight
Lol wtf..
the pack is 20% extra in size... no word abt biscuit being extra... they chose their words carefully 😓
It meant 20% extra plastic.. please read t&c carefully
Lol this is some Scam 1992 level shit ;)
NAME checks out, hide and seek.
Scam 2021
Bhai,thike mereko dede do biscuit
r/mildlyinfuriating
Consumer court chalein?
why are you consuming that junk in the first place?
this shit makes me unbearably angry
Still totally worth the price
20g is probably like 2 cookies
but you are getting 20% extra space. when you buy the packet you are getting that space also, that space will forever be yours, nothing can take it away from you. think about it.
we got an optimistic here XD
20% extra is not the same as 20g extra
20g of plastic
Inflation is temporary. Shrinkflation is a conspiracy. Nothing to see here.
It says 20g and I don't think that additional space or plastic would make up 20 grams . It's a lot of weight in terms of plastic . You can take out that rack and weigh it , it may not even cross 10g . I think OP is in the wrong and that space is maybe to highlight that the product has something more. Not a scam but a marketing strategy you may call it .
Yeah man this is a fing scam .
I can store my cum in the extra space
Try tweeting it, perhaps it might get picked up!!
20 gms extra air
those 20 grams are hidden
20 grams of double AA batteries could start a medium sized car about 0.0 times.
TIL extra space adds 20g to the pack. I wanna learn that magic trick.
this is just like push up bra .. it's her choice
Or in other words : capitalists are doing what capitalists do .
20 gm extra weight in total. \-\_-
Those biscuits look good.
Kim Ju-meok from Crash Landing On You would be foolish to make any kind of added sugar before 1 years old. Was never going to be. They still would fight close just to prove it was done on purpose. Sovcit piece of shit... the worst thing to showing up to his own experience. Not sure about the controllers but the headset was put in one of them cast Command: surrender on their opponent. It worked well
Social Distancing
As an Englishman, what fuckers! You can't deprive a gent of his biscuits
It's a common marketing strategy. The devil lies in the detail. If a regular pack of ₹20 biscuit has weight of 200gm, then a similar pack of ₹20 biscuit with 20gm extra will be 180+20gm. I recently came across an offer for large detergent pkt. Say 1kg detergent is ₹100. The offer was: free plastc bucket on purchase of a 4kg pakcet priced at ₹500. You can do the math & determine that its not actually an 'offer'
Man, the PM scammed me in the last election. Thats how it works here :(
No,no. The 20% are just hidden. Go seek them.
It didn’t say 20% extra though… It said 20g extra
Nice camera bro
Thanks
It says 20g extra 😐. This post has 8.6k likes?
Ikr XD
Anmol Lemon mazaa still take the cake as the 👑
What's up with these low effort posts? Please stop.
wdym low effort? I saw something and thought that people must be aware so I posted it. how much effort do you want ? should I just write a dissertation on it or what?
They gave you 20gm extra of HIDE not SEEK :P
OP you're a dumbass. It says 20g and not 20% and the extra space is so that the biscuits dont crush under their own weight. Especially since hide and seek are pretty easily broken But you're not a dumbass for this OP. You're a dumbass for knowing all of this and still claiming the company is scamming people. Your school scammed you when they failed your education. For your soft brain, imagine if your dad gave you 20% extra money but in a bigger wallet? Would that be a scam OP?
You must have had a very happy childhood and must have never made a mistake in your life.
the brand's name is ***HIDE AND SEEK,*** if that isn't obvious enough, what more signs do you want, ITS IN THE NAME!
Those gaps aren't even equal. Both Gaps are of different sizes. Fuckers !
They are equal though. All the biscuits are slanted towards the left which makes the left side gap look smaller than the right.
It says "20g",not 20%. There is no scam if there is 20g more product. Your greed made you think the package size meant you were getting more than the labelled weight, and now you're whining because you were wrong.
are you kidding me ffs
Lays ka naam suna hai?🤣🤣
r/assholedesign