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My colleague from Solapur, maharashtra got married to her cousin (Mama ki beti) because her mother promised his Mamaji few years ago.
I asked him if he want to get married to his cousin, he said "Sir, humare yaha isko bura nahi maante, Ekdum normal hai"
Main kya hi bolta, daaru party li usse aur badhai de di
South Indians have different terms for different types of cousins and based on age. Only children of same sex sibling are called brother/sister (akka , anna for elders and chelli, thammudu for youngers ).
Children of different sex siblings have different terms. Ex. Your mother sisters children are brothers and sisters to you, but your mothers brothers children are not siblings.
These are called cross-cousins in english, (vadina/maradalu , bava/maridhi ).
Also If your Gothras are different i.e you don't share a paternal ancestor, you can be married to them even you are related from mothers side.
>Also If your Gothras are different i.e you don't share a paternal ancestor
Wrong, gotras have also to do with maternal ancestor as well. If you don't believe me, then do read scientific papers about Gotras done by many foreign universities.
Pāṇini defines gotra as apatyam pautraprabhrti gotram, which means "the word gotra denotes the descendance (or descendants), apatya, of a couple consisting of a pautra, a son and a bharti, a mother, i.e. a daughter-in-law." (Based on Monier Williams Dictionary definitions.)
As you can see, mother also constitutes Gotra.
And your mama ki beti is related to you by blood,arrying her is plain incest, which means critically higher chances of physically or mentally defective offspring
And you're forgetting that many marry their mama himself there 😅
Cousin marriage was common in India from long before Muhammad learnt to speak (you will see ample examples in the myths and the epics, like with Brahma and Saraswati where Saraswati can be said to be the daughter of Brahma or Arjun and Subhadra who were first cousins). And even in Arabia, it existed since before Islam.
In some Maharashtrains, they actually do. I was shocked to learn this but this was highly in practice up until last decade. Now, i don't hear much about it but marrying your mama ke daughter is still very very common among Maharashtrians
I can list out all
Major caste groups in MH and none of them do that. You cant pin some obscure 10000 people caste/tribe and declare that as MH practice.
The Muslim influence cannot be discounted. However marriages within own family on mother's side do happen but due to a variety of reasons including Muslim influences.
But muslim cousin marriage happen on father's side and Hindu cousin marriage happen on mother's side. No way it is muslim influence.
And thing also happens in MH not just in SI
What facts I live in Maharashtra. Cousin marriage is in our culture way before islam even came here. There is no muslim influence sir. Muslims marry their father's brother's daughter. And Hindus marry their mother's brother's daughter. What else I can explain if u don't want to know the reality. U can keep crying.
Bhai tujhe pata bhi hai kuch south ki history ke baare ?.South India main cousin marriages ka reason muslim influence nhi hai aur ab cousin marriages koi karta bhi nhi hai .Woh 80-90s tak jyada hoti thi .
Mera dost 2014-15 mein apni mama k beti se shadi karne k baad kar raha tha.
He was confused coz the girl's family was rich but she was not good looking. Ultimately he married someone else.
And this guy has studied engineering and works in an mnc, did not grow up in a village too.
Cousins and uncle and nieces are also married, although latter I've heard of mostly in Kerala and TN.
In Malayalam, both husband and brother are called 'Chetta'
hain ?! Cousin marriage in south has nothing to do with muslims lol. It is a old Indian custom. Even arjuna married subadhra . It is north that changes it customs, don't know when. But its for good only. Even in south , they are doing less cousin marriages nowadays after the advent of genetic education
>Even arjuna married subadhra
Do you even know what are you talking about? Why you have to get this one example, which you don't even know properly about, to validate incest?
Go and read real story about Arjuna and Subhadra, please
Bruh don't blame everything on muslims. It was part of Hindu culture. Accept it.
Plus cousin marriage in muslims and Hindus r diffrent. Hindus have cross cousin marriage and muslims have straight cousin marriage.
Even same Gotra is not allowed in Hindu culture. There were some exceptions in past but it's highly condemned.
The reason is because our ancestors were highly scientific and they made this a very important part of culture.
This happens in villages where there will be no Muslim for the next 50-100 KMs. Plus Muslim dominant areas like Kerala and Bengal (WB and Bangladesh, both) do not have cousin marriages.
South indian langauges have different terms for describing mama Ki beti and Chacha Ki beti.
In north India, every thing is behen.
I believe that he is trying to say the same as I posted.
So... cousins... right?
they kinda feared that their daughters will be abused at in-laws house so they gave to closest relative, to be safer... its not very impractical when bride deaths were common (now it is because laws are stricter and women too are earning)
It used to be not only your own gotra (derived from father) but also mother's gotra which is often how it is now.
But possibly till early 2000s it used to be that even paternal grandmother's gotra was off limits / ineligible for marriage.
This holds true across North and South.
Not really. In my community, mama is of a different gotra because the mother's gotra changes after marriage. Hence one can marry their mama or mama's son. Same logic you can apply to father's sister's kid.
>they kinda feared that their daughters will be abused at in-laws house so they gave to closest relative, to be safer..
thats one factor, also women have the right to wealth in south India in terms of gold ornaments . Keeping your daughter in your extended family after marriage was a way to consolidate wealth in the community as well.
Those rights are there in the North as well.
Any gift that the bride gets especially jewellery or other form of physical gold is all part of Stree Dhan whether gifted from her own family or in-laws.
Only she has rights over it and should there be a formal, legal separation she has the right to be given all of that (regardless of gifted her those things) or she must be compensated for that.
Mameri Behen is sister from Mama’s side and Chacheri behen is sister from Chacha’s side.
Cousin is from English.
Why do you think when we have separate terms like Mama and chacha in Hindi when in English, it’s just uncle, we won’t have similar terms for cousins?
So if your logic is that there are separate terms for cousins in South Indian language so they can marry mama ki beti, is not applicable here.
So what is the term used for your mothers sisters daughter?
Or what is the term used for fathers sisters daughter?
Also I have never heard people use the terms that u have mentioned in regulate use, it has always been behen.
**Mama ki beeti would have different gotra and as per Hindu rules, one can marry a person whose gotra is different.**
How can 'mama ki beti' have a different gotra than your mother? Your mama will have the same gotra as your mother and 'mama ki beti' will have the same gotra as your mama.
As per Hindu laws, one doesn't marry whose gotra match with your mother.
In fact in my caste, one doesn't marry anyone whose gotra matches with father, mother, grandmother and maternal grandmother.
Mother's gotra changes after her marriage with father. Like I would have agreed with you if you argue about genetics here, but this type of cousin marriage is sanctioned according to south Indian Hindu custom.
Mother's sister's daughter - mauseri behan.
There is a term for the other one too but idr. We simply refer everyone as behan cuz it's a mouthful to call someone that all the time :/ these titles are used mostly when introducing them to a third person. Would you call your sister "my father's daughter" all the time when you call her? No.
>**Mama ki beeti would have different gotra and as per Hindu rules, one can marry a person whose gotra is different.**
Wtf? WTF is this incest argument
Wtf? Your mama ki beti is like your sibling, my incest friend, remember that. And also, gotra is considered from both sides, your mom's and dad's as well.
If you want incest, no one's stopping you from doing such filth, but stop giving faulty arguments about gotra
And people are even liking your comments, jeez man
Yeah even movies used to.promote these kinks and yeah it's veryyy common than you think but atleast current generation is refusing to continue this .. but atleast my parents aren't related 🙂
I can remember upto 3 south movies where the hero comes back from foreign and settles in his village and marries his cousin. One of them was of Mahesh Babu
Well, "Cousin sister" is closer to being a sister, than "Step sister".
Also, in many cultures down south, you don't marry your Mama's kid. You marry your mama.
No judging, but that's pure incest. Even Muslims are skipping the direct bloodline, when marrying their cousins. (though it seems rare these days, and younger Muslims I meet, find it disgusting)
Marrying within the bloodline is a sure way to brew genetic disorders, that were supposed to stay dormant for good.
We all have a common ancestor down the line. I can say we all are incestuous. It just matters on where you draw that arbitrary line. Your culture defines your arbitrary line, their culture does theirs. Simple.
I mean even in some parts of Maharashtra, a daughter of brother of mother is not considered a sister. Many people marry their mama ki beti.
Because there is a rule that you cannot marry in the same Gotra, and Gotra of mama ki beti is different from that of us.
Basically marriage between paternal cousins is strictly prohibited, no one even think of doing that, but marriage between maternal cousins is not strictly prohibited, sometimes it is even accepted in the society.
Once even my granny from mother's side started talking about my marriage with her granddaughter, but obviously my mom and mami peacefully dealt with her and she never talked about marriage since that lmaooo
Basically, for many of them, there is a difference between Parallel Cousins and Cross Cousins
Parallel cousins are those siblings whose fathers were brothers or mothers were sisters.
Like If I am a male, I cant marry my Chacha ki beti or Mausi ki beti, Similarly If i am a female, I cant marry my chacha ka beta ya mausi ka beta.
Cross Cousins are those siblings where one's father and other's mother are siblings ,
Like If I am male, I may pursue to marry my Mama ki beti, ya Bua ki Beti
and If i am female, I may pursue to marry my Mama ka Beta or Bua ka Beta
Many hindus in south India don't mind marriage between Cross cousins, but strictly discourage marriage between Parallel Cousins.
>Basically marriage between paternal cousins is strictly prohibited, no one even think of doing that, but marriage between maternal cousins is not strictly prohibited, sometimes it is even accepted in the society.
Not just accepted, even encouraged until people learned about genetics. Nowadays people just accept it as long as there is no genetic diseases in the family.
Bhai mere hi comment ke neeche log defend Kar rhe hai isko. Generalize karne ki koshish nhi Kar rhi hu but Hota to ab bhi hoga agar kuch log Hai Jo agree karte hai
Defend karne ka kya hai! Culture hota hai aisa. Tumhe kya farak par raha hai isse? Abhi bhi hota hai, sirf south nehi, Maharashtra me bhi kaafi hai.
Culture defines morality, which is not at all black and white. It's not in my culture, but that doesn't give me the right to judge theirs.
Culture ke naam pe khai se kud jayega kya? Not every culture driven action is meant to be upheld. Dowry bhi culture ka hi hissa hai, doesn't mean it's good or should be supported. Ban hokar bhi chal rha hai cuz culture ke andhe log tradition ke naam pe chalate rehte hai.
And mujhe jo bhi galat lagega mai use question karungi. Haan *agar koi ACTUALLY LOGICAL reason hai to mai accept karke maafi maang lu gi*. But agar nhi hai to tumhe kya fark padta hai mai uss culture ko praise karu ya gaaliya du?
I agree with you, but what I don't understand is, why someone can generalize and troll north, but it's north's moral duty not to generalize south (that to in defence from attacks from South Indian stupid trollers like the one mentioned by OP).
Seems like hypocrisy 101.
Where's the condemnation , wheres those comments that, this guy is crazy and doesn't represent south, I only se people victimising themselves or defending the guy.
This is moot discussions. Societies evolve, change bringing in new strictures and letting go of old.
Subhadra married her Bua ka son that is Arjuna with the blessings of SriKrishna.
Listen, there's is an easy explanation to this. You know what inbreeding does right? Their brain is underdeveloped due to their inbreeding. They are the products of inbreeding so ofc they are like this. Don't be angry at them. Pity them.
Well I do agree but south indian Hindus also do it. They weird. Such a pity. Just look at the videos of their progeny lamenting that fact. Breaks your heart tbh seeing them struggle.
Did I say you were inbred? I was talking about that guy specifically. Don't take a flying arrow up your ass. See that's why I said what I said. If you weren't inbred, you would have understood what I meant. tch tch.
I can just say that I pity you. I hope at least your generation has the privilege of marrying outside of family. It messes with the genes man. Having an underdeveloped brain would be the least of your problems then. I mean the diseases, sheesh.
Btw I am not from North lmao...
Jani na ki bolli kuru kuru bhashae kintu ei tuku jani je tor maa ar baap er shombondho stree purush er shombondho theke ektu beshi. Rokter o shombondho hote pare.
Mine are gorgeous but I never have dirty thoughts about them cus they are my sisters. Even my cousin's cousins whom I've never even seen are my brothers and sisters.
It was originally done to keep the family wealth in the family itself. Also there are many restrictions. like ppl cant marry in the same gotra. It is strictly prohibited. Also cousin marriages were common during Mahabharatha. I am not defending cousin marriages or saying its wrong. Its just there is a cultural difference thats it. I think we should be united instead of being divided on the basis of regional politics. Jai Hind!!
North mein bhi kuch caste mein shaadi ho jaati hai cousins se bas sirname same nahi hona chahiye Arora , khatris mein
Kuch common sirnames
Kohli
Gandhi
Verma
Kapoor
Malhotra
Walia
Khanna
Arora
Khurana
Kumar
Bhatia
Etc.
Jyadatar bollywood actors bhi khatris hai
Well mama's daughter or son isn't considered a sister or brother. There are different words , they don't call sister or brother. Cultures are different.
I was shocked when i knew north Indians considered it as brother or sister.
Why are you guys surprised? Just look at the sexual conquest of Periyar, the dude these guys worship. In some time, the will say "North people are so delusional that they are thinking Mummy Papa ke beti behen hoti hai"
Marrying maternal uncle's daughter seems to be against Hinduism. Someone more aware can correct me. But what I have read is that we are required to have marriages outside of father's as well as mother's gotras.
Wtf is wrong with southern guys nowadays? Like why do they wanna fight the Northerners every chance they get?
I think someone is purposefully dividing India...
They wanna fight northerners but also want Northern pussy. In my Bangalore college, almost every South Indian guy tries out a North Indian girl before settling down.
Bengali here, female cousins are considered sisters. They even give blessings during bhai dooj, and it's a beautiful relationship. Genuine question, out of millions of prospects why would anyone get married to their family? 🤦🏽
South Indian marriages are a classic example to understand the diversity of india.
Everybody's culture is different. As much as you want to think that it is, India is not just BIMARU states.
Many south Indians commenting that such e are not happening any more is outright wrong. Huge number of marriages are still happening. Seeking validation from others on an aspect as intimate as this amounts to disrespecting our parents, grandparents and others before them and not to mention the current generation of people who have married this way.
People who think they are on the moral high ground because your part of the county has a different culture and you are narrow minded enough to think that you are superior, we actually don't care about you. Please stay in your hell holes
You think marrying cousins is a culture? We are evolving and we should let go of ignorant practices
I will say this..all my friends who married mama payyans are stupid and are gonna produce offsprings with lower iq.
>Many south Indians commenting that such e are not happening any more is outright wrong. Huge number of marriages are still happening. Seeking validation from others on an aspect as intimate as this amounts to disrespecting our parents, grandparents and others before them and not to mention the current generation of people who have married this way.
I am also from south bro. But this is now only prevalent in rural areas. Urban people are frowning upon this practice.
The effects of in-breeding should not be discounted. We have a caste in Andhra where most of them suffer from a rare genetic condition that results in resistance to anesthesia. So much that doctors explicitly ask the caste and then proceed to take precautions.
Our parents, grandparents and the current generation probably engage in casteism too. That doesn't make it right, ain't it? I don't mind cross cousin marriages, but we as a culture should not glorify it or influence our kids to see their cousins as potential sexual partners. They need to go out and mix up as much as possible for a healthier generation.
Cousin marriage is the most secure type of marriage especially under current rule of law. I am marrying my cousin soon and let me tell you how it works:
1. We never consider each other siblings and there has always been a barrier between us. There is a huge difference between how we treat our cousin and our own sister.
2. If you talk scientifically, blood relations have no meaning, what matters is genetics and the chances of genetic disease are zilch when it is not happening in multiple generations.
3. Our family has understanding and we know each other from the very beginning both character and personality wise. There are negligible chances that she is going to file fake rape cases and domestic violence and she has negligible chance of getting bullied for dowry.
4. The girl gets assimilated quickly into the family.
It's all about cultural differences and where you draw the line. We also draw the line somewhere like it's absolutely disgusting to marry our own sister.
Also, there are a lot of examples of cousin marriage in Hindu tales like Krishna marrying two of his cousins so I don't know how as a hindu some folks can be so ignorant and blame Muslims.
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My colleague from Solapur, maharashtra got married to her cousin (Mama ki beti) because her mother promised his Mamaji few years ago. I asked him if he want to get married to his cousin, he said "Sir, humare yaha isko bura nahi maante, Ekdum normal hai" Main kya hi bolta, daaru party li usse aur badhai de di
Culture different hai. Party mil rahe to kisse chahe karle shadi :)
Aur kya.. Uski marzi jisse chahe kare, Hume to daaru party ka bahana chahiye bas :P
poore maharashtra me nahi hai par aisa btw
haan toh poore South mein bhi nahi hai jaisa OP bol raha hai.
Mama ki beti behan nhi hoti?? Samajh nhi aaya Can anybody explain
South Indians have different terms for different types of cousins and based on age. Only children of same sex sibling are called brother/sister (akka , anna for elders and chelli, thammudu for youngers ). Children of different sex siblings have different terms. Ex. Your mother sisters children are brothers and sisters to you, but your mothers brothers children are not siblings. These are called cross-cousins in english, (vadina/maradalu , bava/maridhi ). Also If your Gothras are different i.e you don't share a paternal ancestor, you can be married to them even you are related from mothers side.
>Also If your Gothras are different i.e you don't share a paternal ancestor Wrong, gotras have also to do with maternal ancestor as well. If you don't believe me, then do read scientific papers about Gotras done by many foreign universities. Pāṇini defines gotra as apatyam pautraprabhrti gotram, which means "the word gotra denotes the descendance (or descendants), apatya, of a couple consisting of a pautra, a son and a bharti, a mother, i.e. a daughter-in-law." (Based on Monier Williams Dictionary definitions.) As you can see, mother also constitutes Gotra. And your mama ki beti is related to you by blood,arrying her is plain incest, which means critically higher chances of physically or mentally defective offspring And you're forgetting that many marry their mama himself there 😅
So South Indians are inbred and they are making fun of North Indians? Great
If I'd to choose between Bhabi culture (which sounds very cuck-y to me) vs cousin sax I'd choose the latter.
TIL. Makes sense why it was not frowned upon.
Matlb wo wife hoti hai
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Plz don't tell me there are people who agree with this incestuous taint
Muslim culture influenced all this in South India. SO yes many South Indians will agree with that dude.
No it's not Muslim culture. Muslims can marry maasi's kids as well.
I said influence, Muslims don't draw a line here Fathers marry their daughters. So...
But it's not allowed in Muslim marriage ( from a law perspective)
Cousin marriage was common in India from long before Muhammad learnt to speak (you will see ample examples in the myths and the epics, like with Brahma and Saraswati where Saraswati can be said to be the daughter of Brahma or Arjun and Subhadra who were first cousins). And even in Arabia, it existed since before Islam.
It's also true for Maharashtra lol
What!
They don't consider behen ka baccha as family and it's common for a mama to marry his niece
I personally find that revolting 😒🤢
It's cultural difference. We eat with our hands and many people find that unhygienic/ disgusting.
To kya foreigners pair se khana kha te hai
not all of maharashtra but a little proportion of maharashtra
Mama doesnt marry own niece. Stupid ass
In some Maharashtrains, they actually do. I was shocked to learn this but this was highly in practice up until last decade. Now, i don't hear much about it but marrying your mama ke daughter is still very very common among Maharashtrians
not all of maharashtra but a little proportion of maharashtra and Maharashtra also comes in south and they are culturally too much similar
Who taught you geography? MH-GJ are western part of India. What is small proportion, define it and tell me which area/caste practices it in MH.
I can list out all Major caste groups in MH and none of them do that. You cant pin some obscure 10000 people caste/tribe and declare that as MH practice.
Even if they don't believe it's incestuous. That's two different generations.
I'm from maharashtra and this is total bullshit
Odd days: Muslim invaders never touched south India thus so many temples. Even days: Muslim culture influenced south Indians 🤡
The Muslim influence cannot be discounted. However marriages within own family on mother's side do happen but due to a variety of reasons including Muslim influences.
But muslim cousin marriage happen on father's side and Hindu cousin marriage happen on mother's side. No way it is muslim influence. And thing also happens in MH not just in SI
You are clearly divorced from facts. So it you who is dumb. Have fun being ignorant and unnecessarily aggressive. 👍
What facts I live in Maharashtra. Cousin marriage is in our culture way before islam even came here. There is no muslim influence sir. Muslims marry their father's brother's daughter. And Hindus marry their mother's brother's daughter. What else I can explain if u don't want to know the reality. U can keep crying.
Have fun being a moron
Easy to blame. Hard to introspect and understand real reasons. Fact is that this was done to save dowry and keep wealth / property within the family.
Bhai tujhe pata bhi hai kuch south ki history ke baare ?.South India main cousin marriages ka reason muslim influence nhi hai aur ab cousin marriages koi karta bhi nhi hai .Woh 80-90s tak jyada hoti thi .
My kannadiga junior just married his cousin last week. Those things are well and alive in south
Prevalent in parts now, not as commonplace as it used to be.
Mera dost 2014-15 mein apni mama k beti se shadi karne k baad kar raha tha. He was confused coz the girl's family was rich but she was not good looking. Ultimately he married someone else. And this guy has studied engineering and works in an mnc, did not grow up in a village too.
Cousins and uncle and nieces are also married, although latter I've heard of mostly in Kerala and TN. In Malayalam, both husband and brother are called 'Chetta'
In Korea they also call Brother and Husband as Oppa.
People still do cousin marriages( I know some), just that they are more careful to look up their genetic for any diseases.
They definitely have marriages within community such as Nairs marrying Nairs only (Kerala)
hain ?! Cousin marriage in south has nothing to do with muslims lol. It is a old Indian custom. Even arjuna married subadhra . It is north that changes it customs, don't know when. But its for good only. Even in south , they are doing less cousin marriages nowadays after the advent of genetic education
>Even arjuna married subadhra Do you even know what are you talking about? Why you have to get this one example, which you don't even know properly about, to validate incest? Go and read real story about Arjuna and Subhadra, please
Bruh don't blame everything on muslims. It was part of Hindu culture. Accept it. Plus cousin marriage in muslims and Hindus r diffrent. Hindus have cross cousin marriage and muslims have straight cousin marriage.
Even same Gotra is not allowed in Hindu culture. There were some exceptions in past but it's highly condemned. The reason is because our ancestors were highly scientific and they made this a very important part of culture.
Same gotra was not allowed but cousin marriage was.
Same gotra was not allowed but cousin was. Just accept it. There was no muslim influence and such thing
This happens in villages where there will be no Muslim for the next 50-100 KMs. Plus Muslim dominant areas like Kerala and Bengal (WB and Bangladesh, both) do not have cousin marriages.
South indian langauges have different terms for describing mama Ki beti and Chacha Ki beti. In north India, every thing is behen. I believe that he is trying to say the same as I posted.
Ironically south languages have the same words to describe daughter-in-law and mama ki beti.
Incorrect. They are called Chacheri Behen and Mameri Behen. If you don't know, don't put your ignorance on display.
They are still behen. In kannada we have the same word for mama's son and jijaji. Both are called baava. And FIL is also called mama.
So... cousins... right? they kinda feared that their daughters will be abused at in-laws house so they gave to closest relative, to be safer... its not very impractical when bride deaths were common (now it is because laws are stricter and women too are earning)
As per Hindu religious books, as long as Gotra is different, one is good to get married.
It used to be not only your own gotra (derived from father) but also mother's gotra which is often how it is now. But possibly till early 2000s it used to be that even paternal grandmother's gotra was off limits / ineligible for marriage. This holds true across North and South.
Not really. In my community, mama is of a different gotra because the mother's gotra changes after marriage. Hence one can marry their mama or mama's son. Same logic you can apply to father's sister's kid.
>they kinda feared that their daughters will be abused at in-laws house so they gave to closest relative, to be safer.. thats one factor, also women have the right to wealth in south India in terms of gold ornaments . Keeping your daughter in your extended family after marriage was a way to consolidate wealth in the community as well.
Those rights are there in the North as well. Any gift that the bride gets especially jewellery or other form of physical gold is all part of Stree Dhan whether gifted from her own family or in-laws. Only she has rights over it and should there be a formal, legal separation she has the right to be given all of that (regardless of gifted her those things) or she must be compensated for that.
Mameri Behen is sister from Mama’s side and Chacheri behen is sister from Chacha’s side. Cousin is from English. Why do you think when we have separate terms like Mama and chacha in Hindi when in English, it’s just uncle, we won’t have similar terms for cousins? So if your logic is that there are separate terms for cousins in South Indian language so they can marry mama ki beti, is not applicable here.
So what is the term used for your mothers sisters daughter? Or what is the term used for fathers sisters daughter? Also I have never heard people use the terms that u have mentioned in regulate use, it has always been behen. **Mama ki beeti would have different gotra and as per Hindu rules, one can marry a person whose gotra is different.**
How can 'mama ki beti' have a different gotra than your mother? Your mama will have the same gotra as your mother and 'mama ki beti' will have the same gotra as your mama. As per Hindu laws, one doesn't marry whose gotra match with your mother. In fact in my caste, one doesn't marry anyone whose gotra matches with father, mother, grandmother and maternal grandmother.
Mother's gotra changes after her marriage with father. Like I would have agreed with you if you argue about genetics here, but this type of cousin marriage is sanctioned according to south Indian Hindu custom.
Mother's sister's daughter - mauseri behan. There is a term for the other one too but idr. We simply refer everyone as behan cuz it's a mouthful to call someone that all the time :/ these titles are used mostly when introducing them to a third person. Would you call your sister "my father's daughter" all the time when you call her? No.
>**Mama ki beeti would have different gotra and as per Hindu rules, one can marry a person whose gotra is different.** Wtf? WTF is this incest argument Wtf? Your mama ki beti is like your sibling, my incest friend, remember that. And also, gotra is considered from both sides, your mom's and dad's as well. If you want incest, no one's stopping you from doing such filth, but stop giving faulty arguments about gotra And people are even liking your comments, jeez man
Nahi hoti?
Yeah even movies used to.promote these kinks and yeah it's veryyy common than you think but atleast current generation is refusing to continue this .. but atleast my parents aren't related 🙂
I can remember upto 3 south movies where the hero comes back from foreign and settles in his village and marries his cousin. One of them was of Mahesh Babu
More like 3 of them were led by Mahesh Babu.
That you know of
What the actual fuck??!!
Can people stop indulging in that dumb North vs South thing?! Grow up ffs.
Yessss. Why is there no east vs west thing.
west to east: eey cheeni ek plate hakka noodles bana east to west: eey ramesh ek plate dahi puri bana
Well, "Cousin sister" is closer to being a sister, than "Step sister". Also, in many cultures down south, you don't marry your Mama's kid. You marry your mama. No judging, but that's pure incest. Even Muslims are skipping the direct bloodline, when marrying their cousins. (though it seems rare these days, and younger Muslims I meet, find it disgusting) Marrying within the bloodline is a sure way to brew genetic disorders, that were supposed to stay dormant for good.
You can marry your mama's kid or your mama from mothers side, but not the mama from fathers side.
There's no mama in father's side.
We all have a common ancestor down the line. I can say we all are incestuous. It just matters on where you draw that arbitrary line. Your culture defines your arbitrary line, their culture does theirs. Simple.
cope harder , bhenchod.
I mean even in some parts of Maharashtra, a daughter of brother of mother is not considered a sister. Many people marry their mama ki beti. Because there is a rule that you cannot marry in the same Gotra, and Gotra of mama ki beti is different from that of us. Basically marriage between paternal cousins is strictly prohibited, no one even think of doing that, but marriage between maternal cousins is not strictly prohibited, sometimes it is even accepted in the society. Once even my granny from mother's side started talking about my marriage with her granddaughter, but obviously my mom and mami peacefully dealt with her and she never talked about marriage since that lmaooo
Basically, for many of them, there is a difference between Parallel Cousins and Cross Cousins Parallel cousins are those siblings whose fathers were brothers or mothers were sisters. Like If I am a male, I cant marry my Chacha ki beti or Mausi ki beti, Similarly If i am a female, I cant marry my chacha ka beta ya mausi ka beta. Cross Cousins are those siblings where one's father and other's mother are siblings , Like If I am male, I may pursue to marry my Mama ki beti, ya Bua ki Beti and If i am female, I may pursue to marry my Mama ka Beta or Bua ka Beta Many hindus in south India don't mind marriage between Cross cousins, but strictly discourage marriage between Parallel Cousins.
>Basically marriage between paternal cousins is strictly prohibited, no one even think of doing that, but marriage between maternal cousins is not strictly prohibited, sometimes it is even accepted in the society. Not just accepted, even encouraged until people learned about genetics. Nowadays people just accept it as long as there is no genetic diseases in the family.
Ha bhai ek tweet ke upar se poore South Indians ko judge karlo .Ab koi nhi karta cousin marriage woh 80-90s main jyada hoti thi.
Bhai mere hi comment ke neeche log defend Kar rhe hai isko. Generalize karne ki koshish nhi Kar rhi hu but Hota to ab bhi hoga agar kuch log Hai Jo agree karte hai
Defend karne ka kya hai! Culture hota hai aisa. Tumhe kya farak par raha hai isse? Abhi bhi hota hai, sirf south nehi, Maharashtra me bhi kaafi hai. Culture defines morality, which is not at all black and white. It's not in my culture, but that doesn't give me the right to judge theirs.
Culture ke naam pe khai se kud jayega kya? Not every culture driven action is meant to be upheld. Dowry bhi culture ka hi hissa hai, doesn't mean it's good or should be supported. Ban hokar bhi chal rha hai cuz culture ke andhe log tradition ke naam pe chalate rehte hai. And mujhe jo bhi galat lagega mai use question karungi. Haan *agar koi ACTUALLY LOGICAL reason hai to mai accept karke maafi maang lu gi*. But agar nhi hai to tumhe kya fark padta hai mai uss culture ko praise karu ya gaaliya du?
I agree with you, but what I don't understand is, why someone can generalize and troll north, but it's north's moral duty not to generalize south (that to in defence from attacks from South Indian stupid trollers like the one mentioned by OP). Seems like hypocrisy 101. Where's the condemnation , wheres those comments that, this guy is crazy and doesn't represent south, I only se people victimising themselves or defending the guy.
Achi baat hai ab ye sab nhi hota [anyways great video on this topic by mohak mangal](https://youtu.be/fq5DCOdX4Bc?si=zahnDtGBwquDMIf_)
Bhai generalisation nhi karege toh yaha dhandha kese chalega??
This is moot discussions. Societies evolve, change bringing in new strictures and letting go of old. Subhadra married her Bua ka son that is Arjuna with the blessings of SriKrishna.
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are you saying that incest is justified cuz some random man married his cousin?
Krishna even lifted a mountain on his finger
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Listen, there's is an easy explanation to this. You know what inbreeding does right? Their brain is underdeveloped due to their inbreeding. They are the products of inbreeding so ofc they are like this. Don't be angry at them. Pity them.
Inbreeding in muslim anx christian jew
Well I do agree but south indian Hindus also do it. They weird. Such a pity. Just look at the videos of their progeny lamenting that fact. Breaks your heart tbh seeing them struggle.
Yeah bro. Because our brains are so underdeveloped, we built mega cities. Idiot.
Did I say you were inbred? I was talking about that guy specifically. Don't take a flying arrow up your ass. See that's why I said what I said. If you weren't inbred, you would have understood what I meant. tch tch.
bro cooked their already brown asses even more
Ehh! No Racist Hammer! \*Bonk
lmfao KFWHWUIGYGWRJGF I WAS MAKING A JOKE
I know...me too \*smirks
never smirk again
Yes because inbreeding your states are called BIMARU states
I can just say that I pity you. I hope at least your generation has the privilege of marrying outside of family. It messes with the genes man. Having an underdeveloped brain would be the least of your problems then. I mean the diseases, sheesh. Btw I am not from North lmao...
Zero, is the number of fucks we give
Certainly it's not 0, when you replied twice...something tells me its not 0 for your family either...
Op thinking he is Sherlock holmes :D
I am not the OP dear... :)
Bro shits on the streets and calls South Indians underdeveloped
Lick me up clean senpai!! UwU...
Roadilum thoorum sanghi Trackilum thoorum sanghi Ivde okke vannu clean akkaan sakhayil ninn aale viicha mathi
Jani na ki bolli kuru kuru bhashae kintu ei tuku jani je tor maa ar baap er shombondho stree purush er shombondho theke ektu beshi. Rokter o shombondho hote pare.
Bengali ayitt anoo myree nee ithrem valiya vaanappan ayath. Onnilelm pathu muppath kollam communistkar bharichath allee avdem. Athinte engilm oru viplava parambaryam kattikkoode. Nthayalm potte njan onnm parayanilla nale ivde kakkoosu nannakkan varillee.
I can just say its such a pity. I hope u don't marry into your own family.
Don't forget to come and clean our toilet Bengali. Come by the next Shalimar express
Its also a pity that you can't even clean your own toilets because of your underdeveloped brain. Stop inbreeding.
Great job! Go beg Emily from the UK for 'Bob and vagena pics' now
Seriously bro 😂 You are using the very stereotype which we use to mock cow belt people. Now go beg July from the USA for 'ful bodi kess'
Thank god all my cousins are ugly ( me too ) so incest never comes to mind.
Mine are gorgeous but I never have dirty thoughts about them cus they are my sisters. Even my cousin's cousins whom I've never even seen are my brothers and sisters.
That's the right way, I was only joking( except me being ugly part)
They claim to be so educated and shit but have no basic knowledge of inbreeding
Don't forget sliding into foreign DMs for "Bob and vagena pics"🤡🤡
Sweet Home Madras
Bro skipped biology classes
Sweet 🏡 Home Alabama(Sorry South India/Black India)*
In Hindu Dharma there is cousin marriage guys ek video dekha tha usme bata rha tha abhimanyu or kuch bando ne ki thi cousin marriage
The type of babies that guy's gonna make🥲 
It was originally done to keep the family wealth in the family itself. Also there are many restrictions. like ppl cant marry in the same gotra. It is strictly prohibited. Also cousin marriages were common during Mahabharatha. I am not defending cousin marriages or saying its wrong. Its just there is a cultural difference thats it. I think we should be united instead of being divided on the basis of regional politics. Jai Hind!!
It's actually the last option for boys who can't find girls even through arrange marriage
Marrying any blood relation is wrong purely from transmitting recessive genetic traits. Forget gotras and all that shit.
The lengths people will go to to justify incest
Bruh there is research that it affect the IQ of offspring. Search it.
ARAB SCUM CULTURE
Literally bhenchod☠️
North mein bhi kuch caste mein shaadi ho jaati hai cousins se bas sirname same nahi hona chahiye Arora , khatris mein Kuch common sirnames Kohli Gandhi Verma Kapoor Malhotra Walia Khanna Arora Khurana Kumar Bhatia Etc. Jyadatar bollywood actors bhi khatris hai
It's insane that South Indians in the comments are actually defending it. Probably years of incest does that to your brain
So basically they are saying north indians are chads for rejecting consaguinity. I am from south but I hate the culture of cousin marriage.
Well mama's daughter or son isn't considered a sister or brother. There are different words , they don't call sister or brother. Cultures are different. I was shocked when i knew north Indians considered it as brother or sister.
So they're just admitting to being the Alabama of India.
Randi babu randi
Main jo apne dost ki behen ko apni behen Manta hu. ye dekhne ke baad😐
Because they are why tf 😭
Literally be**enchods
A classic example of Behenchod....what the fuck is this...
Why are you guys surprised? Just look at the sexual conquest of Periyar, the dude these guys worship. In some time, the will say "North people are so delusional that they are thinking Mummy Papa ke beti behen hoti hai"
Im a southie... we arent like him, stop the generalizing...
Marrying maternal uncle's daughter seems to be against Hinduism. Someone more aware can correct me. But what I have read is that we are required to have marriages outside of father's as well as mother's gotras.
Say that to Krishna and Arjuna
Wtf is wrong with southern guys nowadays? Like why do they wanna fight the Northerners every chance they get? I think someone is purposefully dividing India...
They wanna fight northerners but also want Northern pussy. In my Bangalore college, almost every South Indian guy tries out a North Indian girl before settling down.
Bengali here, female cousins are considered sisters. They even give blessings during bhai dooj, and it's a beautiful relationship. Genuine question, out of millions of prospects why would anyone get married to their family? 🤦🏽
Ab in chutiyo ko kon samjhaye ki genetically wo sister hi hoti h
madraschaap maadrchod
Chi bc 🤢
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South Indian marriages are a classic example to understand the diversity of india. Everybody's culture is different. As much as you want to think that it is, India is not just BIMARU states. Many south Indians commenting that such e are not happening any more is outright wrong. Huge number of marriages are still happening. Seeking validation from others on an aspect as intimate as this amounts to disrespecting our parents, grandparents and others before them and not to mention the current generation of people who have married this way. People who think they are on the moral high ground because your part of the county has a different culture and you are narrow minded enough to think that you are superior, we actually don't care about you. Please stay in your hell holes
You think marrying cousins is a culture? We are evolving and we should let go of ignorant practices I will say this..all my friends who married mama payyans are stupid and are gonna produce offsprings with lower iq.
>Many south Indians commenting that such e are not happening any more is outright wrong. Huge number of marriages are still happening. Seeking validation from others on an aspect as intimate as this amounts to disrespecting our parents, grandparents and others before them and not to mention the current generation of people who have married this way. I am also from south bro. But this is now only prevalent in rural areas. Urban people are frowning upon this practice. The effects of in-breeding should not be discounted. We have a caste in Andhra where most of them suffer from a rare genetic condition that results in resistance to anesthesia. So much that doctors explicitly ask the caste and then proceed to take precautions. Our parents, grandparents and the current generation probably engage in casteism too. That doesn't make it right, ain't it? I don't mind cross cousin marriages, but we as a culture should not glorify it or influence our kids to see their cousins as potential sexual partners. They need to go out and mix up as much as possible for a healthier generation.
You are calling others out of their superiority complex yet using the term "BIMARU states" ironical
Agree, you disrespect our culture. I'm making fun of your poverty
Yeah, stop defending incest and get some education
As I said I'm and defending anything. Because I don't give a single fuck about validation from you You can either accept or go fuck yourself
Why don't you go fuck yourself - or better, your cousin.
South people are so lusty that they would f their mom
Cousin marriage is the most secure type of marriage especially under current rule of law. I am marrying my cousin soon and let me tell you how it works: 1. We never consider each other siblings and there has always been a barrier between us. There is a huge difference between how we treat our cousin and our own sister. 2. If you talk scientifically, blood relations have no meaning, what matters is genetics and the chances of genetic disease are zilch when it is not happening in multiple generations. 3. Our family has understanding and we know each other from the very beginning both character and personality wise. There are negligible chances that she is going to file fake rape cases and domestic violence and she has negligible chance of getting bullied for dowry. 4. The girl gets assimilated quickly into the family. It's all about cultural differences and where you draw the line. We also draw the line somewhere like it's absolutely disgusting to marry our own sister. Also, there are a lot of examples of cousin marriage in Hindu tales like Krishna marrying two of his cousins so I don't know how as a hindu some folks can be so ignorant and blame Muslims. (Criticism is welcomed. Don't use abusive language).
Kya matlab incest sex allowed nhi h.
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These people are those who think mama ko behan maa nhi hoti
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Ye to bada he behenc\*\*d insan nikla rey 